202. FreeToChoose - April 12, 1999 - 1:12 PM PT
cllrdr
Do you disagree?
203. FreeToChoose - April 12, 1999 - 1:15 PM PT
cllrdr
Actually, I won't aver moral superiority for the conservatives. There's too much hypocrisy on both sides. But the lockstep of the liberal bastion is comical. And frankly, if the members would agree that they don't have the intellectual integrity to question one another in any serious way, then we would understand the system and move on.
But I'm guessing that the liberal bastion will deny this.
And neither you, or anyone else will identify more than a tiny handful of counter-examples.
204. FreeToChoose - April 12, 1999 - 1:16 PM PT
cllrdr
Lest there's any confusion, I'm not accusing you of being a liberal. I'm not that mean.
205. CalGal - April 12, 1999 - 1:29 PM PT
Uh-oh. This one isn't even supposed to be said in the PlayPan.
10871. JadeGold - April 12, 1999 - 1:20 PM PT
Variable Pi's medication must be wearin' down.
206. incognito - April 12, 1999 - 1:32 PM PT
"Lest there's any confusion, I'm not accusing you of being a liberal. I'm not that mean."
Funny!
207. pellenilsson - April 12, 1999 - 1:43 PM PT
This thread is seriously off topic. The proper one (as you all know) was introduced in my groundbreaking Message #2 re ancient Scandinavian methods for the stacking of hay and the implements and contraptions that go with it. Being late over here I shall return to the subject tomorrow.
208. pellenilsson - April 12, 1999 - 1:53 PM PT
CalGal Message #205
I saw that too. Disgusting.
209. pellenilsson - April 12, 1999 - 1:54 PM PT
And cheap. So incredibly cheap.
210. CalGal - April 12, 1999 - 1:56 PM PT
Well, she used up all her budget on her name.
211. CalGal - April 12, 1999 - 1:57 PM PT
Incidentally, O Serious Svenskie, Message #207 caused me to chuckle. I can't think why, mind you.
212. pellenilsson - April 12, 1999 - 2:07 PM PT
Insidiousness?
213. CalGal - April 12, 1999 - 2:16 PM PT
Indubitably.
214. benear - April 12, 1999 - 2:52 PM PT
Liberal Bastion 10, Thumpers and Repugs 10. In case you weren't keeping score.
215. benear - April 12, 1999 - 2:54 PM PT
CalGal 205. Is PlayPan a typo or are you being really funny and witty?
216. CalGal - April 12, 1999 - 3:10 PM PT
My typos are as rare as my witticisms. You have witnessed a rare occurrence of one or the other.
217. BobaFett - April 12, 1999 - 3:13 PM PT
"The Times staff, notably Jeff Gerth, won [the Pulitzer Prize] for national reporting for a series that disclosed the sale of American technology to China despite national security risks."
Pulitzer Prize? LOL.
218. FreeToChoose - April 12, 1999 - 3:46 PM PT
In Politics(10929) Trialshark says:
“ Hmmm. Well, it seemed to me you were being a tad
churlish when you demanded I "take a stand." “
Very possible. It was my belief that you were backing down front some level of support. I apologize if I misread it.
I do appreciate the fact that you don't think I lied.
However, when I asked you and other to take a stand, I'm asking you to acknowledge that jade is lying when she claims she caught me in a lie. This isn't true, as you well know.
If this is too much to ask, I will still appreciate that you were willing to support my truthfulness (on this issue; I'm not looking for blanket dispensation.
I'll post this in Politics, and where it belongs, in the Playpen.
I hope if you respond, you will respond in the appropriate location.
219. FreeToChoose - April 12, 1999 - 4:04 PM PT
Trialshark
Boba has been pushing on the meaning of the term “at odds”.
Here is why he is wrong to push it.
If I recall correctly, you think jade is arguing that the NYTimes article is at odds with my statement. Jade may well be doing that. But it is IRRELEVANT to the issue.
