501. Jenerator - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:53 PM PT
Pseudo,

Does "casual delectation" mean that I would just be a booty-call?

502. Raskolnikov - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:53 PM PT
After I made hummus for him, my brother complained that he was belching garlic for a week, and had to brush his teeth 6 times a day to get the taste out of his mouth.

It was the nicest thing he ever said to me.

503. marjoribanks - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:53 PM PT
Pseuder,

Are you really this bored? Even so, why should I have to be subjected to reading this drivel?

504. Jenerator - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:53 PM PT
Bubbaette,

True!:)

505. Jenerator - Sep. 9, 1998 - 1:54 PM PT
Rashol,

My kind of hummus!

Marj,

It won't kill you to engage in pleasantries with others outside of your circle!

506. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:00 PM PT
Marjoribanks (Message #503)

Having earlier spent nearly 90 minutes in front of a bunch of freshmen jabbering about kinked demand curves and seeing that there has been a single new discussion in the Fray for the past year, I thought the contribution of drivel to this forum was more than apropos. My only consolation is that 40% of the freshmen are, by order of the departmental gods, preordained to fail.

507. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:01 PM PT
But I don't grade. So that pleasure is not mine.

508. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:02 PM PT
ERRATA

....seeing that there has NOT been a single new discussion in the Fray in OVER A YEAR....

509. marjoribanks - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:03 PM PT
My sympathies.

Raskolnikov,

That was a very funny punchline.

510. Bubbaette - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:04 PM PT
Marj

You are not forced to read this forum, ya know. You can always vote with your browser.

511. CalGal - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:07 PM PT
Pseudo,

What constitutes a new discussion?

Please stop sharing the love letters you wrote to me. They are for my eyes only.

And the Latin translator I eventually hire.

512. marjoribanks - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:09 PM PT
Pseuder,

I don't know. The whole Gender thread has been more or less new, and I've really liked it.

But it is true that the Fray is a little entrenched right now. I wonder what really can be done about it. I wouldn't be against a strong History thread again, maybe PD's Time Travel idea can lead to it.

513. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:10 PM PT
I deny any knowledge of these Latin love letters. All my writings in Latin have to do with famous and dignified Romans in lurid commerce with farm animals. One of them is of course a heiffer named Catgut.

514. Bubbaette - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:12 PM PT
Cal

How romantic, he called you his little heiffer!

515. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:15 PM PT
I've decided to write a parody of Lafontaine entitled "The Heiffer and the Pupaette".

516. Jenerator - Sep. 9, 1998 - 2:15 PM PT
CalGal,

Indeed some of what Pseudo says is true. However some of it must be explained, you see, he saw himself as the Roman dignitary, he saw you as the sacred heiffer he was about to mount! He allegorized the love he feels for you in timeless Latin.

517. AzureNW - Sep. 9, 1998 - 5:26 PM PT

A history thread would be very interesting for me, particularly discussions about the broad patterns of history that examines concurrent world events in technology, literature, and the arts, as well as political events, and includes some background in anthropology and prehistory. History is a subject I was obliged to skim pretty thinly during my formal education, leaving a lot of gaps and misconceptions in my world view.

PE recommended a pulitzer prize winning history book to me that is one of the most elucidatory books I have ever read. The author manages to convincingly dispell a lot of popular misconceptions about the evolution of cultures that one hears expressed in the Fray every day. It's quite exciting and dramatic for a history book, and so readable I've found I've really enjoyed reading it aloud to my family. The author's sense of humor comes through in a way that makes my voice sound like my mother's. I have three chapters and the epilog to finish, then I'll post a “review,” maybe.

518. AzureNW - Sep. 9, 1998 - 5:28 PM PT

Message #517 is re: Message #512

519. AzureNW - Sep. 9, 1998 - 6:53 PM PT

I've been thinking about launching into a clean-freak rant on the many underrated benefits of sanitizing everything with sodium hypochlorite. It would probably drive everyone up the wall, but it would be back on topic.

