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1. RosettaStone - 5/7/2001 8:37:23 PM
Must Read
Come in, sit down, tell us what five web sites you go to every morning.
I get up early, about 5:15 a.m. and start with Post and Times.
It's really silent that early in the morning where I live and often can hear the newspaper truck coming down the road throwing newspapers on my neighbors' driveways while I'm reading them online and listening to Imus in the Morning and then C-SPAN "Washington Journal" on radio.
We don't get hard copies of those papers and subscript to the WSJ and New York Times since I get local newspapers at work. Then Drudge, Free Republic and Fox News.
On my desktop icon page I have an hotlink to WRC-TV's "Weather Bug" that gives me local weather information immediately upon signing on the internet. Other than temperature, I only go to that site if the weather is bad.
2. ElliottRW - 5/7/2001 8:46:18 PM
How interesting. Here's where usually I go:
N&O -- A curiously good regional newspaper.
ESPN -- mostly for basketball and golf news.
USA Today -- for pop culture and an alternative sports viewpoint.
A fun place
Another fun place.
That's five. Not my best five, but my most frequent five.
3. vw - 5/7/2001 8:51:57 PM
I start with the NY Times and CNN. Check Weather.com and CNET. And finally, I religiously do the Daily Jigsaw puzzle at Shockwave.com
I don't usally get a peek here or at TT until later in the day.
4. Indiana Jones - 5/7/2001 9:10:29 PM
ETrade
This place
Amazon
CNN
I'm phasing out TT as I no longer post there. Its political discussions have become worse than Free Republic in terms of ra-ra-ism and conspiracy drivel, and they aren't nearly as good as the Freepers at getting breaking news. But I'm not following Politics all that much anymore anyway.
Two sites I don't read daily but I like are Atlantic Monthly and O'Reilly.
NetFlix is recommended for DVD buffs, of course.
And two other nice sites that have something for everyone are National Geographic and PBS.
5. RosettaStone - 5/7/2001 9:24:56 PM
6. joezan - 5/7/2001 10:11:28 PM
I have a news folder on my desktop, and I've probably accumulated over 200 news sites over the years. But these are the sites I visit every morning before leaving for work (the wife says I'm nuts, because I get up 1&1/2 hours before I leave, just to read):
I go here first for local news, then
here for national news.
I sometimes go here if I want something more in-depth than what MSNBC is peddling, and I usually end up
here
7. CalGal - 5/7/2001 10:42:01 PM
Daily:
8. HollyW - 5/7/2001 11:06:19 PM
Uh, nowhere.
Sometimes I check my e-mail, if the kid's asleep.
Whatever news I get is from the radio.
And now I will bow gracefully off this thread.
9. CalGal - 5/7/2001 11:13:26 PM
Well, you show up here and at TT, right? That's two.
Do you check any other sites?
10. concerned - 5/7/2001 11:47:24 PM
I don't go to any five particular sites every morning, but two of the ones I do check regularly have my personal email.
Btw, what is a good search engine nowadays? I've been using altavista, but what it pulls up seem awful short of facts and long on advertising nowadays.
11. CalGal - 5/8/2001 12:04:55 AM
Google is the best search engine, bar none. I used to use Altavista until someone mentioned google to me a couple years ago. Never used anything else again.
12. concerned - 5/8/2001 12:15:01 AM
Thanks, CalGal. I'll give it a try.
Btw, what's with these inane Search Engine names? Google? Why not Simper, or Whiffle?
13. jexster - 5/8/2001 1:24:52 AM
YEA ROSE HAS A THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its high time too!
Like Rose I head str8 for the NYT and the Washington Post. Each and every day first thing.
Not as diligent a practice as I had in DC...long long ago, a galaxy far away when I used to read the hard copy Times, Post and WSJ every day first thing into the Senator's office but then again I ain't gettin paid for what I know nor penalized for what I don't.
Occasional 3d and 4th stops...SFgate.com (the Chronicle) and the LAT. Same for Slate, Salon, American Prospect, The Nation, The New Republic.
I also daily check my e-mail news digest from Democrats.com.
I should be gettin paid for bein so fuckin up to speed on this shit
14. jexster - 5/8/2001 1:26:22 AM
I have recently discovered the Greatness of Google myself.
Its the search engine for AsianWeek where I have been spending some time of late...skin turning yellow..why is that?
15. Dusty - 5/8/2001 7:16:37 AM
concerned
CG is right. I've been using Google for years, ever since it was a beta site. Every once in a while I check an alternative, to see if there is something better, but so far, there isn't.
The name is a deliberate misspelling of Googel. Does that help explain the name?
16. Dusty - 5/8/2001 7:34:29 AM
I start at MyYahoo:
17. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 9:50:38 AM
Maybe I'm biased, but I think this is the best music website on the net.
Chimes of Freedom
But, another one has gotten my attention:
Shelby Lynne is the new Dusty Springfield
18. vw - 5/8/2001 9:53:22 AM
Somebody actually wanted to be the new Dusty Springfield?!?!? (grin)
19. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 10:22:42 AM
Sure, especially if you're from the 1960s--and like British soul and Memphis blues. Dusty was the white queen of soul. The fact that she was a closet lesbian with a lousy hairdo makes it even better.
But, on topic:
ACTORS DEMAND INTERNET PAYMENTS
(BBC) The internet will be one of the major issues surrounding the upcoming talks between acting unions and film bosses...
Actors want a deal for internet rights
By the way, is anyone as impressed as I am with the BBC website. Great pictures, little advertising and talk about a real "WorldWideWeb."
20. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 10:29:02 AM
Oops. Here's the real BBC site
21. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 10:30:47 AM
Sorry. Something's wrong and I'm late for a meeting.
22. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 12:31:17 PM
for bbb:
Re: A word to the wise. And, for the record, DH100 deleted the information at Salon Central soon after publishing it because Kitty observed that deep in the Web-X code is the solution.
"A long time ago at a website far, far away...
Rebel commanders are planning their next move against the evil Galactic Salon Empire. For the first time, all Rebel warships are being brought together for form a single, giant Armada....
...But little do they know the Rebellion is D-H100's doomed. The Emperor has ordered construction of a new armored "hidemessage/bozo" space station more powerful that the first dreaded Web-X Death Star...
WexbHarbor
23. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 1:11:05 PM
G-men online
Declassified info from the FBI makes for interesting reading. Check out files on Marilyn Monroe, Frank Sinatra and John Lennon arranged A-Z by subject including Espionage, Famous Persons, Gangsters and violent crime.
Hey, you might even find someone you know!
24. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 1:32:40 PM
SHOPTALK
This is the website that almost all TV executives, especially news directors, go to first every morning.
Especially the Job Changes column
25. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 2:02:05 PM
Directions to the G-spot
Think FOREPLAY. Because you're both worth it.
26. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 2:25:25 PM
Fired CNN staffers fight AOL/Time Warner on the Web
What started out as angry vanity website by disgrunted CNN employes to settle scores and find new jobs is getting readers--19 million, so far.
Of course it might be because they were the first to show the porn pictures of CNN's latest anchorette, Andrea Thompson.
Plus, a picture of Ted "Ash Wednesday" Turner
27. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 3:30:34 PM
Ferguson Foont, the website
Florida Democratic activist "Fergy the Foonz" was banned by TableTalk for threatening the lives of CNN on-air personalities (and others) after George W. Bush was elected president.
It wasn't pretty. But the former NASA scientist started his own online forum called "Bare-Knuckles Politics!" And he's a heavy-handed moderator.
So far it isn't terribly popular, but if TT goes away, I would expect many of its denizens to move there.
Start Here to see his ugly mug and sign on.
28. PelleNilsson - 5/8/2001 4:02:16 PM
Rosetta
I don't have much to contribute, just stopped by to say I appreciate your efforts (no joke, no irony intended).
29. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 4:10:46 PM
Thanks, Pelle. But you can help.
But what are the five web sites you go to each day?
30. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 4:15:13 PM
WEB QUOTE OF THE WEEK
"I never surf the Net. I don't know the password."
--Beatle George Harrison, in a Yahoo Chatroom, promoting the rerelease of his only decent album ALL THINGS MUST PASS.
(heck, was that the name of the album? I've forgotten.)
31. Jenerator - 5/8/2001 4:34:06 PM
I don't go to any sites every single day. But the most common ones are:
The Dallas Morning News
The Atlanta Journal Constitution
The New York Times
The Daily Telegraph
The Weather Channel
R.C. Sproul's website
Amazon.com
Here
Plus various search engines, depending on what I'm looking for.
32. grannypatsy - 5/8/2001 4:59:20 PM
I don'San Doegp Onsidert know how to link and I am a late riser but there are sites I chcck daily. The Mote, of course. Space.com HST(Hubble deep field space telescope. has incredulous pictures) San Diego Insider. NYT
33. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 5:21:41 PM
SPACE.COM
I'm sure if you ask, granny, somehow will teach you how to cut and paste and link. Dusty is a good teacher.
34. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 5:27:28 PM
I'm curious Jenerator and IJ. Why do you go to Amazon every day (or often).
I do Barnes & Noble, put not all the time.
35. Jenerator - 5/8/2001 5:32:30 PM
To buy stuff!!
The last book I bought was written by F.F. Bruce (a personal favorite). Amazon listed the other books written by him, some of which I hadn't even heard about. I was then able to get in contact with a small book shop owner who cut me a deal on several books and tapes. All thanks to Amazon.
36. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 5:39:05 PM
I don't buy books online. I love going to the bookstores and looking at them up close and personal.
The bookstores now are like rich libraries. Big places with lots going on, including author's readings, free jazz and folk concerts on weekends and Starbucks coffeeshops and lots of soft chairs to sit and read.
I would have thought you go to Amazon to read the book reviews. I'm told they are very popular. (Especially with the authors who "ghost" a lot of them!)
37. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 6:53:54 PM
High Class Hooch
"It's no wonder that a classy giggle juice like Dewar's scotch should have a classy website to match. Learn about its history and its blends."--from PR flyer
Dewarism: "We have a great regard for old age when it's bottled!"
38. LimeGirl - 5/8/2001 7:02:17 PM
I like to read the reviews at Amazon, also I like following their links to other books. I don't much like going to bookstores, when I'm looking for something specific. Everything seems so much harder to find there, compared to type and click searching.
39. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 7:15:01 PM
The links are the thing, LimeGirl. One of the best parts of the internet is how fast you can go from one site to another.
But I like bookstores. My first indoor job as a teenager was working at THE BOOKWORM. Always loved that name!
The new super bookstores are both a blessing and a curse. They've killed the little stores but I just love going to them and finding a comfortable seat with a mug of coffee and reading their magazines/books while listening to musicians playing in another part of the store.
It always good to buy something but they don't care. You can even bring in your laptop and use their electricity!
(except for California, that is)
40. RosettaStone - 5/8/2001 7:29:11 PM
ABOUT THE WELL
I guess it's a Grateful Dead/San Francisco thing but I've always wanted to join The Well. Sixteen years old and started by Ken Kesey friends, ancient acid-trippers and The Whole Earth Catalog's founders Stewart Brand and Larry Brilliant. (no verb in that sentence)
The Well used to have 15,000 members all paying $10 to $15 a month. If you are to believe the publicity from the new book just published about The Well, the number is about 7,000 now.
SALON owns it so if they go bankrupt, The Well is again in for big changes.
Excellent overview of The Well and the community it developed in this free section of the site. Sounds a lot like the old Fray. It's too bad that, instead of Salon buying it with worthless stock, that MS's Bill Gates didn't realize its potential three years ago and keep it as part of SLATE.
What is The Well?
41. Indiana Jones - 5/8/2001 8:52:23 PM
RS: Did you see mine and CalGal's discussion of Amazon? I think they could be a truly revolutionary company.
Where I live now it's a good 40 minute drive to a decent bookstore. Books are about the only thing I buy in quantity. And for every book I buy, I probably read a half dozen reviews.
I also bought my DVD player from Amazon.
42. RosettaStone - 5/9/2001 12:05:46 AM
Negative, IJ. What thread and when, regarding Amazon? Can it be moved, or linked here?
Of course it can be linked here, stupid!
But more on THE WELL....
THE WELL's author Katie Hafner says the online community made history--from a legendary fight against porn hysteria to the simple task of providing information on head lice
43. concerned - 5/9/2001 12:13:05 AM
Re. 15 -
As in what some mathematician's brat burped when he was asking for a name for 10^100?
44. RosettaStone - 5/9/2001 12:19:41 AM
concerned: Someone should teach both of us the linking code to go back to earlier posts in the same thread.
I did so the old-fashioned way and see that your math question is directed to Dusty.
And, now I say goodnight. I'm not going to be here much the next two days--but will try to keep up...
Thanks again to wabbit and Ms. No for giving me the opportunity to start this thread.
45. Dusty - 5/9/2001 8:12:34 AM
concerned
Yes, precisely.
46. Dusty - 5/9/2001 8:16:48 AM
RS
The format for linking to other post within a thread is very easy:
< msg num = ## >
(remove the space before "msg" and replace "##" with the actual post number.)
47. CalGal - 5/9/2001 12:40:35 PM
like this:
<msg num=123>
48. RosettaStone - 5/9/2001 3:50:08 PM
Message # 46
Thanks!
Message # 47
Thanks2!
49. RosettaStone - 5/9/2001 3:57:01 PM
President Bush Wants Permanent Ban on Internet Access Taxes
(CNSNews.Com)--"We need to ban Internet access taxes" permanently, said President Bush May 8th, echoing a position he outlined during his presidential campaign.
Congress passed a three-year ban in 1998, but it will expire on Oct. 21.
The president believes the Internet is vital to commerce and growth, and that taxing it would be economically detrimental.
Bush also wants to extend the current moratorium on Internet sales taxes. That moratorium also expires in October. Right now, Internet sales are treated like catalog sales, which means no sales tax is charged on purchases unless the seller has a physical presence in a particular state. But state and local leaders see the Internet as an important source of sales tax revenues. They fear people will make Internet purchases to avoid paying the sales tax they would be charged if they made the same purchase at a "bricks and mortar" store.
50. marjoribanks - 5/9/2001 4:42:53 PM
Okay, here are my most-visited sites.
I check out these British papers almost everyday:
www.independent.co.uk
www.telegraph.co.uk
www.guardian.co.uk
I read these Indian sites everyday:
www.outlookindia.com
www.samachar.com
www.rediff.com
www.tehelka.com
I usually check out the BBC, NYTimes and WSJ throughout the day for topical stuff. And Amazon to check out music and books I want to know more about.
Google is my one can't-go-without site. I check out everything, including people I'm scheduled to meet. Great resource.
I'm also a big-time user of www.saffronart.com, not to buy but to price. It's outstanding if you're a collector of Indian contemporary art.
51. Stumbo - 5/9/2001 5:42:18 PM
52. RosettaStone - 5/10/2001 8:50:38 AM
Arrrrrrrggggh!
"Do you worry every time you step on a plane that it may be a one-way ticket to the Big Adios? Do you fear that your body will end up as chum for hungry sharks in the Atlantic? Amigoingdown.com breaks down your chances of biting the big one--just enter the details of your flight, carrier and departure times and start a-prayin..."--Maxim Online copy
Reality Bites
53. RosettaStone - 5/10/2001 11:47:47 AM
Does anyone want free, 7-month, subscriptions to the interactive WallStreetJournal? That's the parts you normally have to pay $55 a year to subscript to. Supposedly I can put up to five freebies on this account.