Let me ‘splain. For the purpose of this discussion(only), I'll be happy to stipulate that the NYTimes article and or the chapter excerpt says anything you want. Perhaps it says:
Trialshark is the greatest lawyer on the face of the earth
Or maybe is says Jade has never lied.
More to the point, let's assume it quotes Isikoff, “My motivation for pursuing the Monica issue is the big payoffs I got from right wing assholes.”
None of these statements change the fact that Jade lied.
I recounted my recollection of what Isikoff said on TV. All the quotes in the world from any source whatsoever have NO bearing on whether Isikoff actually said what I heard. (Sorry if this sounds condescending; you have agreed as much.) My issue is when Jade claims that the NYTimes proves I lied.
She is lying.
Again, I'll post this both places, and hope that those who want to talk Politics in Politics will encourage off-topic discussions to occur where they belong.
220. Trialshark - April 12, 1999 - 4:17 PM PT
FTC --
You pretty much have my blanket dispensation, at least as to your truthfulness; I've never caught you flat-out lying, as happened when I caught thomasd denying he'd read a message that he'd already posted a response to, or trying to hide the ball by editing out inconvenient facts ... as Boba did with the Post article on "jury tampering" in the McDougal case.
So I assume you're being truthful. I don't always buy your conclusions, of course, but I'm not asking you to buy mine, either. [g]
As to whether Jade is "lying" when she claims to have caught you in a lie -- I've already said (repeatedly) that I don't think you lied. Does this mean I think Jade is "lying?" No -- it means I disagree with her.
No doubt she believes you were lying; just as you believe that when you said her credibility was so poor her post wasn't worth checking, you weren't calling her a liar. I think you're both wrong, and that you both seem to hate each other waaaaaaay more than either's posts would justify.
Personally, I think it's probably one of those sexual-tension things you see on TV, like with Maddie and Dave on "Moonlighting." But I could be wrong.
221. BobaFett - April 12, 1999 - 4:21 PM PT
That's all the left does: They challenge a broad
statement, denying it's true. Then you prove it IS true. Then they find
some tiny scrap of a detail that's NOT true and they claim, "Oh, I just
meant
that this tiny detail isn't true. I knew the larger statement was true."
This is Ohio's, Trial's, and Jade's stock in trade.
OR, they will grill you about providing citations about the tiniest little
details but they NEVER provide them themselves.
222. cllrdr - April 12, 1999 - 4:47 PM PT
"Lest there's any confusion, I'm not accusing you of being a liberal. I'm not that mean."
Well look, FTC, if a center-right Conservative like Bill Clinton can be a liberal than a gay anarchist like me can be one too.
223. FreeToChoose - April 12, 1999 - 4:55 PM PT
In Politics 10960 CalGal says:
"As far as I'm concerned, you do."
You need to brush up on your game theory.
We have a classic prisoner's dilemma.
If both parties go to the PlayPen, we have the optimal result. If only one party does, it is a worse outcome than if both parties refuse to go.
Normally, under repeated PD, as we have here, both sides will realize that it makes sense to "cooperate".
Why isn't the classic outcome working?
Three possibilities:
The classic result assumes rational players
We have played enough times
Other participants aren't imposing any costs on the renegers
(If slackjaw is lurking, I know full well this last aspect is not part of the classic game.)
"So I hold
you all equally responsible for its tedium."
I won't shirk my responsibility.
224. FreeToChoose - April 12, 1999 - 4:58 PM PT
cllrdr
"Well look, FTC, if a center-right Conservative like Bill
Clinton can be a liberal than a gay anarchist like me can
be one too."
I was trying to be nice. I thought I recalled you excoriating someone who called you a liberal.
Clinton, a liberal?
If there are any liberals with integrity (and I'm sure there are), they would take offense to this.
225. cllrdr - April 12, 1999 - 4:58 PM PT
To Bobo every thread's a PlayPen.
226. cllrdr - April 12, 1999 - 5:00 PM PT
"I was trying to be nice. I thought I recalled you excoriating someone who called you a liberal."