520. arkymalarky - Sep. 9, 1998 - 6:57 PM PT
Go for it. Maybe it would help me with my ants.

BTW, thanks for the suggestions, everyone. The little bait things seem to work OK, but I'll try the others as needed.

521. chloel - Sep. 10, 1998 - 6:05 PM PT
Well, now I know what Pseudo really does with chickpeas; he balances them on his nose and declaims Latin.


No news on sheep cream or yak butter? Dang.

522. ScottLoar - Sep. 11, 1998 - 6:55 PM PT
My life has become intertwined with stripping paint, and as I move along so the paint peels. Midway through stripping the hallway (25 feet long, 4 doorways, and the woodwork just within painful reach) my dear wife suggested I pull out those old electrical wires, and so I cut off all three phones yesterday afternoon. Tonight, I've learned all about phone lines and where they go, and lightened myself of US$275.00 at the capable hands of the phone company who did the rerouting from basement to second floor.

523. JustSayYo - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:02 PM PT
I want to offer moral support Scott. It's extra hard for me to give. I give it with empathy but not a hint of patronization. I give it with concern for a fellow do-it-yourselfer. Good try, keep the faith.

524. phillipdavid - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:04 PM PT
AzureNW
517

What is the title of the book?

525. CalGal - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:06 PM PT
You VOLUNTARILY cut yourself off from the online world?

Or am I misreading and it was an accident?

526. joezan - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:12 PM PT

For 7 years, I've been thisclose to strangling our cat. He has ruined three 100-year-old oak door jambs, which are irreplaceable. He has also ruined the ginger-bread style screen door I built from scratch 3 years ago, as well as stripping the pile from the back of a brand new Queen Anne chair.

Why? Because he can't sharpen his nails on tree bark, the way every other cat in the world does, and my wife refuses to have him de-clawed. "God gave him claws for a reason", she says in reply to my constant complaints. She cuts his claws when she can get a hold of him, but I think this only makes him want to sharpen them more.

So, on Tuesday she finds him mangling a mouse in the middle of the living room, spraying blood and entrails around as he played catch with it. And now that this worthless beast is finally earning his keep, she says, "That's it - I'm not gonna have some blood-thirsty beast living in my house with a one-year-old baby."

Anyone know how to keep a cat from scratching your stuff up. (We got him a scratch post - he uses it alot).








527. JustSayYo - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:30 PM PT
Build many, many more scratch posts. Make them flat boards which you attach strategically to the prized furniture. Make them of tightly braided twine wrapped aroung posts and boards. Make one that is a floor to ceiling pole, this one will be the favorite, place it in front of a window that has some activity the cat will find amusing, ie. bushes with birds in them. The pole should have braced platforms, say two or three. This is the perfect solution, but one that requires resources of time and money to complete. You build your own. Good luck.

528. joezan - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:33 PM PT

Thanx, Yo! That sounds do-able. He likes to sit in the window and watch the birds - maybe if he can keep himself occupied with sharpening his nails while bird-watching, he won't feel the need to do it elsewhere.

529. JustSayYo - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:34 PM PT
I believe in declawing a cat, front only. It will allow you comfort and ease of living. It will help induce the cat to being a close to home cat. They feel more secure knowing a safe haven is around. Believe me they can and do still fight or climb unreasonably high trees. Trees which force you to throw shoe after shoe at your cat in a futile attempt to create some movement in the beast. Downward is only hoped for. Well anyway, declaw the beast.

530. ScottLoar - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:39 PM PT
CalGal, I STUPIDLY cut the phone lines and so myself from the online world. It's not the online world I miss, it's my business line that matters; the Fray is an amusement at best, sometimes helping me to think, but in the main just dialogues that within the first several posts have already resolved the matter or are the leads for yet another never-ending chitchat.

531. ScottLoar - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:42 PM PT
Joezan, your choices are 1) strangle the cat, 2) strangle your wife then the cat, 3) declaw the front paws of the cat and hopefully avoid strangling your wife at the end of the scene.