To get password, email me at Iona651@cs.com
wsj
54. RosettaStone - 5/10/2001 1:17:11 PM
The editor of this publication claimed on C-SPAN that ARTS & LETTERS DAILY: An Updated Report of News and Reviews is the number one web site in the world.
Because they don't want to ruin their logo/header, notice the interesting way they position ads on the front page.
Good Reading
55. RosettaStone - 5/10/2001 1:26:56 PM
Matt Drudge gets an average of 2.5 million hits a day, almost 600 million in the past year.
You know that because he publishes the numbers daily.
Here an article by The Cynic that sorta explains why.
I've got the urge to write a hit piece
56. RosettaStone - 5/10/2001 2:40:05 PM
How can you not love something where everyone on earth now has access to all the folk songs published in Sing Out? 57. CalGal - 5/10/2001 4:49:09 PM Stone, 58. RosettaStone - 5/10/2001 5:09:38 PM e-mail Iona651@cs.com, and I'll explain. 59. RosettaStone - 5/10/2001 5:40:24 PM Matt Drudge's dad's reference web site: 60. RosettaStone - 5/11/2001 7:21:49 AM This is how the Dylan buzz works. 61. RosettaStone - 5/11/2001 7:23:07 AM I read it online and...download it here 62. RosettaStone - 5/14/2001 9:08:56 AM LORDS OF THE HYPE 63. RosettaStone - 5/14/2001 4:13:22 PM When Salon.com is good, it's very good 64. RosettaStone - 5/14/2001 5:20:10 PM With ad revenues down 20% from last year and subscriptions falling, are news magazines dying? 65. RosettaStone - 5/15/2001 9:27:21 AM Florida Gov. Jeb Bush Denies rumors of affair with government attorney, who was a former Playboy bunny. 66. Indiana Jones - 5/15/2001 9:48:55 AM Addendum to 64: 67. RosettaStone - 5/15/2001 10:38:10 AM Former Attorney General Janet Reno's Legacy: "Carnivore: Justice Department's Privacy-Invading Internet Software" 68. Jenerator - 5/15/2001 12:21:30 PM Just a few of my favorite Christian websites. More to follow!~ 69. RosettaStone - 5/15/2001 3:12:24 PM Thanks, Jen. My wife is making a list of Christian web sites for our church, and I'll add those to them. 70. RosettaStone - 5/15/2001 3:29:31 PM "I want my streaming audio back! 71. Jenerator - 5/15/2001 7:52:42 PM Rosetta, 72. Jenerator - 5/15/2001 7:54:25 PM I'm sorry, it's 73. RosettaStone - 5/15/2001 8:26:39 PM got it, Jen. blessings... 74. RosettaStone - 5/15/2001 10:33:56 PM Pulling Up Your Family Roots 75. RosettaStone - 5/16/2001 10:08:12 AM Growing Invisibility Is Internet's Utility 76. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/16/2001 10:27:21 AM RustlerPike- 77. RosettaStone - 5/16/2001 12:23:19 PM The Rise & Fall of David Brock 78. RosettaStone - 5/16/2001 2:41:22 PM How Microsoft's Windows Media-Rights Manager Works (sung to: "we will, we will, we will track you..." 79. RosettaStone - 5/16/2001 3:07:06 PM 80. Ronski - 5/16/2001 3:37:06 PM That would be a militant Christian with a serious amount of trouble understanding the Commandment dealing with theft of private property? 81. RosettaStone - 5/16/2001 4:35:27 PM Dig those electric colors! 82. RosettaStone - 5/16/2001 5:29:27 PM Web Quote of the Week 83. RosettaStone - 5/16/2001 6:14:27 PM "I SEE YOU!" 84. RosettaStone - 5/16/2001 7:12:48 PM Duh! Journalists must remember that politically incorrect views are entitled to an airing--especially on public radio. 85. wonkers2 - 5/16/2001 9:22:34 PM Amen, brother! 86. RosettaStone - 5/16/2001 10:55:30 PM LORD OF THE RINGS Update from Cannes 87. RosettaStone - 5/17/2001 10:13:41 AM Disk vs. disc. When you write about technology, the spelling depends on what kind of storage the word refers to: optical or magnetic. When you describe an optical storage device or a medium, it's a disc. 88. JudithAtHome - 5/17/2001 2:20:32 PM Here's a story on Salons possible future: 89. RosettaStone - 5/17/2001 4:16:53 PM Judith: Do me a favor and post in the PREMIUM thread in SALON Central asking how many people have signed up for its $30 a year service. The most that SLATE ever got was 23-25,000, according to Irv. 90. Indiana Jones - 5/17/2001 4:19:46 PM From Judith's link: "The companies that are left standing six months to a year from now will be very valuable." 91. RosettaStone - 5/17/2001 4:27:52 PM A NEW LOW FOR DRUDGE 92. RosettaStone - 5/17/2001 5:30:41 PM SLATE Finally Asks the Big Question: What Happened to The West Wing's Token Conservative? 93. JudithAtHome - 5/17/2001 5:44:22 PM Rosetta: 94. RosettaStone - 5/17/2001 6:14:43 PM New Mote Member Clay Waters Has His Own Political Web Site 95. RosettaStone - 5/17/2001 9:40:37 PM Rep. Jim Moran's birthday nightmare 96. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 12:03:57 AM More than a Palmtop, Not Quite a PC 97. RustlerPike - 5/18/2001 3:38:07 AM Message # 76: thank you Wiz, it's a beauty. 98. RustlerPike - 5/18/2001 3:42:02 AM Wiz - have you heard of Han Hoogerbrugge? (Click on the link on the right that says 'Flash Column' - it's wicked). 99. RustlerPike - 5/18/2001 3:51:54 AM I think Rosie wanted me to link to this here, so I am. 100. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/18/2001 10:48:27 AM Pike- An M80 is an industrial strength firecracker and southern states sell them -- especially around The Fourth of July. 101. Fielding - 5/18/2001 10:49:50 AM Rosetta: 102. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/18/2001 11:04:22 AM Pike- Thanks--Hoogerbrugge is my kinda guy! 103. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 12:25:34 PM FOR THE PRESS,TOO, A FALL FROM THE HYPES: Tech Crash Derailed Careers of Many Who Covered Silicon Valley 104. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 12:29:37 PM Thanks RP and Wizard for adding graphics to this thread. 105. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/18/2001 12:57:24 PM Rose- Where can this “tank battle” be viewed? 106. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 1:02:43 PM Dismissed for Chat Room, CIA Workers Speak Out 107. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 1:11:33 PM Wizard: Go to post #99. Hit the hotlink, etc. 108. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/18/2001 1:17:08 PM Rosie- Thanks— I totally overlooked it in scrolling. Great application for the software! 109. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 1:25:45 PM Yes. He talked about why and how in detail 2 months ago--in either the WAR or INTERNATIONAL threads. 110. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/18/2001 1:38:16 PM Rose- Thanks for the honor, but my plate is full too — I leave next Saturday for a two week painting vaction on the Cape. 111. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 1:47:23 PM No, wabbit and the other moderators want this thread to succeed. It's a natural. And it doesn't need a lot of chat to succeed. 112. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/18/2001 2:59:47 PM Happy to help Rose! 113. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 5:27:15 PM Examples of media bias, especially Viacom's Dan Rather 114. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 5:56:18 PM Rhode Island & Cape Cod 115. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 8:10:55 PM The Little Magazine that still Haunts the Leftists 116. RosettaStone - 5/18/2001 10:27:05 PM FREE FROM PAUL McCARTNEY'S "HITS & HISTORY" 117. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/19/2001 12:21:36 AM I just received this email: 118. CalGal - 5/19/2001 12:24:21 AM Congrats! 119. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/19/2001 12:30:22 AM Thanks Cal -- it's not an NEA Fellowship, but it's a start! 120. PelleNilsson - 5/19/2001 3:50:52 AM Support our Wizard! He has only 7% of the votes but people of discerning taste know he deserves more. Vote now! 121. RosettaStone - 5/19/2001 8:54:16 AM As hard as it was for me to look at his graphics again (g), I voted. But Wizard has only 27 votes to far. 122. RosettaStone - 5/19/2001 9:31:26 AM 123. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/19/2001 10:11:09 AM Thanks for the generosity of spirit, Rosie. 124. JudithAtHome - 5/19/2001 10:33:11 AM I was amazed at how many votes Molly Ivins had...and no, I didn't vote for her; I voted for Jim Hightower. 125. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/19/2001 11:45:24 AM Which explains why CunninghamStrikes has gotten so many votes — the Hack!!! 126. JudithAtHome - 5/19/2001 11:49:25 AM Wiz: 127. Indiana Jones - 5/19/2001 12:26:15 PM
Find all the songs written by Jesse Winchester, The Clancy Brothers, Tom Paxton, Phil Oches--or my favorite, Traditional
Seriously, on the WSJ? That's a hell of an offer. Are they doing this for all subscribers?
Basically the deal is that I have an account--and can (supposedly) add five more to use it. I'll give you the password. The subscription expires Dec. 31.
Quick Reference/Research
Background: Bill Drudge goes into the digital history books for giving his son his first computer (surely, bound for the Smithsonian someday) and then, years later, starting his own web site that's very popular with the CIA, Pentagon and the State Dempartment.
(For example, it's used extensively around the world by our overseas military. Sec. of State Powell says he goes to REFDESK three, four times a day after getting recommendations about it from his friends in the Pentagon.)
Heard Drudge tell a funny story about his dad on C-SPAN two weeks ago. The father was married four or five times. Matt Drudge's mother is number two. Bill Drudge embarrassed his kid in the early 1970s by being arrested demonstrating outside the Pentagon protesting the war.
It sounded straight out of an old New Yorker cartoon showing the parents as hippies smoking dope while their kids are in business suits carrying briefcases meeting deadlines. The parents look confused! (I've forgotten the copy line.)
I hear on Imus that a great article on the bard is in today's New York Times. Even though a hard copy of the newspaper is still on the driveway, I read it and...
Dylan Keeps A-Changin'.
The three-year LORD OF THE RINGS flog fest promises to be the most fully realized online publicity campaign to date...
DON'T LOOK BACK: Two new books make it clear why Bob Dylan had to ditch the phony, self-righteous Greenwich Village folk scene
Ad Age says yes, and blames the Internet.
Print publishers are in a tough place on all fronts...
Bush had denied the affair in off-the-record conversations with several Tallahasse reporters Friday, but decided to go public Monday after the rumors were repeated on the Internet...
The Gutenberg Purge
In today's electronic age, an invasion of privacy is only a point and click away.
ACLU Attacks Clinton's Carnivore Monster
Christian resources. A guide to Christian resources on the Internet.
Christianity Today Magazine. A helpful Christian publication.
Ancient to Medieval Timeline of Church History.
Tony Evans. One of my favorite pastors.
As most of you know, in the past few months, a tremendous number of radio stations have pulling their streaming audio from the net. This developed out of demand made by the AFTRA union...
Be sure and have her add:
Sermon search.org
Sermon search.COM
The Futility of Digital Copy Prevention
Music, videos, books on the internet. Freely available to anyone without paying. The entertainment industry sees services like Napster as the death of its business and it's using every technical and legal means possible to prevail against them....But, it's an impossible task
Starting last month visitors to Ellis Island, New York City, can search for their ancestors using a new computer archive of immigrants who passed through the port from 1892 to 1924. The database is the result of a massive volunteer effort by the Mormons: it took some five million hours of converting ship ledgers on film to digital files.
It's also online at www.ellisislandrecords.org
Nearly 60 perecent of American homes are hooked up to the Internet; even more offices are connected. More than half the wired nation logs on in a typical day. People spend an average of 16 hours a month online, according to a Nielsen/NetRagins study. In halting but relentless steps, the global computer network is next going mobile, with enormous implications.
This was originally a video file, downloaded to The Fray by Squids, years ago.
I assume the original video of the explosion was done with an M80 set off in a small head-shaped watermelon and then edited with the head of an announcer superimposed over the melon.
I took the video and converted it to individual frames (that I could manipulate in Photoshop) with a screen capture application called Flash-it — I think — it was long ago.
In PS, I used the layers and filters to superimpose Heston’s head (in various stages of deterioration) onto the original footage.
It wasn’t as tedious as it sounds. The key is to know PS’s capabilities — which are exceedingly powerful.
Then the PS file was animated in ImageReady or whatever software was available at the time.
And, for publicitiy purposes, do we have another lawsuit threatened against Internet journalist Matt Drudge?
MS's Windows Media Rights Manager lets content providers deliver songs, video, and other media over the Internet in a protected, encrypted file format...
See you at the Cobra Lounge!
"I'm not a drug dealer. I'm a urine dealer."
--Kenneth Curtis, of Greenville County, SC, arrested for his Internet business, which helps people beat drug tests.
www.livewebcam.com
FROZEN OUT
This is long, but you won't be sorry
Example: laser disc.
But use disk for magnetic storage items such as hard disk, floppy disk, or diskette.
Salon Races Clock, Hoping Profits Arrive Before Backing Dries Up
The San Francisco online media firm, one of the hippest sites on the Internet, is scrambling to raise enough money to keep it afloat until the magical moment when it breaks even.
All our businesses should be so lucky as to survive without profit for such an extended length of time...
It's been a month since they started. David Talbot has said that he hopes that 50 to 70,000 people subscribe. Whenever I asked that question there, the post is deleted.
Why?
Gay Journalist: I'm having an affair with a "Major League Baseball" player and I want him to come out of the closet to make my life easier.
Ainsley: Now More Than Ever
That question has been asked repeatedly by people who are more favored than I...which would be anyone other than you posting on that thread...and they have been completely ignored. I read the thread every day but have quit posting on it; that is the main question being asked and they are not gonna answer. (I've been at lunch but they hadn't answered as of 3 hours ago...I'll let you know IF they ever do so...)
And updates it regularly with topical editorial copy
Another Democratic congressman has a problem with a girlfriend. But this time he doesn't murder her.
Web Pads Promise Truly Portable Computing But Obstacles Remain, Including Cost
PS - what's an M80 and how easy are they to get Over There?
Another interesting Flash work: Memento.
Thanks for the links -- I'll check them out.
"Another Democratic congressman has a problem with a girlfriend. But this time he doesn't murder her."
You are a fool.
This is a flash-movie experiment of mine, but CAUTION -- don't play it in a work enviornment -- it's loud!
FIREFACE2
Howard Kurtz of the Washington Post interviews Red Herring magazine editors and others about dot.com layoffs
Pike's Israeli tank battle graphics of the 1967 war are already being looked at by college professors at a major Washington university. Whatever feedback I get, I'll share.
Four CIA employees, fired for their involvment with a private and unauthorized chat network on the agency's computer system, said in interviews this week that the agency had treated them far too harshly for what they considered a harmless social activity
"...a harmless social activity?"
RustlerPike did this?
I love tanks and really got a kick out of it.
BTW, Wizard, I'm looking for a co-host here. I expect that this thread will eventually become one of Mote's evergreen ones and would be honored if you would share the duties.