I would never excoriate the despised. You don't see me going around calling Bobo "Shakes," do you?
227. FreeToChoose - April 12, 1999 - 5:06 PM PT
Trialshark
Well, I appreciate that you did what you could.
"No doubt she believes you were lying;"
Actually, I very much doubt that. I think the only two choices are lying and delusional.
I said that Isikoff stated something on TV. I didn't say it was in the book, or had actually occurred in the past. I simply said that isikoff recounted a reason for pursuing his story.
Jade says I have lied based upon a book. Surely, as a lawyer, you would slash this witness to shreds. She is either lying when she claims to have caught me in a lie, or is delusional.
" just as you believe
that when you said her credibility was so poor her post
wasn't worth checking, you weren't calling her a liar."
I was calling her a liar, with respect to past incidents. Because she is. I expressed doubts that her "cite" which she never bothered to link, would tell a different story. It doesn't. I was right.
"I
think you're both wrong, and that you both seem to hate
each other waaaaaaay more than either's posts would
justify."
I don't hate Jade. Frankly, I ignore her most of the time. On occasion, it's fun to tweak her and see the reaction of the liberal bastion.
"Personally, I think it's probably one of those
sexual-tension things you see on TV, like with Maddie
and Dave on "Moonlighting." But I could be wrong."
I'm hoping you are wrong.
228. FreeToChoose - April 12, 1999 - 5:08 PM PT
Cllrdr
Perhaps I misremembered. But some people are particular about what they are called. For example, I don't like being called a conservative.
I thought you said you wanted to be called a communist. But it is hard to keep all these things straight (sorry).
229. lemwalker - April 12, 1999 - 5:12 PM PT
We don't need this. Just give 'em a red, put them to bed. And check on them in the morning.
230. cllrdr - April 12, 1999 - 6:09 PM PT
I wanted to be considered the "designated communist." This was only to help the Right, which has suffered a severe "enemy shortage, " due to the collapse of the Soviet Union. So severe, in fact, that its been forced to turn a standard-issue political hack like Bill Clinton into the Very Embodiment of Evil.
As "designated communist" I could vary their Ten Minute Hates a tad.
231. CalGal - April 12, 1999 - 6:49 PM PT
FTC,
Actually, I thought of the game theory analogy the other night. And I agree with it--in fact, my posts to Irv indicate as much. But give it more than a few hours try.
232. MsIvoryTower - April 12, 1999 - 7:39 PM PT
Not having been a fan of this thread idea from the beginning, I'm not surprised by the sporadic use of it. However, to be declaring the thing a failure after only one day is just a bit absurd.
FTC whines in his sleep.
233. MsIvoryTower - April 12, 1999 - 7:41 PM PT
Hmmm, this is kinda cool, I appear to be all along in the fray.
Time to catch the last posts record......
234. MsIvoryTower - April 12, 1999 - 7:42 PM PT
that's all alone.....
lets see? do I need another insult in order to be "on topic"?
FTC not only whines in his sleep, he snores.
235. benear - April 12, 1999 - 8:17 PM PT
CalGal 216. OK. Not a typo and not witty. Just so damn clever I am in awe.
236. MsIvoryTower - April 12, 1999 - 8:21 PM PT
Oh fer christs sake, benear, it was a typo! She as good as admitted it.
sheesh.
Quit trying to ruin my record.
237. tedphil - April 12, 1999 - 8:26 PM PT
You people are so humorous. It is such a task finding anyone on this site tonight.
Geezzz
238. MsIvoryTower - April 12, 1999 - 8:39 PM PT
Well
I gave it a shot, but SOME people ALWAYs have to have the LAST WORD!
Grumble grumble grumble......
239. tedphil - April 12, 1999 - 8:42 PM PT
Well, then, I give my gift of the honorable Last Word to you, MsIvoryTower.
