39001. jexster - 10/23/2008 10:57:46 AM
The Great George Herbert Hoover Bush Recession
Employers are moving to aggressively cut jobs and reduce costs in the face of the nation's economic crisis, preparing for what many fear will be a long and painful recession.
Job Losses Accelerate, Signaling Deeper Distress
Thus ends the only "recovery" in US history in which real wages didn't go up.
39002. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:01:24 AM
My posting is superior to rejexsts. Proof is that I don't have to resort to using words like 'cunt', 'nigger', 'porch monkey', 'sambo' et al to express my opinions, but rejexst does.
You don't use them because you are a fucking spineless pinworm. You use code words like "kenyan" "muslim" etc etc
You aren't a white MAN
You are a white WORM...a little white worm that lives in the large intestine of the body politic
Race Goes to Obama +11 - Powell Endorsement Helps with Independents
39003. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:02:30 AM
Yeah ain't he a doll
Gonna be a senator someday like his grandpa....The hat, very Senatorial sartorial
39004. thoughtful - 10/23/2008 11:05:40 AM
and the rarely heard from marj steps in to nab the #39,000 post, despite the fact the jex alone has been responsible for the last 997 posts!
39005. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:08:17 AM
38979
No doubt the Iranian parliament would endorse Obama (they haven't). This is because AlQaeda and the Shia are mortal enemies and Al Qaeda supports McStain.
Too bad McMoran doesn't know the difference between Shia and Sunni
39006. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:09:10 AM
First Read - Obama Moves Out in Battleground States
Too late to return all that pig lipstick to Sak's Fifth Avenue
39007. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:09:55 AM
Screw U TFilled U BWord on wheels
39008. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:14:47 AM
FYI..the AP poll was a statistical outlier...
This is a 7-10 point race trending to Obama...the AP registered voter number Obama 48 McStain 38.
No poll has shown Obama at 44 for a month...Hell Obama has 44 in Rasmussen's Texas poll
QPoll: McCain's Foreign Policy Advantage Nearly Non-Existent In Three Biggest Battlegrounds
39009. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:17:03 AM
FL-Pres
Oct 23 Quinnipiac
Obama (D) 49%, McCain (R) 44%
OH-Pres
Oct 23 QuinnipiacObama (D) 52%, McCain (R) 38%
PA-Pres
Oct 23 Quinnipiac
Obama (D) 53%, McCain (R) 40%
FYI 2 - The University of Wisconsin's Big Ten Poll above is a poll of registered voters and those "likely to register" in those states that allow voting day reg..so it represents the upper reach of Obama's awesome ground operation (like our own awesome OHIO!)
39010. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:18:11 AM
The only question remaining in this race, well two actually -
1. how big will Obama's margin be?
2. how big a refund can the RNC get on all that pig lipstick
39011. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:19:46 AM
Pres '08
Oct 23 Zogby
Obama (D) 52%, McCain (R) 40%
39012. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/23/2008 11:25:17 AM
Wow!
39013. wonkers2 - 10/23/2008 11:28:47 AM
What about Chuck Baldwin?
I'd never heard of Baldwin so I looked him up. He's a knuckle-dragging Evangelical in the tradition of the Reverends Elmer Gantry, Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard, Benny Hinn and Jerry Foulwell.
39014. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:30:19 AM
White Flag of Surrender
McSame Slashes CO Ad Budget
That's why they're making all those sleazeball robocalls...Poor man's TV..that and they can say anything w/out having to "approve this message"
39015. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:31:22 AM
Don't you go bad mouthin Benny Hinn...Huckabee/Hinn 2012..I'm DOWN!
39016. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:33:50 AM
Dr Wang's national MetaMargin of State polls has jumped a point to Obama +7.7
39017. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:36:13 AM
If anyone missed last night's McPain McPig interview on NBC, there's another tonight.
Worth watching even through the deformities.
Chuck Todd is right...you are lookin at two losers who cannot stand each other....McPainfully obvious
39018. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:37:31 AM
Ahnold - Palin not qualified - yet
39019. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:45:35 AM
GOP War on Minority Voting Continues
Judge Throws Out Republican Vote Theft Suit
We've got Voter Protection teams of lawyers and law students in every battleground state and even some that aren't.
Way to GO OHIO!
39020. thoughtful - 10/23/2008 11:47:42 AM
that's me, jex...provided the "b" word is "beauty"

39021. jexster - 10/23/2008 11:51:49 AM
The punditocracy's Seven Biggest Blunders of the 2008 election
Guess what? The Conventional Wisdom has blown it again in handicapping Obama vs. McCain in the homestretch.
The Obama's aren't measuring any drapes
The place comes furnished
39022. jexster - 10/23/2008 12:01:55 PM
Latest Polls Point to Obama Landslide
The Greatest Jigaboo in World History (I NEVER call a spade, a SAMBO unless he's a Republican!)
39023. jexster - 10/23/2008 12:29:34 PM
39024. jexster - 10/23/2008 12:44:25 PM
In which I write of paint continuing to dry
October 22nd, 2008, 10:32pm by Sam Wang
There’s just so many posts like this a guy can write. Obama is still crushing McCain. Still. Crushing. McCain...
39025. jexster - 10/23/2008 12:48:25 PM
Might make sense for the RNC to pull money out of McStain and give it to the NRCC and NRSC to cut off coattails
Then again..it might be too late
39026. jexster - 10/23/2008 12:49:18 PM
You'd better watch it Tfill...UR safe w/me but Capn Dirty's lurking
39027. jexster - 10/23/2008 1:02:30 PM
I hear the HTown Chron has endorsed Obama - first dem in a kazillion years
They've also endorse Lampson in T22 and the Beaner Bozo Noreiga basically on the grounds that it would be better for Houston to have Dems in the delegation with Obama as President
Ain't that some shit
39028. jexster - 10/23/2008 1:30:20 PM
John McCain plays simple answers to simple questions.
Reporters: Why did the RNC spend $150,000 on clothes and accessories for Sarah Palin and her family?
McCain: "She needed the clothes."
39029. jexster - 10/23/2008 1:36:48 PM
Alan Greenspan at the Waxman Hearings condemns GOP deregulation in "greatest financial disaster of our time"
39030. jexster - 10/23/2008 1:41:20 PM
If it walks like an outlier, if it talks like an outlier
NBC had the GOP half of its polling outfit on. Asked specfically about the screwy AP poll "people forget that when they see polling results they are seeing a number which is right 95% of the time within the MOE. Nobody ever talks about the other 5."
39031. jexster - 10/23/2008 1:44:15 PM
High praise indeed
GOP Congressman Tom Davis (VA) is "the Charlie Cook of Congress" Chuck Todd
Think he's the guy who said that if the GOP were dogfood, they'd take the brand off store shelves
39032. jexster - 10/23/2008 1:47:09 PM
Anti GOP backlash building downballot even in Tejas according to my brother
39033. jexster - 10/23/2008 1:58:33 PM
Caribou Barbie Goes Couture
NewsweekPhoto Essay

39034. jexster - 10/23/2008 2:12:16 PM
We're votin for the Nword!
The Goldwater Family: How McLame Lost Our Vote
Being Barry Goldwater's granddaughter and living in Arizona, one would assume that I would be voting for our state's senator, John McCain. I am still struck by certain 'dyed in the wool' Republicans who are on the fence this election, as it seems like a no-brainer to me.
Myself, along with my siblings and a few cousins, will not be supporting the Republican presidential candidates this year.…
N0 brainer all anyone needs to know about Conjob
Former GOP governor of MN Endorses Obama
39035. jexster - 10/23/2008 2:16:30 PM
I learned a lot about my grandfather while producing the documentary, Mr. Conservative Goldwater on Goldwater. Our generation of Goldwaters expects government to provide for constitutional protections. We reject the constant intrusion into our personal lives, along with other crucial policy issues of the McCain/Palin ticket.
My grandfather (Paka) would never suggest denying a woman's right to choose. My grandmother co-founded Planned Parenthood in Arizona in the 1930's, a cause my grandfather supported. I'm not sure about how he would feel about marriage rights based on same-sex orientation. I think he would feel that love and respect for ones privacy is what matters most and not the intolerance and poor judgment displayed by McCain over the years. Paka respected our civil liberties and passed on the message that that we should conduct our lives standing up for the basic freedoms we hold so dear.
A N0 brainer indeed
If I may be so bold, a major factor in I3's decision too
39036. jexster - 10/23/2008 2:18:27 PM
I loved Barry Goldwater once I met him in the early 70's when I was Johnston's "body man"
Extremely likeable man. I remember he drove a bitchin black T-Bird with instrumentation like a jet cockpit
39037. jexster - 10/23/2008 2:25:58 PM
George Stephanopoulos reports that the Republicans think Obama's GOTV operation is "scary"
This is part of the reason why they are afraid, very afraid
39038. jexster - 10/23/2008 2:46:17 PM
The Powell Bounce - LWord for the NWord
In a possible new sign that the electoral map is swinging further to Barack Obama, a new Montana State University poll gives him a narrow lead in Montana, a state that has voted Dem only twice in the last 50 years.
The numbers: Obama 44%, McCain 40%,
Elsewhere...DEMOCRATIC TSUNAMI WARNING
39039. jexster - 10/23/2008 3:13:25 PM
We are the change Concerned has been asking for
MadMax..if you're lurking..that double digit win you've been looking for ...now within reach at least..
Patience, patience
Obama's announced that his Victory Party will be held in HUGE Grant Park ChiTown

39040. concerned - 10/23/2008 3:27:03 PM
Drudge is reporting that a McCain/Palin volunteer in Pittsburgh was attacked and a 'B' carved in her face with a knife.
This is the result of 0bama telling his thugs to 'get in Republicans faces'. Murtha shares blame for this since he characterized his white constituency as 'racists' which will encourage such actions.
After all the air time and discussion given over to a couple doubtful imprecations shouted at Republican rallies, what are the chances that the Left Wing MSM are going to pick this assault up? Not very high, I think.
39041. concerned - 10/23/2008 3:31:15 PM
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Woman Attacked At ATM, Assailant Carves Letter Into Her Face
Woman Robbed, Attacked With Knife At Bloomfield ATM
POSTED: 4:03 pm EDT October 23, 2008
UPDATED: 4:10 pm EDT October 23, 2008
PITTSBURGH -- A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield was also maimed by her attacker, police said.
Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.
Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim's car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter "B" into her face, Richard said.
Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras.
The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.
39042. iiibbb - 10/23/2008 4:11:10 PM
hoax
39043. jexster - 10/23/2008 4:22:39 PM
McShame tore in to poor George Bush last night blaming him for the country's manifold problems
Why did Bush ruin America?
39044. jexster - 10/23/2008 4:25:27 PM
He betrayed his country to Ho Chi Minh
Now he's betraying George Herbert Hoover Bush and Dana Perino and other angry Republicans right back
39045. jexster - 10/23/2008 4:31:35 PM
He betrayed his country his first wife, George Bush and hundreds of decent Americans in between
But when it comes to a little poon...
McCain: 'She needed clothes'
McCain defended the RNC’s decision to spend more than $150,000 dollars on clothing for Palin.
39046. concerned - 10/23/2008 4:32:45 PM
More 0bamathugs 'getting in Republicans' faces' as per command.
Republican HQ Manager's Home Shot Up Over McCain Signs
Coverely said he has taken about 300 calls concerning stolen or vandalized McCain signs in the area.
"It says this campaign is getting vicious," Coverely said.
Coverely said it appears Democrats are becoming more aggressive in the county.
"I wouldn't say slipping, but I would say the Democrats have become far more aggressive in Seminole County because it is such a heavy Republican area," Coverely said.

39047. concerned - 10/23/2008 4:35:00 PM
Re. 39042 -
No hoax, nitwit. It's the lead story on KDKA, a CBS affiliate, right now.
POS Murtha shares the blame along with your hero 0bama for creating this situation.
39048. jexster - 10/23/2008 4:36:16 PM
Why did George Bush ruin America?
Why did John McStain betray him?
39049. jexster - 10/23/2008 4:37:33 PM
They could have bought Joe the Plumber a fucking house in Toledo and still had over 23K left for all they spent on lipstick for McPiglin
39050. jexster - 10/23/2008 4:37:37 PM
They could have bought Joe the Plumber a fucking house in Toledo and still had over 23K left for all they spent on lipstick for McPiglin
39051. jexster - 10/23/2008 4:40:05 PM
Why did John McShame throw Concerned under the Double Talk Express?
I have no idea but it's a yummy addition to Arky's Election Day RoadKill Stew
39052. jexster - 10/23/2008 4:45:11 PM
MN-Pres
Oct 23 Rasmussen
Obama (D) 56%, McCain (R) 41%
WA-Pres
Oct 23 Rasmussen
Obama (D) 54%, McCain (R) 43%
Pres '08
Oct 23 ABC/WaPoObama (D) 54%, McCain (R) 43%

39053. jexster - 10/23/2008 4:46:05 PM
If Concerned won't stand up for George W against McBetrayer, I guess I'll have to
Bring it on BWords
39054. jexster - 10/23/2008 4:48:53 PM
Only John McSame to blame
39055. jexster - 10/23/2008 5:00:03 PM
I hear that some republicans are mad as hell and want their money back from the RNC.
They didn't think they were contributing to a pig lipstick slush fund
How about you ConJob?
Are you MAD AS HELL?
or Mad as a hatter
39056. jexster - 10/23/2008 5:01:36 PM
Tampa Bay Times: Obama Moves to 7 Point Lead in FL
McLame is, I kid you not, running a "Joe the Plumber" bus tour across Florida right now
39057. jexster - 10/23/2008 5:06:57 PM
Critical Insights
10/16-19/08; 443 LV, 4.7%
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews
Maine
Obama 56, McCain 35
39058. jexster - 10/23/2008 5:13:21 PM
Concession Speech Announced
John McCain's election night watch party might be missing John McCain. Instead of appearing before a throng of supporters at the Biltmore Hotel in Phoenix on the evening of Nov. 4, the Republican presidential nominee plans to deliver postelection remarks to a small group of reporters and guests on the hotel's lawn.
Aides said Thursday that the arrangement was due to space limitations and that McCain might drop by the election watch party at some other point.
Say what?
39059. Wombat - 10/23/2008 5:40:37 PM
The young lady in question was certainly beaten. The backward "B" on her face looks like more of a scratch than a "carving" or "mutilation." No blood, she refused treatment, so presumably no stitches.
39060. jexster - 10/23/2008 5:49:40 PM
As a proud Son of the South, it pains me to say this but this is turning into fucking Sherman's March to the Sea
First the Old Dominion, now THIS?
Is nothing sacred anymore?
39061. jexster - 10/23/2008 6:02:59 PM
CBS/NYT Poll: Obama Leads McCain By 13 Points
39062. jexster - 10/23/2008 6:06:17 PM
The Change Concerned Has Been Asking For:
Revenge of the Mud People ...
39063. jexster - 10/23/2008 6:21:24 PM
As was the case last week, the McStain Piglin smear campaign has fallen apart
Obama continues to hold the highest personal approval rating of any Presidential candidate EVER. By contrast, more people disapprove than approve of McStain and Caribou Barbie
Seventy-five percent of registered voters say Obama has the temperament and personality to be president, up 6 points from last week. Nineteen percent say he does not. Only 50 percent say McCain has the proper temperament and personality, while nearly as many - 45 percent - say that he does not.
Yo Concerned...how many Poland-China hogs could you buy for $150,000?
39064. concerned - 10/23/2008 6:30:19 PM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Contact: Steve Marquis
Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org
Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/peoplesvoice.html
Lawsuits Starting Across the Nation Proceeding to Avert Potential Constitutional Crisis, Possible Civil Unrest, and Confidence in Elections; Lawsuits are being filed in Eight States Seeking to Require Barack Obama to Provide Certification of Birth in U.S. or Be Removed as Presidential Candidate on State Ballots.
Seattle WA. 10/22/2008 — Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing– Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, are seeking judicial authority to force the certifying or decertifying of Senator Barack Obama’s qualification to run as a candidate for President as a natural born U.S. citizen. Previously, two lawsuits have failed to force the certifying documents from Obama.
Philip Berg’s months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau yesterday as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the court that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen and therefore not qualified to run for office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Obama’s non-qualification by their failure to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer a petition by Berg. Berg is a lifelong Democrat in the Pennsylvania Democratic Party who has sought to ratchet up the legal pressure as Obama and the DNC has continually delayed providing certifying documentation of Obama’s birth, which he claims to have been in Hawaii.
A lawsuit in Honolulu in the First District Court is seeking a court-order to open Obama’s secret birth records. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information request for the records at two hospitals in Hawaii. Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state Superior Courts to force the states’ Secretary of State, as the chief state elections officer, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records from Mr. Obama that would verify his birth in Hawaii.
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “"No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States."
39065. concerned - 10/23/2008 6:30:24 PM
There are numerous allegations to Obama’s claim of natural birth in the U.S. on the web and in the media, all raising suspicion and doubt as to Obama’s actual place of birth and qualification to run for president. Some of the assertions to which Obama “admitted” on Berg’s suit are: he was born in Mombassa, Kenya in 1961 while his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was married to Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan; when his mother, divorced from Obama Sr, moved to Indonesia and married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, Obama was adopted by Soetoro and became an Indonesian citizen; while in Indonesia, Obama had his name changed to Barry Soetoro; Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 under an Indonesian passport when Pakistan was a no travel zone for Americans; Obama had “admitted” to receiving illegal contributions in his campaign for president. Additionally, there is an allegation that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother claims that Obama was born in Kenya; Muammar Gadhafi, leader of Libya, has publicly claimed that Obama was born in Kenya and studied in Muslim schools in Indonesia. Obama has also “admitted” to hold citizenship in another country (the U.S. Constitution forbids dual citizenship).
Non-partisan and independent reviews and examinations of Obama’s birth certificate as shown on his official website has evidence of tampering and in any case does not list any of the points of information commonly found which would make it traceable and verifiable such as hospital, doctor, size weight, foot prints etc.
Interestingly, all these state lawsuits would be dropped if Mr. Obama would simply provide the requested documents supporting his claim of being born in Hawaii.
Lawsuits in additional states are being added each day. For more information about each lawsuit, contact:
(HI) Andy Martin at email: AndyMart20@aol.com
(WA) Steve Marquis email: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org ; website: www.peoplespassion.org
(CA) David Archbold email darchbo1@gmail.com
(GA) Tom Terry email: kingdommatters@gmail.com
(PA) Philip Berg email: philjberg@obamacrimes.com ; website: www.obamacrimes.com
(NY) Dan Smith email: Dansmith1954@aol.com
(CT) Cort Wrotnowski email: Metaqubit@aol.com
39066. Jenerator - 10/23/2008 6:50:35 PM
They could have bought Joe the Plumber a fucking house in Toledo and still had over 23K left for all they spent on lipstick for McPiglin
Or, Obama could have bought Joe a house in Toledo and put $149,875,000.00 from last month into a retirement/education fun for his family and the residents of Toledo.
39067. jexster - 10/23/2008 6:53:47 PM
Honkers CLAIMs I have slandered him
Honkers CLAIMs that this is the HonkerHouse

39068. jexster - 10/23/2008 6:57:12 PM
IF Obama had spent the 150,000,000 on Joe the Plumber an 150,000 on pig lipstick for Palin..then we wouldn't be seeing this headline now at ThePolitico
Blame game: GOP forms circular firing squad
By JONATHAN MARTIN & MIKE ALLEN & JOHN F. HARRIS |
Coordination between the campaign and RNC is now nearly dysfunctional, with little high-level contact and intelligence-sharing between the two.
39069. jexster - 10/23/2008 6:59:09 PM
GOP "Goner List" Forsees Disaster in House of Representatives
Sarah needs shoes
39070. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:05:09 PM
Bereit! Ziel! Feuer!
39071. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:08:16 PM
Will NO one stand up for George Herbert Hoover Bush against McStain's vicious attacks?????