No, I don't mean you are the one to declaw the cat, go to a vet for Christ's sake.

532. CalGal - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:42 PM PT
Which you are currently participating in but QUICK we'll end it before anyone notices. (g)

I just started an actual *job*, God help me, and we recently switched locations. I came in and they said the email server and network was down. I turned around and said, "I'm headed home to work. Email me when you're back online."

Work or play, I must be wired.

Glad you got it all worked out. Let this be a lesson to you when planning future home improvements.

533. CalGal - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:43 PM PT
Joe,

A red letter day, indeed.

I agree with Scott.

The cat must be strangled.

534. JustSayYo - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:43 PM PT
Joe,
I hope you use thick twine. I should have said medium sized rope. Twist it tighter, melt and tape it, screw it into place and violla. It's the hemp type or that feel that is liked the best.

535. ScottLoar - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:45 PM PT
Yo, you need go through all that to strangle a cat?

536. JustSayYo - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:49 PM PT
Joe,
My tale is of my own cat. He has had antics which I've both gotten used to and trained. He knows right from wrong. Amazing cat, or perhaps amazing owner for persistantly wacking the then young cat when it peed in the wrong place, tried the act of (neutered) spraying, trys to run outside or mess with jumping up on shelves. The very shelves which hold our valuable pictures or some such item. It's all in the training when they're young. Now you'll have to beat the living heck out of it. It will hate you and fight back, biting the kid and friends. Soooooo,,, that's the wrong idea. Yeah, the posts will have to do.

537. JustSayYo - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:50 PM PT
anyone who cries animal abuse needs only meet my cat to see how wrong that statement is. he's the most loved creature on earth.

538. JustSayYo - Sep. 11, 1998 - 7:51 PM PT
love is a strange thing Scott.

539. CalGal - Sep. 11, 1998 - 8:05 PM PT
Scott,

You have now made two posts in a row that amused me.

No terrible task, 'tis true.

But a first, nonetheless.

540. Jenerator - Sep. 14, 1998 - 11:31 AM PT
Joe,

Pet stores have supplies that you can spray on items that will make the cat unwilling to scratch on certain areas.

I haven't had a cat in a few years, but way back in highschool, we had a problem cat like yours, and my parents sprayed some kind of magic spray on the furniture and the cat stopped.

Then again, keep a squirt bottle filled with water handy so that you can blast the cat when you hear him going for it. Cats harte to get wet, and if he has any brain, he will associate scratching with getting wet.

Good luck!:)

541. ScottLoar - Sep. 14, 1998 - 12:06 PM PT
More likely, the cat will hone his claws on other places. Honing its claws is a basic instinct to the cat, and unlike neutering which inhibits the male from spraying urine, declawing the cat does not seem to inhibit that motion as I can see from our own male.

542. bubbaette - Sep. 14, 1998 - 3:31 PM PT
I've always kept plenty of scratching things around. One thing that lefty loves is cardboard box that's filled with up-ended cardboard. I put catnip on it and he goes crazy -- actually drools. I also have a board with sisal rope wrapped around it hanging from a doorknob. Then I smack him or scold him if he scratches anywhere else (except the carpet -- that's on it's last legs anyhow.

543. Fraaank9 - Sep. 14, 1998 - 3:39 PM PT
Instead of declawing the poor thing,why not just paint the door to resemble a very tall doghouse ? In the entrance you would paint a sleeping pit-bull terrier...You know,like some of those Hanna Barbera cartoons do :-)

544. AzureNW - Sep. 14, 1998 - 3:47 PM PT

phillipdavid -

Re: Message #524

What is the title of the book?

"Guns, Germs and Steel," by J Diamond. In it, the author convincingly demolishes *all* popular racist beliefs. It is a very remakable book that would be of interest to pretty much everyone reading the Fray (but I believe it is only available in hardbound so far.)