In fact, if you want the solo-name host "honor," I'll give it to you. I have too much baggage to keep it up solo, especially since I will be out of town on business next week and will be traveling to Ireland this summer. Plus, horrors for wabbit, I have other ideas for threads.
Though I could probably take up your duties while you’re in Ireland if you don’t leave before June 10th.
And Wabbit may balk at that idea.
Just interesting web sites to hype.
But I don't have the ability to make it visual. Any help that you, RP and others can give is appreciated.
Another reason to link to the column in the New York Post is to see the cute cartoon ad for a mortgage company. One of the few ads that got my attention.
"(Bill Clinton) can be an honest person and lie about any number of things," says "journalist" Rather on the Fox News Channel, buried deep in the media column
The column highlights a new web site well worth your reading.
www.smartertimes.com
Beep & Beach in New England
And, Brewster, my favorite Cape Cod village is mentioned.
At the time, the White House refused to acknowledge it existed. Now the Democrats claim it destroyed the Clinton presidency. Not bad
Download the previously unreleased "Coming Up" from "Wingspan Live in Glasgow"
MUSIC
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Suggest that Jexster and CD be notified. Jex has a great network of friends in SF and CD controls the homosexual hordes in TT.
Someone (who isn't banned) should start a thread in TT in the Politics thread to get it organized.
But the weird thing is, I voted twice for Wiz and both counted.
Thanks J@H.
My thoughts exactly...I voted on all the other catagories and no one is as far ahead as that guy, except for Gary Trudeau.
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| Home & Away | 821 |
| House & Garden | 898 |
| Imagination | 5,185 |
| International | 1,068 |
| Mind & Spirit | 1,600 |
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128. PelleNilsson - 5/19/2001 12:38:57 PM
Indy
Do you have any earlier stats to compare with? I only move in International and I'm quite sure that posting there is significantly down.
How did you come by these stats in the first place?
129. arkymalarky - 5/19/2001 12:45:18 PM
How do we get some for the Mote to compare? I know we're not close to that number, but it'd be nice to know. Alistair hasn't given any numbers in a while.
130. Indiana Jones - 5/19/2001 12:48:52 PM
Pelle: No, this is the first time I did it because it takes about an hour. I just didn't log in and totalled them by hand. If you aren't logged in, posts in the last week show as new posts.
131. JudithAtHome - 5/19/2001 12:55:58 PM
It sort of mirrors stuff here...Health, Arts, Technology, Science, and News are low postings....Private Life and Politics (if you combine White House with it) are the highest.
What is interesting to me is Movies is so much lower and Television so much higher...
132. Indiana Jones - 5/19/2001 1:08:34 PM
I don't know that this is the place to discuss it, because with all the links that get posted in this thread I'm not sure how conducive it is to conversation, but I'd like a discussion of what others see the Mote as being/becoming. For want of a better term, I'd like a Mote "mission statement."
Sometimes I have one impression of this place, sometimes another. Originally my perception was that it was thought of as something dynamic; more and more I think we are content (and perhaps relieved even) to view it as static. If we reach a consensus one way or the other, perhaps some of the churning and conflict here can be resolved.
I don't think we should espouse one thing and practice another, though, because that inevitably leads to almost ceaseless conflict when the contradictions become evident. I'm not talking about the RoE problem from yesterday but more things like redesign, new features, new posters, new threads, etc.
Maybe this goes on the New Threads and Features thread, but I'd like a more generalized batting about, rather than a defensive reaction that anything brought up here is a demand for immediate change.
133. Indiana Jones - 5/19/2001 1:10:27 PM
(The TT info was posted as just some hard data for consideration within this larger context. Some cringe at the idea that we should in any way mimic TT, but regardless, they're a bigger operation in all aspects so their experience is useful information.)
134. JudithAtHome - 5/19/2001 1:16:52 PM
If the discussion shifts to another place, I'd like to say this in response to Rosettas quote above about someone finding this place spooky and scary:
The people I've contacted amd invited over are all from TT and rather entrenched there; many have said they will come here if TT folds but that right now, they don't want to add a new "obsession" to their on-line activity. But at least 8 people have said they checked us out and think it looks like a great place...I know one for sure has already registered.
So contacting people via private e-mail does work and Rosetta has suggested this many times as a way to get new people interested. I've done about 35 letters and have received about a third of that in return e-mail responses.
135. Indiana Jones - 5/19/2001 1:22:14 PM
Judith: I think my last couple of posts aren't a shift at all from what you're talking about.
But I think we first have to reach a stated consensus of what we want for the Mote. Do we want more people? Do we want more people like us? It seems to me we say we want one thing and act as though we want another.
Going back to the TT data, I was amazed at the number of posts in folder I never visited. Therefore at least for me personally, were the Mote to grow to the size of TableTalk I'd have to assume that the vast majority of discussion going on here wouldn't interest me at all.
136. arkymalarky - 5/19/2001 1:24:34 PM
(Excuse my statement of the obvious) Since Salon has tried to be a money-making venture and TT is supposed to be a draw for that, their whole purpose is somewhat different from ours--warm bodies are more important than quality conversation. Due to the generosity of the people who provide for and maintain this site, we have a freedom TT doesn't and really can't have. Slate could have maintained it with little fuss on their part, but it didn't benefit them in any way to do so.
Point of the above paragraph: I've watched this place 3 and a half years now, and I really don't think we could change the tenor of it if we wanted to. Irv said we'd have to attract more people or we'd die, but I disagree. We have to realize the value of the people we do have, especially the diversity (not that there shouldn't be more, but such as it is), and work to retain what we have and make ourselves known to enough new people that those whose tastes fit this spot will come and stay.
A bit of spicing up in the design and a few tweaks and changes might help get people to linger long enough to get hooked on the content, but I don't think it's a crucial need. WoW's attitude toward it is right, imo, and I like his design and the move to a completely different feel and color scheme. If we make a change it ought to be enough that we all notice it, imo.
137. jexster - 5/19/2001 1:26:31 PM
Here's one I picked up via Slate's Chatterbox in a piece about the rap sheet of felon and Bush nominee for depty interior secty
Rapsheets.com - The Largest Collection on the Net
138. arkymalarky - 5/19/2001 1:27:15 PM
There's always the possibility, too, that attracting a large number of people (say with the demise of TT) would drown the founders and the whole site would be completely different and the Mote would die in that sense.
139. Indiana Jones - 5/19/2001 1:33:59 PM
[At TT] warm bodies are more important than quality conversation. Due to the generosity of the people who provide for and maintain this site, we have a freedom TT doesn't and really can't have....We have to realize the value of the people we do have, especially the diversity (not that there shouldn't be more, but such as it is), and work to retain what we have and make ourselves known to enough new people that those whose tastes fit this spot will come and stay.
Okay, arky. IMO you come down on the side of the Mote staying pretty much the way it is with small, focused recruitment efforts aimed mainly at replenishing what we have and keeping the site so that current regulars are happy. Is that a fair characterization?
I'm not sure how diverse we are, BTW, but the point of this discussion I'm hoping will be for everyone to express what they want and think, rather than to try to persuade. It would be best IMO to reach a stateable consensus and those who don't like it learn to live with it or go elsewhere--rather than words versus actions sometimes giving mixed signals.
140. Indiana Jones - 5/19/2001 1:35:36 PM
I'm signing off now, but I hope some others will weigh in one way or the other as arky has done.
141. PelleNilsson - 5/19/2001 1:40:40 PM
The "spooky place" quote was posted by me, not by Rosetta.
142. arkymalarky - 5/19/2001 1:41:22 PM
Is that a fair characterization?
Not really. I just don't think a consensus and enough action generated from it will ever develop to make the Mote any other way, and no amount of discussion will ever result in the clear direction you'd like to see. Many, many posts have been devoted to it already with little to no effect. I am fine with that, though, or I'd have gotten bored and left long ago.
For myself, personally, I truly have no preference as to the Mote's direction at all. I will stay as long as I enjoy it here, no matter what changes and what stays the same. When I am no longer happy spending time here, for whatever reason--it could be the infighting gets too much, or we get too much of an influx of people whose posts I don't enjoy reading, or the topics and conversations change to rarely being of my interest, or any number of things that could occur regardless of the size--I will quit participating. I have no interest in online forums in general and wouldn't find another one to participate in if I left this one or it died.
143. marjoribanks - 5/19/2001 1:55:33 PM
Indy,
1) There can and will be no "consensus" for growth, unfortunately. It took me some time to accept this, and it still disappoints me.
2) This place does have certain strengths. Number one is the interface (God Bless the Father of the Motion). Number two is the lack of need for income. Number three (most crucial) is the small group of truly unusual and worthwhile people who frequent this place making it (in those areas) unlike and unsually superior to alternatives anywhere on the web.
3) But these people generally do not stick around endlessly to rehash matters in a circle-jerk, they also tend to have real lives and thus less absolute need to spend hours on-line contributing to discussion. They can and will leave for a number of reasons but boredom will remain the number one reason.
4) Thus, growth, the addition of QUALITY members is crucial. It supplies both interesting new material and experiences to learn, and new ways to approach arguments that have been well-hashed out within the extant members. I give you the example of the International thread, most of my own reason for hanging out here, which gained some much-needed spark and momentum by the addition of a regular new member.
5) Without this kind of activity, the main force at work in this forum will be attrition. And The Mote will further reduce and reduce itself, until on the supremely-invested and ubiquitous are left shouting at themselves.
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I consider the "debate" over style change to be symptomatic of the entrenched attitude displayed by some sticks-in-the-mud who are somehow invested in PREVENTING growth and change, even denying the obvious virtue of alternatives to the same-old same-old.
144. JudithAtHome - 5/19/2001 1:57:14 PM
IJ:
(The shift I was referring to was to another THREAD...I meant before we move the discussion to Suggestions, for instance.)
I think we could use some new people...sometimes I feel as though we resemble Great Expectations ; Mrs. Havershams cake. Many think we are fine as we are...and maybe that's true...but a few new ideas wouldn't hurt.
There really is a load of history around here and everyone seems to know what everyone else already thinks (or at least, some think they know) and after awhile, it just gets to be "Oh yeah? Well___insert argument #5____; so there!"
I hang around the Television thread a lot in TT and there are wonderful discussions there about law, politics, social interaction, all sorts of stuff taking off from television programs. I think a seperate TV thread or even sub-thread would be a good idea here and have said so in the past but it's not taken very seriously. As it stands now, if there is a fascinating movie discussion going on, no one wants to interrupt it for a few remarks about a TV show...
That's not an earthshattering idea but it might work; never know til you try. Of course, if it's fine with everyone the way it is, no need to try. Just as if it's fine with everyone that we remain "Our Gang", like Indy says, we should decide that and maintain the status quo.
145. JudithAtHome - 5/19/2001 1:58:31 PM
Pelle:
The "spooky place" quote was posted by me, not by Rosetta.
Ooops!
146. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/19/2001 4:46:34 PM
147. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/19/2001 4:55:14 PM
FYI Dept. Et Al:
[QuickTime Needed]
148. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/20/2001 1:52:49 AM
I appreciate whomever placed: "Bushie Awards--Support the Wiz and Vote!" in the Topics Of Interest bar, but it's linked to a dead archived thread. 149. RustlerPike - 5/20/2001 6:15:06 AM I've voted Wiz but if they enable multiple voting then you should either get a multiple vote scam going, Wizzer, or you should notify the guy who sent you that e-mail that the voting is invalid and they should start over. 150. PelleNilsson - 5/20/2001 6:31:47 AM The news link works fine for me. 151. RustlerPike - 5/20/2001 6:35:23 AM Rosie: 152. PelleNilsson - 5/20/2001 6:42:03 AM Any tips on a good site for free GIFs? 153. RosettaStone - 5/20/2001 1:35:18 PM Being a former Democrat, I got to vote for Wizard a second time. He now has 105 votes 154. RosettaStone - 5/20/2001 1:40:36 PM click onto the first-generation cyber robot newscaster. Video in circle, upper left corner. Here 155. JudithAtHome - 5/20/2001 1:41:34 PM I told the truth about voting twice yesterday, too, so don't act like it's a Republican virtue. 156. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/20/2001 2:01:34 PM Hey thanks folks, but it's probably a lost cause. Those other sites are pretty self-promoting and appeal to the unripe crowd with way too much time and energy on their hands. 157. RustlerPike - 5/20/2001 2:13:38 PM Hey thanks folks, but it's probably a lost cause. 158. RustlerPike - 5/20/2001 2:46:50 PM Any tips on a good site for free GIFs? 159. PelleNilsson - 5/20/2001 3:22:29 PM Thanks Rustler but I asked for GIFs not GIFTs. 160. RustlerPike - 5/20/2001 3:40:29 PM I have the feeling that is WoW's real name so you shouldn't mention it here. 161. PelleNilsson - 5/20/2001 4:00:26 PM I know. You didn't do anything wrong in my view. But there are lawyers' minds around here which could construe it differently. 162. RosettaStone - 5/20/2001 4:27:01 PM Two stars keep not their motion in one sphere. 163. RosettaStone - 5/20/2001 5:46:08 PM 164. RosettaStone - 5/20/2001 7:19:29 PM World's Largest Record Company, Vivendi Universal, Buying MP3.com for $372 M 165. RosettaStone - 5/21/2001 9:00:09 AM I will be in NYC for next three, four days. Need help from others while we're gone, adding posts and links. 166. janjon - 5/21/2001 6:00:15 PM Damn. I just got back from a long weekend in Mexico City and can't leave again for the next three or four days. 167. RustlerPike - 5/25/2001 3:16:38 AM Pelle: 168. RustlerPike - 5/25/2001 3:19:31 AM A weird story about an incident in a web forum has been in the news. This is the guy's confession. 169. RustlerPike - 5/25/2001 3:21:54 AM Another weblog. Rosie, if you want to keep this thread lively I think you should make daily visits to weblogs like this and Lindsay Marshall's and scoop out the coolest links for us. What do you say? Are you up to it? 170. RustlerPike - 5/25/2001 3:43:37 AM 171. RustlerPike - 5/25/2001 3:45:42 AM 172. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 5/25/2001 6:48:18 PM "Sometimes you have to SMACK him to get his attention!" 173. RustlerPike - 5/26/2001 1:22:34 AM 174. RosettaStone - 5/28/2001 7:35:44 AM I'm up for it, RP. And thanks for your posts while we were away! 175. RosettaStone - 5/28/2001 8:40:04 AM What we have here is a failure to communicate.... 176. Indiana Jones - 5/28/2001 3:04:55 PM 177. Indiana Jones - 5/28/2001 3:05:04 PM 178. RosettaStone - 5/28/2001 6:04:45 PM IJ: Thanks for doing this research. Vermont's newly-discovered "independent" senator clearly got TT's Politics folder moving last week for Salon. 179. Indiana Jones - 5/29/2001 4:04:48 PM Incidentally, TT gets an incredible amount of traffic from "Buffy" fans. Don't know that I've ever seen any discussion here about Buffy, but she's one hot seller at TableTalk. 180. RosettaStone - 5/29/2001 4:17:32 PM Someone who isn't banned, should link IJ's stats to Salon Central. Especially if he is going to do it weekly. 181. JudithAtHome - 5/29/2001 4:22:08 PM There's a thread in Private Life called Deborah Grabiens Something Something...it's on it's 13th sequel. It's an off topic thread and many on there are Buffistas. 182. PelleNilsson - 5/29/2001 4:28:52 PM Who or what is Buffy? 183. JudithAtHome - 5/29/2001 4:37:24 PM A character in a series here called Buffy the Vampire Slayer . 184. CalGal - 5/29/2001 4:44:18 PM I did the week stats for us yesterday and then forgot to post it. they're on my other pc. 185. JudithAtHome - 5/29/2001 4:48:13 PM Did you do it by person? 'Cause it would break Rosies heart if he found out I don't post 300 posts a day, as he has alleged. 186. Indiana Jones - 5/29/2001 4:58:18 PM Pelle: They don't have Buffy in Sweden? 187. RosettaStone - 5/29/2001 11:48:11 PM The real "Vertical Limit" 188. RosettaStone - 5/30/2001 8:34:40 AM World Domination of the Internet begins with a woman named Connie. Think Mary Poppins, cyber style 189. RustlerPike - 5/30/2001 8:46:23 AM 190. Dusty - 5/30/2001 9:05:48 AM RosettaStone 191. RosettaStone - 5/30/2001 1:52:04 PM What experiences, Dusty! I like mountain hiking, not rock climbing, and the only mountains I've ever climbed were easy ones--Longs' Peak in Colorado and Half Dome in Yosemite, CA. 192. arkymalarky - 5/30/2001 6:17:02 PM Long's Peak is cool. 193. RustlerPike - 5/31/2001 7:13:15 AM Pike's peak is long. 194. RustlerPike - 5/31/2001 7:15:26 AM 195. Indiana Jones - 5/31/2001 8:36:29 AM Charles Atlas shrugged! 196. khaval alazman - 5/31/2001 8:38:49 AM Arf! 197. RosettaStone - 5/31/2001 8:52:42 AM CONSERVATIVES RULE!!! 198. Dusty - 5/31/2001 3:34:04 PM Not just for Douglas Adams fans: 199. jexster - 5/31/2001 3:59:49 PM I am an 8 with a 9 wing...if you don't know what that means and want to find out what you are 200. RosettaStone - 5/31/2001 4:17:25 PM Welcome back, jexster. Energy to burn? 201. JudithAtHome - 5/31/2001 4:20:02 PM Congratulations on reaching the big 200, Rose. 202. RosettaStone - 5/31/2001 5:58:56 PM Thanks, Judith. This thread has legs... 203. RosettaStone - 6/1/2001 2:54:55 PM Someday soon all Wars will Start on the Internet 204. JudithAtHome - 6/1/2001 3:07:23 PM You've got mail, Stone. 205. JudithAtHome - 6/1/2001 3:10:23 PM Well, no, strangely enough, you do not. The letter I just sent to the address you have provided above was returned by the Webmaster of the city of Georgetown, Texas. She asked me to contact you and have you take care of the matter. 206. RosettaStone - 6/1/2001 3:16:15 PM I hope it's not a mash note, Judith! 207. JudithAtHome - 6/1/2001 3:18:53 PM I'll forward it entire to you and you can see that the Georgetown address doesn't work...where do you want it sent? Iona or Harris? 208. RosettaStone - 6/1/2001 3:29:52 PM Iona651, but ram3 should work. 210. JudithAtHome - 6/1/2001 3:34:46 PM You ought to delete these last few posts...I don't mind in the least if you do. 211. RosettaStone - 6/1/2001 3:41:11 PM Your mistake was that you sent it originally to georgetown.com, not georgetown.edu. 214. JudithAtHome - 6/1/2001 3:47:17 PM You have used "org" in the host address instead of "edu". 215. RosettaStone - 6/1/2001 6:26:20 PM BROKEN SAINTS 216. RosettaStone - 6/2/2001 12:12:52 AM Another example of how when Democrat congressmen are racist, it's buried on the internet. But let a Republican say this, and it would be the lead 217. jexster - 6/2/2001 1:21:21 AM Don't have to pick on Pete Rosie 218. RosettaStone - 6/2/2001 9:00:42 AM Doesn't surprise me in the least, Jex, since you're a member of the mean-spirited and energy-starved Democratic party. 219. RosettaStone - 6/2/2001 1:27:11 PM BOOS GREET COKE-SNORTING MOZART OPERA 220. RosettaStone - 6/2/2001 7:24:39 PM where=were 221. RosettaStone - 6/2/2001 7:31:48 PM Whatever Happened To Competition? 222. JudithAtHome - 6/2/2001 8:32:47 PM Painfully "hort"? That does sound painful... 223. arkymalarky - 6/2/2001 8:36:21 PM Shouldn't Rose put [sic] by those? 224. arkymalarky - 6/2/2001 8:38:16 PM Does anyone spend a lot of time playing games on the net? I thought when we had the thread on Chess and Bridge I might learn Bridge and practice both games online, but never found time for it. 225. jexster - 6/2/2001 9:24:23 PM Arky....I used to go to the Bridge game at MSN a long time ago...it was fun but would be better with a partner its the only way to learn, or in my case to recover what's been lost. 226. jexster - 6/2/2001 9:26:16 PM But now my attention has turned to FreeRepublic.com. I am fascinated to see how the mental half lives.... 227. arkymalarky - 6/2/2001 10:48:56 PM Jex, 228. RosettaStone - 6/3/2001 1:03:04 AM 229. RustlerPike - 6/3/2001 2:00:47 AM One of the more interesting links I've linked to. Is it for real? Why did they choose a cute kitten instead of an ugly, older cat? Sto - if you are here - there is a remark about a lame brained Dane you may want to respond to. 230. RosettaStone - 6/3/2001 6:45:35 PM Outdoors, Free and in D.C! 231. RosettaStone - 6/3/2001 9:00:20 PM John Adams: AUDIO INTERNET INTERVIEW 232. RosettaStone - 6/4/2001 12:24:51 PM ...and half of them were between Judith@home and CalGal 233. robertjayb - 6/4/2001 5:29:43 PM ...for no particular reason: 234. RosettaStone - 6/4/2001 6:58:10 PM Why so personal? Are these guys just acting like playground bullies? What is it about the Web that fuels such slashing attacks? 235. wabbit - 6/4/2001 8:19:34 PM I've been wanting to post stuff here since the thread opened, and now that I can type a bit, here are a few of my favorite freebie programs: 236. RosettaStone - 6/5/2001 4:51:51 PM Ad Report Card: Pop Life 237. RosettaStone - 6/5/2001 10:08:10 PM EMI FIRST IN DOWNLOADS 238. RosettaStone - 6/6/2001 10:02:54 AM Add a Snooze Alarm 239. RosettaStone - 6/6/2001 12:03:41 PM Rosetta Disk is Foundation's Gift to Future Linguists 240. wabbit - 6/6/2001 12:56:57 PM from Jason Levine: 241. RosettaStone - 6/6/2001 5:09:44 PM "You'll find things on this site that will annoy or even infuriate you." 242. RosettaStone - 6/6/2001 7:56:08 PM The Mini-Me of MP3 243. RosettaStone - 6/7/2001 3:33:15 PM GEOGRAPHY & MAPS: Library of Congress 244. RosettaStone - 6/7/2001 6:48:41 PM It's Alright Ma (he's only 60) 245. RosettaStone - 6/7/2001 8:43:04 PM Journalists find it easier to use E-Mail to Interview NBA Sports Owner 246. RosettaStone - 6/8/2001 8:44:26 AM Heavyweights AOL and Microsoft Duel for Internet Supremacy 247. RosettaStone - 6/8/2001 3:13:09 PM From the local Austin, TX, newspaper... 248. janjon - 6/8/2001 4:54:44 PM And the relevancy to this...vibrant...thread? 249. RosettaStone - 6/8/2001 5:33:05 PM Like the headline says, janice. I'm exploring the web for interesting web sites/web stories. 250. janjon - 6/8/2001 5:37:14 PM bullshit, Stone. 251. RosettaStone - 6/8/2001 5:47:45 PM I can't help you then, janice. Either you're on the bus, or you're off the bus. Either way, we're moving down the highway of life... 252. janjon - 6/8/2001 5:49:50 PM well, that's it. All posting here does is puff up your traffic a bit. 253. RosettaStone - 6/8/2001 6:01:58 PM Adios, janice, and next time take your shoes off before coming in. 254. RosettaStone - 6/8/2001 11:23:05 PM (credit to pogie for talking about this web site in another thread tonight) 255. don s. - 6/9/2001 3:33:03 AM For Rosie ... and "C" 256. don s. - 6/9/2001 3:33:23 AM tick ... tick ... tick ... 257. AceofSpades - 6/9/2001 3:40:41 AM 258. don s. - 6/9/2001 3:45:08 AM Fun? Fun? You think this is fun? 259. vw - 6/9/2001 9:08:35 AM Hey I am not a fan of Rosie but that sucked Don. Dragging a snit attack from another thread into this one is disruptive and low. 260. RosettaStone - 6/9/2001 10:13:40 AM Don is just doing his homosexual-recruitment thingy, gentlemen. It's part of their job description which is why the Boy Scouts don't want them in leadership positions in the org. "Gays" are constantly recruiting because they die off so quickly. 261. dusty - 6/10/2001 8:29:44 PM Interesting that Salon.com changed its name to Salon Media Group, Inc. 262. wabbit - 6/12/2001 8:35:21 AM Homestead is going to a pay-or-have-a-limited-feature model. 263. RosettaStone - 6/12/2001 6:03:33 PM THE DIGITAL BEAT: The Instant Message Music War 264. RosettaStone - 6/12/2001 7:40:28 PM MS is Ready To Supply a Phone in Every Computer... 265. RosettaStone - 6/13/2001 9:02:35 AM "New" Shakespeare Portrait piques World Interest 266. JudithAtHome - 6/13/2001 9:10:43 AM Link failed.. 267. RosettaStone - 6/13/2001 9:17:29 AM Bad time for me to investigate. Is it because of geocities? 268. wabbit - 6/13/2001 9:26:36 AM There is a period in the link that doesn't belong...try this. 269. JudithAtHome - 6/13/2001 9:29:51 AM Looks just like the guy at Shakespeare In The Park... 270. boyblue - 6/13/2001 3:10:41 PM which is why the Boy Scouts don't want them in leadership positions in the org. "Gays" are constantly recruiting because they die off so quickly. 271. RosettaStone - 6/13/2001 4:40:45 PM More disinformation from the homosexual lobby. 272. RustlerPike - 6/14/2001 5:45:31 AM 273. RustlerPike - 6/14/2001 5:48:54 AM 274. boyblue - 6/14/2001 9:02:11 AM I'm quite aware of Baden-Powell's military career. That does not preclude his being gay. Gays have long served in the military. Even today they serve openly in the military of every member of the western alliance, the United States and Turkey being the exception, which says something about the power religious fundamentalism in this country. 275. don s. - 6/14/2001 9:03:43 AM Many a stouthearted young man has learned the ways of male love at the knees of his Filipino golf pro. 276. boyblue - 6/14/2001 9:17:16 AM Brief article on Baden-Powell's odd sexual proclivities. 277. RosettaStone - 6/14/2001 9:22:34 AM The next thing we'll see is a discredited link saying that Jesus was gay. 278. jexster - 6/14/2001 9:30:06 AM With Bush Jr. making an idiot of himself in Europe, he's giving Political Strikes a plethora of pictures with which to skewer him... And YOU get to reap the benefits! 279. jexster - 6/14/2001 9:32:27 AM 277. RosettaStone - 6/14/01 2:22:34 PM 280. RosettaStone - 6/14/2001 9:34:59 AM One small point before I link to the pictures. Bush is not a Jr. But Al Gore was. 281. RosettaStone - 6/14/2001 3:21:32 PM WHY DO ALL THESE HOMOSEXUALS KEEP SUCKING MY COCK?" 282. Uzmakk - 6/14/2001 7:48:09 PM I tell you, Rosetta, those homosexuals can start sucking your cock before you can bat an eyelash. 283. wabbit - 6/15/2001 10:32:07 AM Ducky posted this in the Inferno: now for your disturbing thought of the day: 284. rubberducky - 6/15/2001 10:45:27 AM wabbit: 285. wabbit - 6/15/2001 10:54:04 AM I think it's very mooving. I lacted it a lot. 286. iiibbb - 6/15/2001 12:54:01 PM www.memepool.com 287. RosettaStone - 6/15/2001 1:01:19 PM 288. iiibbb - 6/15/2001 1:10:30 PM I goto memepool even more than here probably. I love the concept of short articles tieing together related and unrelated sites. It's also geek heaven. 289. RosettaStone - 6/15/2001 1:32:59 PM HERE, THERE & EVERYWHERE 290. RosettaStone - 6/15/2001 2:01:12 PM NOW THAT A REPUBLICAN IS PRESIDENT, THE MEDIA TALK ABOUT THE HOMELESS AGAIN. BUT THIS TIME WITH A NEW TWIST 291. RosettaStone - 6/15/2001 2:22:06 PM WSJ OPINION JOURNAL 292. RosettaStone - 6/15/2001 3:45:36 PM ALL THINGS MUST PASS 293. iiibbb - 6/15/2001 4:11:21 PM Just hit the dialectize button upon following this link. 294. iiibbb - 6/15/2001 4:12:39 PM oh yes... if you follow the hot links from a 'translated' page, it keeps translating them. 295. Deep Thoughts - 6/15/2001 9:38:51 PM Why is this thread being RIPPED? 