240. Slackjaw - April 12, 1999 - 10:00 PM PT
FTC Message #223
The irony of posting on the topic of another thread in the thread designed for other threads' off topic discussions is positively titillating.
'Normally, under repeated PD, as we have here, both sides will realize that it makes sense to "cooperate".'
Don't know where you got the idea this is the "normal" state of affairs. Please, please forget anything you may have heard about what Robert Axelrod "proved." First of all, mutual perpetual defection is *always* an equilibrium. Second, cooperation *can be* (i.e., "might be," not "will be") sustained in an infinitely repeated PD. It cannot be sustained in a finite PD with rational players. Third, re. your first possibility, 'irrationality' in every treatment I've ever read makes cooperation "easier" to sustain, not harder. Fourth, what does your second possibility ("maybe we've played enough times") mean? Fifth, as to the third possibility, punishment can most certainly be part of an equilibrium strategy profile sustaining cooperation in the infinitely repeated (multilateral or bilateral) PD.
But most importantly, mutual defection is always an equilibrium. Maybe not Pareto dominant, but an equilibrium just as sure.
241. CalGal - April 12, 1999 - 10:28 PM PT
Slack,
"mutual defection is always an equilibrium"
That means that equilibrium could just as easily mean the failure of this idea, yes? Equilibrium doesn't have to result in the desired effect.
And if it doesn't, we'd have to redesign the "game" to get the proper "solution" and that is.......IMPLEMENTATION THEORY!!!!
At least I *hope* that's what it means, or I've completely missed the point of your excellent lectures. (But if I've messed up that badly, then maybe they're not so excellent. Hmmmmm.)
242. Slackjaw - April 13, 1999 - 12:17 AM PT
CalGal,
Yes, you are precisely correct.
Of course, if I wish for my 'lectures' to be seen as excellent, I have a very clear incentive to give a particular response.
No, really, you are correct.
243. pellenilsson - April 13, 1999 - 2:25 AM PT
It has been intimated to me, through private channels, that a follow-up to my Message #2 would be welcomed. So here we go. Enjoy Boba!
You have your hässja and it's standing in the field of hay which you want to put onto it. But the hay is thin on the ground and the hässja takes a lot of it. You need something to bring large quantities of hay up close to the hässja. We do this with a horse-pulled contraption with an untranslatable name. Here we shall simply call it the "contrap".
Its strength member is a cast iron tube about 12 foot long and 8 inches in diameter. Onto the tube are welded 5 foot long slender steel spikes at intervals of 8 inches. The whole thing looks like a giant comb. When the contrap is active the spikes face forward. The ends of the tubes are joined to the shackles in a way that the tube can rotate. On the tube is a lever which is normally in the engaged position. If you lift the lever the tube will lift from the ground. If you press down on the lever the spikes will lift. If the lever is disengaged the tube can rotate freely.
You are on the hay field. The contrap is shackled to the horse and rests on the ground with the spikes facing forward. You need a well-trained horse because your working position is one hand on the lever and both bridles in the other, so you control the horse just by turning your hand slightly. You get the horse going. The spikes slide under the hay which collects on the contrap. When there is enough of it you press down on the lever. The ends of the spikes lift slightly off the ground and you drive back to the hässja without collecting any more. Now comes the tricky part.
(To be continued)
244. pellenilsson - April 13, 1999 - 2:27 AM PT
(continued)
When you are at the point where you want to offload the hay you lift the lever so that the spikes dig into the ground. At precisely the right instance you disengage the lever. The contrap rotates and comes away with the spikes facing backwards leaving the hay on the ground. If you are too late the lever will be torn from your grip and rotate with the contrap and the whole thing will go into a gridlock. You must either back the horse, which is possible but most horses don't like it much, or unshackle and lift the thing back into position. In any case you will be exposed to severe ridicule from your fellow workers. And it can last for days.
When you have unloaded the hay you drive back into the field and in the appropriate place you use the lever to rotate the contrap so that the spikes again face forwards.