39072. iiibbb - 10/23/2008 7:09:59 PM
39073. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:11:54 PM
The Cake is Baked!
At his Northern Virginia headquarters, some McCain aides are already speaking of the campaign in the past tense. Morale, even among some of the heartiest and most loyal staffers, has plummeted. And many past and current McCain advisors are warring with each other over who led the candidate astray.
One well-connected Republican in the private sector was shocked to get calls and resumes in the past few days from what he said were senior McCain aides – a breach of custom for even the worst-off campaigns.
“It’s not an extraordinarily happy place to be right now,” said one senior McCain aide. “I’m not gonna lie. It’s just unfortunate.”
“If you really want to see what ‘going negative’ is in politics, just watch the back-stabbing and blame game that we’re starting to see,” said Mark McKinnon, the ad man who left the campaign after McCain wrapped up the GOP primary. “And there’s one common theme: Everyone who wasn’t part of the campaign could have done better.”
“The cake is baked,” agreed a former McCain strategist. “We’re entering the finger-pointing and positioning-for-history part of the campaign. It’s every man for himself now.”
39074. Jenerator - 10/23/2008 7:14:48 PM

39075. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:19:36 PM
The New York Times magazine expose of the McSame-Piglin disaster is instructive.
One McStain apparat explained that they picked Caribou Barbie because she'd look good in a Time magazine cover frame
39076. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:22:42 PM
Dan Schnur, a McCain communications advisor during his 2000 run and now a political analyst at the University of Southern California, said McCain should step in to halt the defeatism and self-serving leaks—an epidemic of incontinence—on his own team.
INCONTINENCE! That's too cruel.
If this is what they're doing to each other now, just wait til Nov 5
Schnur's a long time fixture in CA GOP politics..worked for Pete Wilson, Ahnold, Bush Cheney 2004 national and was main communications flak for the CPA in Baghdad....
39077. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:23:56 PM

39078. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:34:35 PM
He's SEVEN POINTS down in FL according to the TampaTrib/Miami Herald poll
His buddy Charlie Crist went to DisneyWorld instead of one of his rallies, and the FL GOP announced that it was going to save $2 million it had planned on spending this year ....
So what's McSame doing????
39079. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:39:46 PM
The latest poll out of MT has Obama +4
What's McDepends gonna do?
Trot out Ricky the Rancher?????
39080. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:41:31 PM
Now Freedoms Watch is taking after Obama for heading to his sick Granny's bedside in his own campaign plane
Concerned in the Happy Home w/in the month
39081. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:46:50 PM
Raymond the Rustler???
NyT/CBS
39082. jexster - 10/23/2008 7:56:44 PM
Wouldn't you???
McCain might skip his own election-night party
39083. jexster - 10/23/2008 8:03:41 PM
Powell, the Goldwater family now Scott McClellan endorses Obama
39084. jexster - 10/23/2008 8:12:15 PM
Charlie Cook: House Dems On Track For Gains In The Mid-Twenties
39085. jexster - 10/23/2008 8:42:09 PM
Alaskans: We Don't Recognize Palin Any More
Too much pig lipstick from Neiman Marcus?
39086. jexster - 10/23/2008 8:43:59 PM
She's a vicious little minx....she's screwing McStain now every chance she gets..
Ready to rumble 2012
Tomorrow though she's giving her deposition in TrooperGate II - now a broad investigation of her unethical abuse of power as Governor for2 years
Should have vetted the pig and frisked her for knives
39087. jexster - 10/23/2008 8:52:33 PM
Bad hair day for ConJob
1. McStain tanks in the polls
2. McShame throws Bush under the bus
3. Alan Greenspan blames GOP deregulation for financial disaster
4. Bush opens diplomatic office in Tehran
5. Democratic tsunami about to bury Congressional GOP
The nitwitted nutcase nearly two years ago whined that he "didn't have game"
Ain't got shit two years later
39088. jexster - 10/23/2008 9:25:06 PM
Is Caribou Barbie Trying to Throw McStain Under the Zamboni???
39089. David Ehrenstein - 10/24/2008 8:19:05 AM
John McCain Pals Around With Mass Murderers
39090. iiibbb - 10/24/2008 8:22:52 AM
Message # 39087 Let me try...
1) You're looking at the wrong polls... the secret racist effect... umm
2) McCain is a RINO.
3) Alan Greenspan never was a real Republican and we never liked him. It was the decisions he made during the Clinton years that caused all of the problems.
4) It is incredibly important that we discuss issues with foreign powers... sheesh...
5) Marxist Socialism is going to destroy America. We're all dupes who've been tricked and the first thing Obama is going to do after he creates his all-black/muslim cabinet is to start putting WASPS into camps and exterminating them.
39091. Wombat - 10/24/2008 8:32:05 AM
iiibbb:
No, he'll send around thugs to carve "H" (for honkey) into our faces...
39092. jexster - 10/24/2008 8:35:33 AM
"Oui, on peut -- Yes we can!"
OBAMA ZYDECO FROM LOUISIANA 2008
39093. jexster - 10/24/2008 8:49:41 AM
Puts Lipstick on the Pig: The Highest-Paid McCain Staffer is Palin's Makeup Artist!
The New York Times reports that Amy Strozzi, the traveling makeup artist for Sarah Palin, is in fact the top-paid staffer on the campaign. Strozzi was paid $22,800 during just the first two weeks of October, compared to only $12,500 for top foreign-policy adviser Randy Scheunemann.
39094. jexster - 10/24/2008 8:58:35 AM
THe Great Recession...they're sayin this bad boy could last 2-3 years
39095. jexster - 10/24/2008 9:00:54 AM
Concerned is right to worry over the coming nig***dom. You think it's a coincidence that GWB has declined to close the Gulag and left the matter to Obama?
39096. jexster - 10/24/2008 9:06:01 AM
Don't fret about your 401(k)'s. We are all getting a nice chunk of the insurance Giant AIG which has now consumed 3/4 of the 123 billion loan we gave them.
God Bless the United Socialist States of America and its pointy headed insurance agents
39097. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/24/2008 9:07:06 AM
This is great . . .
39098. iiibbb - 10/24/2008 9:10:41 AM
I told you the story stunk.
Police: 'Inconsistencies' In Story Of Politically Motivated Attack
Woman Robbed With Knife At Bloomfield ATM
Speaking to Channel 4 Action News on Friday, Richard said they're still questioning Todd because of some new developments.
"We have learned that the victim's statement has a few inconsistencies in it and her statement has changed," said Richard
Richard said Todd now says she isn't sure if it was a bumper sticker on her car or a campaign button on her jacket that angered the attacker. Richard said Todd added new details to the attack, saying at one point she lost consciousness.
"She also indicated she was sexually assaulted as well. She indicated that when he had her on the ground he put his hand up her blouse and started fondling her. But other than that, she says she doesn't remember anything else. So we're adding a sexual assault to this as well," Richard said.
39099. jexster - 10/24/2008 9:13:38 AM
Anyone who watches COPS and First 48 as much as I do knows that the first rule of criminal investigation is always - find the negro
39100. jexster - 10/24/2008 9:14:01 AM
Second rule is they always lie
39101. jexster - 10/24/2008 9:17:13 AM
Our OHIO is doing a Mighty Work for Our God
39102. jexster - 10/24/2008 9:20:09 AM
Confirming yesterday's numbers...Looks like Ohio has broken free - at last
OH-Pres
Oct 23 Univ. of WI
Obama (D) 53%, McCain (R) 41%
OH-Pres
Oct 23 Quinnipiac
Obama (D) 52%, McCain (R) 38%
39103. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/24/2008 9:38:47 AM
39104. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/24/2008 10:55:45 AM
The Sorcerer's Apprentice admits that he was a fool . . .
39105. jexster - 10/24/2008 11:00:06 AM
Oui on peut!
39106. jexster - 10/24/2008 11:00:53 AM
39107. jexster - 10/24/2008 11:07:51 AM
Poll: Obama Holds Double-Digit Lead In Battleground States
Still more stunning numbers in the new NPR poll, which is the final poll of the Presidential race by the Dem firm of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner:
* Obama holds a double-digit lead -- 11 points -- in the 15 core battleground states. To put this in perspective, the pollsters note, Bush won these states by 4 points in 2004.
* Obama leads by 12 among battleground state independents.
* Obama is leading among battleground state Catholics.
39108. jexster - 10/24/2008 11:29:10 AM
39103
My name is Barack Obama and I approved this message...
39109. jexster - 10/24/2008 11:36:55 AM
Train's Leavin' the Station
39110. jexster - 10/24/2008 12:10:04 PM
Oh the McShame!
GOP Candidate Personally Engaged in Voter Fraud
Tejas 22
39111. concerned - 10/24/2008 12:19:57 PM
Another reason to vote McCain/Palin:
Obama & Democrats Move To Seize 401(k) Plans
US News & World Report published a story yesterday morning in which they uncovered little discussed legislation that would effectively eliminate 401(k) plans and create a second quasi-Social Security system in which the government would take control of the retirement plan savings of millions of Americans.
According to US News & World Report along with Congressional Records, a House subcommittee is considering the advancement of legislation that would ELIMINATE 401(k) plans and create as an alternative a "Guaranteed Retirement Account" for every worker in the United States. Under the plan, Americans' existing 401(k) accounts would be transferred into the GRA and would grow at an average yield of around 3%. The subsequent loss of preferential tax treatment among US employers who offer the qualified plans would be used to make a $600 per person government contribution into the plans. In addition, the GRA's would require a mandatory 5% contribution (tax) by all US workers.
Democratic Congressman Jim McDermott (D-WA) who supports the plan was quoted as saying, "the savings rate isn't going up for the investment of $80 billion [in 401(k) tax breaks], we have to start to think about whether or not we want to continue to invest that $80 billion for a policy that's not generating what we now say it should."
This legislation being considered by Democrats is perhaps the most dangerous proposal put forth by the Democrats to date. The system would essentially create a second Social Security System in which bureaucrats would control the funding, investment and use of the money. The government would control all provisions of the plan, and individual rights for determination of risk reward would be stripped.
Like the current Social Security System, which is failing and is expected to collapse unless massive reforms are instituted, the 401(k) replacement program would give no assurance of the protection of funds. The government, just as with Social Security, could essentially strip the plan of assets and use those assets within the general fund. Where is Al Gore and his lock box?
39112. concerned - 10/24/2008 12:20:03 PM
More importantly, consider the immediate implications of such a plan? There is currently $4.5 Trillion dollars invested within 401(k) plans in the United States, the transfer of this wealth to the government would destroy not only the financial markets but would also cause the collapse of an entire industry of financial and accounting companies that have been built upon the Retirement Savings Industry. This would be the largest loss of wealth and seizure of public assets in world history.
In addition, consider the long term ramifications of such a system. A 3% savings rate will essentially double the account value every 24 years. That would mean that if you were 41 years old today and had $20,000 in your 401 (k) plan, that money would now be worth $40,000 at age 65 under the GRA. This GRA plan would depress savings rate to a point that multiple generations of Americans would be unable to outpace inflation within their savings and suffer inadequate incomes upon retirement. The resulting "Welfare" generation would only spurn more government taxes in order to provide for their retirement. The resulting vicious cycle of impoverishment and taxation would never end.
Is this the change that we are looking for?
The seizure of $4.5 trillion dollars by the government. A promise of low returns, no control over assets, and no guarantee that the funds would not be replaced by a promissory note.
Is this the change that you want?
The creation of a welfare state in which the government is responsible for all aspects of our lives as if we were a society of 4 year olds.
Is this change for the better?
A government that will fail to protect the current Social Security & Medicare System but will create new Bureaucratic programs based upon those failing systems.
Is It Really Time To Change America?
Are we now in the age in which we abandon 232 years of government built upon State's Rights, Individual Rights, Checks & Balances, and an American Exceptionalism based upon unhindered opportunity and a government ruled by the people, not established to rule the people.
J Brown
October 24th, 2008
39113. jexster - 10/24/2008 12:21:15 PM
Baskin Robbins Flavor of the Month: Whirl of Change
39114. iiibbb - 10/24/2008 12:22:05 PM
McCain met with dictator without preconditions
39115. concerned - 10/24/2008 12:23:47 PM
Re. 39114 -
So what? McCain wasn't president in 1985.
39116. concerned - 10/24/2008 12:24:34 PM
If iiibbb thinks tripe like that is significant, he's even a bigger fool than I've considered him so far.
39117. jexster - 10/24/2008 12:36:44 PM
Dems predicting ‘earthquake’ election
Pollster said the GOP has not adjusted to a changed electorate.
Concerned didn't have "game" in 2006
In 2008 he ain't got dick
or balls
Who cares about a waRshed up old racist
39118. jexster - 10/24/2008 12:44:46 PM
As if it hasn't been obvious for two years that Concerned has launched vicious slur after loathesome smear against Obama for only one reason - he's a stone racist - but hasn't got the guts to say so.
Cowardly enough. Obvious enough.
But that he hasn't the courage even to stand against John McStain's vicious and scurrilous attacks against President Bush is beyond reprensible even for a pinworm like him
39119. David Ehrenstein - 10/24/2008 12:56:09 PM
Hey, that's gonna leave a mark!
39120. jexster - 10/24/2008 1:01:18 PM
When Pencil Dick plans on posting something true, somebody wake me
39121. iiibbb - 10/24/2008 1:15:36 PM
Message # 39115
I'm just trying to match you tripe for tripe.
I actually don't think there's anything wrong with sitting down with our enemies if there's something to be gained from it.
The problem is the hypocrisy of decrying Obama saying he would do such a thing... when one has done such things (or supports a candidate who's done such things).
In other words... when I post tripe... I'm mocking you. Sorry if you didn't get it before.
39122. jexster - 10/24/2008 1:17:49 PM
CBS/NyT

39123. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/24/2008 1:25:30 PM
I make great tripe ala Milanese!
39124. concerned - 10/24/2008 2:05:44 PM
Re. 39121 -
You post more tripe than you know. The problem is 0bama's position that, as president, he will personally talk to America's enemies without preconditions.
This has almost nothing to do with your Pinochet foolishness, and your bringing it up merely makes you look like an idiot or dishonest.
39125. jexster - 10/24/2008 2:16:03 PM
The entire Republican Party is a hoax
39126. iiibbb - 10/24/2008 2:18:39 PM
No... I'm just mad at the Republican party.
39127. jexster - 10/24/2008 2:18:50 PM

39128. iiibbb - 10/24/2008 2:18:56 PM
Sorry if I take it out on you...
39129. jexster - 10/24/2008 2:22:56 PM
Time to restore the REAL GOP....to that end I propose beginning Jan 22 the arrest, detention and screening of all registered republicans
Those who pass a basic IQ test in American Democracy (Powell, Weld, Buckley etc) will be allowed to create a NEW GOP
The rest will be sent to the GWB Gulag
Those who resist will be sent out to the various states which presently have a tremendous surplus capacity of death gurneys
Ashes of the crackpots will be processed through San Francisco's newly renamed "George W. Bush Sewage Treatment Facility"
The program will create tens of thousands of new jobs
39130. Wombat - 10/24/2008 2:31:11 PM
Concerned:
I have just come from the US News & World Report web site, and I have found no sign of such an article. Collecting phoney stuff from second-hand sources again, or are you just making it up?
Speaking of making things up...the alleged "mutilated" McCain supporter confessed to Pittsburg police that she made it up. That was on the US News & World Report web site.
39131. concerned - 10/24/2008 2:37:22 PM
Collecting phoney stuff from second-hand sources again, or are you just making it up?
No, but you are.
Regarding the McCain supporting Tawana Brawley wannabe, I have already posted a condemnation of her actions in another forum.
usn&wr link
39132. magoseph - 10/24/2008 2:49:46 PM
Here's the site where Concerned found what he posted in the posts 39111 and 39112:
Poliically Drunk on Power!
39133. concerned - 10/24/2008 2:51:44 PM
Regarding the McCain supporting Tawana Brawley wannabe, I have already posted a condemnation of her actions in another forum.
Unlike Mote Lefties, I'm honest enough to criticize wrongdoing on both sides. Guess that makes me a centrist.
39134. concerned - 10/24/2008 2:53:06 PM
magoseph -
You for or against it?
39135. magoseph - 10/24/2008 2:59:40 PM
I listen to superinvestor Buffett, Concerned--he keeps me busy these days.
39136. concerned - 10/24/2008 3:02:26 PM
Re. 39135 -
IOW, it's too tough a question for you.
39137. vonKreedon - 10/24/2008 3:02:29 PM
Unlike Mote Righties, I'm intelligent enough to not make asinine blanket stereotyping strawman statements....oh, wait.
39138. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/24/2008 3:05:39 PM
Guess that makes me a centrist.
No, that makes you delusional.
Jexster, if you ever come East, I'll cook tripa for you with rustic sourdough Tuscan bread (Carol Field's bread recipe)!
39139. concerned - 10/24/2008 3:07:08 PM
Re. 39137 -
There are no Mote 'righties' that I know of, certainly not in the plural - they've been driven off by LW drivel. So, let me fix Von Kreedon's error for him:
VK: "Unlike Mote Lefties, I'm intelligent enough to not make asinine blanket stereotyping strawman statements....oh, wait."
So VK - your take on this Democrat plan, please, or are you another whimpering LW ignoramus?
39140. concerned - 10/24/2008 3:08:02 PM
Re. 39138 -
Trust Wiper to make the cheap shot. VK was just talking about you, Wiper.
39141. vonKreedon - 10/24/2008 3:15:38 PM
Yeah, I considered writing, "Unlike the Mote Righty, I'm intelligent enough to not make asinine blanket stereotyping strawman statements....oh, wait." but that somehow lacked the punchiness.
Regarding a purported plan to do away with 401ks, I don't know if I support it or not. I haven't seen anything other than the blog you linked and it seems to be deduction and supposition based on one professor testifying to a House sub-committee chaired by an out of the Dem mainstream Congressman, so I'm not taking it very seriously at this point.
39142. concerned - 10/24/2008 3:20:40 PM
Well, can you even describe some factors that would cause you to favor or disfavor it, or are you completely without ideas here?
39143. concerned - 10/24/2008 3:21:17 PM
Death Threats Sent to Pollster
National Review ^ | 10/24/2008 | Jim Geraghty
After releasing this morning’s numbers showing McCain ahead in Ohio and Florida, the Strategic Vision polling company received several death threats through the contact e-mail on the company’s web site.
David Johnson, the CEO of Strategic Vision, shared the messages with National Review Online.
One of the messages stated:
My goodness, your polls stinks. There are 3 polls that have Obama by double digits and only yours has Obama down. WOW!. How come your poll is the only one giving Palin high favor ratings? I think you nee dto be careful tonight when you get in your car and might want to check underneath your car. SCRAP YOUR IDIOTIC POLLS OR ELSE!
Another stated:
A poll that gave Sarah Palin and Barack Obama the same favorability rating is wrong off the bat. Be careful going outside tonight because you might not see tomorrow.
A third message stated:
Why would your presidential election poll results be so drastically different from every other reputable poll taken over the same time period? Are they that dumb or are you guys that smart? Smart guys wind up dead.
The company has contacted the FBI and appropriate authorities, Johnson said. There was, thankfully, nothing in the messages that indicated that the sender had actually sought out the location of the company or its employees. Johnson noted that while the messages came from different addresses, they all came within a short period of time, and that it was possible they were from the same person.
Johnson said he’s not fearful, but taking appropriate measures.
“It’s probably just a bunch of nut cases, but this is first time we’ve ever experienced something like this,” Johnson said. “It’s highly, highly unusual. We get messages in the vein of 'your numbers are wrong, the other guy's numbers are right' all the time. But this has never happened before.”
39144. vonKreedon - 10/24/2008 3:22:34 PM
Con - I'm completely without interest here. Sorry for not dancing to your tune.
39145. concerned - 10/24/2008 3:35:06 PM
Having an honest opinion is not 'dancing to' a tune, VK.
You're worse than pathetic.
39146. concerned - 10/24/2008 3:36:19 PM
In the event of an 0bama victory, I'm moving my remaining 403b investments into my IRA. If the Government goes after my IRA, I'll pull the funds out and take the 10% hit.
39147. judithathome - 10/24/2008 3:39:03 PM
We can all rest easy...Conn'd is on the job!
39148. jexster - 10/24/2008 3:39:15 PM
When it comes to eRections - Dr. Wang You Da Man!
On the track record of simple poll aggregation
October 24th, 2008, 8:46am by Sam Wang
As I’ve written many times, you should never get too concerned with a single poll. But what about the flip side - can you trust aggregates of polls? The answer is yes. In Presidential and Congressional elections since 2000, the general approach I advocate has an exceptionally good track record. Simple meta-analysis of polls should do at least as well as more elaborate models and can also outperform electronic markets. Read on.[Read more ?]
As of October 24, 12:00PM EDT: Obama: 358 McCain: 180 Meta-margin: Obama +8.08%
39149. concerned - 10/24/2008 3:44:13 PM
Re. 39147 -
JAH -
Are you honest enough to share your opinion of this Democrat 401K plan?
39150. concerned - 10/24/2008 3:46:51 PM
Honestly, the whole pack of you sound like grade school LW propaganda sockpuppets without an opinion of your own.
39151. Wombat - 10/24/2008 3:50:18 PM
Concerned:
I see my mistake. I looked in the relevant news sections of the web site, not for the opinion of a columnist there. Do you know the difference between a news report and an opinion column? Apparently not. You did go to college, right? Did you ever learn how to conduct research while you were there?
And post your retraction here, too. We have as much right to see you eat some crow as anywhere else, given the amount of crap that you have been spewing here.
39152. vonKreedon - 10/24/2008 3:52:36 PM
Con - Please link to the text of a Dem plan to destroy our 401k. So far you have not done so, so it is not possible to have any opinion, honest or otherwise, of such a plan.
39153. wonkers2 - 10/24/2008 3:52:55 PM
Any alleged plan to "seize 401k plan money" will never get off the ground. Just about everybody supports 401k plans. Changes are required--automatic enrollment and prohibition of investing any of an employee's savings in the stock or bonds of his employer.
Fixing social security will require tweaks not massive changes. Medicare is the real problem.
39154. jexster - 10/24/2008 3:55:21 PM
Concerned Citizen Protests Public Eyesore -