296. iiibbb - 6/15/2001 11:28:13 PM apparently because our host RS is being suspended for 2 weeks. 297. jexster - 6/16/2001 11:38:36 AM A parting gif for our dearly departed moderator 298. iiibbb - 6/16/2001 1:41:25 PM 299. iiibbb - 6/16/2001 1:43:17 PM CANONICAL LIST OF FULLDECKISMS 300. iiibbb - 6/16/2001 1:44:52 PM 301. iiibbb - 6/16/2001 1:46:21 PM 302. iiibbb - 6/16/2001 1:48:44 PM How to keep an idiot busy 303. iiibbb - 6/19/2001 8:52:41 AM I guess this makes this thread a proverbial phoenix. 304. iiibbb - 6/19/2001 8:53:13 AM In the good life I ask, "How do you build a charcoal fire?" Well there are many methods, but this man has got it licked. 305. iiibbb - 6/19/2001 8:55:31 AM When you were a kid, did you want to run away with the circus? To experience life on the road?... 306. iiibbb - 6/19/2001 9:03:56 AM When we think about the endangered species act... we usually think of fuzzy animals. Ugly plants can be endangered too, but it depends if you're a lumper or splitter. 307. iiibbb - 6/19/2001 9:21:15 AM Some protest while others reorganize. 308. Dusty - 6/19/2001 9:51:36 AM Ah, nothing like LOX to get the bar-b-q started. 309. iiibbb - 6/19/2001 11:05:54 AM Everyone loves potato guns. The technology is getting better and better... but will mach 1 ever be broken?... THIS link says "yes", but they must not have survived. 310. iiibbb - 6/19/2001 11:13:16 AM All ads... all the time. 311. iiibbb - 6/19/2001 6:32:07 PM Those diaper changing stations located conveniently in fast food bathrooms everywhere are really part of a sinister plot. Corporate america has been lieing to you. 312. CalGal - 6/19/2001 7:14:10 PM babysmasher.gif? 313. iiibbb - 6/19/2001 10:10:09 PM did the link not work?... works for me ok. 314. concerned - 6/19/2001 10:27:07 PM Hey, any internet gurus know of a free server which would let me download alt.binary.pictures files? My ISP doesn't support this feature, and, no, I'm not looking for 'dirty pictures'. 315. concerned - 6/19/2001 10:38:48 PM Re. 311 - 316. Erinys - 6/20/2001 4:32:29 AM iiibbb, congratulations on keeping this topic going. I had been meaning to look at it. The "how to keep an idiot busy" link crashed my browser - was it supposed to? You dog! Not sure whether I like the memepool-style posts. Sometimes the sheer number of links within a single sentence distracts from the meaning of the sentence. But, it does make for a lot of new things to explore, which is our purpose here. 317. Erinys - 6/20/2001 4:33:36 AM The first personal website I ever stumbled onto via Yahoo! when I first got an internet connection, that seemed very fresh at the time, was this. I kept up with some peoples' online journals but after a while it seemed pointless, as they disappeared randomly. 318. Erinys - 6/20/2001 4:40:14 AM I've forgotten who posted the amigoingdown site. Very funny, I travel for business quite frequently, you bastard. 319. iiibbb - 6/20/2001 9:29:26 AM I'm not opposed to individual links... I'm was just trying to spice up the nature of the posts a bit... rather than only have it be a one-link and no discussion. 320. iiibbb - 6/20/2001 9:37:48 AM For instnace the 'easter egg' in #303 is under the word "old", right after technology. 321. iiibbb - 6/20/2001 9:51:07 AM Message # 302 Message # 316 322. iiibbb - 6/20/2001 10:03:16 AM from memepool 323. iiibbb - 6/22/2001 3:34:40 PM 324. CalGal - 6/22/2001 3:58:13 PM I enjoy checking your links out. Very creative. 325. concerned - 6/22/2001 4:31:54 PM Well, I guess nobody at the Mote knew about this, but I was able to find it out elsewhere. You can access usenet alt.binary newsgroups using etin.com, which is free. Unfortunately, it won't let you upload 'binary' files at this time. 326. concerned - 6/22/2001 5:25:51 PM Correction: it's alt.binaries 327. iiibbb - 6/22/2001 6:51:13 PM I like stargazing, and the internet sure makes it easier than ever. This is my dream scope, but it turns out telescopes are a purchase not to be taken lightly (pardon the pun). Getting the wrong scope can kill what can be a fun hobby for you or a kid. 328. RosettaStone - 7/2/2001 3:36:56 PM iiibbb: Thanks for sitting in while I was unfairly punished for protesting the release of my name, address and daughter's telephone number by CharlieL. 329. Ms. No - 7/2/2001 3:54:48 PM RosettaStone, 330. RosettaStone - 7/2/2001 4:29:17 PM GOING FOR ALL THE GOLD 331. RosettaStone - 7/2/2001 11:22:11 PM I'm going to ignore your threats, Ms. No, and would ask iiibbb to delete your post. Any other discussion on your friend CharlieL and the topic that can not be discussed without punishment to the victim will be the Policy thread. 332. iiibbb - 7/2/2001 11:43:17 PM Sorry I've not been around... I've been exceedingly busy with work. No time to cruise... therefore no time to write anything interesting. 333. iiibbb - 7/2/2001 11:58:49 PM What's it take to be the greatest toy on earth? Some people only care about antiques and future value. Some people think it has to save your life. 334. RosettaStone - 7/3/2001 8:40:08 AM Some online readers prefer "print" editions that mimic the format of that day's newspaper 335. RosettaStone - 7/3/2001 9:32:51 AM THE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF ARDA 336. RosettaStone - 7/3/2001 12:43:48 PM Another FOX Exclusive 337. joezan - 7/4/2001 12:05:54 AM ...you'd think a guy running a thread on the Internet would know how to have his links open in a new window. 338. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 12:13:06 AM most do... I perhaps forgot to add target="new" on an occasional link... whatever. 339. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 12:14:09 AM the last link I neglected a new window command ... la te da 340. joezan - 7/4/2001 12:23:40 AM A bit sensitive are we, ib? 341. joezan - 7/4/2001 12:26:26 AM OOps - just checked the thread heading...I'd thought this was still Rosie's thread. 342. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 12:33:22 AM I do use the target=new command... I missed it on one link in my previous post... oh well... your comment was directed at the 'host'... I left it off one link... and basically after being implored to host this thread so it wouldn't die... the only traffic I get is rosie and an asshole comment from the peanut gallary. 343. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 12:33:33 AM from memepool 344. joezan - 7/4/2001 12:56:00 AM Again, my apologies, ib. 345. CalGal - 7/4/2001 12:57:33 AM How odd. My post was lost. I posted that I had expected a cooler car. 346. joezan - 7/4/2001 1:08:03 AM I dunno...if I'd put that much work into something like that, I'd at least make sure it had a decent paint job and some nice wheels. 347. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 1:13:34 AM It's "goth" man... 348. RosettaStone - 7/4/2001 7:29:32 AM Ah, success to some is to see every thread turn into just another chat room! 349. RosettaStone - 7/4/2001 8:22:59 AM Fortunately, he didn't want to be a Boy Scout leader 350. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/4/2001 9:55:25 AM Thanks for the kind words in the AP thread, Rosie! 351. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 9:59:38 AM Now you're insulting me Rose? Whatever. 352. Cellar Door - 7/4/2001 10:12:00 AM Nonsense! J. Edgar Hoover a homo? Next you'll be telling me that Andrew Sullivan's a homo. 353. IrvingSnodgrass - 7/4/2001 10:16:27 AM I hope we find out who's having fun with the thread title...quite inspired. I highly doubt it's iiibbb or Rosie. 354. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 10:24:52 AM No that's me... I'm being inspired by my 'mob' boss.... er pit boss... 355. Cellar Door - 7/4/2001 10:35:11 AM Here's a story to warm the cockles of Rosie's heart. 356. RosettaStone - 7/4/2001 1:46:32 PM Sounds like a very sad story, CD. Certainly nothing to joke about. 357. RosettaStone - 7/4/2001 1:47:16 PM scare=scarce 358. Cellar Door - 7/4/2001 2:01:58 PM Who's joking? 359. PelleNilsson - 7/4/2001 2:01:59 PM I think that when iiibbb changed the thread title he didn't intend that posters should take it literally. 360. RosettaStone - 7/4/2001 2:33:36 PM I think iiibbb should be suspended for two weeks for doing the Ace nasty. 361. RosettaStone - 7/4/2001 3:03:55 PM Best you delete my last post, iiibbb. I just got an email from wabbit telling me to be nice to you. 362. RosettaStone - 7/4/2001 4:50:02 PM The Best Free Entertainment in DC 363. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 4:56:08 PM The Smoking Gun brings you exclusive documents -- cool, confidential, quirky -- that can't be found elsewhere on the Web. . 364. RosettaStone - 7/4/2001 7:20:37 PM SONG & DANCE MAN III 365. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 11:46:28 PM Tonights episode of Junkyard Wars featured the so-called "World Championship". Featuring the British Champs vs. the American Champs. They built car crushing machines, and I must say it was the best epsode yet (barring the idiot American host... I swear the Brit's cast them to make them feel better about calling Americans stupid). It was exciting because both machines worked very well, and it went right to the last. 366. iiibbb - 7/5/2001 1:14:30 AM Are you gay... a bastard... or a bitch? 367. iiibbb - 7/5/2001 7:17:12 AM Everyone remembers this classic logic problem... 368. iiibbb - 7/5/2001 7:18:37 AM I'm sure 369. iiibbb - 7/5/2001 7:19:14 AM I'm sure this fact won't break anyone's heart who's familiar. 370. IrvingSnodgrass - 7/5/2001 7:23:15 AM iiibbb: 371. RosettaStone - 7/5/2001 7:40:49 AM Supposedly, it's against the rules to changes thread headlines so often, Irv. Or, that's what the moderators said when Ace was doing it daily. 372. iiibbb - 7/5/2001 8:12:46 AM Rosie... refer to the complaints link in my butterbar. 373. RosettaStone - 7/5/2001 8:16:33 AM You mean the "I love Bacon" one? 374. iiibbb - 7/5/2001 8:21:19 AM "Have a Complaint?" 375. iiibbb - 7/5/2001 8:22:34 AM Message # 370 Irv... that was up for about 30 seconds and I thought better of it... you were probably the only person who got to see it. 376. RosettaStone - 7/5/2001 8:52:58 AM Thanks alot, iiibbb. I go to that link and the windows box opens up with that damn ad trying to sell me a tiny, wireless camera. 377. iiibbb - 7/5/2001 8:59:49 AM I haven't had that X-10 problem since Message # 240... 378. RosettaStone - 7/5/2001 9:02:19 AM Good link, iiibbb. wabbit really knows her stuff. 379. transient1a - 7/5/2001 1:17:40 PM iiibbb, 380. RosettaStone - 7/5/2001 3:21:59 PM MOTE FEMALES TAKE NOTE: REP. CONDIT LOOKING FOR NEW INTERNS 381. CalGal - 7/5/2001 3:55:26 PM i3b3, 382. iiibbb - 7/7/2001 11:10:25 PM It's time for le Tour. It's featured on OLN. The US team is looking really strong this year. I think Lance is going to do it again. 383. iiibbb - 7/9/2001 12:48:33 PM Do you think we'll ever see a CalGal card?, an Ace card?... Pelle, Cellar Door... 384. iiibbb - 7/12/2001 11:58:35 PM Like this part of the so-called "family" of california highway sites. It's the old way to get around. 385. concerned - 7/13/2001 12:10:12 AM Hey. Anybody know of any free Internet thingies which will allow one to upload, as well as download usenet alt.binary graphics? 386. concerned - 7/13/2001 12:14:05 AM And since I'm asking, how about if anybody knows of free services that let you get on ftp sites that require passwords? 387. Erinys - 7/13/2001 1:14:26 AM sorry, concerned. 388. concerned - 7/13/2001 1:42:52 AM Actually, I believe it was the Moller Skycar that I referred to earlier. That prototype appears to be a two seater. 389. concerned - 7/13/2001 1:42:56 AM Actually, I believe it was the Moller Skycar that I referred to earlier. That prototype appears to be a two seater. 390. Erinys - 7/13/2001 1:56:00 AM Oh, re the Harrison Ford/helicopters? Yeah, I'd love to go for a ride in either the Moller (despite its color) or the Volante. The Omniplane looks like it'd be scary in rain. 391. iiibbb - 7/13/2001 7:33:41 AM I don't know Concerned... wish I could help w/your problem. (didn't ignore it before) 392. iiibbb - 7/13/2001 8:02:40 AM Remember when Colonel Steve Austin wrecked his lifting body and became the bionic man (psst... based on a real story?) 393. Indiana Jones - 7/15/2001 11:44:01 PM 394. Indiana Jones - 7/16/2001 12:15:37 AM The first image if you search for "Francis Urquhart": 395. iiibbb - 7/17/2001 2:42:05 PM Lots of people are looking to improve their image with PR campaigns. 396. jexster - 7/18/2001 1:07:13 AM Super Indy! 397. jexster - 7/18/2001 1:08:46 AM Now that he's lost all that weight (baby fat) Tucker Carlson is lookin mighty fine for a conservative. 398. rubberducky - 7/18/2001 9:06:04 AM here's my attempt to 'fit in' with the posting standards (a joke, iiibbb) here: 399. iiibbb - 7/18/2001 9:29:38 AM very good RD... I like your play on word 400. jexster - 7/18/2001 4:27:09 PM Going through a divorce? Got a traffic ticket beef? Ticked off over your neighbor's new fence? 401. jexster - 7/18/2001 4:43:05 PM AIDS Legal Referral Panel of the SF Bay Area 402. iiibbb - 7/19/2001 8:24:00 AM anyone with hotmail like the new format? The displayed font is microscopic in my opinion, and for some reason their own browser won't allow me to adjust the text size. 403. jexster - 7/21/2001 4:18:37 PM Matthew 16 404. jexster - 7/21/2001 4:19:22 PM toys 405. concerned - 7/23/2001 11:09:22 AM Who knows of a good free web site host. I started a site a few weeks ago on Homestead; bad move. They're talking about severely scaling back their free web site hosting services in the next few weeks, and it seems they broke some of their web site creation sw at the same time. 406. iiibbb - 7/23/2001 11:58:51 AM 407. iiibbb - 7/25/2001 9:29:15 AM Some cool Flashes 408. iiibbb - 7/25/2001 9:43:49 AM Another one: Broken Saints 409. iiibbb - 7/25/2001 9:49:38 AM And for you star wars fans. "Duality" is pretty good for some amateurs. 410. iiibbb - 7/30/2001 8:44:48 AM Why is it the dangerous toys always sound so much more fun? 411. iiibbb - 8/4/2001 10:04:45 AM from memepool 412. iiibbb - 8/4/2001 11:55:45 AM Hacking a spammer. Wouldn't we all love to do it? My question is why didn't he go further. 413. dusty - 8/4/2001 8:07:13 PM joezan 414. coquelicot - 8/5/2001 10:09:43 AM concerned - 415. rubberducky - 8/13/2001 11:26:35 AM my dog got a better 'straight acting' score than i did! 416. RustlerPike - 8/14/2001 8:52:08 PM "Interest in well framed specimens of avian dejecta is hardly confined to those of an ornithological persuasion. In recent years, the splay has gained increasing attention within the established art community. 417. RustlerPike - 8/14/2001 8:54:15 PM Yes, it's... 418. RustlerPike - 8/16/2001 9:52:59 AM This one is for Pseudoerasmus, wherever he may be: 419. RustlerPike - 8/16/2001 9:56:27 AM (I'm not sure what that 'Gatem' refers to: Gates?) 420. iiibbb - 8/16/2001 10:43:04 AM 421. iiibbb - 8/16/2001 10:46:52 AM Microsoft has announced a new method for delivering its World Wide Web Browser, Internet Explorer, to end-users. 422. Indiana Jones - 8/16/2001 10:50:37 AM Quibble with 421: Scott McNealy is with Sun; Larry Ellison is Oracle. 423. iiibbb - 8/17/2001 10:33:42 AM More ways to block internet advertising.. 424. RustlerPike - 8/18/2001 1:42:49 AM 425. RustlerPike - 8/18/2001 1:46:05 AM 426. RustlerPike - 8/18/2001 2:02:06 AM Double dog. 427. RustlerPike - 8/20/2001 2:04:08 PM 428. iiibbb - 8/20/2001 2:23:19 PM I would sleep with a catteprod if I owned that cat. 429. janjon - 8/20/2001 2:33:22 PM That cat (which must be ceramic) is the owning, not owned, type. 430. iiibbb - 8/20/2001 2:50:03 PM Speaking of pets, some people are gaga over the venerable boa constrictor. I don't know why people love them since we learn about the dangers of being eaten at a young age (nitpick here on shel silverstien... snakes eat prey head first). We even play games that make them seem otherworldly otherworldly... but the take-home message should be that they are dangerous!!! (NOTE!!! the "dangerous" link is NOT for the SQUEEMISH) 431. janjon - 8/20/2001 2:54:28 PM well, fear of a lurking boa is one reason to justify having a gun at home I suppose. 