245. OhioSTOPAS - April 13, 1999 - 3:44 AM PT
Message #221 is delusional whining. Go to "U.S. Politics" the last couple of days and see who provides accurate information, with citations.
246. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 6:06 AM PT
Pelle:
I welcome your posts about hassje. I just don't want anymore posts of Pincher and Marji arguing over what court they're going to kick each other's asses on.
247. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 6:07 AM PT
Ohio:
Yeah, you provided precisely one citation, which you originally misrepresented as proving the hack talking point you wanted to prove. You were shamed into reposting it, but it still proves I'm right.
248. benear - April 13, 1999 - 6:30 AM PT
Boba, after yesterday, I would have thought you would be too sore to play today.
249. RosettaStone - April 13, 1999 - 8:14 AM PT
"With Ad, don't you mean the PigPen?"
(excerpt from post in FIASCO IN KOSOVO/SERBIA thread that was deemed unnecessary.)
250. OhioSTOPAS - April 13, 1999 - 8:36 AM PT
BobaFett: Are you referring in msg 247 to the legendary "list of 94"? The one for which you have said, more than once, that "all but 5 or 6" are either:
1. Chinese nationals
2. Taiwanese nationals
3. Riady family members, and/or
4. Lippo Group -connected?
Read the things I spoon-feed you, Boba. At least 20 on the list are Americans, with no connection to Lippo or Riady. (I'll even give you Webster Hubbell as "Lippo-connected".) This doesn't include another approximately 20 that are nuns or abbesses connected with that notorious Buddhist temple in California (but hey, I can't PROVE whether any or all of these Californians are not actually Chinese or Taiwanese nationals, right?)
"All but 5 or 6"? Give it up, Boba. Wrong again.
251. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 8:38 AM PT
Ohio:
Yah, Americans who are all identified as being connected with Chinagate.
tell me again that China wouldn't funnel money through a Taiwanese.
And then tell it to Johnny Chung, a Taiwanese by birth who testified to funnelling money to Clinton from the head of China's intelligence service.
252. MsIvoryTower - April 13, 1999 - 8:46 AM PT
The truth about Rosie has been found.
He's really an old-time, acid popping, whacked-out, pinko liberal, still living in the 70's.
IT's ALL A CONSPIRACY, MAN!
253. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 8:52 AM PT
Check out the Ms... posting off-topic attacks where they belong.
254. Adrianne - April 13, 1999 - 9:49 AM PT
RE Politics thread
The irony, gawd. And Fett's posting in re a "squabble", no less - a real one, too, not one made-to-order by his imagination to bolster an imaginary point.
Pathetic.
255. OhioSTOPAS - April 13, 1999 - 9:49 AM PT
251: The numerous Americans on the "pled and fled" list are "all identified as being connected with Chinagate"? Afraid not, Boba.
And is this a fifth category you're adding to Chinese, Taiwanese, Riadys and Lippos? I guess you've finally backpedalled all the way away from your statement that "all but five or six names are Chinese or Taiwanese nationals or Riady Family members or Lippo Group employees."
256. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 9:53 AM PT
Ohio:
Obviously people like Webster Hubble who are EXPRESSLY identified as having connections to the Riadys or to China are "Chinagate" suspects, and not completely unrelated persons as you asserted.
Hey dickface:
Why don't you repost ALL THE NAMES, the entire article, like I did before and we can go through it name by name and count.
Let's. It was a hoot last time.
Are you game? Or are you going to keep lying?
Why don't you just post the list and we'll see who's right and who's the HACK?