39155. jexster - 10/24/2008 4:08:07 PM
Branded! Marked with a coward's shame!
The Assisted Suicide Of The American Right
What can do you when you're branded,
But fight for your name?
McPiglette from COLLEGE STATION TEJAS!!!!
What sixties TV show memory synapse did that come from????
Seems the rest of the circuit is fried
39156. wonkers2 - 10/24/2008 4:16:59 PM
Here are some good reasons to vote for Obama
Vote for Obama
39157. jexster - 10/24/2008 4:20:36 PM
Hoax came from McStain Campaign..
Pgh. Police doubted from the start
39158. jexster - 10/24/2008 4:45:37 PM
39159. jexster - 10/24/2008 5:04:58 PM
John Moody
Executive VP
Faux News
39160. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/24/2008 5:32:21 PM
The Wizard Of Whimsy is now a reggae star . . . Mahn!!!
39161. jexster - 10/24/2008 5:45:05 PM
Is it true that the McBWord carved the B herself?
Stupid fucking Aggie..never learnt bout mirrors
39162. jexster - 10/24/2008 5:45:31 PM
Toys wizzer
39163. jexster - 10/24/2008 6:22:40 PM
. Rare...but occasionally Brownstein hits the mark
When Palin said she had nothing to lose she was wrong. You never get a second chance to make a first impression
Huckabee-Bachmann 2012
39164. David Ehrenstein - 10/24/2008 6:25:13 PM
What's the difference between a Hockey Mom and a pitbull?
39165. jexster - 10/24/2008 6:59:26 PM
Oh the shame
Polls: White support for Obama at historic level
Two weeks of Gallup polls show 44 percent of non-Hispanic white voters support Obama—the highest number for a Dem since 1976.
Be afraid concerned ...someone might carve an H in your fat ass
39166. David Ehrenstein - 10/24/2008 7:31:15 PM
MCCAIN FED RACIST LIE TO MEDIA!!!!!!!
39167. jexster - 10/24/2008 7:33:24 PM
39168. jexster - 10/24/2008 7:46:16 PM
McFraud Perp Walk
39169. jexster - 10/24/2008 7:51:03 PM
Obama Still Holds 13 Point Lead in Newsweek Poll
39170. jexster - 10/24/2008 7:52:35 PM
Palin Rips Bush as Major Obstacle to Campaign
So it's all about McPiglin eh.
So where's Concerned NOW?
Coward
Liar
Fraud
39171. jexster - 10/24/2008 7:56:10 PM
The new poll suggests Obama is consolidating his support across demographic groups. He now leads McCain in every age group, even among voters 65 and older, who choose him over McCain 48 percent to 42 percent. He leads handily among men, 52 percent to 42 percent, and among women, 54 percent to 39 percent. He now leads McCain by 46 percent to 44 percent among working class whites, a dramatic reversal from April, when McCain led him in that group 53 percent to 35 percent.
Call it white flight to quality
39172. jexster - 10/24/2008 9:15:25 PM
GOP Heavyweights Bail on McStain-Piglin
39173. concerned - 10/24/2008 9:52:03 PM
Just about the only racist filth in the Mote is by rejexst.
I'm guilty of being against socialist policies by idiots. Unfortunately for rejexst, being against socialist policies by idiots is not 'racism', never was, never will be.
39174. concerned - 10/24/2008 10:05:07 PM
I'll try to pick up rejexst's toys again.
It's very disappointing that all the Mote Leftists are so cowed by the PC Nazis that they are afraid to offer any criticism of the Democrat sponsored elimination of 401K's.
It seems like yesterday that people were concerned by SS's becoming insolvent in the not so distant future. Now, with 0bama in power, there appears that there will be every chance that the 6.5% SS employee take by the Federal Government will expand by a mandatory 5% of gross salary for each and every employee in the US. That's on top of Democrats taking in the approximate $4 trillion of existing 401K savings to add to the Federal slush fund.
And Left Wing Moties are are now afraid to make a peep of criticism. We're talking massive increases in overall taxation under an all Democrat legislative and executive branch, not any kind of decrease.
This is beyond pathetic. I have some very good advice for Mote Lefties. No political party is worth sacrificing your constitutional rights and duties, livelihood and standard of living for. Particularly one that is composed of the most unpopular, incompetent Congress in US history and the least experienced, farthest Left presidential candidate in history.
Until now, US voters have usually shown enough common sense to vote in their self interest. But now, many of them apparently insist on repeating the same mistakes of higher taxation that led to the Great Depression after the initial stock crash of 1929, of which we are experiencing the near equivalent now (thanks to Democrat Congressvermin who, btw, are not being called to task in any way for their criminal irresponsibility).
You Mote Lefties are tremendous fools and cowards.
39175. vonKreedon - 10/24/2008 10:17:49 PM
Con Artist - As I noted upthread, you have not linked to any alleged Dem sponsored legislation to eliminate 401ks, so an honest person cannot offer any criticism, or support, for the legislation. Plus the ploy was so ham-handed to be yawn inducingly boring. Please do try harder to at least be amusing if you're not going to actually rationally argue a position.
39176. vonKreedon - 10/24/2008 10:19:44 PM
And Jex, are you wilfully avoiding learning to pick up your toys at this point? It's been years and yet you continue to leave them about like a petulant child....well, put that way I guess I understand the behavior.
39177. concerned - 10/24/2008 10:20:49 PM
From Wikipedia:
In June 2008, the Wall Street Journal reported that two former CEOs of Fannie Mae, James A. Johnson and Franklin Raines had received loans below market rate from Countrywide Financial. Fannie Mae was the biggest buyer of Countrywide's mortgages. [33]
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have strategically given contributions to lawmakers currently sitting on committees that primarily regulate their industry: The House Financial Services Committee; the Senate Banking, Housing & Urban Affairs Committee; or the Senate Finance Committee. The others have seats on the powerful Appropriations or Ways & Means committees, are members of the congressional leadership or have run for president.
Barney Frank has been a member of the House Financial Services Committee since 1991 (and is currently the chair). The HFSC is one of two government entities responsible for oversight over Fannie Mae. From 1991 to 1998, Barney Frank had a lover, Herb Moses, who was an executive at Fannie Mae. While at Fannie Mae, Moses helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs. Other lawmakers have called this a "clear conflict of interest." [34]
In 2003, the Bush administration recommended a significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry. However, many Democrats opposed that regulation fearing that tighter regulation could sharply reduce financing for low-income housing, both low and high risk. Treasury Secretary John W. Snow stated that Congress should remove the president's power to appoint directors to Fannie Mae. [35]
In 2006, Senator McCain joined as a co-sponsor to the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 (first put forward by Sen. Charles Hagel [R-NE])[36] where he pointed out that Fannie Mae's regulator reported that profits were "illusions deliberately and systematically created by the company's senior management".[37] However, this regulation too met with opposition from many Democrats. Thus, Congressional Democrats repeatedly fought back Republican efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.[38]
39178. concerned - 10/24/2008 10:21:05 PM
The Democrats who served as top Fannie Mae executives include Franklin Raines- former Clinton Budget Director and CEO from 1999 to 2004; James Johnson- former aide to Democratic Vice-President Walter Mondale and ex-head of Obama's Vice-Presidential Selection Committee, CEO from 1991 to 1998; and Jamie Gorelick- former Clinton Deputy Attorney General, Vice-Chair from 1998 to 2003. In their positions, Johnson earned an estimated $21 million; Raines earned an estimated $90 million; while Gorelick earned an estimated $26 million.[39] All three top executives were also involved in mortgage-related financial scandals.[40][41]
First time Senator Barack Obama received $105,849, the third highest in 1989-2008, in campaign contributions from Fannie Mae employees and PACs,[42] including $16,000 in campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac executive management.[43]
John McCain received $21,550 from Fannie Mae in 1989-2008.[43]
If any of you Mote Lefties disagrees with the above, change it. C'mon, you chickenshit cowards - you know it's true just the way it stands. I don't want to read any of your bullshit lies about whose fault the collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are until you can prove you changed the Wikipedia entry to match your bullshit and make it stick.
If you fail to change this Wikipedia entry to blame Bush and the Republicans and make it stick then I can safely assume that we are agreed that it's the Democrat Congressional motherfuckers like Frank and Dodd who are at fault here.
39179. concerned - 10/24/2008 10:23:50 PM
Re. 39175 -
Changing the subject again, you chickenshit bastard? Do everybody a favor and don't waste our time with more of your bullshit except by giving your honest opinion of this Democrat initiative.
39180. iiibbb - 10/24/2008 10:24:23 PM
<39716> Actually it's Wizard's toy
The font of Jexter's name is the same font as the post... therefore the toy is from the previous post.
39181. concerned - 10/24/2008 10:25:34 PM
Of course, since you're just a chickenshit, you won't do that.
39182. Wombat - 10/24/2008 10:50:44 PM
Concerned: you are literally flying to pieces in front of us. Get help.
39183. Wombat - 10/24/2008 10:52:08 PM
We want our good-ol' loopy-doopy Concerned, not this spittle-flecked, raving maniac.
39184. Wombat - 10/24/2008 10:53:29 PM
Maybe you should post at Acey's House O' Crazies. You'll fit right in...
39185. iiibbb - 10/24/2008 11:40:52 PM
Hey concerned... tell us more about the Birth Certificate story.
39186. arkymalarky - 10/24/2008 11:47:06 PM
Hey, Con'd, have you used Obama's tax calculator to calculate the size of your tax cut yet?
39187. arkymalarky - 10/24/2008 11:49:17 PM
Someone point me to the Con'd post that retracts what he said about the veracity of that girl's race-baiting assault story.
39188. Wombat - 10/25/2008 12:18:34 AM
It's on a different blog, according to him.
39189. David Ehrenstein - 10/25/2008 9:06:44 AM
39190. Jenerator - 10/25/2008 9:11:46 AM
Palin is much prettier than that.f
39191. wonkers2 - 10/25/2008 9:37:04 AM
I detect a resemblance to Dick Cheney's twisted smile.
39192. jexster - 10/25/2008 10:22:00 AM
Huckabee Bachmann 2012
From the Newsweek Poll
Asked of Republicans
39193. iiibbb - 10/25/2008 10:31:31 AM
I win again Jex
I keep scooping you Jex.
Judge rejects Montco lawyer's bid to have Obama removed from ballot
By MICHAEL HINKELMAN
Philadelphia Daily News
hinkelm@phillynews.com 215-854-2656
A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.
Philip J. Berg alleged in a complaint filed in federal district court on Aug. 21 against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
Berg claimed that the Democratic presidential standardbearer is not even an American citizen but a citizen of Indonesia and therefore ineligible to be president.
He alleged that if Obama was permitted to run for president and subsequently found to be ineligible, he and other voters would be disenfranchised.
U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick had denied Berg's request for a temporary restraining order on Aug. 22 but had not ruled on the merits of the suit until yesterday.
Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg's complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24.
They said that Berg's claims were "ridiculous" and "patently false," that Berg had "no standing" to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.
Surrick agreed.
In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg's allegations of harm were "too vague and too attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters.
Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."
39194. jexster - 10/25/2008 10:48:05 AM
Oh BIG surprise there I3...As I pointed out just Googling the Goon revealed that the wacko didn't even bother to answer the motion to dismiss.
Now the suit's where Concerned lives, wher the sun don't shine
39195. jexster - 10/25/2008 10:49:56 AM
Wapo's lead editorial on http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/24/AR2008102402954.html?hpid=opinionsbox1 target=new>The ACORN Stunt - The McStain Threat to Our Democracy
About a stunt every 6 days since August 1 by my calculations...
That's the McStain Campaign in a nutshell or perhaps an ACORN?
39196. jexster - 10/25/2008 10:52:02 AM
I'd carve a J in Tucker Bounds any day!
Take his butt down to Silverlake...give him to David
39197. jexster - 10/25/2008 10:55:33 AM
Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion
31974
31977-79
31981

39198. jexster - 10/25/2008 10:55:47 AM
Racist filth
39199. jexster - 10/25/2008 10:56:42 AM
so cowed by the PC Nazis
Like Wonkers..he's turned from a white MAN into a white PINWORM
39200. jexster - 10/25/2008 10:58:06 AM
I DENOUNCE and REJECT Concerned for two years of racist, fascist lies
39201. jexster - 10/25/2008 11:03:07 AM
This is a pretty reliable poll. I suggest that OHIO fly in a supply of crystal meth from Wasilla, Crystal Capital of AK, and not plan on sleeping for 10 days
39202. jexster - 10/25/2008 11:05:36 AM
filmed in Opelousas Wonk
39203. jexster - 10/25/2008 11:14:05 AM
Politico
McStain can't control his HO....always been a weakness...that's how Ho Chi Minh turned him
39204. jexster - 10/25/2008 11:28:13 AM
Pollster.com's national average trend of polls has Obama at his largest margin to date - 9.0%
Dr. Wang's MetaMargin of state polls now 7.88%
The race has set in concrete as Charles Cook said a few days back and as I said two weeks ago.
39205. jexster - 10/25/2008 11:33:38 AM
My email is cloggin with Victory Party invites...one is at a Jazz Club in the Feel-mo (Fillmore to white people)...Free horse ovaries (wings? ribs?)...I'd go but I fear that thousands of niggers will be running wild in the streets looking for white meat to fondle, fuck and carve B's on.
39206. jexster - 10/25/2008 11:34:09 AM
And I don't have sexual relations with those people
39207. jexster - 10/25/2008 11:36:58 AM
39208. iiibbb - 10/25/2008 11:46:14 AM
Wassup!
39209. jexster - 10/25/2008 11:51:58 AM
LOL
39210. jexster - 10/25/2008 11:54:13 AM
TRUE
39211. iiibbb - 10/25/2008 12:07:32 PM
That is the funniest youtube video I've seen in a while.
39212. jexster - 10/25/2008 12:43:02 PM
Two hot looking FAGGOTS prolly from HOLLYWOOD just parked a brand new fire engine red Ferrari convertible outside my window
My keys feel like a little class war
ADAM and EVE not ADAM AND STEVE
The Ferrari California
Don't think I'll have that much time
39213. jexster - 10/25/2008 12:49:20 PM
Raise those faggots taxes NOW
The new Ferrari California
39214. jexster - 10/25/2008 12:54:14 PM
Poofters
39215. jexster - 10/25/2008 12:58:56 PM
turd burgulars!
39216. alistairConnor - 10/25/2008 1:11:33 PM
Here's my girlfriend Caroline, in character as Kristin, age 52, looking for work, and finding Obama
(she's the blonde in the foreground... thursday in Indianapolis)
39217. jexster - 10/25/2008 1:13:21 PM
She's the street theater lady!
Close to Capn Dirty she is
TOO CLOSE
39218. alistairConnor - 10/25/2008 1:17:55 PM
She played usher for Michelle on Friday,
and got a kiss from the future First Lady
Raphael missed the photo!! (arsehole)
39219. jexster - 10/25/2008 1:35:47 PM
Much too close to the French to be trusted
Wish I hadn't already voted
39220. jexster - 10/25/2008 1:43:39 PM
I just heard a bit of O in RenO slamming McStain for his vicious attacks on President Bush
They say he's begun his Closing Argument
I hope he'll get around to my pet peeve at some point
The Grotesque McDeformities
Imagine looking at this for FOUR YEARS and at his age, this is as good as it gets
39221. jexster - 10/25/2008 2:43:54 PM
Rocky Mountain High
For the Negro
CO-Pres
Oct 25 Rocky Mtn. News
Obama (D) 52%, McCain (R) 40%
39222. David Ehrenstein - 10/25/2008 2:54:26 PM
Latest FaBlog: Fait Diver -- Diva
39223. jexster - 10/25/2008 3:14:22 PM
Rebel Yell
My new battle cry
On the Road: Big Stone Gap, Virginia
39224. wonkers2 - 10/25/2008 3:25:13 PM
Editor
New York Times
In your otherwise thoughtful and convincing editorial supporting Barack Obama you referred to Bush's neglect of the "necessary war". I wish you would explain why the war in Afghanistan is "necessary." As I recall, the Times also supported our reckless, costly and UNNECESSARY invasion of Iraq. And it worries me that the Times and other commentators as well as Obama and McCain appear to accept without question the assumption that the the war in Afghanistan is more likely to produce a desirable result any more than the war in Iraq. It looks to me like we are jumping out of the Iraq frying pan into the fire in Afghanistan. When will we ever learn?
W2
39225. jexster - 10/25/2008 3:29:52 PM
Time for McStain-Piglin to Come Clean About Pittsburgh Race-baiting
39226. judithathome - 10/25/2008 3:49:39 PM
Nice letter to the editor, Wonk!
39227. jexster - 10/25/2008 4:12:15 PM
I think Honkers should mind his own business.
His fucked up company and his Failed State
He's always sticking his nose where it doesn't belong
Caroline's been duly warned
GM Drives SUV's Off Cliff
The General on the Brink of Bankruptcy
39228. jexster - 10/25/2008 4:18:47 PM
I suggest Wonkers get off his butt and drive down to give OHIO a hand..stop wasting the time of the NyT Editors
39229. jexster - 10/25/2008 4:20:51 PM
INDIANAPOLIS—When Barack Obama took the stage at noon at the end of Obelisk Square downtown, he faced two city blocks of people, stretching for almost one-quarter of a mile between rows of trees turning from green to yellow. These weren't just people who'd stopped by on their way to get a sandwich. Going to political rallies these days is a chore. You have to go through Secret Service screening, and once you've entered the fenced-in area, you can't go far. Still, some people arrived at 4:30 a.m., wearing their Colts knit caps and carrying blankets, to get a good spot and wait for nearly eight hours.
Obama's October Surprise
With less than two weeks to go, he's competitive in Indiana.

39230. jexster - 10/25/2008 4:35:39 PM
As John McStain and Sarah Piglin (gone rogue) savage our President...
America says ENOUGH! ASSEZ! BASTA!
soaring anxiety about the country's direction and a massive shift of independent voters into the Democratic column.
Rocky Mountain News
39231. judithathome - 10/25/2008 4:51:30 PM
You'd think McCain and Palin would wake up and smell the coffee...what they are doing is NOT working.
39232. jexster - 10/25/2008 5:11:59 PM
39233. jexster - 10/25/2008 6:53:32 PM
Arizona's sick of The Deformities too
KOS
Myers Research (D) & Grove Insight (D). 10/23-24. Likely voters. MoE 4% (No trend lines)
Likely voters
McCain (R) 44
Obama (D) 40
Early voters (34% of the sample)
McCain (R) 46
Obama (D) 47
The sample was 40 percent Republican, 33 Democratic, and 26 percent independent. ASU has its own survey coming Monday, and they've hinted at similar results.
39234. jexster - 10/25/2008 6:55:20 PM

39235. jexster - 10/25/2008 8:05:25 PM
McStain Adviser - "She's a Diva"
A second McCain source tells CNN Palin appears to now be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.
“She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone,” said this McCain adviser, “she does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else. Also she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: divas trust only unto themselves as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom.”
If "diva" is a synonym for sociopath...
39236. jexster - 10/25/2008 8:21:28 PM
David Frum: Time for Triage
Leading Conservative Urges Republicans to Dump McPiglin Save Senate Seats
I said this last week
39237. jexster - 10/25/2008 8:57:25 PM
Fear and Anger Grip GOP Activists
Politico Reports McStain-Piglin Rallies Turn into Hatefests
39238. jexster - 10/25/2008 9:00:56 PM
For the past year Concerned has done nothing but spew hate against Obama...gutless to be sure but unmistakable
Las Vegas Sun
Anger, Fear and Racism Follow Palin to Nevada
(Video)
39239. iiibbb - 10/25/2008 11:22:23 PM
Message # 39236
Jex... that article is FAIL from the start.
By David Frum
Sunday, October 26, 2008; Page B01
There are many ways to lose a presidential election. John McCain is losing in a way that threatens to take the entire Republican Party down with him.
A year ago, the Arizona senator's team made a crucial strategic decision. McCain would run on his (impressive) personal biography. On policy, he'd hew mostly to conservative orthodoxy, with a few deviations -- most notably, his support for legalization for illegal immigrants. But this strategy wasn't yielding results in the general election. So in August, McCain tried a bold new gambit: He would reach out to independents and women with an exciting and unexpected vice presidential choice.
Run on personal biography... I believe that.
Hew to conservative orthodoxy... I think he did that, but that was mistake 1.
Palin... a reach out to independents and women? Are you kidding me? He was reaching to the base, and believed the Hillary/PUMA wave would carry him in.
But really... McCains strategy wasn't too awful. If it weren't for this economic mess I think it would be a very close race.
Nope... what killed the Republicans are the Republicans. In the past 10 years they have completely discarded the brand for religious-wingnuttery, war-mongering, and pandering to the super-wealthy. Independents like me are over that.
Does this mean the end of the Republican party? It depends on the Republican party and it depends on the Democratic party. The Democrats would be well-advised to stick pretty close to their mandate (economy, health care, war) over the next 4-8 years before they start pulling up their pet projects (gun control). It will take 8-12 years for a more-permanent capture of moderates-independents.
Otherwise in 4 years, if Obama does a bad job, or in 8 years if Obama does a good job... we're going to go through all of this again.
39240. iiibbb - 10/25/2008 11:23:49 PM
It also depends on whether the Republicans reform into something more right... or more center.
The way some of them talk... like Frum... they want to go more right. If they do that, then you can count on my vote for several more cycles.
39241. arkymalarky - 10/25/2008 11:40:54 PM
This seems like a golden opportunity for Libertarians, if they could bend any from their orthodoxy.
39242. iiibbb - 10/26/2008 12:01:26 AM
The only thing Libertarians have right is social policy.
When it comes to economics, the environment, education, health care, minimalist gov't... they're flakes.
But as you say... if they could bend from their orthodoxy they would have a lot of peoples' ears.
I could see them going for something like the flat tax% (or modified flat tax so it isn't quite so regressive). They'd want to balance the budget, but I'm learning that isn't always the best thing...although I think the overspending lately isn't right either.
I dunno... The Dems have as much of an opportunity as the Libertarians... they just have to decide if they want to do things to keep the independents.
39243. jexster - 10/26/2008 9:15:15 AM
Grand Old Macaca Moments: Allen-McCain-Palin Politics 2008
Rich
39244. wonkers2 - 10/26/2008 9:30:27 AM
John Cleese on Palin the ParrotPalin is a parrot
39245. jexster - 10/26/2008 9:47:02 AM
Anchorage Daily News:Obama For President
Also nailed this at HuffPo
Republican fears of historic Obama landslide unleash civil war for the future of the party
[Telegraph UK]
Senior Republicans believe that John McCain is doomed to a landslide defeat which will hand Barack Obama more political power than any president in a generation.
39246. jexster - 10/26/2008 10:01:36 AM
Piglin called Obama a Communist yesterday. So he's a radical islamist, a terrorist, a Nazi, a Kenyan, an Arab, all the while managing to hide his true identity behind the mask of a center-left US politician
That be one wiley negro
39247. wonkers2 - 10/26/2008 10:35:32 AM
John Cleese on Palin the Parrot: Cleese take on Palin
39248. Jenerator - 10/26/2008 11:15:44 AM
The Democratic smear campaign is still hard at work in here. Here is how you all treat ALL Republicans.
First, you categorize them as stooooopid. Sure they're likely educated at the same institutions that your Democratic couterparts are, but they cheated their way through college, because they're so stoooopid. And that makes them immoral. So what if they didn't actually cheat their way into Harvard or Stanford, the fact they're Republican means they *probably* did, therefore, they are immoral (and still stooopid).
How Republicans dress or look is always scrutinized and assumed to be outlandish, over the top, out of style or ugly - no matter how trivial the element is. If a Republican has spider veins, they're disgusting. If a Republican uses moisturizer on their dry skin - that selection is subject for banter on MSNBC. In other words, any attempt by any Republican to look professional is criticized as too much or not enough. Women moreso then men face this type of criticism.
After they have been labeled as stupid and immoral, they're deemed to be divas or despots, supposedly above everyone else - acting purely in their own interests. So what they have support staff and managers - they must be labeled as the type that is purely self-serving.
When that starts to get old, the Dems then label them as sociopaths or psychopaths.
It doesn't stop there, though.
To recap - Republicans are stupid, immoral, physically ugly, out only for themselves and sociopathic.
Right Jexster?
39249. jexster - 10/26/2008 11:29:53 AM
Nine Days Left: Welcome to Gainesville Tejas
Republicans fear long exile in the wilderness
In America's conservative heartland the talk now is not just of a win for Obama. With the Democrats poised for gains in the Senate and the House, moderate Republicans fear a wipeout that would leave their party in the grip of evangelicals increasingly out of touch with the public. Could the country be on the brink of change as deep as that ushered in by Reagan?