432. Absensia - 8/20/2001 3:16:13 PM No...it's one reason NOT to go home. 433. janjon - 8/20/2001 3:17:44 PM and to keep the toilet lids closed. 434. alistairconnor - 8/20/2001 3:34:01 PM Message # 423 AyeAye, the trouble with that is that I can't work out how you set proxy exceptions without setting a proxy. 435. RustlerPike - 8/22/2001 6:06:00 AM janjon, iiibbb: that cat pic is a hyperlink. The red frame is a clue. 436. iiibbb - 8/22/2001 9:21:29 AM Does that mean WofW's pictures aren't real either? 437. RustlerPike - 8/22/2001 9:44:26 AM Does that mean WofW's pictures aren't real either? 438. iiibbb - 8/22/2001 12:20:57 PM the internet is so cool. 439. janjon - 8/22/2001 12:23:19 PM alright. I'll reveal my ignorance. 440. iiibbb - 8/22/2001 12:26:32 PM hyperlink is anything you click on and it takes you somewhere else... sometimes pictures are the link, and will have a frame around them... like RP's cat pick... it's clickable. 441. janjon - 8/22/2001 12:30:00 PM And, click I did. And, lo and behold, it may not be ceramic, but 87 pounds its not either. 442. iiibbb - 8/22/2001 12:51:33 PM As the saying goes "What's the point of having a cat if you don't torment it?" 443. thoughtful - 8/22/2001 1:04:13 PM iiibbb...I agree wholeheartedly...not a day goes by that I don't bite my cat. His reaction? He purrs. 444. RustlerPike - 8/22/2001 1:21:05 PM 445. iiibbb - 8/22/2001 11:40:11 PM Get a preview of Microsofts latest OS, Windows RG(tm). 446. transient1a - 8/24/2001 10:04:11 AM iiibbb, 447. iiibbb - 8/28/2001 3:53:14 PM Do they? 448. cartmhan - 8/29/2001 12:20:56 AM I am awaiting Windows XP, though am happy that its gonna be 2 months till that happens. So, I downloaded and installed Internet Explorer 6 Final. Its nearly a copycat of Netscape, in terms of new features. However, it does come with a neat cookie management option: You can add, delete cookies, or even block them all. Warning: If you do block cookies and such, you wont be able to log in The Mote. I tried last night logging in and failed. So..I gave up and let the browser accept all cookies. Now I need a drink.....lol. 449. RustlerPike - 8/29/2001 7:57:57 AM THE CODEX IDIOTICA 450. rubberducky - 8/29/2001 8:41:48 AM um, IE has allowed you to block cookies for several years now. 451. ronski - 8/29/2001 12:14:16 PM Lottery numbers not working out? 452. cartmhan - 8/31/2001 12:50:02 AM Rubberducky, the cookies that IE allows to block in IE6 are cookies that are found to be an invasion of privacy, such as third party cookies that transmit info to other companies about your surfing habits and such. 453. RustlerPike - 9/2/2001 3:19:08 PM "By far the most difficult part of attempting any insect recipe is acquiring the necessary ingredients." 454. RustlerPike - 9/3/2001 6:18:47 AM Han Hoogerbrugge, Flash Master. 455. RustlerPike - 9/6/2001 12:25:43 PM 456. RustlerPike - 9/6/2001 12:29:39 PM 457. concerned - 9/6/2001 1:04:44 PM Hey, anybody know where I can grab some cool looking neon and metallic background effects for web pages? 458. pellenilsson - 9/6/2001 1:46:05 PM Here is a better pic of Slackjaw. 459. judithathome - 9/21/2001 10:06:21 AM I am posting here for HELP!! 460. iiibbb - 10/3/2001 6:31:10 PM I need a diversion... so here is another infrequent post. 461. iiibbb - 10/8/2001 11:18:10 PM Check out this web page. 462. rubberducky - 10/10/2001 11:19:28 AM Salon doing better than expected: 463. Absensia - 10/10/2001 4:02:25 PM Tired of terrorist talk? Want to do something? Then, take your best shot 464. judithathome - 10/13/2001 11:35:40 AM This is a wonderful site to bookmark and check out daily: 465. joezan - 10/14/2001 10:14:18 PM Something to pass the time in between posts 466. Absensia - 10/14/2001 10:43:08 PM Joe, that's disgusting. I couldn't help but do it. Hahahaha. But I still like flinging cows better. 467. arkymalarky - 10/14/2001 10:52:59 PM I couldn't get my cows to fling right. 468. Absensia - 10/14/2001 11:01:36 PM Click on the wood flinger. The cow goes to it. Then, click on the wood flinger again and there goes the cow. The longer you hold the cursor down before you fling, the farther the cow goes. 469. arkymalarky - 10/14/2001 11:11:11 PM Oh, the cursor was where I had my problem. My cow just dumped in front of the catapult. 470. Absensia - 10/14/2001 11:13:56 PM yep, you have to play with it. if you click too soon, it does fall right in front, and if you wait too long to click, it flies far away. So, you need to do it just riiiiiiiiight. And sometimes I do. 471. joezan - 10/14/2001 11:22:32 PM That cow flinging game is rigged. 472. Absensia - 10/14/2001 11:23:48 PM Nope, just takes skill and daring. 473. joezan - 10/28/2001 11:25:44 PM I've always kind of been a fan of The Onion - to me, it's like the Saturday Night Live of the Internet. 474. cmboyce - 11/5/2001 1:17:33 PM I think that's Al Gore's nose, isn't it? Fun to pick, anyway. And it's so thoughtful of them to say "stop" every so often, so that eventually I did. 475. rubberducky - 11/7/2001 11:07:21 AM 476. Absensia - 11/28/2001 2:46:44 AM 477. rubberducky - 11/30/2001 1:39:04 PM 'evil kitty' got big laffs i see... 478. transient1a - 12/6/2001 9:23:28 AM When mathematical physicists joke: 479. iiibbb - 12/6/2001 10:13:39 AM from memepool 480. transient1a - 12/11/2001 2:09:39 PM WATER 481. iiibbb - 12/11/2001 8:01:42 PM Actually ... earth is mostly composed of silicate minerals with octahedral and tetrahedral crystaline structures... 482. rubberducky - 12/12/2001 9:31:31 AM 483. iiibbb - 12/19/2001 6:13:27 PM No soup for you! 484. Property of Jesus - 12/19/2001 9:34:33 PM Why is this thread being mothballed? Not enough traffic? Ha. If you had done/did what I suggested a year ago, this place would be jumping... 485. arkymalarky - 12/19/2001 11:33:19 PM That's a Randy Newman song? No wonder it's one of my very alltime favorite TDN songs. 486. iiibbb - 12/19/2001 11:57:50 PM This thread didn't exist a year ago... what are you talking about? 487. transient1a - 12/23/2001 11:47:10 PM Artificial Intelligence as in: 488. transient1a - 12/25/2001 5:23:29 PM AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!! The Mote | Mote Archive
Should I take the hint?
Just my eight agorot.
I'm flattered that those profs are looking at my graphics. Thanks! Or should I say tanks?
The totally best webwatcher link page that I know is Lindsay Marshall's 'Bifurcated Rivets', which I stumbled upon one day doing a web search of 'bifurcated' after Pe used the word in a post and I didn't have a dictionary. I've turned it into my homepage, actually, it's so good.
Being a current Republican, I had to tell the truth.
And speaking of "telling the truth" by amplification . . .
Today is my wife's B'day, so my clandestine cyber-interlude has to end.
Bon Dia!
Wiz, that is not the attitude to adopt if you are to get ahead in life.
Btw, I only now know you and Dente are one and the same. I had not made the connection somehow.
These are not free but they seem to be pretty good. It's the kind of site I would definitely expect some of our more respectable, steady-job members to bookmark.
I have the feeling that is WoW's real name so you shouldn't mention it here. I know he's not trying to keep it secret but real names are a sensitive issue for some people here (cf recent razzmatazz in Suggestions).
OK Pelle but it was on the url he linked to so I figured there was no problem. I mean, it formed part of the actual http://www etc. web address.
The fact that you don't see the difference between what RP might have just done, and CharlieL's repeated publishing my name, home address, and daughter's telephone number in a political-threatening manner amazes me, Pelle.
You can't be that dense, or can you?
Vivendi Universal owns Universal Music Groups and Universal Studios, a 51 percent stake in European pay-TV provider Canal, and other holdings. The company said its acquisition of MP3.com will let it reach more than 40 million more registered users on the Internet.
Oh well, NYC is a big place indeed.
You didn't do anything wrong in my view. But there are lawyers' minds around here which could construe it differently.
There are lawyerly minds around here that threatened to sue me some years back, before the Scandie invasion of the Mote. I'm still waiting for that lawsuit.
Barbershop signs from West Africa.
This one sold for $130 - probably more than what the guy who drew it makes in three or four months.
But, first, links to two of the Broadway shows we went to last week in NYC.
Les Miz
Kiss Me Kate
Nearly a Year after Promises, Instant Messaging Services Still Lack Standards, Fox News Reports
Folder This week Last week Arts 131 164 Books 1,691 1,855 Business & Work Life 114 227 Education 177 360 Health 317 412 Home & Away 925 821 House & Garden 862 898 Imagination 5,764 5,185 International 910 1,068 Mind & Spirit 1,118 1,600 Mothers Who Think 5,832 5,793 Movies 1,575 1,563 Music 1,061 1,197 News 507 536
Politics 8,160 4,317 Private Life 14,809 12,275 Salon Central 479 236 Science & Nature 135 207 Social Issues 2,160 2,292 Sports 631 485 Technology 335 234 TV 6,510 6,656 White House 8,147 8,484 Writing 171 316 Total 62,251 57,181
Currently, about half dozen threads devoted to the show, and last week about 2,600 posts (almost 40 percent of the folder's entire traffic).
This sorta information isn't published there.
I can't understand the attraction to Buffy, myself.
She's even spawned a second series here about her ex-boyfriend (though I've seen maybe 20 minutes total of Buffy myself).
(Washington Post) In a dramatic rescue near the summit of Mount Everest, an American-led team of climbers last week brought down five other dazed and near-dead mountaineers stranded overnight without oxygen or shelter. One of the five, a Russian man, later died, bringing to four the number of climbers who have perished this season trying to scale the world's tallest mountain.
The American expedition that helped the climbers had been on Everest since late March looking for remains of the George Mallory 1924 trek. They discovered its long-sought last camp site at more than 26,000 feet. On a small notch on the North Ridge, they found several tent poles and some shredded tent fabric. Their digging uncovered part of a headlamp, a tin of tea, still identifiable by its smell, and a wool sock with the name of one of the expedition members.
The American team led by Eric Simonson had been looking of additional evidence from Mallory's fatal expedition, and in particular was searching for a missing camera carried by the British adventurer's partner, Andrew Irvine.
Members of the team found Mallory's frozen body near the summit in 1999 and some oxygen canisters from that era even closer to the top. Mountaineers have speculated that Mallory and Irvine actually reached the summit, and the team was searching for film that might show the men at the peak. Without that evidence, New Zealander Sir Edmund Hillary and Nepalese Sherpa Tenzing Norgay are credited with being the first to reach Everest's peak, in 1953.
Dispatches can be found at mountainguides.com
AOL/TIMES WARNER TRANSFORMING ITSELF IN EXPANSION BID ABROAD
Illustrious Potentate 2001
Thanks for the excerpt. I've climbed with Eric Simonson on Rainier, Denali, Paldor (Nepal) and Shishapangma(Tibet). I've climbed with Phil Ershler (prominently mentioned in the link) in Mexico.
But we do do the Billy Goat Trial off the C&O Canal below Great Falls, Potomac, about once a month and we plan to do cliff walking on the western side of Ireland in August.
One of the few internet explorers who's making money from the www is Rush Limbaugh. Two reasons: He waited until this year to start it (learning from the mistakes of the first wavers; He promotes it everyday on his show--650 radio stations; 20 million audience.
Plus, for those who listen on the net, Rush, wearing his Murray-the-K DJ hat, does an extra half-hour preshow which is pretty cool.
Everyone can get it using the listen to Rush link at the top right corner on his front page here.
It starts at 11:30am EST and, it turns out that Rush is a big Motown fan--and most of his favorite music comes from the 1960s, early '70s.
"People Get Ready, there is a train a-coming," sings Curtis Mayfield.
h2g2 the Earth Edition of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
I've just started poking around, but it looks intriguing.
try The Enneagram
JENNA AND TONIC
By far, in my humble opinion, WP's Howard Kurtz's "Online Extras/Media Notes" is the best on the web.
The man writes and writes and writes and writes and writes--and it's all interesting.
This is one of the best examples of how important the internet has already become. Today's column, not published in the hard copy of the Post because of its length, is entitled: "In Austin, Bush Daughers Grab the Headlines."
Should this be a big story? Shouldn't presidential kids be cut plenty of slack? How many zillions of underage college students have a few beers? The natural media instinct, as when Jenna Bush was cited for alcohol possession the first time, is to play it down out of concern for the family's privacy
(the type of legs you don't have to shave)
PAMELA ANDERSON SETTLES SEX TAPE CASE WITH INTERNET ENTERTAINMENT
Pamela Anderson has settled a multimillion court claim over a sex tape she made with an '80 rocker. The porn company, Internet Entertainment Group, has agreed to pay the actress and Bret Michaels, lead singer of the band Poison, a seven-figure sum and to destroy all copies it acquired of a homemade sex video featuring the couple.
The Seattle-based company previouly settled out of court with Anderson over a similar video it distributed showing her having sex with Tommy Lee, the Motley Crue drummer to whom she was married when the video was shot.
Unlike the earlier case however, the Michaels-Anderson tape was never widely distributed because lawyers for the pair secured a court order blocking the release. Fans of Pam learned the disappointing news from Anderson's lawyer David Weeks, who says: "You're not going to see this tape distributed now, and you're probably not going to find copies of it already out there."
Both Anderson, 33, and Michaels, 38, filed $90 million lawsuits against the internet company in 1998, claiming the sale of the video violated their privacy. It is unclear how the company acquired the tape.
--source
(Washington Post, front page) headline: China Plans War Games Off Taiwan
Beijing, May31--Thousands of Chinese soldiers are massing opposite Taiwan for their biggest military exercise in several years, coordinated with amphibious tanks, figher aircraft, submarines and missile batteries, an official Chinese Web site reported.
The report by Beijing News.com, a site run by leading state-owned newspapers in the Chinese capital, said the main goals of the exercises are to practice "attacking and occupying an outlying Taiwanese island and fighting off an aircraft carrier."
The mention of an aircraft carreir was seen as a reference to the U.S. Navy; Taiwan has no carriers.
Try:
ram3@georgetown.edu
or
Iona651@cs.com
or
harris10528@msn.com
Anyway, I got your note and will give you all the support you need to fight the California energy-consumming menace. Especially since you're from Texas.