545. CalGal - Sep. 14, 1998 - 3:53 PM PT
Azure,

No, I think it's out in paper back now. It's a good book, but I think Phillip and I discussed the fact that he still doesn't come up with a good reason why some cultures make the leap to technology and others don't. He comes up with a laundry list of 14 items but doesn't explain what causes them to happen. Not that I was happy with, anyway. Although it's been some months since I read the book.

He smashes completely the old racist arguments, of course, which is the first half of the book. Great stuff.

And it's a wonderful read.

546. AzureNW - Sep. 14, 1998 - 3:56 PM PT

Cats use their front claws like fingers and develop increasing dexterity in the use of their claws throughout life. One of my eight year old cats can pick up a glass marble with his cupped claws and put it into his mouth. He loves to hold hands while we watch TV. Cats are very expressive with their forepaws. Removing a cats claws will almost certainly make the cat neurotic in some ways, and often results in biting behavior and inappropriate urinating. The strength of the powerful muscles in a cat's forelimbs that are exercised by gripping with its claws are integral to the cat's cardio-vascular health, also. I suppose cutting a cats "fingers" off is preferable to killing it outright immediately.

547. AzureNW - Sep. 14, 1998 - 4:07 PM PT

If you want to see if your cat is self-aware, try placing a mirror behind an already favorite perch. Before long, you may find one of them preening in front of it, checking for tuna stuck between his teeth.

548. AzureNW - Sep. 14, 1998 - 4:25 PM PT

CalGal -

Do you know of any formal rebuttal of Diamond's theories that has been offered? I don't see any significant gaps in his reasoning with regard to the development of worldwide technologies. I would also be interested in exploring whether his approach of examining interrelated environmental factors can predict some behaviors in modern social units as well, why we feel more isolated and alienated living in bigger cities, how internet communications will likely change society, and so on.

549. CalGal - Sep. 14, 1998 - 4:32 PM PT
Azure,

I'll have to go home and read the book again to be sure, but to me, it came across as "Here is a well-reasoned argument as to why the switch from hunter/gatherer to farmer development *didn't* happen in certain places. Here is why it *did* happen in all these other places."

Fine. Great stuff.

Then:

"Some of the places that moved to farming stayed at that level. Others moved on and became more advanced technologically speaking. Here is a laundry list of the things that need to happen. How do they happen?"

That part is black-boxed. Or I missed it.

The interrelationship of environmental factors was fascinating. I don't know if I could use it today, though. I don't know that I feel isolated and alienated living in a bigger city, so I'm probably not the right person to ask. (g)

550. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 14, 1998 - 4:40 PM PT
Re: the Diamond

I'm really saddened that so many readers of the Diamond book, critics & fans alike, dwell on his debunking of the various dated racist theories of civilisational development. I mean, first of all, no one has believed in these theories for a long long time, so there was no point even in debunking them. Secondly, Diamond's emphasis is NOT NOT NOT in debunking them. He only casually brings up the old racial ideas about developmental disparities among nations.

Yet, here we have AzureNW praising him on this score as though it were a major point of the book. And I just read an INCREDIBLY STUPID review by David Frum in Foreign Affairs magazine, where he spends most of the ink on deploring Diamond's "political correctness", as though this were an important part of the book, developed at the expense of any substance. I'm all for bashing PC academics, but for Christ's sake, why the hell did Foreign Affairs get this right-wing hack to write the review?

551. PseudoErasmus - Sep. 14, 1998 - 4:42 PM PT
Here is a very good & balanced review of Diamond's Guns, Germs & Steel.

552. AdamSelene - Sep. 14, 1998 - 4:43 PM PT
Gee. I haven't read this thread before, and I just wanted to hop in and ask if it was time to transplant my little fir tree.

My mistake!

553. ScottLoar - Sep. 14, 1998 - 5:12 PM PT
It's deplorable my criticism of AzureNW is coincidental to PE's excoriation but <MSG NUM-546> is the work of a feverish imagination. No, claws are not paws, and to say in defense of not declawing "I suppose cutting a cat's 'fingers' off is preferable to killing it outright immediately" is ludicrous. Also, "removing a cat's claws will almost certainly make it neurotic in some ways" is equally absurd and disproven even by the most casual observations.