39250. jexster - 10/26/2008 11:37:12 AM
Featured in the article
Prestonwood Babdiss,
Plano n Prosper Tejas
Where Judith Wursheeps
39251. wonkers2 - 10/26/2008 11:41:34 AM
If the shoe fits! :-)
39252. jexster - 10/26/2008 11:44:55 AM
From Kingfisher, Oklahoma, to Gainesville, Texas, and far beyond the mood is sour. 'I guess it looks like Obama is going to make it,' said Farquhar. 'But no one is happy about it. It is going to be beyond just having another tax-and-spend liberal in office.'
Kingfisher? Robert has some kin up thar ah harh.
39253. jexster - 10/26/2008 11:46:05 AM
Whar do yew wursheep Honkrs?
First Temple of Judaizers?
39254. anomie - 10/26/2008 11:52:08 AM
Republicans are certainly stupid. No argument there. Even Yale Republicans are stupid. It becomes more obvious as the results of their stupid policies come home to roost. Or maybe when they trash the idea of fruitfly research that may end up saving countless lives. I could go on.
As to the skin lotions and such, and attempting to look professional and such, I watch MSNBC a lot and all I remember is something about 150K being spent on Palin's designer clothes, while she tries to portray a working-jane personna.
The diva slam was made against Palin by.....HER FELLOW REPUBLICANS!
The shoe does indeed fit.
39255. jexster - 10/26/2008 12:11:11 PM
Obama Seizes On "Common Philosophy" Remark

39256. jexster - 10/26/2008 12:13:49 PM
Hell Anomie the DIVA charge...that was leveled by a MCCAIN CAMPAIGN ADVISER
And it went beyond Diva...the woman according to this source can't even maintain basic human relationships of trust with her own family
39257. jexster - 10/26/2008 12:22:28 PM
39258. jexster - 10/26/2008 12:40:52 PM
Palin as President
Move the pointer around to different objects (including Palin), and when the "hand" appears as the cursor, left click. Try the door, the globe, and other things on the left multiple times (to close the door, click the door a second time).
Don't forget the RED PHONE.
This will be updated daily between now and the election ...
ENJOY
39259. jexster - 10/26/2008 1:03:20 PM
Rove: GOP finger-pointing 'sad'
McCain said that he can "guarantee" a win on Nov. 4.
Sad indeed
39260. jexster - 10/26/2008 1:14:37 PM
ExBush Undersecty of State endorses Obama Foreign Policy
39261. jexster - 10/26/2008 1:19:51 PM

39262. jexster - 10/26/2008 1:32:56 PM
Fashion Victim: Caribou Barbie Discusses Clothes At Length
Shows Off $35 Wedding Ring
Real high caliber leadership material there
39263. jexster - 10/26/2008 1:38:45 PM
Of Rats on Sinking Ships
Mentum Kisses Obama's Black Ass

39264. jexster - 10/26/2008 5:36:49 PM
Barack Obama may lack the stones to talk about my issue but not the American Conservative my friends...
A little straight talk on The Deformities
McCain Suffers from PTSD and Traumatic Brain Injury
39265. alistairConnor - 10/26/2008 5:55:46 PM
The French crew do ... what's her name? Nipal? Lapin?
Tomorrow, they will be with Barack in Ohio for his "closing address" thing.
For Halloween, they will be with McCain and Ahnold Schwartzenegger in Cleveland. That should be quite a sight.
39266. jexster - 10/26/2008 6:20:08 PM
DENVER – Back in the city where he claimed history, Barack Obama presided Sunday over a Colorado rally so enormous and energetic that even he seemed surprised at his following.
"Goodness gracious," Obama said as he took the stage and peered at the human mass in Denver's Civic Center Park. Smelling victory, Obama supporters were everywhere, packing even the steps of the state Capitol way off in the distance.
In a campaign of huge Obama rallies across the United States, the Denver gathering topped them all. Local police put the crowd estimate at "well over" 100,000 people.
Don't forget the Barack Obama Show this Wed all networks
39267. jexster - 10/26/2008 6:21:08 PM
Why in the name of God do they want to be in Ohio! What a horrid place
39268. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/26/2008 7:04:47 PM
The Obama Cabinet . . .
39269. jexster - 10/26/2008 7:31:22 PM
39270. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/26/2008 8:03:46 PM
39271. wonkers2 - 10/26/2008 8:10:44 PM
Downfall of the Republican Party
39272. jexster - 10/26/2008 8:19:38 PM
Great movie
Sad ending
39273. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/26/2008 10:34:20 PM
39274. jexster - 10/27/2008 9:51:09 AM
Bush, the Economy and Palin Drag McStain Down in VA
WaPo Poll Gives Obama an 8 Point Lead
Looks like an 7-10 point win there. Polls all fairly stable in the Old Dominion
39275. jexster - 10/27/2008 10:07:54 AM
Chuck Todd Projects Obama Victory Without Any Tossup States
Chuckie come lately
39276. jexster - 10/27/2008 10:13:02 AM
Where the road ends for John McCain
His Straight Talk Express bolted out of New Hampshire eight years ago. Now the candidate is running on empty.
Spent the weekend trying to throw Bush under his bus, today's blame game target is the Congreff he's served in for 26 years
39277. iiibbb - 10/27/2008 10:14:32 AM
Well... I'm just about to officially give up on the Republican party.
I've been on another board trying to explain to them the reasons they've lost the middle. They don't want to hear about it. They are uninterested in looking at the choices their party has made. They want to blame Democrats for the entirety of the mess.
I have no great love for Democrats, but they've been adjusting their game.
Adapt or die, as the saying goes.
39278. jexster - 10/27/2008 10:15:35 AM
We love you I3
Gay or God's Plan?
39279. jexster - 10/27/2008 10:17:03 AM
I am a BIG fan of post game visits to the Losers' Lockerroom and am going to need something to occupy my time next week...any suggestions?

39280. jexster - 10/27/2008 10:46:59 AM
TPMtv: Sunday Show Roundup: Is Palin bailin' from a campaign that's failin'?
Sheer poetry
39281. jexster - 10/27/2008 10:53:34 AM
Should have vetted the pig before they bought all that expensive pig lip gloss at Sak's
39282. jexster - 10/27/2008 10:57:35 AM
Sen LindZit applauds The Deformities

39283. iiibbb - 10/27/2008 11:07:13 AM
What if Gay is God's plan Jex.
I will hand it to the Mote... there are few places where one can discuss politics (hotly even) without it devolving into a flame war. I think it's because it's a small group, but I also think the people in here are of a certain quality.
Almost makes me want to meet you.
39284. iiibbb - 10/27/2008 11:08:15 AM
Actually... I would even be willing to meet you...
Thought, there is something to be said for having anonymous friends you can't piss off.
39285. jexster - 10/27/2008 11:08:19 AM
While some Republicans said they still had hope that Mr. McCain could pull this out, there were signs of growing concern that Mr. McCain and the party were heading for a big defeat that could leave the party weakened for years.
“Any serious Republican has to ask, ‘How did we get into this mess?’ ” Newt Gingrich, the former Republican house speaker, said in an interview. “It’s not where we should be, and it’s not where we had to be. This was not bad luck.”
Seems that any serious republican should be defending the record of the Republicans who controlled Congress for 10 of the past 12 years against McCain's attacks, likewise President Bush, our Dear Leader and likewise Gov PitMoose all victims of scurrilous and desperate slander from Old Yellow Stain these past several days
Are there no SERIOUS Republicans around here?
39286. jexster - 10/27/2008 11:20:44 AM
I think Honkers will concede that meeting was a MAJOR error!
When he sat there at the St Francis Yacht Club and said he'd "been jewed", I knew I had him
39287. jexster - 10/27/2008 11:22:25 AM
Speaking of flame, where's Concerned?
I guess all SERIOUS republicans are face carving for Halloween eh?
39288. jexster - 10/27/2008 12:57:11 PM
Sarah Palin tells Israeli Ambassador "we look forward to .. working with your Jewish agency."
39289. jexster - 10/27/2008 1:14:43 PM
Dr. Wang pledicts eRection outcomes for CongLess
39290. jexster - 10/27/2008 1:21:31 PM
As the end nears and the lipstick bills pile up, more and more republicans question Piglin pick
Better he'd picked his nose
39291. jexster - 10/27/2008 1:27:14 PM
McStain a Baby Killer - NH GOP Chair
There may be plenty of time for dissection later, and there are too many R’s doing that now,” said Mr. Cullen, the New Hampshire party chairman.
He put himself in the camp, not of questioning Ms. Palin’s selection, but “of those who question how the McCain team handled Palin after the convention, allowing her public image to get defined by others in a way that may prove permanent, possibly destroying a promising national political figure in vitro
39292. jexster - 10/27/2008 1:35:18 PM
The Shame...the shame

39293. jexster - 10/27/2008 2:22:21 PM
McCain Campaign Soaked by Stories of Palin Strife
39294. jexster - 10/27/2008 2:41:49 PM
The Reverse Bradley Effect
Poll Shows Obama Winning Early FL voting in landslide
39295. jexster - 10/27/2008 2:46:59 PM
We MUST catch New York
CA-Pres
Oct 27 Rasmussen
Obama (D) 61%, McCain (R) 34%
NY-Pres
Oct 24 Marist
Obama (D) 65%, McCain (R) 29%
39296. jexster - 10/27/2008 3:01:03 PM
Piglin's Papa goes down
STEVENS GUILTY ON TWO COUNTS AT LEAST
39297. jexster - 10/27/2008 3:02:31 PM
MAKE THAT ALL SEVEN COUNTS
39298. jexster - 10/27/2008 3:03:04 PM
The King of Pork and his Pig Princess
39299. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/27/2008 3:04:41 PM
Halle-FUCKIN'_lujah!!!
39300. jexster - 10/27/2008 3:12:09 PM
So Miss MooseTwat..are you going to vote for Begich???
39301. jexster - 10/27/2008 3:15:12 PM
Any republicans out there planning to carve their faces?
Click here
Josh, Allie & Dexter Hart (Little Rock, AR)
39302. jexster - 10/27/2008 3:32:48 PM
AP: ATF Uncovers Plot to Assassinate Obama, Kill 102 Blacks
Guess we know where Concerned is
39303. jexster - 10/27/2008 4:10:13 PM
Senator Piglin

39304. jexster - 10/27/2008 4:16:40 PM
I've been making a few calls now and then to FL,OH, and NV from the mybo phone bank
Just got a phone message thanking me for doing this and asking me to make 30 more this week
The ground game will bury them
39305. wonkers2 - 10/27/2008 4:35:59 PM
39306. iiibbb - 10/27/2008 5:07:08 PM
I wonder if that skinhead realized that picture made him look like he was wearing lipstick and eye makeup.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
39307. jexster - 10/27/2008 5:49:30 PM
One of Arky's students!
This undated photo obtained from a MySpace webpage shows Daniel Cowart, 20 of Bells, Tenn. holding a weapon. Cowart, 20, and Paul Schlesselman, 18, of t Helena, Ark., being held without bond for their alleged involvement in an assassination plot.
That boy's God's plan if you axe me!
39308. jexster - 10/27/2008 5:51:03 PM
Luv those Sarah Palin glasses
39309. iiibbb - 10/27/2008 5:53:17 PM
He's gay... Nazi + Makeup
39310. jexster - 10/27/2008 5:55:53 PM
What kinda weapon he holdin? Seems a little large...or he a little small
39311. robertjayb - 10/27/2008 6:02:23 PM
Old "Firstists with the Mostest" being disrespected...
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — Nathan Bedford Forrest was a millionaire slave trader, a ruthless Confederate general, an early Ku Klux Klan leader — and the namesake of what is now a majority African-American high school.
After almost a two-year delay, the Duval County School Board next week will consider whether to change the name of Nathan Bedford Forrest High School to Firestone High, after the street it sits on. The board joins other Southern districts that have hotly debated whether to strip Confederate leaders' names from schools and other buildings.
39312. jexster - 10/27/2008 6:12:44 PM
Chris Matthews just told Charles Cook "I study every word you say"
Who does he think taught him to talk?
39313. iiibbb - 10/27/2008 6:13:39 PM
Message # 39310
It is some kind of Heckler and Koch... looks like a .308
39314. iiibbb - 10/27/2008 6:16:44 PM
39315. jexster - 10/27/2008 6:18:58 PM
I truly admire Nathan Bedford Forrest. The Blue Terror he fought against so valiantly back in Tenn. still scars our sons today
see 39307
39316. jexster - 10/27/2008 6:20:23 PM
Love this gun? Buy it - without any permit or paperwork!
G3 mini - Airsoft Replica - fires 6mm plastic BBs
That ain't no bb gun
That's a manly weapon!
39317. jexster - 10/27/2008 6:42:51 PM
Cook says it's never over til it's over but this is as over as it gets before that
39318. jexster - 10/27/2008 6:54:16 PM
Piglin Stands Behind Uncle Ted
39319. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/27/2008 7:10:57 PM
Vets go after Saxby in Georgia . . .
39320. jexster - 10/27/2008 7:33:04 PM
Damn they took Cowart's myspace page down.
Unglück in life
Unglück in love
39321. jexster - 10/27/2008 8:26:15 PM
The Republican shipwreck
The mighty right-wing Titanic is sinking, and McCain is desperately blaming Bush. But the problem isn't the captain -- it's the ship.
The modern conservative movement is dying in front of our eyes, and its death throes aren't pretty. As John McCain heads for likely defeat, the GOP is eating itself. Right-wing politicians and pundits who never criticized Bush in eight years are suddenly jumping ship like rats, while bitter-end loyalists angrily accuse them of being "pathetically opportunistic." After months of veering from one tactic to the next, McCain has finally settled on one message for his campaign, but it's absurd: claiming that the party whose signature is tax cuts for the rich is really on the side of Joe the Plumber.
Meanwhile, 3.1 million real Joe the Plumbers across America are sending Barack Obama hundreds of millions of dollars, a torrent of cash that is helping to flush the GOP down the national toilet.
"Not pretty"???
Beauty's in the eye of the beholder.
39322. jexster - 10/28/2008 4:34:08 AM
Doctor of eRections Sam Wang has a NyT OpEd on the Neuroscience of being undecided
39323. jexster - 10/28/2008 4:55:03 AM

39324. jexster - 10/28/2008 5:13:29 AM
Republican Culture of Corruption 2008: The Sarah and Ted Show
39325. Jenerator - 10/28/2008 8:23:39 AM
From worldcrossing

39326. iiibbb - 10/28/2008 8:32:41 AM
Perhaps the most disgusting plays the Conservatives have made (and not all, but some) are the one that 1) Obama is not a citizen, and 2) Obama is a terrorist/supports terror, and 3) Obama is a Muslim.
It's sick, deluded, and I find that I cannot have a discussion about actual policy with someone who buys into this crap.
39327. Jenerator - 10/28/2008 8:34:01 AM
I don't think he's Muslim, fwiw.
39328. Jenerator - 10/28/2008 8:34:56 AM
He's kaffir in the eyes of the religious zealots, but he's seen as approachable by the secular radicals. That's not good.
39329. Jenerator - 10/28/2008 8:38:43 AM
These are likely the pictures that have caused a lot of people to doubt his Christian claim:

39330. iiibbb - 10/28/2008 9:10:46 AM
Sometimes a picture isn't worth 1000 words...
or people have no idea which 1000 go with which picture.
The anti-American claims about Obama have completely undermined the "conservatives'" credibility.
Conservatism is a shell of what it was 20 yrs ago when it had principles.
39331. iiibbb - 10/28/2008 9:13:50 AM
Did you notice Obama did wear a flag pin to all of the debates, and McCain failed to wear one?
And there is nothing wrong with Obama being in touch with his heritage. I actually admire it. My grandmother is a naturalized citizen (Finland). We fly a Finnish flag at our beach vacation every year to honor her (and help find the house). Does that mean I can't run for office?
39332. wonkers2 - 10/28/2008 9:17:31 AM
Sounds pretty suspicious to me!
39333. iiibbb - 10/28/2008 9:33:46 AM
I think someone would eventually find my rantings on the internet and that would be enough... although I'm not ashamed of anything I've ever posted anywhere.
39334. iiibbb - 10/28/2008 9:33:54 AM
39335. iiibbb - 10/28/2008 9:35:21 AM
What's worse about conservatism being a shell... is that a large proportion of conservatives are in denial about it.
39336. iiibbb - 10/28/2008 9:36:40 AM
I'm not in denial... but it's sad to watch.
I sure hope the Democrats don't let me down. I won't know what to do anymore.
39337. jexster - 10/28/2008 9:42:37 AM
She doesn't think he's a muslim and then proceeds to post all the viral racist shit...
39338. jexster - 10/28/2008 9:44:17 AM
We should send some volunteers out to do some punkin carvin in Jen's naighborhood
39339. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/28/2008 9:52:13 AM
This short video shows another Republi-Thug's true nature . . .
A couple of staffers from North Carolina congressional candidate Judy Feder's campaign tried to approach her opponent, Republican Rep. Frank Wolf, the other day to ask him to make clear his position on health care (something Wolf has refused to do so far) and, rather than talk them, stood by as members of his own staff assaulted one staffer with a cane, while a couple of others backed the second staffer against a wall.
Temperatures always rise towards the end of the campaign season, but this year, the prospect of massive GOP losses looms large in the minds of Republicans, and they're obviously lashing out in a lot of ways. Ugly rhetoric is one. This is another.
39340. Jenerator - 10/28/2008 9:54:31 AM
What 'viral shit' did I post? I posted actual pictures that have caused people to doubt Obama's Christian claim. They are real pictures and they are the cause for some people to doubt Obama's Christianity.
39341. Jenerator - 10/28/2008 9:57:06 AM
We should send some volunteers out to do some punkin carvin in Jen's naighborhood
I have no idea what sort of veiled threat this is supposed to be, but I will take it for face value. Please send some volunteers to my house specifically. None of my pumpkins are carved and Halloween is in a few days. Can you have them make one a toothy smiling pumpkin? The other should be a scary pumpkin. The biggest one we would like to have something cool carved in it, like a skull and crossbones or something like that.
Send them quick!
39342. Jenerator - 10/28/2008 9:58:15 AM
I'll say it again. I don't think Obama is a Muslim. I think he is sympathetic toward Islam, and he is willing to work with Islamists that most people condemn, but I do not think that he is a Muslim.
39343. jexster - 10/28/2008 10:03:11 AM
Poll: Obama Ahead in Ohio, Way Up On Early Votes
A new SurveyUSA poll gives Barack Obama a 49%-45% lead in Ohio, with a ±3.9% margin of error. The key number from the internals is that 22% of the likely electorate has already voted, and they've gone for Obama by a 56%-39% margin, with the two candidates tied 47%-47% among the remaining 78%.
Ground game baby!
O!ur New O!ld GlO!ry - Long may she wave
Land of free
Home of brave
amen
39344. jexster - 10/28/2008 10:23:32 AM
As the race comes to a close, and late-deciders decide, the various poll averages and regression estimators become far more reliable indicators of what is really going down as against any single poll.
They also tend to converge
Sam Wang's Meta-Analysis of State polls - Obama +7.2
Steve Lombardo's average 7.6
Pollster.com's Trend Analysis +7
Obama's margins are nearly twice that of the late deciders, a group which in recent cycles isn't very large and has broken more for democrats in the past few cycles
That's why we're seeing so many pre-post mortems for McSame. No surprise there.
I still can't get over how much internecine war has broken out among republicans though. Even Piglin referred to her "Camp" and John McLame's "camp" yesterday.
At least we democrats have the good sense to form up our circular firing squads on the day AFTER the eRection
39345. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/28/2008 10:24:17 AM
JOE THE MORON -- OPIATE OF THE ASSES
39346. jexster - 10/28/2008 10:27:25 AM
Consumer Confidence Drops to Lowest Mark on Record
39347. jexster - 10/28/2008 10:32:03 AM
Big surprise - McShame just threw Uncle Ted under the DoubleTalk Express
Sarah's still not responding to questions about whether she'll vote for the King of Pork
39348. jexster - 10/28/2008 10:33:05 AM
The same viral shit we've seen for months now.
Are you really that slow?
39349. jexster - 10/28/2008 10:35:53 AM
I can't get over cowardly racists like Jen...they think they are so clever...race-baiting and think we don't know that's what they're doing
Just like the Republican official in Sacramento who sent out a mailer with Obama's face surrounded by ribs,fried chicken and watermellon
"Racist? I just thought it was food"
39350. jexster - 10/28/2008 10:39:22 AM
Or does Texas just have the nation's dumbest crackers?
Like Ashley the Aggie

39351. jexster - 10/28/2008 10:41:45 AM
Oh BTW Maybelle, you don't know what "viral" means either
39352. judithathome - 10/28/2008 10:45:47 AM
I got an email from my sister this morning asking me about the Obama/Khalidi connection...she asked if this story had legs.
I sent her back the advice to ignore ANYTHING she heard in the next 6 days because the desperation of the McCain campaign is reaching epic proportions.
39353. judithathome - 10/28/2008 10:49:13 AM
By the way, Jen, that first picture you posted is photoshopped....look at the way the turban is situated...it was pasted on to a headshot of Obama.
That would be like me posting a picture of your head pasted on to the body of Roseanne Barr.
39354. jexster - 10/28/2008 10:53:19 AM
Wonker's inept Failed Gov Grizzly Grenholm reported yesterday that once McStain pulled out of the Failed State, the white trash racists came in with shit just as you describe judith
That's what "viral" means BTW
Things have gotten so desperately foul at the McStain campaign that dozens of his robocallers in IN walked out rather than read his vile scripts
FYI...The campaign wants to know about that under the radar crap if you are so inclined
39355. jexster - 10/28/2008 10:55:18 AM
Yesterday Charles Cook said that this race was as over as it gets before it actually is over
Apparently this has left the 24/7 news nets with something of an entertainment problem
News shows should probably come with a spoiler alert: the following program contains images and language that seem to jump to a foregone conclusion.
Cable news and network anchors are not saying point-blank that the election is over. Instead they are saying, “We’re not saying it’s over ...” with a “but” that speaks volumes
39356. jexster - 10/28/2008 11:04:32 AM
Obama Now Leads McSame in 10 Bush States, today's Red battlegrounds
39357. jexster - 10/28/2008 11:10:37 AM
The Pew poll confirms what a few others have now...Obama is beating McStain by landslide margins in early voting...banked votes are so much better than some pollster's "likely votes"
Makes it easier to walk precincts on eRection day too
39358. jexster - 10/28/2008 11:13:21 AM
FL now "left leaning"..Even GOPer's concede Obama edge
No wonder Crist went to DisneyWorld instead of that McLame rally
39359. jexster - 10/28/2008 11:21:52 AM
Not Over til it's Oveur
PoliticoPoll - Obama +9 in PA, +8 in CO
39360. jexster - 10/28/2008 11:25:50 AM
After the Barack Obama Show, you can see him on the Daily Show
39361. jexster - 10/28/2008 11:57:58 AM
ABC finally offered Barack Obama's camp the 8 p.m. half-hour in its Wednesday lineup for his campaign-related program -- which will air at that time on the other major broadcast networks.
But, in an ironic twist, the Democratic presidential candidate's campaign passed on ABC's offer, saying it has allocated the funds elsewhere.