All power to the collective!!
THIS EYE-POPPING graphic novel delves into the troubled minds of four characters inexplicably linked by similar haunting visions. Each biweekly episode innovatively weds high technology to a bumpin' soundtrack. Broken Saints could stand to refine its sketchy artwork but makes up for it with mesmerizing Flash sequences and frequent updates.
--Entertainment Weekly, June 8
Reo. Pete Stark (D-CA) insults Rep. J.C. Watts (R-OK)
JC Watts - Steppin Fetchit lawn jockey who manages to charm Okie rednecks by being a good nigger
Howzat?
Telecom Failures Hit Customers
First, his high-speed Internet service provider went bankrupt and disappeared. Then, his cut-rate, long-distance company went bust and vanished as well, taking with it his calling card and his 800 number
The English National Opera's modern day version of Don Giovanni was met with boos after audiences where shocked by the portrayal of the lead character snorting cocaine.
The list of two-newspaper towns is painfully hort. The local paper is apt to be a partnership with a TV station--especially if the same company owns them both. The wild card is the internet.
Just picked up this - the REAL story behind The Drunk Porker Bust....
Bar That Busted Jenna Celebrates Watergate Scandal
News/Current Events Front Page News
Source: NewsMax.com
Published: 6/02/01 Author: Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 06/02/2001 17:54:36 PDT by kattracks
Austin, Texas nightspot Chuy's Restaurant, which called 911 when first daughter Jenna Bush tried to order a Margarita with fake ID last Tuesday, celebrates the anniversary of Richard Nixon's 1974 resignation -- the darkest day in the history of the modern GOP.
Jenna's grandfather, former President Bush, was chairman of the Republican National Committee at the time Watergate ended Nixon's political career.
Chuy's web site offers a calendar of restaurant events, most of which seem perfectly innocuous, such as: "Memorial Day: Enjoy your day off at Chuy's," "National Taco Day: Come support the cause..." and "Father's Day: Dads love Chuy's..."
Then there's August 9, not exactly a national holiday elsewheres, but celebrated along with July Fourth and Halloween at Chuy's.
"Nixon resigned in 1974," reads the restaurant's holiday schedule. "Don't be a crook -- Break into a Burrito instead of the Watergate."
Damn, if it isn't that fuckin Liburul Cunspirucy agin!
I still plan to go back through the retired thread and all the rules there if I can get someone around here interested enough to play, maybe even my parents. They used to like to play Canasta a lot.
At least I finally understand what Schrodinger's cat is. I had heard about it but no one really explained how simple - and funny - the idea was.
Tired of Word? Try Word Perhect (yes, Perhect). It's fucking great.
KING LEAR
Tickets are "free," but you have to get them the day before at the Washington Post. Our family does volunteer work for the threatre from Wednesday through Saturday, and if any one wants up to four tickets, contact me.
New York Times editor Bill Goodstein interview with historian/biographer David McCullough
here
According to a Gartner Group study, 15 billion instant messages were sent in January alone--12 billion of which went to PCs, PDAs, and yes, cell phones (the remaining 3 billion were exchanged on text pages). Now VoiceStream cell phone users can join the swelling ranks, thanks to a deal between Jamie Lee Curtis's service of choice and AOL Time Warner.
The deal will also bring mobile chatters content from such AOL TW properties as CNN and MovieFone.
--Yahoo Internet Life, May 2001
Online: Death by a thousand Jabberers
NoteTab
I've converted several people to this Notepad replacement and I highly recommend it. NoteTab Light is what I use, since I don't care about the spell-check.
IrfanView
This is a great image viewer, small and fast, supports a wide variety of different image formats (and sound too!). Irfan (the guy's first name, not a Bosnian word for squashed cat, although the program icon looks like one - or maybe it a small devil...) updates the program regularly and it is by far my favorite image viewer.
WinPatrol
Want to keep some cookies and delete others? Want to prevent some cookies from being placed on your computer to begin with? Check out this freebie.
Most of my program posts will be for Windows, but as a new iMac owner, I'll probably get around to posting some Mac stuff too, as I find it. Meanwhile, I would love to have any Mac links that anyone deems useful (hint for the adorable machead known as don s).
Today we take a detour to examine the recent acceleration of a trend in online ads: little commercials that "pop up" not in a little box in front of whatever Web page you're looking at, but in a window behind your browser.
EMI is to allow the downloading of its catalogue onto CDs in the first move by a large music group to legitimise the so-called "burning" of copyrighted tracks from the internet.
to Your PC
Bose has long been known for getting big sound out of small packages, including clock radios.
It's new Wave/PC connects directly to your computer, so you can wake up to the vibes of your favorite CDs, MP3 files and Web-Radio stations. It also has a lot of clever tie-ins to your PC; for instance, it can download a list of your local stations from the Net and adjust your computer's sound card to match the radio's speakers.
The Wave/PC ($449) is a particularly smart accessory for a laptop: it turns its tinny output to almost home-stereo quality. Go ahead, crank up the volume. Your neighbors will distort before the speakers do.
--Newsweek, Cyberscope, May 21
Around 196 B.C., a council of ancient Egyptian priests inscribed a decree on a granite slab affirming the rule of 13-year-old Ptolemy V and providing three translations, including one in a form of ancient Greek. After Napoleon's troops in Egypt recovered the slab, the Rosetta Stone, in 1799, linguists used the Greek to unlock the Egyptian hieroglyphics, whose meaning had been lost of centuries.
Now, a small San Francisco foundation founded by Stewart Brand (Whole Earth Catalog) is leading an effort to create a modern Rosetta Stone...
1000 Languages will be etched inside three-inch circle; First Up--Nigeria's Degema
...X10's explanation of the ads, and another to a page which will disable the ads. (The unfortunate thing is that that last link only disables them for 30 days, but in looking at the URL, there's an argument that sets the 30-day variable; if that's right, then this link should disable them for a year, and this one should disable them for 10 years.)
ABC/Disney's Partnership with pc-Religious Website Troubling to Some
How small can an MP3 player get? At the moment. about the size of a Zippo lighter--but at a fraction of the weight. The Jumper II from CMC comes with 32MB of built-in flash memory, a USB cable for downloading tunes from your PC, headphones and a multimedia-card slot that expands its capacity to up to 128MB (enough memory for about four hours of music). The sound is surprisingly good for the price: $99.
It's available only on the Web at mp3shopping.com; follow the directions carefully--so far there's no tech support available.
Site contains the largest and most comprehensive cartographic collection in the world with collections numbering over 4.5 million maps, including 60,000 atlases, 600 reference works, numbers globes and plastic relief models.
Bob Dylan
Inbox
AOL TW says its greatest fear is "an all-MS future."
FROM THE START, A MOST UNUSUAL CASE INVOLVING BUSH TWINS
The manager of the restuarant, Mia Lawrence, said: "I want them to get into big trouble."
ORBITZ'S RUDE AWAKENING
A First-Week Report on the Airlines' New Web Site
DeadHead
you really are weird, you know.
An Israeli-Arab journalist describes escape from Bethlehem after being held hostage for 60 days by Palestinians. But, is it propaganda?
Online News from Israel
Salon is now UP FOR SALE and meeting little interest from buyers, UK newspaper reports
What NetSlaves has discussed in its previous look at Salon is that the company is, despite a 15% paycut and reducing their staff to 85 people in their NY, DC and SF offices, is not only demmoraging money, but the rate of loss of over a $1 million a month has increased.
My child is gay! Now what do I do?
PFLAG
Support groups
Don S.
There ar ten thousand ways to effectively insult/cause pain to Rosie, and you choose his children?
I really don't know. Far be it from me to be insult cop or anything, but... I know what you're saying can't actually hurt him or his child. But it's so... low. Mother jokes are one thing. Jokes at a kid's expense? I don't know.
It's not like there aren't other ways to make fun of him.
Can you imagine being Rosie's gay son? What that kid must be going through breaks my heart.
Rosie would be completely within his rights to yank your post outta here... not because it attacked his kid but because it's off-topic and an obvious attempt at starting a round of sneaker pissing here in this thread.
What a wanker.
THE SPACE BETWEEN...
A father of one of my son's girlfriends just offered me two free $50 tickets to Dave Mathews Band concert tonight at RFK if I help chaperone the 12 kids who are going as a block. All I have to do is buy him a concert sweatshirt.
Since my son is leaving for the Philippines tomorrow night, I'm up for the experience.
I DID IT!
Guess the dot com is now an anchor, not a rocket.
Ever since Napster lost its bad-boy luster, the other digital music It-wares, Aimster has been rightfully sucking up the glare...
Microsoft's new Windows XP operating syterm for PCs goes further than ever before in commandeering the capabilities of the most widely used desktop tool in America: the telephone.
A flurry of international interest greeted the unveiling of what may be the only portrait of William Shakespeare painted from life, revealed last week in The Globe and Mail.
Link data I have (worked last night) is:
http://www.geocities.com/tranquileye/shakespeare/
Great picture of Billy. It's from Saturday's Globe and Mail (Canada) Author is Stephanie Nolen. Title: Portrait Piques World Interest.
That's an odd observation, since most of the founders of the Boy Scouts were gay. Then the Scouts become "morally straight" and sexually impotent I guess. But then that couldn't be because they're still breeding like flies and birthing a new gay kid at least every second I suppose.
The man who started the Scouting movement, Robert Baden-Powell spent much of his life serving in the British cavalry. He received his early military training in India, then served in South Africa during the Boer War.
He observed that fact that the young English soldiers, many of them urban/city dwellers, didn't know how to survive in the wild.
Baden-Powell came home to England as the best-known hero of the Boer War and decided to use his fame to help British boys become better men.
Unfortunately, unlike the Americans who started their program in the U.S. in 1909, most of those Baden-Powell trained were killed off during World War I. That's why the BSA are the leaders of the world-wide movement today.
Parents don't want their boys camping overnights with homosexuals "advocates." It's really not that hard to understand why.
BSA website
The fact that Baden-Powell had military career simply indicates where his head was at. There is little dispute over his being gay by the way. You probably reject the notion that Michelangelo and Liberace were gay as well I daresay.
Sure, a lot of British men are bi-sexual. That's because the British birds are so asexual.
Political Strikes!
The next thing we'll see is a discredited link saying that Jesus was gay.
No Rose you won't...the Bible says it nicely dontcha think!
John.13
[23] One of his disciples, whom Jesus loved, was lying close to the breast of Jesus;
John.19
[26] When Jesus saw his mother, and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son!"
John.20
[2] So she ran, and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and said to them, "They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him."
John.21
[7] That disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, "It is the Lord!" When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put on his clothes, for he was stripped for work, and sprang into the sea.
[20] Peter turned and saw following them the disciple whom Jesus loved, who had lain close to his breast at the supper and had said, "Lord, who is it that is going to betray you?"
Somehow that small point was always ignored by the media during the 2000 election. That's the one the Republicans won.
Look, I'm not a hateful person or anything--I believe we should all live and let live. But lately, I've been having a real problem with these homosexuals.
9420. rubberducky - 6/15/01 10:17:02 AM
i'm a cow
does that mean you liked it?
Sorry about that
The Boomers, mired as usual in soppy nostalgia, love the Beatles for the wrong reasons. Today, a smarter audience hears them in a new way.
THEY'RE AS CONSISTENT AS THE NIGHT FOLLOWING THE DAY...
Dot.com Bust Creating More Homeless
Best of the Web Today
Warning: This site is not for the faint of bandwidth or resolution.
at least a few minutes
As the new host, I wish to propose/promote a different sort of posting style inspired by another website.
This style employs short 'articles' consisting of memes combined in such a way that they bring related (or unrelated) websites together into one place and build a story that sort-of ties them together.
The idea is you draw inspiration from current events (reputible or irreputible), education, technology (new and old), humor, and politics and build them up or embellish them to make their sum greater than the parts... the opportunities are almost endless.
Single links are also allowed... more or less anything goes... but try to at least embelish them a bit. As I said, go to memepool to see what I have in mind. I will try to post some examples of my own in the near future.
Oh yes, this type of posting can get very confusing, so preview before you post to make sure you've not left any html code out.
Also, I will adhere to the ROE guidelines (i.e. no commercial sites) but I don't plan to act as a hall monitor and investigate every submission... However, if I discover (or I am alerted to) a violation, the offending post will be deleted, although context may ultimately dictate what is done.
Enjoy (I hope)
Maybe you were just a freak... or just married to one?
Did you have the right stuff to work as a carnie?
Take the Virginia roundleaf birch; it's the only tree ever listed as endangered, but is it really any different than black birch? Well, either lumping or splitting they may take it off the list.
Some imagine a reactor, although I don't think they mean build your own.
Chin up; things are looking bright... even for places like California , because new technology, like the pellet bed reactor may wind up being where it's at as far as saving the environment goes.
Yeah, these plans to move unsanitary airline drop toilets into the home and to raise hordes of disease carrying mosquitoes on so-called 'reclaimed wetlands' certainly looks like a major conspiracy of misanthropic tree huggers to eliminate humans.
I'm joking! Get off me, liberal pests!
In the spirit of the first part of this topic, wherein I enjoyed reading others' online pasttimes-
Every day: google (my homepage), netscape, m-w.com, tabletalk, and lately, here
Several times per week: online banking, local library to request books/films, various webcast radio stations with TripleJ currently the favorite, recipe searches at epicurious.com
Several times per month: napster (need something else! desperately!), schwab, cnet, various gardening boards, various shopping sites to see if the stuff on my wishlist is on sale (mall-loather)
Randomly: joke site links friends send via email if they load within 30 seconds, hotbot advanced search when google fails me, C*E*A and the onion when I need a quick lift, many places I always forget to bookmark and have to google for later.
So many links, so little time.
Ones I really liked that are gone: a site by a guy named josh that had 'eyecandy'. And word.com, and crispzine.com.
Surprised that gurl.com and their paperdoll psychology is still around. Now I've gone and gotten all nostalgic, and visited superbad.
However, think of the memepool style as an easter egg hunt. Some of the links might be rather plain, but it's fun to hid a nugget of humor or a real geewhizzer somewhere in there.
306 is mostly content.
307 is a mix of content and humor.
Others are short, virtually one-link sentences.
So I'm definitely not trying to limit things to 'memepool' style. I want the thread to live... so do as you wish.
Erinys: "How to keep an idiot" busy should not crash your browser... it should crash your brain.
Think different...but not too different.
I still dream of a good scope, but take this advice (and this advice is many places)... a good pair of binoculars and a tripod can be a very satisfying to paroose the stars. If you pick one with an exit pupil between 5mm and 7mm (your maximum pupil dilation at night).
Enjoy.
PATRIOTIC GORE
Vidal goes on the attack against Lincoln, FDR and lots of other notables--but not Edmund Wilson
If you continue in the manner in which you've begun you can expect to be restricted again. Persist in making reference to the events that occurred at Table Talk and you'll be cooling your heels for another two weeks.
Having dodged the breakup bullet, Microsoft tackles AOL Time Warner
CLINTON ON ARAFAT: The Blame Game
Nearly a year after he failed to achieve a Mideast peace deal, former president Bill Clinton is directing his ire at one man: Yasir Arafat. He told guests at a Manhattan party last week that Arafat called to bid him farewell three days before he left office. "You are a great man," Arafat said. "The hell I am," Clinton said he responded. "I'm a colossal failure, and you made me one."