257. OhioSTOPAS - April 13, 1999 - 10:19 AM PT
Well, here's a few Americans among those that you say are "all identified with Chinagate":
Nora and Gene Lum: Owners of an Oklahoma gas pipeline company,
Dynamic Energy Resources, who last year pleaded guilty to laundering
$50,000 in illegal donations to congressional campaigns in 1994. (Fifth Amendment)
Larry Wong: A board member of Dynamic Energy Resources. (Fifth
Amendment)
Gilbert Colon: Former head of the Commerce Department's Minority
Business Development Agency, Colon was hired by Dynamic Energy in
August 1994. Colon received a $3,000 check from Dynamic on Sept. 19,
and four days later, he and his wife, Cheryl, gave $3,000 for the reelection of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.), which has been returned. (Fifth Amendment)
Michael Brown: Son of late Commerce Secretary Ronald H. Brown. He
pleaded guilty on Aug. 28, 1997, to making illegal contributions by
providing $3,000 for colleagues to contribute in a 1994 election
campaign. (Fifth Amendment)
Nolanda Hill: A former business partner of Ronald H. Brown, Hill has
been indicted on separate fraud charges. She alleges that Brown told her domestic companies were being solicited for campaign contributions in exchange for being included on trade missions abroad. (Fifth Amendment)
Charles Intriago: Former federal prosecutor and publisher of watchdog
newsletter "Money Laundering Alert." His solicitations for Democratic
campaigns have come under Justice Department and committee scrutiny.
Fifth Amendment)
Terri Bradley: A secretary fined for making political donations for her employer, Thomas Kramer, a Miami Beach developer and German citizen. (Fifth Amendment)
258. OhioSTOPAS - April 13, 1999 - 10:22 AM PT
P.S. The escalation from "hack" and "peabrain" to "dickface" is a giveaway that you know you've been proven wrong . . . again.
Advice: don't ever play poker for money.
259. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 10:24 AM PT
Wow. Seven names. Add the one American Indian and you've got eight.
260. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 10:25 AM PT
Post the whole list, Ohio. Let's count. Let's see if "most" of those named in the list aren't even involved in Chinagate, as you originally claimed, or if your lastest number -- 20 -- is correct.
261. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 10:26 AM PT
Larry Wong: A board member of Dynamic Energy Resources. (Fifth
Amendment)
On what basis do you claim that this person is an American. And how do you know he isn't involved in Chinagate?
Or are you just "assuming"?
262. OhioSTOPAS - April 13, 1999 - 10:26 AM PT
Got to go back to work now.
263. pellenilsson - April 13, 1999 - 10:34 AM PT
I haven't a clue as to what Boba and Ohio are discussing but it certainly seems to be or have been on topic somewhere, so pls keep it out of here.
264. OhioSTOPAS - April 13, 1999 - 10:35 AM PT
I posted, then saw BobaFett's last post.
I don't KNOW (nor can I prove) that a member of the board of directors of an Oklahoma pipeline company is not a Chinese or Taiwanese national, nor do I KNOW (nor can I prove) that he is not "involved in Chinagate". You're the one who says he falls into one of these categories (unless he's one of the "5 or 6" who don't), and anyone who claims otherwise is a "dickface". You provide some evidence in support of YOUR statements for a change.
Note that I'm letting you change your premise to include "Americans involved in Chinagate", and you're still wrong. More advice: When you backpedal, backpedal to a tenable position.
NOW I've REALLY got to go back to work. You can have the last word (and, no doubt, another, and another, and another . . .).
265. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 10:42 AM PT
OhioDickface:
You're the one who originally asserted that "Most" of the people on the list of those who pled or fled weren't even involved in Chinagate.
YOU were the one who cited this list as PROOF of this. I just threw the list back in your face saying all but five or six names were either EXPRESSLY connected to Chinagate, or were Chinese names, etc., which would suggest that, contrary to your assertion, they were involved in Chinagate and not "some other" fundraising scandal as you asserted.
Since you advanced the list as proof of your theory that most of the names aren't even involved in Chinagate, I think YOU'RE the one who should provide documentation of this. Of course, you disagree. You cite a list which doesn't prove what you claimed it proved, THEN you demand that I prove it doesn't prove what you claim it proves.
Instead, you simply post the name of a Chinese-American or Chinese National, Larry Wong, saying "Oh, look, here's an American who's not involved in Chinagate."
on what evidence, Dickface?