39362. jexster - 10/28/2008 12:00:02 PM
Another White Flag of Surrender
Romney Concedes Obama Win "Likely"
39363. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/28/2008 12:06:50 PM

39364. wonkers2 - 10/28/2008 12:41:41 PM
W2 has Michigan under control. On his block Obama has a two to one edge in yard signs.
39365. iiibbb - 10/28/2008 1:06:43 PM
The rise of the Obamacons
Perhaps posted before... but a good read.
Best quote
For their part, hard-core Republicans are handling their party’s travails abysmally, retreating into elite-bashing populism and denouncing the Obamacons as “rats” who are deserting a sinking ship. If the Republican Party continues to think that the problem lies with the rats, rather than the seaworthiness of the ship, then the Obamacons are here to stay.
39366. jexster - 10/28/2008 2:37:57 PM
Tsunami Warning
39367. jexster - 10/28/2008 2:42:48 PM
Obama's Closing Argument
39368. jexster - 10/28/2008 2:46:34 PM
39365
hehehe

39369. jexster - 10/28/2008 2:48:38 PM
Anyone seen "W"
I can't bring myself to look at that fartard anymore
At least not until it Netflixes
39370. jexster - 10/28/2008 2:52:42 PM
The Economist
The rise of the Obamacons is more than a reaction against Mr Bush’s remodeling of the Republican Party and Mr McCain’s desperation: there were plenty of disillusioned Republicans in 2004 who did not warm to John Kerry. It is also a positive verdict on Mr Obama. For many conservatives, Mr Obama embodies qualities that their party has abandoned: pragmatism, competence and respect for the head rather than the heart. Mr Obama’s calm and collected response to the turmoil on Wall Street contrasted sharply with Mr McCain’s grandstanding.
39371. jexster - 10/28/2008 2:58:24 PM
I voted on October 6..seems like an eternity ago
Seems like it's time to begin the 2012 campaign


39372. jexster - 10/28/2008 3:01:07 PM
The new GOP Motto
Everyone from McSame to the Prosper Tejas constable candidate's using it
Everyone else is going to lose so vote for me
39373. alistairConnor - 10/28/2008 3:03:12 PM
Fuck!
39374. jexster - 10/28/2008 3:03:44 PM
With Obama wiping McStain by landslide margins, Charlie "I'm-going-to-DisneyWorld" Crist extends early voting in FL
39375. jexster - 10/28/2008 3:05:21 PM
Tim Roemer..on MSNBC now..."Obama foreign policy adviser"
My ticket to ride!
39376. alistairConnor - 10/28/2008 3:07:37 PM
Fuck![continued]
I'm pleased, and rather stunned, to announce that my girlfriend Caroline, after kissing Michelle Obama last Friday, had a conversation with Barack yesterday in Canton, Ohio.
Course, her husband the photographer was a couple of hundred yards back and missed the fikkin foto.
39377. jexster - 10/28/2008 3:13:35 PM
A GOP Congressman from VA hit a Demo video tracker with his cane, now some old McCracker's being held on charges of felonious assault for shooting some teenage bucks trying to steal his McStain sign
I have it on good authority that W2 has been doing the same in the Failed State..but then again, he's part Injun, part Negro, part Jew
39378. jexster - 10/28/2008 3:15:38 PM
So tell us AC...does she agree
Obama is the greatest Negro in world history?
39379. jexster - 10/28/2008 3:17:59 PM
Now which Cornpone Cracker Pinworm has said THIS 549 times???
39380. alistairConnor - 10/28/2008 3:18:34 PM
Quick translation of Caroline's blog post
"Thanks to the badge that I kept from Michelle Obama's meeting, I managed to infiltrate the volunteers, under the very noses of the FBI agents in charge of security. Having noticed that the people with a yellow invitation were allowed into the front rows, I got busy escorting them to their places : all the VIPs, the best activists, the elderly, and the handicapped, who had the yellow credentials. Then I hung around among them during Barack Obama's speech. Thusly, after the meeting, when he came to meet the public of the front rows, I managed to exchange a few words with him. He seemed a little bit astonished when I told him that his candidacy raised a lot of hope in France and in Europe. As for his speech (magnificent), I'm going to post it here."

39381. jexster - 10/28/2008 3:29:02 PM
That's all we need
Next thing you know McStain will be robocalling about French socialist infiltration of the Obama Camp
39382. jexster - 10/28/2008 3:35:32 PM
When they arrest the terrorist, and they will, she should know that she will be in the custody of the SECRET SERVICE not the FBI
Not that it will make any difference in the final outcome
39383. jexster - 10/28/2008 3:36:04 PM
You will never hear from either of them again
39384. jexster - 10/28/2008 4:10:42 PM
TPM TV on the Drive for 60
58, 59, 60 doesn't matter IMO...All depends on the issue and frankly, 55 is best because it puts what will be left of the GOP on the hot seat with the Greatiss Negro in World History holding the switch
All we need is enough to send JewMentum packing
That said..here's the US Senate Tsunami Warning Video
39385. jexster - 10/28/2008 4:43:16 PM
Happy to report an Amazing Grace
CNN just ripped a bigoted smear junk-mailing from James Dobson's Focus on the Family warning Jen and her lik that Obama was some sort of Anti-Christ who heralds Armageddon or similar wacko Christianist bullshit
RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS
CNN's correspondent described Jen and her crowd not just once, but several times
39386. jexster - 10/28/2008 4:47:32 PM
The other day a McShame adviser called Piglin "a diva", sociopath incapable of forming basic human relationships of trust
Today ANOTHER McStain adviser called her a "wack job"
John McSame..traitor 40 years ago, traitor now
Unfit for command
Unfit for just about anything
39387. magoseph - 10/28/2008 5:34:15 PM
From Salon:
Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2008 08:53 EDT
E-mails to Jews link Obama, Third Reich
At this point, no campaign attack or nasty tactic should really surprise us. We've seen the Britney/Paris ad. We've heard the Ayers/terrorism robo-calls. We've suffered through lectures about socialism from the governor of the state that receives more per capita from Washington than any other. And yesterday came the inevitable Rev. Jeremiah Wright television ad.
Now comes word of e-mails, sent by some entity called the Republican Committee of PA to 75,000 Jews in Pennsylvania and warning that "Jewish Americans cannot afford to make the wrong decision ... Many of our ancestors ignored the warning signs in the 1930s and 1940s and made a tragic mistake. Let's not make a similar one this year!"
Jake Tapper of ABC has more:
"The Republican Party of Pennsylvania did not authorize that e-mail," Michael Barley, communications director for the state party, asserted to The Associated Press.
Who authorized it?
"I'm not looking to drag anyone else through the mud, so I'm not naming names right now," Rudnick said
Yes, why drag anyone ELSE through the mud?
But Political consultant Bryan Rudnick -- hired by the PA GOP as a consultant to do outreach to Jewish voters -- told the AP, however, that, "I had authorization from party officials" to send the e-mail.
-- Thomas Schaller
39388. wonkers2 - 10/28/2008 5:42:01 PM
Shameful.
39389. jexster - 10/28/2008 5:48:56 PM
They mentioned that one too on CNN
Larry Sabato said it was the most vicious hate campaign he's ever seen
I can't remember a worse one myself
39390. jexster - 10/28/2008 5:50:25 PM
CNN Poll of polls
OH
Obama 50
McJizzrael 44
FL
49/45
39391. jexster - 10/28/2008 6:02:12 PM
Lou Dobbs says Bush is giving GM BILLIONS of your money and they're going to use it to merge with Chrysler and wipe out tens of thousands of jobs
What about W2's pension instead of OUR money!
Somebody should write the NyT
39392. jexster - 10/28/2008 7:21:25 PM
*
FL-Pres
Oct 28 LAT/Bloomberg
Obama (D) 50%, McCain (R) 43%
*
OH-Pres
Oct 28 LAT/Bloomberg
Obama (D) 49%, McCain (R) 40%
39393. jexster - 10/28/2008 7:25:42 PM
GOP Expects to Be Crushed in Historic Landslide - Buys Emergency Time in MT and WVA
Mike Allen, Politico
39394. jexster - 10/28/2008 7:40:18 PM
Time to start working up those predictions!!!
David Brooks, special guest, will begin
OBAMA WINS BY NINE
Pretty risky there Dave
39395. jexster - 10/28/2008 7:50:44 PM
Emergency Voter Alert from Republicans to Virginians!!
(Countdown)
Voting for persons whose last names begin A-L on 11/4
For those M-Z ...11/5
39396. jexster - 10/28/2008 8:02:50 PM
Those hyenas in the GOP are going to eat Piglin for breakfast a week from now
39397. jexster - 10/28/2008 8:18:17 PM
Color me a Yellow Dog ..same as I ever was...except rabid now
You've gone all squishy Charles
39398. jexster - 10/28/2008 8:35:20 PM
U know it's Oveur...
When a campaign starts leaking self-serving "internal top secret" memos from their pollster
39399. jexster - 10/28/2008 9:06:46 PM
39400. jexster - 10/28/2008 9:14:05 PM
"She's a Whack Job"
Sarah the Diva, Looking Past John the Runner-Up
39401. jexster - 10/28/2008 9:26:49 PM
Should GOP Cut McCain Loose?
Some observers suggest party must distance itself from nominee to mitigate losses in Congress.
NOW they listen to me
I they should cut the Old Yeller Fartard off two weeks ago
Too late now
39402. jexster - 10/28/2008 9:59:05 PM
Arizona State
McSame 48
Obama 46
Undecideds thought to be breaking for the colored guy
39403. wonkers2 - 10/29/2008 8:38:15 AM
39404. jexster - 10/29/2008 11:18:25 AM
Ohio hasn't been practicing much law
39405. jexster - 10/29/2008 11:33:36 AM
He chose the Diva
Now YOU get to choose
39406. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/29/2008 12:10:49 PM
39407. jexster - 10/29/2008 12:38:33 PM
Shared his PBJ
39408. jexster - 10/29/2008 2:53:45 PM
Pelosi's Prozute
39409. jexster - 10/29/2008 2:57:04 PM
Redistribute This - Just More McFilth
39410. jexster - 10/29/2008 3:20:02 PM
Andrew Bacevich: A Conservative Who Deserves to Live Long and Prosper
New Horses
39411. jexster - 10/29/2008 3:25:32 PM
Rocky Mountain High
CNN: Obama Doubles Lead in CO
EV Safe now 288
39412. jexster - 10/29/2008 3:37:54 PM
Ohio Rules That the Homeless Are Citizens!
39413. iiibbb - 10/29/2008 5:33:10 PM
I wish it were next week already.
39414. jexster - 10/29/2008 5:59:07 PM
Me2..I don't think I can look at The Deformities much longer
Yahoo! Answers asks
39415. iiibbb - 10/29/2008 6:37:59 PM
What Jex... you an Acrotomophiliac
39416. jexster - 10/29/2008 6:47:53 PM
There isn't much time left I3.
America needs answers!!
BuzzFeed: McCain’s Teeth
39417. jexster - 10/29/2008 6:59:21 PM
5 Things You Never Knew About McStain's Penis
39418. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/29/2008 7:31:55 PM

39419. jexster - 10/29/2008 8:17:18 PM
Grotesque Scarification
After seeing the Obamamercial millions of Americans will be asking themselves whether they really want to look at this for the next four years.
39420. jexster - 10/29/2008 8:44:49 PM
The Obamamercial
39421. jexster - 10/29/2008 9:10:34 PM
The corpse isn't even cold
ABC News Report: Palin Planning for 2012
39422. jexster - 10/29/2008 10:11:32 PM
Surfeit of lizards in CT
39423. jexster - 10/29/2008 10:11:42 PM
Ref McStain
39424. robertjayb - 10/29/2008 10:48:35 PM
Petraeus the politician...(St. Petersburg Times)
When Gen. David Petraeus takes charge of U.S. Central Command at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa on Friday, he will be taking on a difficult assignment. But his job will be made even more difficult because of what Sen. John McCain has done and said.
In the three presidential debates, the only person other than "Joe the Plumber" whom McCain has frequently used to try to discredit his opponent is Petraeus. As several analysts have pointed out, McCain's unprecedented use of an active-duty military officer for partisan political purposes is doing a disservice to the country by undermining civilian control of the military. However, Petraeus is hardly an innocent victim. In fact, the general has been heavily involved in partisan politics for the past four years.
39425. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/29/2008 11:23:26 PM

39426. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/29/2008 11:38:05 PM

39427. jexster - 10/30/2008 8:49:32 AM
Cole: The Racism and Hypocrisy of McPiglin's Khalidi Smears
Piglin can't even pronounce the man's name
KahlAhdi - not
39428. David Ehrenstein - 10/30/2008 8:53:33 AM
A personal message from the ACLU.
39429. jexster - 10/30/2008 9:02:47 AM
#
NV-Pres
Oct 30 CNN
Obama (D) 52%, McCain (R) 45%
#
NC-Pres
Oct 30 CNN
Obama (D) 52%, McCain (R) 46%
#
PA-Pres
Oct 30 CNN
Obama (D) 55%, McCain (R) 43%
39430. jexster - 10/30/2008 9:03:57 AM
Goddamn moromons
39431. jexster - 10/30/2008 9:20:42 AM
Don't forget Cahleefohnia!
The latest Field Poll gives Obama a 22-point lead in California, which would an unprecedented margin of victory in modern times:
39432. thoughtful - 10/30/2008 9:22:20 AM
Hertzberg nails it. This on the mccain/palin accusing obama of being a socialist, all because he wants to raise taxes on people earning more than $250,000/year (the only ones who have seen any increase in real earings in years) by 4.6% at the margin:
During the 2000 campaign, on MSNBC’s “Hardball,” a young woman asked him why her father, a doctor, should be “penalized” by being “in a huge tax bracket.” McCain replied that “wealthy people can afford more” and that “the very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes, really don’t pay nearly as much as you think they do.” The exchange continued:
YOUNG WOMAN: Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism and stuff?. . .
MCCAIN: Here’s what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more.
For her part, Sarah Palin, who has lately taken to calling Obama “Barack the Wealth Spreader,” seems to be something of a suspect character herself. She is, at the very least, a fellow-traveller of what might be called socialism with an Alaskan face. The state that she governs has no income or sales tax. Instead, it imposes huge levies on the oil companies that lease its oil fields. The proceeds finance the government’s activities and enable it to issue a four-figure annual check to every man, woman, and child in the state. One of the reasons Palin has been a popular governor is that she added an extra twelve hundred dollars to this year’s check, bringing the per-person total to $3,269. A few weeks before she was nominated for Vice-President, she told a visiting journalist—Philip Gourevitch, of this magazine—that “we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.” Perhaps there is some meaningful distinction between spreading the wealth and sharing it (“collectively,” no less), but finding it would require the analytic skills of Karl the Marxist.
39433. jexster - 10/30/2008 9:37:40 AM
No Honor Among Commie Traitors
McStain Camp Trying to Scapegoat Piglin
Same old traitor he was 40 years ago.
War hero my ass
39434. jexster - 10/30/2008 9:46:33 AM
ScapePig???
George Will Rips McPiglin - Again
39435. jexster - 10/30/2008 9:50:31 AM
First they threw Pastor Hagee under the bus..pastor parsely..Phil Gramm....then George Bush...now Sarah Piglin
Can she help it if she's an ignoramous?
Isn't McStain the one who picked the MoosePube?
Someone has to DO something!
Where's the outrage?
39436. jexster - 10/30/2008 10:04:14 AM
Blumenthal: There is no McStain vote lurking among the undecideds - no such thing as a Bradley effect
There wasn't even a Bradley effect in the Bradley-Dukemejian contest
39437. jexster - 10/30/2008 10:06:52 AM
hehehehe
39438. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/30/2008 10:24:20 AM
Video captures machine flipping votes in West Virginia
39439. iiibbb - 10/30/2008 10:57:45 AM
Message # 39432
Actually I don't think that windfall refund counts. The state of Alaska actually invests in oil field development, so they may have a certain claim on that money.
http://dwb.adn.com/opinion/compass/story/9424111p-9336400c.html
I still dislike her, but this line of criticism isn't clear cut.
39440. iiibbb - 10/30/2008 10:58:09 AM
39441. judithathome - 10/30/2008 11:04:49 AM
Isn't that Socialism, though? I feel free to criticize her since she's made that her cri d'couer against Obama.
Oh well, we'll get ours when she goes down in history as one of the main reasons McCain lost the election...that, and the fact she contributed to the most disgusting and dirty campaign ever..
39442. jexster - 10/30/2008 11:37:02 AM
It certainly IS socialism. Couldn't be more "clearcut".
It is ownership of the means of production - erl
It is also socialism to have an ownership stake in insurance companies and banks
39443. jexster - 10/30/2008 11:38:02 AM
Strictly defined only Piglin and Bush are socialists
39444. jexster - 10/30/2008 11:52:27 AM
It took a minute of reflection but no more than that.
I3 is a communist
39445. jexster - 10/30/2008 11:53:23 AM
The Economist: Obama for President
39446. jexster - 10/30/2008 11:54:36 AM
If it is all the same to you COMRADE, we would rather NOT have your vote taint the pool. If CPUSA isn't on your ballot this year, please vote Republican
39447. magoseph - 10/30/2008 11:56:23 AM
Excerpt fron Associated Press:
Excerpt fron Associated Press:
WASHINGTON – Barack Obama has pulled ahead in enough states to win the 270 electoral votes he needs to gain the White House — and with states to spare — according to an Associated Press analysis that shows he is now moving beyond typical Democratic territory to challenge John McCain on historically GOP turf.
Even if McCain sweeps the six states that are too close to call, he still seemingly won't have enough votes to prevail, according to the analysis, which is based on polls, the candidates' TV spending patterns and interviews with Democratic and Republican strategists. McCain does have a path to victory but it's a steep climb: He needs a sudden shift in voter sentiment that gives him all six toss-up states plus one or two others that now lean toward Obama.
Obama has 23 states and the District of Columbia, offering 286 votes, in his column or leaning his way, while Republican McCain has 21 states with 163 votes. A half dozen offering 89 votes — Florida, Indiana, Missouri, North Carolina, Nevada and Ohio — remain up for grabs. President Bush won all six in 2004, and they are where the race is primarily being contested in the homestretch.
Though sounding confident, Obama is still campaigning hard. "Don't believe for a second this election is over," he tells backers. "We have to work like our future depends on it in this last week, because it does."
cont)
39448. jexster - 10/30/2008 12:27:45 PM
He cried in McVain
Joe Joe where'd ya go?
But Joe the Plumber wasn't at McYellowStain's OH rally. Probably in Nashville workin on that new CW recording K
39449. jexster - 10/30/2008 12:32:55 PM
Surgin in Tejas!
Texas (U o Tejas)
McCain 51, Obama 40, Barr 1
39450. jexster - 10/30/2008 12:39:03 PM
Why am I NOT surprised
23% of Texican think Obama is a Muslim.
39451. iiibbb - 10/30/2008 12:44:52 PM
I read somewhere that 20% of HS seniors can't find the Pacific Ocean on a map either...
...so that stat just about works out.
39452. jexster - 10/30/2008 12:55:03 PM
90% of them live in Texas, AR, OK
Big Dog was wonderful last night
39453. jexster - 10/30/2008 1:00:16 PM
39454. jexster - 10/30/2008 1:02:48 PM
McCrone Is Dragging Down GOP Races Across The Country--And Party Leaders Are Pissed!
39455. jexster - 10/30/2008 1:16:02 PM
The Great Bush Recession 2008:
An Epic Failure of Republican Economics
39456. jexster - 10/30/2008 1:20:36 PM
Latest McSlime
Obama will give your money to his welfare peeps
39457. jexster - 10/30/2008 1:44:57 PM
Chuck Todd. BIG FAT IDIOT wrote some bullshit piece about undecideds breaking for McStain...two analyses by Pew and another from Blumenthal basically said he's full of shit
I wondered myself because he cited NO evidence or had I seen any of some hidden reservoir of McLame support
Well Stu Rothenberg just slammed the fat bitch...talking about the Senate races, Rothenberg concludes "Well I don't know how you do it but you keep pretending that there's some suspense left in that other race. So I guess if you can do that, we can gin up something in the Congress for you"
39458. jexster - 10/30/2008 1:45:09 PM
KLEEFELD RULZ!
39459. jexster - 10/30/2008 1:50:57 PM
39460. jexster - 10/30/2008 2:01:15 PM
ATTN Colbert Nation: WORD - I Endorse Barack Obama
39461. jexster - 10/30/2008 2:15:50 PM
Piglin Popularity Falls in Alaska and in the USA
39462. jexster - 10/30/2008 2:32:33 PM
MANCHESTER – Fred Bramante, a member of McCain's New Hampshire Leadership Committee and a 2008 Alternate Delegate to the Republican National Convention today announced his support for Senator Obama's Campaign for Change.
Bramante, a Co-Chair of Gov. Mike Huckabee's presidential campaign and former Republican gubernatorial candidate, is a past Chairman and current member of the New Hampshire State Board of Education. His endorsement marks the first time nationally that a delegate or alternate delegate to the 2008 Republican National Convention has publicly announced their decision to support Sen. Obama.
39463. jexster - 10/30/2008 2:33:07 PM
Where is the OUTRAGE?
39464. jexster - 10/30/2008 2:52:33 PM

39465. jexster - 10/30/2008 3:11:00 PM
AP is reporting that some McStain aides are urging a shutdown to save Senate seats and a NH official saying "I get the feeling that this thing is shutting down"
Which leaves unresolved one of the major issues facing our country
The Deformities: McSpeechImpediment
My opponent is already MAYsuring the drapes at the White House in WaRshington DC
I suppose they want us to believe he can't speak properly because he was "tortured"?
39466. jexster - 10/30/2008 3:19:21 PM
Republican Voter Suppression Efforts Collapsing from Coast to Coast
39467. David Ehrenstein - 10/30/2008 4:06:26 PM
39468. jexster - 10/30/2008 4:42:05 PM
Took him long enough
39469. jexster - 10/30/2008 5:07:55 PM
Palin's no longer wearing her $15K 'do
She's gone back to Merlene's Moose Salon's beehive
39470. jexster - 10/30/2008 6:20:30 PM
Increasingly, Poll Shows Palin Hurting McCain’s Chances
A growing number of voters have concluded that Senator John McCain’s running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, is not qualified to be vice president, weighing down the Republican ticket in the last days of the campaign, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
39471. jexster - 10/30/2008 6:51:58 PM
AP Fact Check: Alaska is America's Leading Socialist State
That about seals it
I3 is a communist
So is Thoughtful
39472. jexster - 10/30/2008 7:01:27 PM
Wildings in Chocolate City!
Inauguration Anticipation Builds in DC
Crowds upwards of 500,000 expected to clog streets
(Politico)
39473. David Ehrenstein - 10/30/2008 7:06:52 PM
Latest FaBlog: "Dignity -- Always Dignity!" (and Digby -- Always Digby.)
39474. jexster - 10/30/2008 7:16:06 PM
Could he.....?
Could Concerned really BE Rush Limbaugh??????
39475. Ms. No - 10/30/2008 7:48:12 PM
I found this interesting:
Andrew Sullivan's Top Ten List of Why Obama is the Only Conservative Choice for POTUS
Of course, Jex probably already linked this. ;->
39476. jexster - 10/30/2008 7:49:01 PM
McCain's Disgrace: The Khalidi Smear
The McCain campaign has been throwing around so much mud and smears in recent weeks that it's easy to miss just how ugly and shameful their character assassination of Rashid Khalidi is. This is an entirely respectable, highly respected scholar. To go further into making a case for him would only be to enable and indulge McCain's sordid appeal to racism. For McCain, personally, to compare Khalidi to a neo-nazi, it's just an offense McCain should never be forgiven for. It's right down in the gutter with Joe McCarthy and the worst of the worst. Khalidi is in this new McCain set piece for one reason -- as a generic Arab, to spur the idea that Obama is foreign, friendly with terrorists and possibly Muslim.
Here's a video John Judis did this afternoon at The New Republic on McCain's latest low ...
39477. jexster - 10/30/2008 7:56:18 PM
NO i haven't.
Don't you have a lesson plan to prepare for your little skinheads?
39478. Ms. No - 10/30/2008 8:02:48 PM
Nah, they just took the Quarter Final today and tomorrow is a shortened day -- 35 minute classes -- we'll be looking at some Halloweenie stuff and then I'm sending them out to get all smacked up on sugar and egg their neighbors' houses.
39479. jexster - 10/30/2008 8:12:15 PM
NO young skinheads? Damn
I'll have to rely on Arky then
39480. jexster - 10/30/2008 8:26:57 PM
From Austin Tejas where Obama yard signs outnumber McStain 15-1
Nate Silver interviews Dan Rather about eRection night
39481. jexster - 10/30/2008 8:44:32 PM
She could have a dozen babies. She could lay a thousand eggs
Daily Show: She's Goin Rogue
39482. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/30/2008 9:23:02 PM
Chris Shays gets off the Straight Talk Expres
39483. Ms. No - 10/30/2008 11:48:44 PM
Jex,
No skinheads, but I do have a student who's likely connected to what passes for the Russian Mafia here in Sacto.
39484. alistairconnor - 10/31/2008 3:42:08 AM
Ah she's really over the edge now...
Here's my girlfriend hanging out with those ACORN terrisses in Cleveland : Freeze the foreclosures 
39485. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/31/2008 9:01:15 AM
This is a wonderful interview . . .
39486. jexster - 10/31/2008 9:06:47 AM
Shocking!
WWL TV New Orleans Poll:
McCain and Obama are tied within the margin of error
39487. jexster - 10/31/2008 9:08:39 AM
Ed Renwick's poll!
I made polling calls for the first time for this guy and his partner back in '72