Do they have to be technological to be cool? It helps. But ultimately it's the simple ones that are truely great. I think that's why none of my toys really survived to adulthood.
...unless you have more adult interests.
... or you're a geek and don't know what that site even means.
Brave Old World
An interactive guide to the works of J.R.R. Tolkien
What a redhead!
Anyway...
I received these in an email:
you'd think someone who spends enough time here could just right click and open as new window if they care so much.
I was talking about Rosie.
But on the off-chance you were defending him (I mean, who defends Rosie?), I beseech you to check in the butter bar where he actually linked in the Mote's html hints, which tell you to use the target=new command.
And as for laziness - that's not the point.
It's common courtesy.
And it should be practiced even more diligently when posting a message with EIGHT friggin' links, as you did earlier, wise guy.
La te da.
Sorry , ib.
But you really should use the target=new command.
Sensitive perhaps... but you aren't hosting anything.
This woman has one bad-ass ride. I wonder if it's a lowrider too.
And I do appreciate your hosting.
...I would prefer a good autocrossing car myself.
Actually, joezan, iiibbb is just the front man. Like a mob boss, I'm still the host of this thread. And I appreciate that he's willing to take the abuse usually leveled at me. Now, go outside and take some more pictures of chairs through glass display windows and publish them in the MUSIC thread. Because, it's ART!!!
WOW!!!
It's the go anywhere, anytime hot tub
Was the "J.Edgar Hoover was a homo" smear a KGB disinformation plot?
Perhaps content isn't how to draw people in here... I need a sensationalist title.
Web Sales of Airline Tickets Are Making Hefty Advances
The bargains available to shoppers on the internet are becoming scare in all but one place: the sky.
The Smithsonian's 35th annual Folklife Festival continues on the Mall between 7th and 14th streets.
...for example stuff about both the the Bush girls, and the woman that turned them in.
The Art of Bob Dylan
spoiler
Find out these and other things about your personality at The Spark.
...but could you save yourself from canibals, or cross a bridge when you came to it?
I enjoy those tests at the Spark... anyone who wants to see how I rate can add me to their list at the end of the test. I think I'm listed there as "just_call_me_irv".
I see you're still having fun with the thread title. My favorite was the one yesterday about Rose's head.
But, as you know, mote laws are written in sand and change regularly, especially when the insults are aimed at one person in particular.
BETTER THAN AMAZON???
A Book Collector's Paradise
And it's almost impossible to get rid of it.
Press the button as many times as you need to on the complaints page... we really care about you as a customer.
Message # 302 "How to keep an idiot busy…."
When you hit "Press" the response is:
"You win!"
I found, more by luck than anything else, in about 10 sec of being on the site a trick which enables you to win easily -- I do not know whether this is a cheat or not.
When the monkey came up, I discovered the same cheat worked for hitting the monkey. And no, I did not win any money as hitting the monkey led to a casino site.
And, yes, I, as any other idiot, I wasted time escaping from the Casino site.
Another Drudge Exclusive
Ha! That complaint thing is funny.
Or even...
...a Rosetta card?
Because you too can become one!
Other people are embracing the future of personal aircraft. In the future 3-D highways will be the way to get around. While I may feel queezy jumping into this little number or I'm skeptical of the feasibility of one of these...
I would love to get behind the stick of a homebuilt. You can build one for under $8000.
Some accounts seem to indicate that in order to fly with the best... you must fly alone.
...or maybe don't fly at all.
iiibbb, I find that last link hard to believe: the guy living in CdeGaulle airport for 10 years. But it was interesting to read.
Some of those personal aircraft pictures are a scream. I like the Jetson's thing best.
Still cool.
Still cool.
Lifting body aircraft have shown promise for quite some time. I've even seen one at the best museum I've ever been to (Where you can also touch Boxcar)..
You may not know it, but this is also a lifting body aircraft.
Anyway... lifting body aircraft have the potential to be big, and therefore valuable for shipping freight or lots of people.
Google now does images.
Click above and type in "Yamila Diaz."
And one pic called AceofSpades:
Now just don't turn your poisoned mousie on me puhleeze!
He's even pitching Salon
Why join Premium?
Tucker Carlson's five reasons for joining Salon Premium.
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By Tucker Carlson
July 17, 2001 | You ought to subscribe to Salon Premium because:
1) Independent journalism is worth supporting
2) In this case, that support is only 8 cents a day.
3) Which is less than it costs to feed a starving child.
4) No more pop-up ads.
5) The nudity.
while i've seen people on TV be asked for their sign, i don't think they meant to get into OS wars or comedy.
(although I just think it's a cool style... not a standard... people can post how they want)
Help is just a click away. The California courts yesterday unveiled the state's most comprehensive legal self-help center to guide people through the often mind-boggling court system.
The center, which is on the courts' Web site, is intended to help people who can't afford a lawyer, can't find one or just need some information about the law.
You can download court forms, find out where the local courthouse is, and get tips on how to find an attorney.
And if you're not sure whether you have a case, there's a section called "You Don't Have to Sue."
Chief Justice Ronald George said the Web site was not intended to offer free legal advice or encourage people to represent themselves in court. But court officials recognize that many people are forced by economics to handle their own case, unwilling to go into debt to hire a lawyer.
California Courts Self-Help Center
Everyone should write in and complain. I wrote in and told them you can't adjust the font to a legible size and "Robert" wrote this...
Hello iiibbb,
Thank you for writing MSN Hotmail.
This is Robert and I am writing in response to your inquiry. As part of our commitment to being the best in the world, we regularly add new features and other improvements. Before going live with such changes, we thoroughly test them
to ensure a smooth transition. However, there are times when no test reveals a problem that may appear when the changes are finally implemented. If such a condition cannot be quickly resolved, we retract the changes until later. This way, we can address the issues without impacting our excellent service to you, our customer.
Remember that MSN Hotmail also has comprehensive online help available--just click "Help" in the upper right corner.
I hope that this e-mail has provided you with the assistance you needed. Please disregard this response if your issue has already been resolved. Thank you for your patience.
Sincerely,
Robert C.
Helpful huh? Did they even read my message?
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And the Pharisees and Sad'ducees came, and to test him they asked him to show them a sign from heaven.
2
He answered them, "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather; for the sky is red.'
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And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times.
Returning from the gym, waiting for the bus -Potrero & Division, DotCommieLand SFCA - I looked down and there on the sidewalk, the signs of the times.
Three copies of a book on Macromedia “Director” and one on Java programming plus an anthology of a French structural anthropologist lay there amid other waste already picked over by the homeless.
Even the bums didn’t want those books.
Most men know that no matter how hard we work on gender inequality, there are certain things that women won't be using ... or will they? Although there have been some special designs that get at the problem, all you ladies really need is a special tool... and if you feel squeamish about reuse, a disposable version is also available. Or forget the tools entirely.
...you'd think a guy running a thread on the Internet would know how to have his links open in a new window.
I used to add the "target="new" " regularly; then I realized there was no reason I should type in a dozen characters on every link, when someone could right-click instead of left-clicking. Pareto optimal. Don't get that very often.
Depending on what sort of webpage you'd like to have -the .nu sites (e.g. virtue.nu, envy.nu) offer free hosting for regular ole pages, but if you just want a reasonably simple, functional page that you can update easily, blogger.com offers free hosting at blogspot.com (they also allow have a userfriendly guide for using other free hosts alongside their webware).
here's mine:
Your score is 84
LEVEL 5 -- SOMEWHAT FEMININE
Your Mom already knows. Smart girls in the office already know that you like to sleep with men. Your straight acting traits are few and far between as your feminine traits start to surface. You tend to be a real sensitive guy that gets along great with the female posse at work.
and here's the dog's
Your dog's score is 30
LEVEL 3-- THE VERY STRAIGHT ACTING DOG
Still rough around the edges, this is the perfect straight acting guys mate. Whether at the lumber shop, hunting, fishing or begging for table scraps, your dog will stand his ground and stand by his man. Car manufacturers are meeting today to discuss naming a new line of heavy trucks after your dog. Dogs that fit into this category are Dobermans, German Shepherd's and Huskies.
of course, the test has some flaws as i usually have to tell people i am gay. eh, oh well.
There are over 8,350 species of flying birds and for each of them there are something like 600 possible dietary combinations. Even when ignoring factors such as seasonal fluctuations, new synthetic foods or insecticides (all of which cause excremental variations) a total of 5,000,000 quite distinct types of birdsplay may now be collected on windscreens around the world at any one time".
BIRD SHIT ART!
"B I B L I O T H E C A
A U G U S T A N A
collectio textuum
electronicorum
AppleMac et Netscape his paginis
optimum visum dant.
cave Gatem et Exploratorem!"
We're really very excited by this," said Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. "Since we first heard about this whole Internet thing we've been working really hard to make sure that we control how you see it. We've tried everything. You can't install a single Microsoft application without IE coming along for the ride. It even comes with the mouse!"
"But today we're pleased to announce that starting immediately IE will also be delivered anally," said Steve Ballmer in today's press conference. "I mean let's face it. We've tried everything else and we've got to make sure everyone has Internet Explorer. Bill said so. So we've signed deals with Circuit City, Best Buy, and other retail giants. Whenever you visit a major electronics or software store from now on, a special Microsoft sales associate at the door will make sure you have IE installed." When asked if customers would mind this sort of treatment, Ballmer noted that many shoppers have already had a similar experiences with those retailers.
Speculation and rumors have been circulating wildly about Microsoft's new installation method. Various reports have noted an unusal turnover in Microsoft's testing department, and that the normally relaxed environment on the Microsoft campus has recently seemed tense. Scott McNealy, CEO of Oracle, and a noted Microsoft critic released a statement calling Microsoft's new scheme "outrageous". McNealy went on to say that Oracle was remaining competive but was "developing a much more user-friendly system involving nasal installation."
Said one message on the popular Slashdot website, "It's really no suprise. They've been shoving that stupid thing down our throats for years. What did you think they'd do next? First Post."
IE news release
Otherwise, I'm sure the story is completely accurate.
I haven't personally tried this yet, but it looks like it should work. Anyone care to comment?
Aoyama Farm's newest bloodline.
Aoyama Farm's newest bloodline.
Steroids?
even when in use, if you are particularly fearful.
But check out Ad Aware, which will bust the advertisers' snooping systems which are currently sending information back from your PC to their parent web sites.
Another link:
RoboCup Rescue Rules.
Yes, if they have a red square around them.
If the square is any other color though - they are real.
That is how the internet works, iiibbb.
What is a hyperlink? Some sort of short description for a "made up" picture?
I hate cats.
This hyperlink, boys and girls, is not for boys and girls.
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Many thanks for info in Microsoft.
A few weeks ago, I downloaded a 'vital' driver update for Windows ME from the MS. The sound capability of computer instantly vanished.
After a week without sound, I decided to see if there was really a 'vital' upgrade by visiting the Micron site. The site proved incomprehensible.
One of Micron's really friendly technicians explained to me how the site worked. And miracles of miracles I was able reload the drivers that I could have reloaded from the CD that Micron had supplied!!!
Rechecking the Microsoft site, I discovered that the 'vital' upgrade had disappeared.
AND, then there was the time Microsoft sent me a virus -- but that is a long story, with, strangely, a happy ending.
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Interesting and so is the home site:
Sino-Japanese War of 1894-1895
Which leads to:
Chinese Warships Museum
3
The Enormous Cat
Yes, the cat really exists somewhere in the hinterland of Ontario, Canada. One of my sons -- a friend of his knows the person who owns the cat -- may visit the cat.
Jexter... you do asian studies, right?
Notes:
The following is the only known english version of the Codex Idiotica, the text upon which the religion of "Idiotica" is based (a religion that is centered completely on stupidity and senseless yet accidental bodily injury). While various other copies of it exist, none can be translated. This version was actually translated from a copy that was translated from yet another, which in turn was translated from the original by a monk who was the last known individual ever to exist that was capable of translating the original language. The original tome was notably longer, by about 100 fold, yet the meaning has remained intact, which says something about the verbosity of the original Codex Idiotica.
Play Lottorobics !
From some time near the end of World War II until his death in 1964, James Hampton, a janitor for the General Services Administration in Washington, D.C., spent virtually every spare minute constructing a strange and beautiful masterpiece entitled, "The Throne of the Third Heaven of the Nations' Millennium General Assembly."
It is the shortest thread and I was able by using the GO TO post button to get to the end...can someone please tell me why all my threads are loading back to post #1 and not allowing me to get to the final post?
Let me know if you win this bid
If you are a user of IE, it might ask if you want to install Japanese fonts. Just cancel. You don't have to install the fonts to see this page correctly.
The cheesy SMB look a like image on the left hand side of the the page is not an image. It is drawn entirely using table tags. Check the source. This guy has an infinite amount of time.
There is also an annimation using DHTML+table tag.
Salon Media Group, which runs the Salon.com online magazine, on Wednesday said it has received $750,000 from four investors including Michael Fuchs, former head of cable television's Home Box Office (HBO) network.
Fuchs will take a seat on Salon Media's board of directors, the company said in a statement.
The additional cash brings to $3.25 million the total amount of new money Salon has raised since closing a $2.5 million financing package back on Sept. 13.
"This provides us with more financial strength to weather the current Internet shakeout," said Chief Executive Officer Michael O'Donnell.
Salon also said it has passed 20,000 paid subscribers for its subscription-based services. --Reuters
National Geographic Photo of the Day
The first year or so (that I read it, anyway) it was a classic every month. After that, the occasional duds started becoming more frequent, and it's been in an Anthony Michael Hall phase for way too long now.
Now, you expect The Onion to be irreverant - even tasteless at times. But this month's Safety Tips for Halloween is just beyond the pale.
Take a look at two of these hilarious tips:
Pack your child's rectum with razor blades to make him/her less desirable to would-be molesters...
Before sending children off, give their anuses a good dollop of lube. This will help prevent their tissue from tearing when they are sodomized by maniacs.
Hyuk-hyuk.
Assholes.
The Onion
anyway, does anyone have some good non-consumer reports sites that deal with good vehicles to buy? i wanna look into it online before doing the physical shopping.
Snow White and the Seven Quarks
IT's unlikely!
The future potential of Dean Kamen's Segway is frequently compared to Preston Tucker's Torpedo.
However, perhaps a more apt comparison is to Clive Sinclair's C5... or Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion Car... or Paul Moller's Skycar... or Wendell Moore's Rocket Belt... or Glen Curtiss's Autoplane... or Waldo Waterman's Arrowbile... or Robert Fulton's Airphibian... or Moulton Taylor's Aerocar...
All about water:
Why Plato was right!
And the home page which gives The Table of Contents which, if followed, will tell you why water is --,well, like water:
Water structure and behavior
oh...and by the way... we need to get congress to ban DHMO
Mama told me not to come. Mama said that's no way to have fun
Game Intelligence
AN UNEXPECTED GIFT!
The complete text of Smart Computing back to 1992
AND
The complete text of some of the Smart Computing learning series accessible from:
INDEX
(I thought I had better mention this explicitly -- just in case some did not go there from the previous URL I posted.)
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