554. ScottLoar - Sep. 14, 1998 - 5:17 PM PT
AzureNW, not even YOUR cat uses his claws to pick up a marble; he's using his paws which are sensitive, flexible, and more responsive.

555. CalGal - Sep. 14, 1998 - 5:25 PM PT
Pseudo,

Gosh. Did I say that the whole book was about that, too?

From your linked review:

"A somewhat similar problem exists with Diamond's view of technology. In a chapter cleverly named "Necessity's Mother" he notes the many links between geographical constraints and technical options. Why would a society produce wheels if it had no horses or oxen to pull them? Wheelbarrows and rickshaws might have been an option, but maybe draft animals came first. Not all questions can be answered that way: some indigenous populations in America might have built seaworthy ships, or managed to develop some technology we cannot imagine today. If they did not, is this because they tried but failed, or because they never tried? "

That was what I was trying to say, and probably poorly. He doesn't explain the *next* jump. Maybe it's not possible, but that's what I was expecting to find.

It's also true that the book is generally presented as a rebuttal to the old arguments. As if that is all it does. I agree that it's not the main focus. But I think this is because in the first half it not only kicks the old arguments to bits but comes up with a much better explanation.

And since it's been months since I read the book, I'm stopping here.

556. chloel - Sep. 14, 1998 - 5:44 PM PT
AdamSelene -

I'd transplant it when the weather changes to fall where you are - cooler, or the rains start, whatever. It should be encouraged to grow roots before branches. (Generic tree/bush knowledge, possibly specific to cold wet winters.)

557. bubbaette - Sep. 14, 1998 - 5:55 PM PT
Scott

When I kid we had a cat with an extra toe on each foot. He could pick up knitting needles and wave them around. The extra toes must have worked like a thumb because he was quite skilled at picking things up.

558. WinstonSmith - Sep. 14, 1998 - 6:07 PM PT
A friend of mine had a dog that could pick up a bowling ball with its teeth.

559. AdamSelene - Sep. 14, 1998 - 6:11 PM PT
chloel,

Thanks! I'm just north of Washington, DC. One of the dryest summers on record, and it just rained last weekend for the first time in 6 weeks. I want to wait for more rain - what is the deadline for transplanting- first frost?

560. ScottLoar - Sep. 14, 1998 - 6:13 PM PT
Yes, Bubba, but not with claws alone and yes, Winston, the dog uses his jaws like large pliers. Well, hell, my cat responds to only Mandarin!

A simpler question, do you both not find that after time pets begin to resemble their owners? My wife and daughter (who have given to snickering behind my back) say the cat has a big belly like me (me, who retains the buff form of a prizefighter). Our cat really looks like a damned otter.

561. bubbaette - Sep. 14, 1998 - 6:37 PM PT
Scott

I'm not sure. Cal gal is barrel chested and rotund. Lefty is sleek and skinny as a rail. But they do resemble each other in their coloring.

For our pet to resemble DH, it would have to be a wire hair Irish terrier, if there is any such animal.

562. arkymalarky - Sep. 14, 1998 - 6:40 PM PT
I hope not. I have a miniature dachshund.

563. bubbaette - Sep. 14, 1998 - 6:44 PM PT
Arky

The comment is about the pet resembling you, not you resembling the pet, thank goodness. My ears are big enough already without being hairy and floppy.

564. ScottLoar - Sep. 14, 1998 - 6:46 PM PT
Just as I imagined CalGal. Thank you.

565. CalGal - Sep. 14, 1998 - 6:46 PM PT
"Cal gal is barrel chested and rotund. "

I *beg* your pardon.

566. CalGal - Sep. 14, 1998 - 6:47 PM PT
Wow. A crosspost with Loar.

A first!