39488. jexster - 10/31/2008 9:15:38 AM
39483
OOOOOOOOO
I have a thing for Russian boys too! To hell with skinheads
39489. jexster - 10/31/2008 9:23:38 AM
So AC would you say she's "gone native"????
39490. jexster - 10/31/2008 9:26:48 AM
39491. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/31/2008 9:37:19 AM

39492. jexster - 10/31/2008 9:46:21 AM
Obama going on TV for the first time in Arizona -- and back on the air in Georgia and North Dakota.
39493. jexster - 10/31/2008 9:47:14 AM
I'll take A, E R I C
39494. jexster - 10/31/2008 9:51:14 AM
OK I go 4 K too
Leave the ET in the red dress to Wonkers
39495. jexster - 10/31/2008 10:03:42 AM
2/3 of CO vote has been cast already
39496. jexster - 10/31/2008 10:04:45 AM
Yes on Adam and Steve Camp Teases Strong Field Poll
Deport the Moromons
39497. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/31/2008 10:29:30 AM
Advance this video to the "Community Organizer" bit and then to the Bill Kristol interview. The Daily Show surpasses every so called legitimate news source for information and expose journalism.
39498. iiibbb - 10/31/2008 10:41:38 AM
I found it interesting that Jon Stewart said he probably would've voted for McCain over Gore in 2000.
I point out to some people that Gore (and Kerry for that matter) weren't good candidates, and they get really bent out of shape about it. Probably because both were such close calls. It was arguable that Gore had the election stolen, but he also did some things that alienated himself from states that he could've won the whole shebang in spite of FL, like Tennessee.
Kerry just has anti-charisma.
I hate Bush like a white-hot sun, but Gore/Kerry were not good candidates (even if they may have been good presidents).
Anyway... I was surprised about what Stewart said because it means he and I are closer on politics than I would've thought.
39499. iiibbb - 10/31/2008 10:44:39 AM
This is my prediction in terms of watching the election.
If Obama wins VA... he's going to win.
If Obama wins VA + FL or OH it's going to be ugly.
If Obama wins VA + FL + OH it's going to be a landslide.
If Obama loses VA and PA it's going to be very tight.
If Obama loses VA, PA, FL, OH he will probably lose.
Note... I really don't think Obama is going to lose PA.
39500. iiibbb - 10/31/2008 10:46:05 AM
So the states I'm watching are VA, PA, FL, OH... after those are in, I am going to bed.
39501. jexster - 10/31/2008 10:47:23 AM
If they call VA and PA earlish, stay UP and watch the landslide
39502. jexster - 10/31/2008 10:48:24 AM
Eagleburger Blisters Pigin: "Of Course" She's Not Ready"
A former Republican Secretary of State and one of John McCain's most prominent supporters offered a stunningly frank and remarkably bleak assessment of Sarah Palin's capacity to handle the presidency should such a scenario arise.
39503. anomie - 10/31/2008 10:51:55 AM
Remember, ya'll. The new law is that Dems vote on Tuesday and Repubs vote on Wednesday. If Repubs show up on Tues they will be arrested for vote fraud.
Concerned, Illinois Repubs vote only in odd years: 2009, 2011, etc...
39504. jexster - 10/31/2008 10:59:07 AM
Concerned's in the life boat
39505. jexster - 10/31/2008 11:04:12 AM
Have U carved UR Republican yet?
LET THE WILDINGS BEGIN!
39506. jexster - 10/31/2008 11:37:15 AM
Another Poll: A Dead Heat In McCain's Home State Of Arizona
By Eric Kleefeld - October 31, 2008, 12:09PM
Another poll shows that John McCain could be in serious danger of losing his home state of Arizona -- and remember, the Obama campaign just announced that they'll be advertising there for the first time in the general election.
39507. jexster - 10/31/2008 11:37:28 AM
39508. jexster - 10/31/2008 11:53:25 AM
Mike Downs Center / SurveyUSA
10/27-30/08, 900 LV, 3.5%
Mode: IVR
Indiana
McCain 47, Obama 47, Barr 2
39509. jexster - 10/31/2008 12:00:51 PM
Obama Gives Daily Show Its Biggest Audience Ever
39510. jexster - 10/31/2008 12:10:18 PM
Tsunami
#
Pres '08
Oct 31 Gallup
Obama (D) 52%, McCain (R) 43%
39511. jexster - 10/31/2008 12:13:42 PM

39512. jexster - 10/31/2008 12:24:58 PM

39513. jexster - 10/31/2008 12:27:06 PM
39514. David Ehrenstein - 10/31/2008 1:33:49 PM
THIS JUST IN! Is Sarah Palin Jewish? A Litvak?Based on Jewish law that makes one Jewish if born to a Jewish mother, Sarah Palin is Jewish, though she touts a mask of evangelical Christianity. Sarah Palin's mother, Sally Sheigam, was of Lithuanian Jewish heritage and so were both of her mother's parents, Louise Sheigam and Shmuel Sheigam. Her father, Chuck Heath, also comes from Jewish lood because his mother, Beatrice Coleman, was of Jewish decent. Further information on Governor Palin's ancestors can be found in the vital records in the Lithuanian State Historical Archives in Vilnius (http://www.archyvai.lt/archyvai/index.jsp). The Archives holds birth, marriage, divorce, and death records for the Lithuanian Jewish community from 1851 until 1915 when the Jews were required to leave the country because of World War I. They are in 18th Century Cyrillic script and Yiddish. Many of these records include the mother's maiden name and town of registration. Palin's maternal grandfather, Schmuel Sheigam, was a Lithuanian Jew, born in 1912 in Vilkaviskis, Lithuania, The Sheigams' grandmother was a Jewess named Gower. At the Ellis Island
Immigration Center, the name was entered as Sheeran,instead of Sheigam, a standard practice when immigration officers were unable to understand the pronunciation of non-English speaking immigrants. They are buried in the Jewish cemetery at Budezeriai.
39515. thoughtful - 10/31/2008 1:40:19 PM
So some young kid (he looked to be about 18 at best) came to my door last night wanting me to talk about what they're trying to do to get this candidate elected. I was very upset to learn that they are trying to get him listed on the ballot twice as running from 2 different parties. I was naive and astounded to learn that that was legal in our state! That is so blatantly unfair. All one need do is go to the local grocery and see how much competition there is over shelf space to know that space is a critical factor. Just imagine people who are trying to register a protest vote and vote for a 3rd party candidate only to find out that the candidate they selected is really one and the same as the major party candidate. That's just wrong. What if a candidate manages to get himself listed 10 times under 10 different parties making it difficult to find the alternate or increase errors in selecting the wrong candidate. That's just wrong. Perhaps when I retire I can work to fix it.
So I refused to hear what he had to say. He stank of cigarettes and I asked him if he smoked. He said he just had a cigarette. So I told him about my father, my mother and my SIL and I told him the election wasn't half so important as saving his life. To focus on quitting rather than this as his ability to campaign will be greatly affected by his premature death.
Sometimes i just LOVE being an old fart!
:)
39516. jexster - 10/31/2008 1:43:25 PM
Reagan chief of staff: McCain’s interview with Palin was easier than getting a job at McDonald’s.»
Interviewed on MSNBC today, former Reagan chief of staff Ken Duberstein criticized Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) for choosing Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate:
I think it has very much undermined the whole question of John McCain’s judgment. You know what most Americans I think realized is that you don’t offer a job, let alone the vice presidency, to a person after one job interview. Even at McDonald’s, you’re interviewed three times before you get a job.
On whether Palin is ready to be president “in an emergency on day one,” Duberstein noted, “People have resounded said ‘don’t think so.’” Watch it:
39517. jexster - 10/31/2008 3:44:27 PM
I'll have a side of scrapple please
Polls: McCain's Pennsylvania Push Stalling Out
39518. jexster - 10/31/2008 3:46:28 PM

39519. jexster - 10/31/2008 4:00:26 PM
DailyKos.com (D) / Research 2000
10/28-29/08; 500 LV, 4.5%
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews
North Dakota
McCain 47, Obama 46
39520. jexster - 10/31/2008 4:04:15 PM
WaPo Editorial on the Kahaladi Schmear
McPiglin: An Idiot Wind
39521. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/31/2008 4:05:52 PM
39522. jexster - 10/31/2008 4:07:43 PM
A cute gaggle of Haloweenie costumed kindergarteners (mostly chocolate drops) passed me in my Obama Hat at a bus stop
"Look at all the spooks!"
See what you can get away with?
39523. jexster - 10/31/2008 4:12:06 PM
Harmonic Convergence
39524. jexster - 10/31/2008 4:24:12 PM
Montana
McCain 48, Obama 44
39525. alistairConnor - 10/31/2008 4:46:04 PM
Got mail around lunchtime today : "Help! We can't find Hillary. We know she's in Ohio."
I tracked her down, she was doing a show in Cleveland at 9am. They could have gone. But they had decided to go and see the McCain/Schwartzy show. I'm eagerly awaiting a report on that one.
Bill has also been stumping around Ohio today, they missed him too. So much to see, so little time.
39526. jexster - 10/31/2008 6:21:46 PM
I hope she don't drowns
39527. jexster - 10/31/2008 6:30:50 PM
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39528. jexster - 10/31/2008 6:53:24 PM
Reagan Chief of Staff Endorses Obama
39529. jexster - 10/31/2008 7:11:45 PM
Maysuring the Drapes in WaRshington
Dems Sketch Obama Staff and Cabinet
Roemer Secty of Homeland Security
Ahnold Secty of Energy
39530. jexster - 10/31/2008 7:20:49 PM
Maybe I'll be a "Company" Man
CIA director: Former Rep. Tim Roemer (D-Ind.);
39531. jexster - 10/31/2008 7:44:06 PM
Early voting in 'Lana

39532. jexster - 10/31/2008 7:53:33 PM
Joe the Plumber is my role model...We're going to change WaRshington and I'm going to bring Joe the Plumber with me my friends
39533. jexster - 10/31/2008 9:38:21 PM
Milbank
Not that he's bragging or anything, but Barack Obama has something he'd like you to know: Size matters.
39534. iiibbb - 10/31/2008 9:50:03 PM
Drudge says McCain is ahead.
39535. iiibbb - 10/31/2008 11:33:48 PM
Nate Silver's response to said poll is amusing. People were getting rather wound up about it on the other boards.
39536. David Ehrenstein - 11/1/2008 7:51:09 AM

39537. iiibbb - 11/1/2008 8:36:36 AM
This morning I tried to make a bet with my wife.
I bet that Obama will win 2 of 3 of NC, IN, and MO.
She wouldn't take it.
39538. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/1/2008 9:37:55 AM

39539. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/1/2008 9:44:17 AM
39540. robertjayb - 11/1/2008 11:36:42 AM
Auntie go home!
CHICAGO — Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Saturday he didn't know his aunt was living in the United States illegally and believes that laws covering the situation should be followed.
The Associated Press found that Obama's aunt had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya. The woman, Zeituni Onyango (zay-TUHN on-YANG-oh), is living in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.
A statement given to the AP by Obama's campaign said, "Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed."
39541. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:28:37 PM
Early Crimmus
Obama On Cheney's Endorsement Of McCain: Congratulations, John!
39542. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:31:40 PM
November Surprise!
Merry Crimmus
So George Bush may be in an undisclosed location, but Dick Cheney's out there on the campaign trail because he'd be delighted to pass the baton to John McCain. He knows that with John McCain you get a twofer: George Bush's economic policy and Dick Cheney's foreign policy -- but that's a risk we cannot afford to take.
39543. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:32:32 PM
We gotta beat New York!
#
CA-Pres
Nov 1 SurveyUSA
Obama (D) 60%, McCain (R) 36%
39544. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:33:09 PM
Will Tejas beat Alabama?
39545. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:35:49 PM
Joe the Plumber -Not Our Role Model
AP poll shows Obama backers gleeful, McCain's glum

39546. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:39:18 PM
USA! USA!
Piglin: US is at War with Iran
39547. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:43:18 PM
LWord for the NWord Robert?
The Jexie Election Call cometh tomorrow!
TEASER: Bushville DC is going to STINK on Jan 20
39548. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:44:27 PM
#
FL-Pres
Nov 1 Mason-Dixon
Obama (D) 49%, McCain (R) 47
39549. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:50:16 PM
Lou Dobbs reported yesterday that Mexican troops invaded Tejas
A little early
Wait until America returns the garbage to sender
39550. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:51:43 PM
Teaser II
Back in January...
Jexie TOLD yall the name of the only Democrat who had a chance at the LWord
39551. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:55:40 PM
Ole Yellow Stain - A Leader for Our Times
39552. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:58:45 PM
Better than a Bin-Laden endorsement
39553. iiibbb - 11/1/2008 3:59:40 PM
39554. jexster - 11/1/2008 3:59:43 PM
Do we dare hope that Caribou Barbie will emerge as Standard Bearer on 11/5??
39555. jexster - 11/1/2008 4:00:45 PM
Obama's Juggernaut has already turned out over 1/3 of the vote in FL and NC early voting
39556. jexster - 11/1/2008 4:08:24 PM
BREAKING: Army of Virginia Cut Off!!!
WaPo: Obama Dramatically Out-Organizing McCain In Virginia

39557. jexster - 11/1/2008 4:44:06 PM
39558. jexster - 11/1/2008 4:51:08 PM
The night of the long knives - McSame and Piglin-fighting, betrayal and backstabbing
39559. David Ehrenstein - 11/1/2008 5:45:21 PM
Hey -- look who's against Prop 8!
39560. magoseph - 11/1/2008 6:04:56 PM
Predict whether Barack Obama or John McCain will win each state to build a path to the 270 Electoral College votes needed to win the presidency. You can start with our swing state scenario with 177 Electoral Votes undecided, or choose a different one. Then click on the states in order to make your pick. For more information on one of the swing states, there is an in-depth profile (if it doesn't work at first, turn off your pop-up blocker in order to view).
39561. jexster - 11/1/2008 6:06:56 PM

39562. jexster - 11/1/2008 6:22:19 PM
Charles Cook is in awe of the Negro
39563. jexster - 11/1/2008 6:25:11 PM
Sarko Calls Sarah
39564. jexster - 11/1/2008 6:38:14 PM
Fuckin Kebecers
39565. jexster - 11/1/2008 6:54:32 PM
CBS Poll: Obama Has Banked Massive Early Vote Lead
39566. jexster - 11/1/2008 6:59:17 PM
Charles Cook just conceded that he totally missed what has happened with Obama's candidacy (he thought Hillary had it)
"It's not a campaign. It's an IPO" referring to the amount raised.."
I'm still the Master, Cook my student
39567. jexster - 11/1/2008 7:02:17 PM
Someone from "FloriDUH" sent a letter to the editor published today in the HTown Chron...referring to the poll that showed 23% of Texicans think Obama's a muslim and thanking Tejas for taking the title of Stoopidist State in the USA! USA!
39568. jexster - 11/1/2008 7:18:15 PM
Roger Smith of Politico on
The Ground Game
39569. jexster - 11/1/2008 7:38:09 PM
Quebecers Punk Simpleton Sister
39570. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/1/2008 7:41:23 PM
39571. jexster - 11/1/2008 8:39:02 PM
Beware the Coming Socialist Police State
39572. jexster - 11/1/2008 8:58:05 PM
Concerned's been workin the phones!
From TPM Reader QG ...
39573. David Ehrenstein - 11/2/2008 9:09:09 AM
Max Marries Herb's Ex-Boyfriend
39574. jexster - 11/2/2008 10:02:06 AM
Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner
Rich
39575. jexster - 11/2/2008 10:17:38 AM
Bellwether Poll: Obama Ahead By Six In Ohio
The new Columbus Dispatch poll of Ohio, conducted by mail, has Barack Obama ahead of John McCain by a 52%-46% margin, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 49%-42% Obama lead a month ago. Historically, the leader in the Dispatch's final Ohio poll has consistently carried the state.
GOP Pollster Frank Luntz Calls Fork
I cannot foresee a scenario that John McCain is elected the President of the United States.
(Via Eric Kleefeld)
39576. jexster - 11/2/2008 10:19:08 AM
39573...I saw that
Proves once again a friend's hypothesis that gay relationships are fundamentally incestuous
Disgusting
39577. jexster - 11/2/2008 10:28:59 AM
39578. jexster - 11/2/2008 10:40:12 AM
The Union's Obama Pitch in Rust Belt: Call a Spade a Spade
39579. jexster - 11/2/2008 10:45:22 AM
The Lies they tell us....
Politico: GOP Offers Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud
Maybe that's why, like they did with Palin's "national guard" experience, they've shut the fuck up about ACORN.
Hardly a peep since McStain warned of "democracy's unraveling" at the last debate
39580. jexster - 11/2/2008 10:48:19 AM
ACORN is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy.”
Joe the Plumber's role modeler
39581. jexster - 11/2/2008 11:23:46 AM
39582. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/2/2008 11:26:41 AM
This rocks . . .
Best election recap, EVER!
39583. jexster - 11/2/2008 11:42:42 AM
Fat Boy's Last Map
Todd wimps out
Obama 286
McSlime 157
TossUp 95
TossUp isn't on the ballot
39584. arkymalarky - 11/2/2008 12:18:30 PM
John Fund is full of shit.
39585. arkymalarky - 11/2/2008 12:38:51 PM
Con'd, where are you?
39586. iiibbb - 11/2/2008 1:14:16 PM
I'm virtually positive Obama is going to win now.
And since I'm not a nail-biting Democrat I can look beyond the election. I wonder if, as the Democrats take over the reins, that they will be thinking short-term or long-term. I think it's going to be a real careful balance of securing political victories they consider most important vs. not going too crazy and risking their gains amongst moderate voters.
I think Obama has the chops for that too.
39587. arkymalarky - 11/2/2008 1:19:30 PM
I'm still nervous, but that's my nature. I think Obama will be great and I think McCain will help him in the Senate.
39588. jexster - 11/2/2008 1:20:40 PM
Gallup Daily: Obama Continues to Outpace McCain NEW
November 2, 2008
Barack Obama leads John McCain by eight percentage points among “traditional likely voters,” 51% to 43%, with 5% undecided. His lead stretches to nine points among “expanded likely voters” and a theoretical 11 points among all eligible voters.
39589. jexster - 11/2/2008 1:31:38 PM
America: "We're Votin for the Nigger"
EV
Obama 353
The Deformities 185
Popular Vote
Obama 52
McPiglin 45
Other 3
39590. jexster - 11/2/2008 1:33:21 PM
Dr. Wang as of November 2, 12:01PM EST:
* Obama: 364
* McCain: 174
* Meta-margin: Obama +7.78%
39591. arkymalarky - 11/2/2008 1:35:02 PM
I don't get the "undecided" in these polls. Wouldn't most of these be voting for third party candidates?
39592. jexster - 11/2/2008 1:45:30 PM
I just think there are lots of people who either like to think or like others to think that they are serious about it all
39593. jexster - 11/2/2008 1:51:08 PM
Despite her promise a couple weeks back, Piglin still has not produced medical records
The baby is her granddaughter
39594. jexster - 11/2/2008 2:19:11 PM
Senate Predictions
Dems pick up: CO,NM,VA,NH,NC,AK = 56-44 (Mentum dumped)
39595. jexster - 11/2/2008 2:51:53 PM
CNN is running a panel of Morans Only (Wash time, Weakly std etc..)
Topic is:
How to salvage the Grand Old Pigpile? Is Concerned all we have to offer America?
Disgusting. There are STILL 2 days to go and his own people are throwing our Little Fascist under the Bus my friends
39596. jexster - 11/2/2008 4:34:58 PM
Pew is PREDICTING a 6 point win
39597. winstonsmith - 11/2/2008 5:03:27 PM
Well, I voted for O last week an am optimistic but will only fully believe it when I see it. I have been disappointed before and therefore cannot summon the certainty I would like to feel.
My wife will be out canvassing while I watch the kids today. We have friends scheduled to come over to the house for the election party Tuesday. Our kids will be making the Obama decorations for the party.
39598. winstonsmith - 11/2/2008 5:09:38 PM
Obama campaign called asking for a final donation. We gave it to them. They hooked us by saying that we might win a trip to Chicago for the election party and back stage pass. Brilliant, I bet they get 50M off that one.
39599. jexster - 11/2/2008 5:41:17 PM
You probably helped push them over $650 million
39600. winstonsmith - 11/2/2008 5:54:21 PM
YEE HAW, hope so.
Dude has been campaigning for 2 years. Just incredible, it seems like 4ever.
39601. jexster - 11/2/2008 6:05:04 PM

39602. jexster - 11/2/2008 6:05:59 PM
Robert's holdin a BIG eRection shindig at Luby's down to Jasper TX
39603. jexster - 11/2/2008 6:25:33 PM
Ebony and Ivory
Obama and Clinton reach common ground
39604. winstonsmith - 11/2/2008 6:27:38 PM
Our O party is in "Little Beirut"
39605. jexster - 11/2/2008 6:30:36 PM
There are two main ones
The Democratic Party at the Fairmont on Snob Hill and the Generation Obama event at some GenXYZ club South of Market
39606. jexster - 11/2/2008 6:37:03 PM

39607. jexster - 11/2/2008 6:41:03 PM
Ya think?
CLEVELAND – Barack Obama says he thinks he might be headed for a win Tuesday night.
The Democratic presidential candidate told Ohio voters Sunday that "the past couple of days I've just been feeling good."
He says having his wife and daughters with him on the campaign trail and the massive crowds that he's been seeing are encouraging.
"You start thinking maybe we might be able to win an election on November 4," the Illinois senator said.
He spoke after being introduced by singer Bruce Springsteen, who warmed up a crowd of 80,000 that gathered after the ending of the Cleveland Browns football game.
Lookin to be the first Democrat to break 50% since 1976
...that was a VERY good year..my only Inauguration
39608. jexster - 11/2/2008 6:42:05 PM
Concerned is going to lose a fine Senator. Let's hope Jesse Jackson Jr replaces him
39609. jexster - 11/2/2008 7:02:34 PM
Joe the Plumber: Obama is a Traitor
39610. jexster - 11/2/2008 7:25:06 PM
George Stephanopoulos 353 EV
George Will 378
39611. jexster - 11/2/2008 7:55:50 PM
Holy Shit!
The 2008 Fiscal year ended Sept 30. Since then, Bush has racked up FIVE HUNDRED BILLION in debt..one month. THat's more than the entire preceding fiscal year.
39612. jexster - 11/2/2008 8:00:29 PM
Worst President Ever
ONE TRILLION Since July 21
39613. jexster - 11/2/2008 8:29:51 PM
39614. jexster - 11/2/2008 8:51:28 PM
As the numbers of Americans who disapprove of Piglin nears 60%, the latest CNN poll suggests she may cost the ticket 2% on eRection day....
39615. winstonsmith - 11/2/2008 11:21:08 PM
Gallup Final Presidential Estimate: Obama 55%, McCain 44%
39616. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/2/2008 11:29:47 PM
McPalin Shithead unable to explain The Babe's first amendment gaffe . . .
39617. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/3/2008 12:10:11 AM