PROVE that most of the names on the list aren't even involved in Chinagate.
266. cllrdr - April 13, 1999 - 11:23 AM PT
"Dickface"? You mean a Nixon supporter, right?
267. cllrdr - April 13, 1999 - 11:26 AM PT
"China Gate," btw, was one of Samuel Fuller's most fascinating efforts. Shot in 1957 it predicted the entire Vietnam war. Gene Barry starred as a "soldier of fortune," with Nat "King" Cole, Angie Dickinson as "Lucky Legs" ("I'm a whole lot of everything and a lot of nothing") and Lee Van Cleef as Ho Chi Minh.
268. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 11:28 AM PT
Jesus, you're absolutely FASCINATED with me, aren't you?
269. MsIvoryTower - April 13, 1999 - 11:37 AM PT
Further evidence that Rosie O' Pig is an underhanded, sneaky, weasel. Out of no-where, he posts the following potshot in Politics, and then just IGNORES it when I tell him to take it to the Playpen.
2823. RosettaStone - April 13, 1999 - 9:20 AM PT
Ad's real job must be catoring the banquets for the NATO's 50th Anniversary bash.
Be careful of who you hire as waitors, Ad. I'm told that some of them will be "off the reservation."
__________
Now, lets review all the people who will take their one-time cheap shots and then pretend they are all nice and friendly? Who is it exactly who won't play by the Playpen rules?
Rosie O', keep it up dipshit.
270. CalGal - April 13, 1999 - 11:39 AM PT
Ms,
Incidentally, I was coming here to copy that post in as well. Narking is only fun if you're evenhanded about it.
271. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 11:39 AM PT
Ms:
IN defense of Rosetta:
1) HE DOESN'T LIKE THE PLAYPEN AT ALL; *I'M* the one who was urging both he and Ad to come here. So he's not a hypocrite.
2) If there is no follow-up to an insult, there's nothing to take to the PlayPen anyway.
272. CalGal - April 13, 1999 - 11:40 AM PT
And it occurs to me that the Ms may think I was referring to her, but I was referring to me--I've been making several posts in here of that nature.
273. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 11:43 AM PT
ROSETTA DID NOT NARC!
*I* NARCED!
I'M THE NARC!
274. CalGal - April 13, 1999 - 11:50 AM PT
11216. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 11:48 AM PT
Playpen, CalGaryFlames?
LOL.
*******
No way. I'M THE NARC!!!!
275. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 11:52 AM PT
Asterisks, CalGaryFlames?
LOL.
276. pellenilsson - April 13, 1999 - 11:52 AM PT
Boba
You have to watch your image. You've come across as a pretty decent chap lately.
277. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 11:53 AM PT
A compliment, Pelle?
LOL.
278. CalGal - April 13, 1999 - 11:56 AM PT
Pelle,
He IS a decent chap.
Ha! NARKED AGAIN!!!! I AM THE NARK CHAMPEEN!
279. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 11:59 AM PT
11212. 109109 - April 13, 1999 - 11:44 AM PT
Boba
The important thing is that he delivers. As the journalist who had a crsuh on him stated, she'd blow the man to keep Roe v. Wade unsullied.
Journalists now, NeinMeinFuhror?
LOL.
"Journalism."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
280. CalGal - April 13, 1999 - 12:15 PM PT
2785. Adrianne - April 13, 1999 - 6:56 AM PT
Well, just make sure you're at the right demonstration, imbecile.
Remember that touching account you gave last month of seeing and hearing hundreds of chanting anti-NATO demonstrators marching to Lafayette Park?
It was an anti-Serb, pro-NATO demonstration.
I would accuse you of flagrant intellectual dishonesty, but I believe you are incapable of *intellectual anything*, even dishonesty.
*************************************
YOU WILL NEVER CATCH ME!!!!!!!!!
281. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 12:18 PM PT
Cal:
I already told her that that post, and the three which followed it, were all off-topic and should be taken here. She refused, stating that she was "responding to something Rosetta said," which she apparently conflates with "on topic."