567. bubbaette - Sep. 14, 1998 - 6:59 PM PT
Scott

Honest to god, my dog -- a cross between a dacshund and a labrador -- is named Cal Gal and was even before I entered the fray. This is not to be confused with the Fray Cal Gal, who I understand is slim, but also short like my Cal Gal. I think that the Fray Cal Gal has curly dark hair, while my Cal has straight short black hair.

568. WinstonSmith - Sep. 14, 1998 - 7:04 PM PT
Bubaette,

Is that a tail of two CalGals?

569. CalGal - Sep. 14, 1998 - 7:05 PM PT
Bubba,


You didn't resolve the possible chest discrepancies.

Thank you. (g)

570. bubbaette - Sep. 14, 1998 - 7:13 PM PT
Winston

My Cal Gal's tail is curly.


Cal

Well Cal's chest is one instance in which the pet resembles the owner.

571. WinstonSmith - Sep. 14, 1998 - 7:22 PM PT
Bubbaette,

Well, that answers the question of what shape Cal gals tail approximates.

BTW, the only pets I have are fish.

572. AdamSelene - Sep. 14, 1998 - 7:23 PM PT
arky! My Ginga is a mini-badger hound, too! She sits by me almost anytime I'm online.

I can't imagine CalGal as flatchested. And I can't imagine anyone getting her clothes off and then taking time to notice...

573. bubbaette - Sep. 14, 1998 - 7:24 PM PT
winston

Do they resemble you?

574. WinstonSmith - Sep. 14, 1998 - 7:41 PM PT
Bubbaette,

Well, they think so, but I just don't see it.

575. labarjare - Sep. 14, 1998 - 8:04 PM PT
Further corroboration of the resemblance theory :
I have no pet. I look like nothing on earth.

576. labarjare - Sep. 14, 1998 - 8:06 PM PT
Sorry. One further detail:
I am in fact Alistairconnor, too lazy to sign on. Labarador has a pet, who does indeed resemble him in every significant detail.

577. marjoribanks - Sep. 14, 1998 - 8:13 PM PT
Connor,

Do we have a date with webfeet tomorrow?

578. labarjare - Sep. 14, 1998 - 8:19 PM PT
Waiting for telephone confirmation from the unwired one.

579. rickc2000 - Sep. 15, 1998 - 11:51 AM PT
Adam; No problem with waiting until after the frost to transplant your tree. Actually It might be better. After the frost plants go dormant and root growth slows, a perfect time to dig up and transplant. You do want to wait until it is wetter though. When I lived in the Midwest I would do that kind of thing in early October. In your region you may be able to wait longer.

580. chloel - Sep. 15, 1998 - 2:24 PM PT
Silly me, I was assuming the fir is currently in a pot or rootball. If not, if it's going from ground to ground and it just started raining where you are, I agree with rickc200; let it make some growth now & move it when it's stopped in the cold.

Either way, it's probably easier to dig the destination hole now.

581. arkymalarky - Sep. 15, 1998 - 2:37 PM PT
Adam,
I knew there was some reason I liked you in spite of your politics.(g)
Miniature dachshunds do make the best pets. They're fun and loving and not too big or furry to be a problem in the house.

582. CalGal - Sep. 15, 1998 - 2:57 PM PT
And if you get tired of them you can step on them and scrape the resulting mess into the trash bin without too much fuss.

583. Ronski - Sep. 15, 1998 - 2:59 PM PT

Adam,

I'd wait to mid-November where you are; north of D.C., right? And be sure to water well.


Arky, Adam,

Is it true those little guys are prone to back problems because of their body length? Or is that a myth promulgated by longer-legged dogs, jealous because they can't get into those badger holes?


Chloel,

I hope to get an answer from England on sheep cream, tomorrow.

584. arkymalarky - Sep. 15, 1998 - 3:03 PM PT
I know it's true about full-sized ones, but I'm not sure about miniatures. I have a good friend who paid for surgery for her full-sized dog, and they had to put it to sleep for the same problem later. Mine stays outside a lot and gets lots of exercise, and doesn't show any signs of problems, but she's only three.