39618. David Ehrenstein - 11/3/2008 8:17:38 AM
39619. jexster - 11/3/2008 9:18:39 AM
Good God it looks like a mudslide's comin tomorrow
Research 2000: 51 (51) 45 (44) 3 LV Final tomorrow
Reuters/Zogby: 51 (50) 44 (44) 2.9 LV Final tomorrow
USAToday/Gallup: 53 (52) 42 (45) 2 LV Final
Gallup: 53 (52) 42 (43) 2 LV Final all variations
NBC/WSJ: 51 (52) 43 (42) 3.1 LV Final
Rasmussen: 52 (51) 46 (46) 2 LV Final tomorrow
39620. jexster - 11/3/2008 9:19:10 AM
He should have picked Joe the Plumber
39621. jexster - 11/3/2008 9:32:49 AM
39618
I remember as if it were yesterday the asshole Chairman of the SF GOP chortling about how Bush had established at long last the Permanent Reagan Majority
"We will rule forever"
I knew at the time that was a crock of shit if for no other reason than pride goes before a fall.
I don't think the Dems will make the same mistake WRT the GOP. If they're going to solidify the expected gains they really are going to have to change the way politics is done in Washington including first of all how they deal with the party out of power
You don't go around threatening extermination and then actually try to do it
39622. jexster - 11/3/2008 9:49:57 AM
Wouldn't want her so grandly dressed up with nowhere to go.
I sure hope that after tomorrow we still have Sistah Sarah to kick around some more.
USA TODAY's Washington bureau chief, Susan Page, adds that:
39623. jexster - 11/3/2008 9:52:56 AM
I guess we'll just have to swallow hard and endure all those whiny tales about how slaves built the WHITE House, scenes of crazy negroes wilding in the streets
HORROR
39624. jexster - 11/3/2008 10:05:36 AM
39625. jexster - 11/3/2008 10:13:13 AM
The NBC/WSJ poll reports that all McStain attacks have flopped as Americans Resoundingly Reject The Deformities

39626. jexster - 11/3/2008 10:45:03 AM
The new Washington Post-ABC News tracking poll puts Obama well out in front over Republican John McCain and finds that Obama has firmly reestablished his advantage on handling the economy, beaten back a challenge on taxes and has an edge in terms of perceptions about which candidate would better deal with an unexpected major crisis.
39627. jexster - 11/3/2008 11:16:46 AM
NBC: That’s some streak
Obama has now led in 111 straight national polls with methodologies we trust (looking back through the Pollster.com national trend), including the trackers back to Sept. 22-24 when a Gallup Tracking poll showed the race tied at 46%-46%. Since a Big Ten poll that showed McCain up 46%-45%, Obama has led in 117 of 119 polls.
39628. jexster - 11/3/2008 11:40:52 AM
California Civil Code Section 60, provided that “All marriages of white persons with Negroes, Mongolians, members of the Malay race, or mulattoes are illegal and void,” and also Section 69, which stated that "... no license may be issued authorizing the marriage of a white person with a Negro, mulatto, Mongolian or member of the Malay race". This was overturned by the California Supreme Court in October 1948 in Perez v. Sharp on the grounds that it violates the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
And a dark day it was 2
Fuckin MongoRians
39629. jexster - 11/3/2008 12:21:19 PM
Cook Political Report: Huge Manigolt in Nancy's Oven
Top-Line Numbers
October 28, 2008
House Editor David Wasserman estimates that Democrats will pick up between 24 and 30 House seats.
39630. jexster - 11/3/2008 12:28:24 PM
39631. thoughtful - 11/3/2008 12:42:53 PM
Well lets put it this way. If in light of the polls, mccain gets in, then there will have to be a very serious examination of the election process.
My mother is in FL and tried voting once already...she was in a very long line that wrapped around the building and then was told that "Tallahassee computers are down" and there was no way of knowing when voting would start up again. Seeing as the rain began, she went home and plans on going back tomorrow, hoping that by then, so many would've voted that the lines will be very short.
Now I want to know what computers in Tallahassee have to do with voting in Boynton Beach. Do they not have local servers to store the data on? Do they not have a paper back up so people can vote locally and the data be sent to Tallahassee at a later interval?
Not to mention just thinking about all this, the number of potential errors in the system, even without malicious intent, is incredible. Add a little disingenuousness and the voting process is totally suspect.
At least where we vote we have a paper ballot that is preserved so if computers fail or the race is close, a hand recount is possible. That ought to be a requirement of EVERY voting system in the country.
39632. jexster - 11/3/2008 12:46:48 PM
MSNBC confirms just reported that Florida is a gigantic mess waiting to happen
Two republican state administrations and one GOP Help America Vote Act since Y2K...go figger
39633. jexster - 11/3/2008 12:48:50 PM
They tested the computers here in SF a couple of years ago. I tried one and it broke down in the middle of my voting.
I don't know what is wrong with the scanner system they seem to have settled on. It is hard to make a mistake on the paper ballot..use a black marker to connect lines....the scan provides the electronic speed and there's a paper record.
Why do anything else??
39634. jexster - 11/3/2008 12:50:23 PM
Both NBC and the CBS polls show Obama with about 45% of the white vote..the highest for a white person since that Last Texas Idiot screwed the Democrats back in 1964
39635. jexster - 11/3/2008 12:53:05 PM
90% of Obama supporters now "enthusiastic" - NBC
More voters looking forward to Obama presidency than in either of the 2 Bush eRections

39636. jexster - 11/3/2008 1:01:50 PM
Even Keel for Obama in Final Turn to Election
39637. thoughtful - 11/3/2008 1:02:51 PM
Mark Crispin Miller continues to be on the case against voter fraud (not voter REGISTRATION fraud).
Spoonamore documents how Rove & Connell stole Ohio
There's big news on the Mike Connell case today--although the press, as usual, has not reported it, as ACORN still looms large for them. Thus they have continued to ignore a major story re: McPalin's plan to steal next week's election, as Connell is on the McCain team's payroll, just as he was on Bush/Cheney's payroll in 2000 and 2004. (Now as ever, Karl's in charge.)
First, there's movement on the legal front. As Connell has refused to honor the subpoena calling him to be deposed, the lawyers have filed papers to compel compliance. As reported earlier, Connell has a trio of high-power GOP attorneys working hard to block his deposition until "after the election." His resistance should be major news, of course--and so should this attempt to force him into court.
But even more important is the affidavit filed today by Stephen Spoonamore, the expert witness in this case. In it he lays out how Rove/Connell rigged the contest in Ohio, using the "man in the middle" set-up well-known to computer fraudsters of all kinds.
Here are two items on this latest news: one from Velvet Revolution and ePluribus Media, the other from the excellent Larisa Alexandrovna and Muriel Kane of Raw Story.
MCM
39638. thoughtful - 11/3/2008 1:02:59 PM
I.
10/29/08: Attorneys File To Compel Testimony Of Mike Connell:
Spoonamore Attests That King Pin Attack Manipulated The 2004 Election
Yesterday, Attorneys in Ohio filed papers in federal court to compel the immediate testimony of Michael Connell, the GOP's top IT expert. In short, they argued that Connell, once a willing witness, has hunkered down after threats from Karl Rove and his minions. See Memo here. They allege that Connell is a witness to a crime to steal prior elections, and his knowledge will be helpful to ensure that next week's election is not stolen.
Attached to the motion is a powerful affidavit from Stephen Spoonamore, a cyber-security expert advising the attorneys. Spoonamore states that the 2004 election in Ohio was attacked by a Man in the Middle King Pin computer manipulation that changed the results from Kerry to Bush. See Spoon Declaration here. This is a must read for everyone to see how this was, and can be, done.
The Ohio News Service picked up the story here.
II.
Documents reveal how Ohio routed 2004 voting data
through company that hosted external Bush Administration email accounts
10/31/2008 @ 1:28 pm
Filed by Larisa Alexandrovna and Muriel Kane
Newly obtained computer schematics provide further detail of how electronic voting data was routed during the 2004 election from Ohio's Secretary of State's office through a partisan Tennessee web hosting company.
A network security expert with high-level US government clearances, who is also a former McCain delegate, says the documents - server schematics which trace the architecture created for Ohio's then-Republican Secretary of State and state election chief Kenneth Blackwell - raise troubling questions about the security of electronic voting and the integrity of the 2004 presidential election results.
The flow chart shows how voting information was transferred from Ohio to SmarTech Inc., a Chattanooga Tennessee IT company known for its close association with the Republican Party, before the 2004 election results were displayed online.
39639. jexster - 11/3/2008 1:05:00 PM
Chicago has called all police to duty tomorrow night and asked all businesses to close at 3 pm in anticipation of 1,000,000 at Grant Park
39640. jexster - 11/3/2008 1:11:45 PM
McCain's top Gator switches to Obama
From the Independent Alligator: "...Not all Republicans were there to protest. "I wanted to see the next vice president of the United States,” said Josh Simmons, Gators for McCain chairman.
Simmons said he voted for Obama about two weeks ago.
“I’ve seen a different John McCain than the one I signed up to work for,” he said.
39641. jexster - 11/3/2008 1:15:40 PM
Simmons said he submitted his resignation Sunday night and will no longer be chairman for the group, which has more than 1,000 members. "I expect them to be incredibly pissed off," he said.
39642. jexster - 11/3/2008 1:35:46 PM
Piglin Slams SF Chron for Withholding Obama Tape
"How can anyone suggest that we hid an interview that we did, immediately put up on the Web - and advertised to our readers?" said Diaz. "We promoted it like hell ... and I'm sure the Clinton campaign and the McCain campaign scrubbed it. You can still find the whole 48 minutes and 33 seconds online."
39643. jexster - 11/3/2008 1:51:45 PM
To all those who took my advice; liquidated their 401(k)'s and bought McStain on InTrade
My deepest sympathies, and sincerest apologies

39644. jexster - 11/3/2008 2:29:00 PM
SF Dem Campaign just confirmed my precinct tomorrow starting at 5 - Heart of the Western addition "kind of a sketchy neighborhood"
I be wit mah peeps
39645. thoughtful - 11/3/2008 2:51:13 PM
Must read: Mark Crispin Miller on election fraud
Late last week, the lawyers filed a motion to compel compliance, and to everyone’s surprise and delight, the judge ordered Connell to appear today and to be deposed for two hours about his role in this longstanding electronic plot, basically, to flip votes towards the Republicans.
Some of this deposition will be sealed, and I have to tell you the part that’ll be sealed. Apparently, Rove has threatened Connell. He told him that if Connell did not take the fall for this whole thing, the Department of Justice would start investigating Connell’s wife Heather for improper lobbying practices. Now, that part of the deposition we’re not going to know the answers to....
But what’s really astonishing here is that Karl Rove could make that threat with such impunity. This shut Connell up, and he was, you know, earlier inclined to talk about what was going on. Then he got himself three very expensive Republican attorneys who promised that they would make sure he could not be deposed before Election Day....
39646. jexster - 11/3/2008 3:13:49 PM
Final poll composite
Obama 52%
Major question - how hard will President Obama prosecute Bush Executive Branch corruption?
39647. jexster - 11/3/2008 3:59:05 PM
The McStain camp keeps running to the nearest microphone to tell anyone who still cares that their "internal polls" show they're closing fast
Strategic Vision is a GOP hack operation
39648. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/3/2008 4:26:23 PM
I hope Karl Rove gets stomach cancer!
39649. jexster - 11/3/2008 4:43:51 PM
Here Comes the Ground Game
I beez down wit da Western Addition in SF ...5 am....
39650. thoughtful - 11/3/2008 4:46:02 PM
This is too funny...you mean she's encouraging people to vote democratic???? For $150,000 you'd think she'd have a custom made scarf with ELEPHANTS!!!
39651. jexster - 11/3/2008 4:49:58 PM
She still has a moustache
and still NO MEDICAL RECORDS!
I'd bet T'filled's new manse that Trig's a bastard grandchild or is it Track?
39652. jexster - 11/3/2008 4:53:59 PM
CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Barack Obama says that his grandmother has died. The Democratic presidential candidate announced the news in a joint statement with his sister Maya Soetoro-Ng. He said his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, had died peacefully after a battle with cancer.
He said: "She was the cornerstone of our family, and a woman of extraordinary accomplishment, strength, and humility. She was the person who encouraged and allowed us to take chances."
The candidate learned of her death Monday morning while he was campaigning in Jacksonville, Fla. He planned to go ahead with campaign appearances.
Late last month, Obama took a break from campaigning and flew to Hawaii to be with the 86-year-old Dunham, who helped raise him.
39653. thoughtful - 11/3/2008 5:05:42 PM
Actually, she probably is going to vote for obama...she wants the runway clear of the gop for her run in 2012!
Delusions of grandeur...
39654. thoughtful - 11/3/2008 5:15:28 PM
ten questions to ask palin
1. What are the reasons that you only released your tax returns for 2006 and 2007 -- and not from your years as the paid mayor of Wasilla?
2. How did your family build up more than $1 million in assets, given that as mayor you made $64,000 and your 2006 and 2007 income tax returns show that you and your husband together earned $128,000 in 2006 and $166,000 in 2007?
3. How did you finance the construction of your home, which you value at a half million dollars?
4. Will you show us the invoices from the contractors who built your home and copies of the front and back of the checks with which you paid them?
39655. jexster - 11/3/2008 5:19:13 PM
T'fill...we can only pray that 48 hours from now we're still kicking that CWord around
Yesterday's news..she can't even fill her rally venues
39656. robertjayb - 11/3/2008 5:24:38 PM
Good timing, Granny.
39657. jexster - 11/3/2008 5:29:46 PM
Better than Edwards's breast cancer scam eh Robert?
39658. jexster - 11/3/2008 5:34:33 PM
Notre prochain président
Qui s'appelle Barack Obama

39659. jexster - 11/3/2008 5:36:03 PM
So which shithole icehouse where you'll be kickin back Lone Star and Bevo Brisket with your Jasper bubbas?
39660. jexster - 11/3/2008 5:39:11 PM
Pour quitter l'ignorance
Et arrêter les contes
Et faire vivre le grand pays
Que on voudrait pour nos enfants
Oui on peut - sauver notre pays
Oui on peut - reprendre notres vies
Oui on peut - changer notre histoire
Oui on peut - vivre dans l'espoir
39661. jexster - 11/3/2008 5:46:25 PM
May she rest in peace and rise in glory
39662. jexster - 11/3/2008 5:46:45 PM
Fuck Texas. Amen
39663. jexster - 11/3/2008 6:13:19 PM
The Deformities Draw Tiny Crowds
Fox Flummoxed
Kicking off the last day of the election in Tampa, Florida, John McCain was welcomed by a roughly 1,000 voters. Compare that to the 15,000 people that President Bush drew to a rally in Tampa on the eve of the 2004 election. "What's up with that?" wrote Adam Smith at the St. Petersburg Times.
Even Fox News had a bit of difficulty spinning the whole thing. Carl Cameron, who is following the Senator at every stop on Monday, said the crowd size was likely "a little bit disturbing" for the McCain campaign. He added that organizers had set up the venue predicting ten times the number of attendees.
39664. jexster - 11/3/2008 6:24:59 PM
Houston On Edge: City Anxiously Awaits Return of Texas's Favorite Son
39665. jexster - 11/3/2008 6:28:07 PM
MS GOP Senate Candidate Pretends He is a Democrat in Mailer
Bet Cornyn's not doing same
How does it feel to be lower rent than Mississippi Robert?
39666. iiibbb - 11/3/2008 7:54:31 PM
So... after we get through this thing. What should we do about the elections?
I kinda like the Oregon system, where every vote is a mail-in. Paper ballots. No lines.
39667. jexster - 11/3/2008 7:58:26 PM
Oregon bites
Let's have our eRections when our Founding Fathers' intended.

39668. jexster - 11/3/2008 8:11:36 PM
Maysurin the Drapes at Langley!
*
IN-Pres
Nov 3 PPP (D)
Obama (D) 49%, McCain (R) 48%

39669. jexster - 11/3/2008 8:13:14 PM
39670. jexster - 11/3/2008 8:15:34 PM

39671. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/3/2008 8:22:36 PM
In case you missed Bill Maher's election recap:
39672. jexster - 11/3/2008 8:28:51 PM
Oh..thanks....just what I wanted to see
39673. jexster - 11/3/2008 8:29:23 PM
Anyone hear from Concerned
I'm CONCERNED

39674. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/3/2008 8:31:48 PM

39675. iiibbb - 11/3/2008 9:05:37 PM
Olberman's special comment tonight was pretty stupid. I don't think it's a wise thing to do to paste together Obama clips to get him to say things he didn't.
Good thing it's the night before the election... that stuff could go viral and hurt Obama.
39676. jexster - 11/3/2008 9:24:00 PM
"My Lord, I feel something is happening"
Volunteering for an inspired Obama campaign in Pittsburgh, I couldn't help feeling that politics is being reinvented.

39677. jexster - 11/3/2008 9:47:16 PM
Karl Rove Predicts Obama Blowout
The architect is not optimistic.
Karl Rove, who is widely credited as the mastermind behind President Bush's election victories in 2000 and 2004, predicts that Democratic nominee Barack Obama will win Tuesday's election with 338 electoral votes while Republican John McCain garners 200.
39678. jexster - 11/3/2008 10:20:53 PM
Why has America turned on Sarah Palin?
39679. jexster - 11/3/2008 10:31:40 PM
Ms. Dunham’s absentee mail ballot was received and reviewed under the Hawaii standards for processing absentee mail ballots… She was alive at that time. Her ballot will be opened tomorrow, and it will be counted in the same way that all absentee voters would be treated under our law. Hawaii Dept of eRections
39680. jexster - 11/3/2008 11:07:46 PM
The Final Obama Rally appropriately in Manassas VA
A kazillion people..so many that the CNN cameras couldn't catch them all....
39681. magoseph - 11/4/2008 7:36:09 AM
Fired Up, Ready to Go?
39682. David Ehrenstein - 11/4/2008 9:27:46 AM
Latest FaBlog: Mr. Sheri Annis Discoevrs His Inner Racist
39683. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 10:25:08 AM
Today I am a racist, socialist, Marxist, terrorist, sympathizer, sympathizer.
39684. Wombat - 11/4/2008 10:37:41 AM
Congratulations!
39685. magoseph - 11/4/2008 10:51:57 AM
Today is my tenth election--maybe by the end of the day, I will have succeeded at voting for the winner four times out of ten.
39686. thoughtful - 11/4/2008 11:09:12 AM
voting in my town this am was quick and easy. it's clear they added more capacity for handling the higher turnout. hubby went later this am and said it was busy but no real waiting. election lady said she wished the turnout was so high for all the elections.
my biggest concern were the two people standing side by side the requisite 75' away from the voting place, each holding a sign for competing local reps and carrying on a rather loud conversation! Had the potential for getting ugly.
39687. wabbit - 11/4/2008 11:18:14 AM
My diehard dittohead father went with me to vote this morning, so I was treated to his steady stream of Limburger vomit about Obama and liberals. Hmmm, I wonder who he voted for? According to him, the Democrats are voting three or four times each this year. I guess that explains the cars… the parking lot was jammed, cars lined up down the street, but once we got into the school to vote, it took less than five minutes. Evidently most of those cars brought only one person who was either conducting a bake sale or holding a sign.
39688. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/4/2008 11:21:47 AM
Dear Barack Obama: Can we start killing Conservatives, aborting full-term babies and acting like communist Islamofascists yet?
Conservatives, today, you are all going to die and The United States of America will instantly transform into the United Socialist States of Islamic Baby Eaters. And with the blood of your newborn children running down our chins, we - the victorious - will all simultaneously pray to Allah as Barack Obama summons Satan and all the horrific things from Revelations (the only part of the New Testament any of you have read) will come true in all its flaming, semen-drenched glory.
Good times, baby-eaters, good times.
We liberals all know that we are soon to live in a conservative-free world where everyone’s gay - except for the gays who will be double-gay - and where babies can be legally aborted up to the age of 17. We know that soon we will all be free to marry pandas and then force the pandas to abort their babies and have hot, gay panda-on-panda orgies while we all masturbate furiously in church.
We know this because conservatives have made it clear that’s what’s going to happen should Barack Obama become President.
Yes, Conservatives, you have made it clear that Barack Obama is the anti-christ. That Obama is a Marxist. That Obama is a baby-killer. That Obama is a terrorist. That Obama is a secret Muslim. That Obama is Malcolm X’s illegitimate son. That Obama’s a Black Panther. That Obama is Hitler. That Obama is going to kill Israel. That Obama serves Lucifer. That Obama is all these things and much, much more.
So Conservatives, starting tomorrow we'll be enslaving your dogs, defecating on your guns and making sweet, sweet homosexual love to Islamofacist Satanist baby-killers. We know all this will happen because so many of you believe that a victory by the other party in America’s two-party system will be the end of the planet as we know it. We know it will happen because your radical behavior before this election, and the because of the even-more radical behavior so many of you are sure to showcase after the election.
Luckily for Conservatives, we liberals believe in America, as well. We believe in Democracy. We believe that even if John McCain somehow wins the Presidency, America will live on. We believe in Americans. Even though so many Conservatives don't.
-WKW
39689. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 11:30:08 AM
I went when the polls opened. I had 25 people ahead of me for 3 machines.
39690. Wombat - 11/4/2008 11:38:40 AM
My 11-year-old son and I strolled down to the local high school to vote at 10:00 am. The line was a little longer than usual. Got in and out in about 15 minutes. McCain signs were more prevalent, which speaks more to the enthusiasm of the local precinct captain than to reality (Obama should win our part of Maryland by at least 3-1).
39691. vonKreedon - 11/4/2008 12:02:33 PM
There were about 36 people waiting at my polling place when the polls opened at 7AM. Things went smoothly, though we ended up with all the polling booths filled and people scattered around the room filling in the little optical bubbles. Took me about 20 from the time the poll opened to inserting my ballot in the reader.
39692. alistairconnor - 11/4/2008 12:44:59 PM
I'm confused. I thought election day was tomorrow?
(I must remember to vote in the NZ elections, this saturday... I can download a PDF ballot paper and fax it back!)
39693. thoughtful - 11/4/2008 12:50:19 PM
No AC...first tuesday in november.
I don't understand how one goes about policing a faxed ballot or a mail-in ballot. Especially with the faxed ballot, there has always been this thing to leave the voter with no receipt of how s/he voted as it's too easy to corrupt votes for payment...bring me a receipt showing you voted for x and i'll pay you $$.
39694. jexster - 11/4/2008 12:53:33 PM
Out this morning at 4....just back from door hanging, first poll check...an hour wait for the people who lined up at 7 ..similar lines at every precinct I passed
Never seen turnout like this
39695. jexster - 11/4/2008 1:01:04 PM
39696. wonkers2 - 11/4/2008 1:04:19 PM
It's gonna be a BLOWOUT! Record turnouts in Tucson. People with election signs on most busy intersections.
39697. jexster - 11/4/2008 1:06:52 PM
Last polls show O has opened a nice lead in the Old Dominion
Fitting that his final rally was held at Manassas
39698. jexster - 11/4/2008 1:07:19 PM
U moving to Sun City Wonkers?
39699. jexster - 11/4/2008 1:07:45 PM
We're going to destroy them
Now I have to find a fat republican to carve
39700. jexster - 11/4/2008 1:09:23 PM
The Deformities Bid You Adieu

39701. jexster - 11/4/2008 1:23:00 PM
TWO Official SF Parties
1. CA dems, No on 8 etc - Westin St Francis and Union Square
for those who want to get laid:
2. Generation Obama - The Mezzanine
3. Castro/18th
39702. jexster - 11/4/2008 1:36:44 PM
Pity Poor Charlie Crist
Miss thing went and married hissef a beard so he could be VP....
39703. jexster - 11/4/2008 1:40:49 PM
Nate Silver v. Sam Wang - Ultimate Fighting Smackdown 2008
Silver:
39704. jexster - 11/4/2008 1:42:38 PM
He Gots a Bassaball Jones
Obama shoots hoops every eRection day:
39705. jexster - 11/4/2008 2:02:44 PM
We're going to have a big win and Dems deserve a big win. It's just too bad that Democrats always have to clean up giant Republican messes
Hillary Clinton Rodham
39706. jexster - 11/4/2008 2:12:05 PM
Jeff Zelny, NyT national pol reporter, is in Chicago
39707. jexster - 11/4/2008 2:15:43 PM
America Deformed: The Sad Campaign of John McStain
ThePolitico's Tire Swinger
39708. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/4/2008 2:35:35 PM
Rock!