As I predicted:
The Liberals who bitched and bitched about off-topic posts and nasty personal attacks WILL NOT take their own off-topic posts and nasty personal attacks here.
After all-- THEIR personal attacks are TRUE, and belong to be seen by everyone!
PlayPen.
LOL.
282. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 12:18 PM PT
"belong where they can be seen by everyone."
283. jexster - April 13, 1999 - 12:23 PM PT
Does the creation of this new thread mean that I get in deep doo for calling BloboFett
A TURD BRAINED TOAD SUCKER
on any other thread????
284. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 12:25 PM PT
No, since nobody's using this thread, you fucking fuck-faced fuck.
285. benear - April 13, 1999 - 1:03 PM PT
sigh. Can't we raise the swearing level to one similar to that demonstrated in Saving Private Ryan? You know, something witty. And before you say it, Boba, I still like girls, so you keep that tiny, UGLY thing to yourself.
286. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 1:06 PM PT
"Foolish fucking inconsistancy is the motherfucking hobgoglin of tiny cocksucking minds."
Witty enough?"
287. CalGal - April 13, 1999 - 1:09 PM PT
NARK!!!
2837. RosettaStone - April 13, 1999 - 1:04 PM PT
Jexster: The only thing you ("the aide") were doing for your Democratic senator in the 1980s was under the desk when he demanded semen release.
***************
And unpleasant to boot.
288. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 1:13 PM PT
"The coldest dickface winter I fucking remember was the cocksucking summer I spent in douchebag San Fucking Frisco."
289. MsIvoryTower - April 13, 1999 - 1:15 PM PT
Fett Message #271
There is no defense of Rosie O' Pig.
1) You accused Adrianne of not playing because she didn't come to the PP and Rosie did the same thing. Saying he doesn't like the PP doesn't absolve him of anything.
2) This post came as a non-sequitor, long after the original exchange between he and Adrianne. It was a sneaky, weaselly, chickenshit hit-and-run comment. He should be tarred and feathered!
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
And quit being his hack!
290. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 1:17 PM PT
Ms:
I told BOTH of them to come here. Rosetta at least did post something here, but then Ad did not follow him over.
291. CalGal - April 13, 1999 - 1:17 PM PT
San FRAN fucking Cisco, shitforbrains.
292. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 1:18 PM PT
Eat my cock, gutterskank.
293. CalGal - April 13, 1999 - 1:20 PM PT
Yeah, you found it yet?
294. jexster - April 13, 1999 - 1:20 PM PT
2837. RosettaStone - April 13, 1999 - 1:04 PM PT
Jexster: The only thing you ("the aide") were doing for
your Democratic senator in the 1980s was under the desk
when he demanded semen release.
2838. jexster - April 13, 1999 - 1:15 PM PT
It was the '70's Rosie you slut!
As for semen, cum get some.
295. MsIvoryTower - April 13, 1999 - 1:21 PM PT
That's because she became embroiled with you!
Face it, Rosie is a weasel, and is equally culpable.
HACK!
296. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 1:21 PM PT
Cal:
Yeah, I forgot I left it in your ass.
297. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 1:22 PM PT
Cal:
By the way, would you mind checking your hair? I think I might have left some of my choad there.
Thanks.
298. CalGal - April 13, 1999 - 1:23 PM PT
Forgot, my left tit. You wailed louder than the first teenager whacked in "Scream" when I cut it off.
299. CalGal - April 13, 1999 - 1:25 PM PT
NARK! NARK!
21811. elliot803 - April 12, 1999 - 4:01 PM PT
benear: what are your vital statistics?
21812. cllrdr - April 12, 1999 - 4:21 PM PT
Aha, Elliot's on the move again.
300. BobaFett - April 13, 1999 - 1:25 PM PT
Ummmmmmmm.... whatever.
Has that redness cleared from your eyes yet, by the way?