585. CalGal - Sep. 15, 1998 - 3:05 PM PT
Ronski,

I believe it's true for both full-size and miniatures.

586. Ronski - Sep. 15, 1998 - 3:12 PM PT

Cal, arky,

Thanks. I've always liked them. And since I'm moving to the exurbs, and the significant other loves dogs, we may be in the market. I suppose exercise and diet, especially, are key. (Same can be said of yours truly.)

We were thinking, one whatever from the pound, one breed from the pet shop.

587. arkymalarky - Sep. 15, 1998 - 3:45 PM PT
One thing I've heard and was definitely true for mine is that they're hard to house train. They're smart, but they don't like it when it's cold or rainy outside, and they can be very stubborn.

588. bubbaette - Sep. 15, 1998 - 5:34 PM PT
Ronski

Yes it's true. Our dacshund when I was a kid had a slipped disc and had to be immobilized while it healed. But he took a licking and kept on ticking. He was following too close behind the tractor with a mower bar and when the tractor stopped, he kept going. The vet reattached his leg and he got along famously.

My own little Cal Gal is more daschund than anything else, is long but not quite so low to the ground. No signs of back trouble yet, though she does have a trick knee. She's definately got the digger in her as there's nothing she'd rather do. I can kick the ground and say "get it" and she'll start digging and barking right on the spot. She's also a tremendous rat killer. When dad moved the corn silo, she killed the rats underneath like they were going out of style -- pick one up and shake it real good and then lung for the next one. She killed about 30 in a pretty short period before the rest got away.

589. JustSayYo - Sep. 15, 1998 - 8:21 PM PT
So...I read bubbaettes' story and I'm fuzzy inside. But, I read Cagals' first, I busted a gut. So a mess wipped off my shoe to a loveable pet. hmmm...contrasts hard to explain.

590. thoughtful - Sep. 16, 1998 - 10:02 AM PT
Reminds me of the time I was driving by a field and saw a German Shepherd standing out in the middle of the tall grass. As I drove by, the dog walked closer to the road where the grass was clipped short. Imagine my surprise when I realized the dog had the body of a full-sized shepherd, but dachshund legs! His belly was only about 3" off the ground! That mating must have been a sight to see- talk about a low crouch!

591. ScottLoar - Sep. 16, 1998 - 10:12 AM PT
A dauchsund named "GalGal"; I am sorry, but her every post will now bring to mind a bespectacled dauchsund. Barrel-chested even.

592. CalGal - Sep. 16, 1998 - 10:19 AM PT
(CalGal collapses in mirth.)

Very funny.

Really, Scott. Blowjobs in Suggestions, envisioning my chest in Home & Garden.

Your moral high ground is collapsing beneath you; you shall soon be in the pit of frivolity with the rest of us.

Enjoy.

593. bubbaette - Sep. 16, 1998 - 10:27 AM PT
Scott

When I first posted in the Fray this Spring, I had to wait a while to tell about Cal. But the Fray Cal took it in pretty good humor, though it can be confusing sometimes. I won't mention the times Cal Gal has had accidents while I'm at work, so as not to add to the confusion.

594. AzureNW - Sep. 16, 1998 - 2:24 PM PT

"It is possible to lead a cow upstairs, but not downstairs." ?¿?¿

595. AzureNW - Sep. 16, 1998 - 2:25 PM PT

"A duck's quack doesn't echo, and no one knows why."

That can't be true. I'll have to check that out.

596. AzureNW - Sep. 16, 1998 - 2:27 PM PT


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597. AzureNW - Sep. 16, 1998 - 2:29 PM PT

"The only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is

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598. AzureNW - Sep. 16, 1998 - 2:29 PM PT

"Intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair."

599. AzureNW - Sep. 16, 1998 - 2:30 PM PT

(someone emailed me a pile of trivia)

600. AzureNW - Sep. 16, 1998 - 2:31 PM PT

"Iceland consumes more Coca-Cola per capita than any other nation."

Weird.




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