39709. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 2:55:22 PM
39710. thoughtful - 11/4/2008 3:33:50 PM
The thing is, I know of a lot of people in my area who are voting for mccain....but I was also surprised to learn that there is someone, a real dyed in the wool goper, who is voting for obama...and someone else too who usually goes gop who is going with obama. So I really don't know. It's all a function of who shows up....
...and who counts the votes!
39711. thoughtful - 11/4/2008 3:38:04 PM
from MCM:
Mike Connell dummied up at his deposition yesterday, saying repeatedly that he knew nuttin' about nuttin'. Well-guarded by a unit of Republican attorneys, Rove's longtime IT fixer professed no knowledge of attempts to rig the vote in the Ohio contest four years back, or of any "Trojan horses"--leftover bits of code that might be used to slant the outcome of the race tonight.
Connell's GOP attorneys jumped in frequently to tell their client to shut up. For example, they did not let Connell answer this question: "Who directed you to set up the 'Swift Boat Veterans for Truth' IT network?"
As tight-lipped as he was, however, Connell did let slip one detail of immense significance. Asked if he'd brought SmartTech and Triad, two private IT companies owned by fierce partisans (and dedicated Christianists), into the Ohio election game,
Connell admitted that he did. (At first he denied bringing SmartTech in, but then
admitted it.)
This was a major revelation, as it confirms the view--long advanced by expert witness Stephen Spoonamore--that SmartTech and Triad played key roles in stealing the 2004 election. (SmartTech ran Ohio's election results through its GOP-supported servers in Chattanooga, then sent it back to SoS Blackwell's website: a classic "man in the middle" set-up favored by computer fraudsters, according to Spoonamore. Triad interfered with the recount by pulling hard drives from county-level tabulators.)
Otherwise, Connell sang a song of perfect innocence, denying that there were "any
problems" with the voting systems in Ohio--and, furthermore, that he "does not know of any vulnerablities" in any voting systems anywhere! In short, his message was that everything is fine, there's been no fraud in past election, and there won't be
any fraud today. So everyone should just forget the whole thing, and go home.
The deposition yesterday served two important purposes. First of all, it adds some extra punch to the big racketeering case that the attorneys have been building against Bush & Co. for months.
And, just as important, Mike Connell and his team are now on notice that they're working under very careful scrutiny. So they might now be less inclined to risk another electronic theft of an American election.
39712. jexster - 11/4/2008 4:25:38 PM
Black Panthers Intimidate Voters in Philadephia
39713. jexster - 11/4/2008 4:41:07 PM
Stand up! Stand up! Stand up and fight! We never give up! We never quit! We never hide from history; we make history!”
39714. Wombat - 11/4/2008 4:47:17 PM
I put in some time at Obama HQ in Bethesda this afternoon, calling people in Pennsylvania and urging them to get out and vote. Mostly got answering machines.
39715. wabbit - 11/4/2008 4:48:51 PM
Fox News on voter problems in Philadelphia
If true, it is inexcusable. If you are intimidating voters, go directly to jail for the next four-eight years, depending, and you forfeit your right to participate in this election and maybe the next. If the Black Panthers, or the Klan, or anyone else, are stupid enough to be there intimidating anyone, poll workers, voters, whoever, they need to be thrown in jail pronto, and anyone who was so intimidated that they left needs to file a complaint and be allowed to vote, tomorrow if necessary. Seriously, they are in Philadelphia — have these morons forgotten MOVE?
More than that, Obama needs to call them out on this. ASAP.
39716. jexster - 11/4/2008 4:53:19 PM
Wabbit shouldn't watch Fox News 39712
39717. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 4:56:58 PM
Damn I almost forgot to make my prediction.
I'm going for the blowout option ... IN, MO, AZ,GA.
Would have added ND but I like round numbers.
39718. pelty - 11/4/2008 4:57:38 PM
"More than that, Obama needs to call them out on this. ASAP."
WhyDon't hold your breath. More than likely, he sent them there!
39719. jexster - 11/4/2008 4:58:36 PM

39720. wonkers2 - 11/4/2008 5:00:59 PM
I wonder if the individual depicted was actually a Black PANTHER as he was called by the Faux reporter. Clearly he was black but I thought the Panthers went out of business 30 years ago???
39721. jexster - 11/4/2008 5:01:22 PM
I'll call em out Wabbit!
Barack's busy
Let's go yo!

39722. jexster - 11/4/2008 5:01:51 PM
Notice the FRENCH berets
39723. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 5:02:12 PM
"More than likely, he sent them there!"
Just out of curiosity, Pelty, are you serious?
39724. jexster - 11/4/2008 5:03:30 PM
Send in the Bloods
39725. pelty - 11/4/2008 5:09:13 PM
"Just out of curiosity, Pelty, are you serious?"
No, but he certainly would not disassociate himself from them unless he felt it would harm him (see Rev. Wright), but now that the die is cast, what does he care?
39726. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 5:11:21 PM
Message # 39717
I don't think Obama will take AZ, GA, IN, NC... Obama's tightest victory will be MO.
NC and MO will be the tightest, so if either of those went the other way from my prediction I wouldn't be surprised.
39727. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 5:12:55 PM
So here's mine...
39728. wabbit - 11/4/2008 5:13:36 PM
Jexster, Message # 39716 I was timing how long it would take you to mention that. Almost five whole minutes. And I checked CNN, MSNBC, even the Philly news and couldn't find another video. We'll see if it pans out, but having lived there, I won't be surprised if it's true.
pelty ... sheesh, nevermind.
39729. jexster - 11/4/2008 5:14:27 PM
On the verge of Osama's eRection, Baghdad's blowing up
Wait til he takes the Oath to the Caliph on the Holy Q'uran or will it be Das Kapital????
39730. jexster - 11/4/2008 5:15:22 PM
You just hate Philly
I heart them
39731. jexster - 11/4/2008 5:16:19 PM
You do know that the Panthers are OakTown boyz!
39732. jexster - 11/4/2008 5:17:51 PM
Wabbit's a Southie!
39733. jexster - 11/4/2008 5:24:43 PM
The polling place where I was earlier

39734. thoughtful - 11/4/2008 5:27:32 PM
I'm telling you, if obama doesn't win this election, there's going to be all kinds of hell to pay about voter fraud. There is so much evidence of lousy election processes already...funny how so many of them are in swing states. Problem is neither party has a real incentive to clean it up.
What ever happen to the elected officials who are supposed to represent the best interests of the voters???
We'll know in a few hours...
39735. thoughtful - 11/4/2008 5:29:15 PM
As of 2:45pm, Election Protection has received over 48,000 calls to the 1-866-OUR-VOTE Hotline since the phones opened at 5:30am this morning.
FLORIDA: We have received more than 30 calls from voters all across the state concerned that their precinct's optical scan machine is not working. When this occurs, ballots are supposed to be placed in a “a secure bin" under the voting machine. Because of the volume of ballots, these bins are now filling up. We have received several reports of poll workers collecting ballots in a bag, which is not in accordance with the law. Election Protection is working with local election officials to ensure that all votes that have yet to be counted due to optical scan malfunctions are placed in secure locations.
MICHIGAN: As of 11:45 a.m. EST, voters on Detroit’s east side were waiting five hours to vote in 1,000-person long line at Beth Eden Baptist, largely as a result of an understaffed polling operation. An Election Protection partner law firm on the ground in Detroit is investigating the situation.
OHIO: Voters in several Ohio counties reported to Election Protection problems at their polling location due to poll workers not accepting proper identification and forcing the voters to cast provisional ballots.
VIRGINIA: Many machine issues from early this morning have been resolved but we continue to see major residual effects in the Chesapeake area where some voters are waiting in five to six hour lines.
39736. jexster - 11/4/2008 5:44:00 PM
Now he tells us! Joe Scarborough on MSNBC reports from his FL GOP people...Obama won this race weeks ago with his ground game
39737. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 5:54:51 PM
Really bad idea... weapons at a polling location. I don't care who's side you're on...
39738. jexster - 11/4/2008 6:16:44 PM
Right to bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
39739. jexster - 11/4/2008 6:17:44 PM
Tim Roemer and wife just checked in w/ bro
from the VIP Tent at Grant Park
Stoked
Panthers everywhere
39740. jexster - 11/4/2008 6:19:00 PM
i3 thinks a long black stick is a weapon!
What a girl
39741. jexster - 11/4/2008 6:29:55 PM
Obama 11,000
McStain 8,000
39742. jexster - 11/4/2008 6:32:35 PM
CNN Exit Poll shows that voters making 100K+ went 52/47 for the Socialist candidate
39743. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 6:37:00 PM
Message # 79738
I didn't say they didn't have a right... I said it was a bad idea.
And it reinforces my position that if you do feel the need to pack something... keep it concealed. It's more polite.
39744. jexster - 11/4/2008 6:45:20 PM
I have come to the considered opinion that you are definitely NOT part of God's plan
39745. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 6:55:59 PM
I have enough gay friends that I don't think I could count them easily.
39746. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 7:01:13 PM
I don't know how gay that makes me.
39747. jexster - 11/4/2008 7:14:33 PM
If you are truly concerned
Pat Buchanan has declared "the end of the conservative error that began with Richard Nixon. This is looking like 1932"
Keep concerned away from rope, open windows, sharp objects and sleeping pills
39748. jexster - 11/4/2008 7:15:19 PM
I didn't say you were a mud monkey
I just said you weren't part of God's plan
39749. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 7:17:18 PM
It's 1:16 over here. I'm not intending to make a night of it, but I've opened a second beer...
39750. wabbit - 11/4/2008 7:19:57 PM
iiibbb, Message # 39737, my point exactly. Clearly too high a concept for some.
That must be the cellphone video I heard about.
Anybody know what the distance is that anti-choice folks have to stay from people trying to go into a Planned Parenthood facility?
39751. jexster - 11/4/2008 7:25:04 PM
We're going to take IN I think
39752. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 7:27:12 PM
300k votes counted in Indiana... swing from 2004 is +9 to Obama.
375 to 400 is my serious EV prediction.
39753. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 7:32:50 PM
I will be happy to be that wrong.
39754. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 7:36:43 PM
... anyone heard of Thomas Stevens, Objectivist Party? He's polling serious votes in Florida...
+0.8 for Obama, -18.4 pour McCain...
Barack Obama Dem. 133,535 47.9%
John McCain Rep. 93,822 33.7
Thomas Stevens Obj 49,587 17.8
39755. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 7:40:45 PM
scratch Thomas Stevens... must have been a mis-tabulation, he's now down to 63 votes in Florida...
9% swing to O in Fl
39756. wabbit - 11/4/2008 7:41:57 PM
But fyi, AC, he's an Ayn Rand devotee.
39757. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 7:46:11 PM
I'm a little bit obsessed with picking results from early partial counts... must have got the bug back in 1984... I carefully tabulated previous polling place results, and knew from the first few hundred votes that my candidate for NZ parliament had come 4th (and God said, Gary come forth!) ... I was managing his campaign, he was standing for Labour which won nationally with a crushing majority... two-party system... I plead attenuating circomstances. The candidate was a dickhead, for one thing.
39758. jexster - 11/4/2008 7:50:27 PM
Crowds of angry blacks are roaming the streets of Chicago beating up white people
39759. jexster - 11/4/2008 7:51:22 PM
Indiana's going blue..Roemer reports a HUGE turnout in Demo counties
39760. jexster - 11/4/2008 7:52:35 PM
39757
Hands out lit for the Green Party at SNCF stations
39761. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 7:52:57 PM
Earliest results in Virginia not looking good... (but small sample size)
Blow-out for O continues in Fl
39762. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 7:54:05 PM
Hands out lit for the Green Party at SNCF stations
Shit, I've handed out lit for CHIRAC at SNCF stations.
39763. jexster - 11/4/2008 7:55:35 PM
Obama's doing well around Tampa very good sign
39764. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 7:59:26 PM
I'm enjoying the Spongebob movie right now... when this is over maybe we'll know something.
(have to keep up with the nephews).
39765. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 8:02:40 PM
17% swing to O in NC
but I'm guessing that's about which counties are reporting.
Likewise, not too upset yet about Virginia swinging away from the Democrat... no reports yet from the un-real counties of the north.
39766. jexster - 11/4/2008 8:11:02 PM
PA goes O
Scarborough calls PA "fools gold for the GOP"
39767. jexster - 11/4/2008 8:12:19 PM
Obama's doing better than expected in SW VA
Richmond, NVA not in
Just as with Webb I think the key is Norfuck, VA Beach, Newport News...tight there..Obama takes it
39768. anomie - 11/4/2008 8:13:17 PM
CNN is showing Grant Park in Chicago - my home sweet hometown. Wish I was there...
39769. anomie - 11/4/2008 8:14:26 PM
Oh, and in Phoenix they're showing some choir singing dirges...
39770. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 8:16:17 PM
My girlfriend Caroline (Kristin) is... if she managed to get a ticket. Hell, she's probably appointed herself to the job of filling O's water glass by now. Classic Trotskyite entryism tactics.
39771. anomie - 11/4/2008 8:19:04 PM
Best of luck to her, AC. They say there will be a large overflow of ticketless folks. There's plenty of park space in and around Grant Park.
39772. alistairConnor - 11/4/2008 8:25:29 PM
According to the exit polls, I don't get Georgia, but I'm happy with Missouri and Indiana... On track for 375
39773. jexster - 11/4/2008 8:28:43 PM
White working class voters in PA went for Obama
Obama's getting a higher % of the white vote in NC even though 30% of white people said race was a factor
Coast to Coast we're voting for the Nigger..at least enuf of us are
39774. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/4/2008 8:29:31 PM

39775. jexster - 11/4/2008 9:25:40 PM
OH goes for O
Our new national flag
O!le Gorey

39776. jexster - 11/4/2008 9:33:14 PM

39777. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/4/2008 10:30:08 PM
Chris Shays = DEAD MEAT!!!!!!!!
39778. jexster - 11/4/2008 10:30:32 PM
EEEEEEEEEEWW
Just went down to the store ...got hugged by a nigger
39779. jexster - 11/4/2008 10:32:59 PM
9:58 PM ... Chris Shays, last House GOPer in the Northeast concedes defeat.
39780. jexster - 11/4/2008 11:02:00 PM
CNN:
Obama is the President-Elect
8 pm
39781. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 11:08:14 PM
I'm proud of two of my old states. I wish I could've been there to join them... but there was an interesting election here too.
39782. jexster - 11/4/2008 11:18:01 PM
This City is erupting like it did when the Niners won their first Super Bowl
39783. jexster - 11/4/2008 11:23:12 PM
Obama Sweeps to Victory, Will Become 44th President
39784. jexster - 11/4/2008 11:23:50 PM
McStain is admitting he is a failure
39785. jexster - 11/4/2008 11:24:35 PM

39786. jexster - 11/4/2008 11:29:06 PM
McStain ALMOST got it right
He is not an American worthy of the name
Some Great White Hope there
39787. jexster - 11/4/2008 11:32:33 PM
I can see the buses now
"BLACKS ONLY"
39788. jexster - 11/4/2008 11:34:35 PM
How come Miss MooseTwat was nowhere to be seen in Ole Yeller Stain's hour of agony?
39789. iiibbb - 11/4/2008 11:41:05 PM
Are they really going to commercial over the National Anthem??! MSNBC... yeesh
39790. jexster - 11/4/2008 11:41:39 PM
Reagan County Tejas
McStain 795
Colored boy 197
Remind me again why we shouldn't give that dung heap back to the Mexicans?
39791. arkymalarky - 11/4/2008 11:48:52 PM
Wow.
39792. jexster - 11/4/2008 11:56:46 PM
Must see TV - The Fox News panel
39793. alistairConnor - 11/5/2008 2:54:34 AM
Hey am I good?
If Missouri comes through (currently 49.4% each with 99% counted!) then that would be 375 as predicted.
(You knew I was joking about Arizona and Georgia?)
39794. jexster - 11/5/2008 5:28:42 AM
The Dream of our Fathers is Alive
39795. jexster - 11/5/2008 5:48:51 AM
I can't believe Stevens kept his seat.
39796. jexster - 11/5/2008 5:54:10 AM
NC hangs in then I nailed it..I think
Indiana was a ballsy call...not even Roemer would go that far. But Barack did.
39797. jexster - 11/5/2008 5:57:48 AM

39798. jexster - 11/5/2008 5:59:58 AM
There may no longer be a Bradley effect but there is a Stevens effect. Alaskans don't have the stones to tell a pollster that they'd vote for a convicted felon
39799. jexster - 11/5/2008 6:01:46 AM
I fear that Wild Negroes will want to have their way with me now. This is not good
39800. jexster - 11/5/2008 6:02:49 AM
A Chinese friend quipped "Now white people will be cleaning our houses"
39801. alistairconnor - 11/5/2008 6:50:18 AM
For six thousand lousy votes in Missouri, I miss my prediction...
Should I appeal to the courts?
39802. OhioSTOPAS - 11/5/2008 6:50:28 AM
Good morning, all! And I mean GOOD!
The state of Ohio humbly accepts the thanks of a grateful nation.
39803. alistairconnor - 11/5/2008 6:52:30 AM
You realise of course that you people had nothing to do with it?
You could have lain down and let yourselves be robbed as usual, and Obama would still have won handsomely?
Feels good?
39804. alistairconnor - 11/5/2008 6:54:26 AM
From the Chicago party, French faction :
Yes we did! 
39805. thoughtful - 11/5/2008 8:49:16 AM
Does this mean we'll have to change the name of 1600 pennsylvania ave to the black house???
I'm just delighted obama has won. Not only because it will put an end to the failed goper policies (and give the dems a shot at their failed policies) and will help restore our supreme court to a more centralized balance but because it restores my faith in the voting system. Diebold, at least this time around, is NOT running the election.
As i was catching clips of obama's acceptance speech it just warmed the cockles of my heart to hear someone who's going to be president who, as maureen dowd described it so many years ago, if the wind blows his papers away, he'll be able to finish the speech anyway!
Let's hear it for the victory of the intellectual elite!
39806. iiibbb - 11/5/2008 8:54:38 AM
I am most happy to give the GOP a gut check. I think what made me most angry the past 8 years is they took squeaker victories and acted like they were mandates.
Now they're going to be reminded what a "mandate" looks like.
Now my hope is that the Democrats won't screw this up. I strongly feel that Obama will work for the middle, so I think it'll be okay.
39807. thoughtful - 11/5/2008 9:15:29 AM
My big concern is that the gopers will view this loss as a result of a failure by w instead of the larger failure of their policies.
crony capitalism, neoconism, anti-intellectualism, antinomianism, authoritarianism, and the fundamental belief that government can't be a force for good but can be a force for personal gain, are all examples of their policy failures. W was simply the culmination of what they've been pushing for the last several decades.
You can chalk up the big failures to their policies: katrina, iraq war, 9/11, financial crisis. And you can chalk up their failure to enact key policies as the saving grace of the past 8 years esp not privatizing social security!
39808. judithathome - 11/5/2008 9:33:45 AM
You realise of course that you people had nothing to do with it?
Not true! I woke up to a letter from "Barack" this morning that said "This happened because of you."
;-)
39809. David Ehrenstein - 11/5/2008 9:51:01 AM
Has concerned committed ritual seppuku yet?
39810. pelty - 11/5/2008 9:55:38 AM
"Now my hope is that the Democrats won't screw this up."
There is a first time for everything, I suppose.
The Republicans got what they deserved for being a party willing to compromise their core values and I, for one, am happy to see it happen.
39811. pelty - 11/5/2008 10:10:34 AM
"Not true! I woke up to a letter from 'Barack' this morning that said 'This happened because of you.'"
Already playing the "blame game," are they? ;-)
39812. iiibbb - 11/5/2008 10:10:50 AM
They screw it up by not going after the core of this mandate.
Economy
War
Health care
Voting reform/standardization
That's what they should focus on. Their grasp of the middle has not crystallized, and won't for 8-12 years. So if they get distracted (like the Republicans did, or like the Democrats did 1992-1994) the pendulum will swing back fast and hard. This election has many facets. It was a referendum on Bush, I think a lot of people like me see Obama for his gifts, it was a denouncement of Palin, and the Economy took a turn at the last minute that helped Obama immensely (electoral-vote.com's graphs show that it was shaping up like the last month of the Kerry election right before the bailout).
So yes. I hope the Democrats don't screw it up by trying to go too far too fast and before they've consolidated this mandate.
39813. pelty - 11/5/2008 10:17:35 AM
I think you go too far saying it is a "denouncement of Palin." Her lack of international experience differs little from Obamas, to be fair, and she has more time in an executive seat than he. Now, she is not ready to be a VP, but then again, Obama isn't ready to be president and that didn't stop the electorate.
Bush + economy + someone who can speak in full sentences = victory.
39814. iiibbb - 11/5/2008 10:31:42 AM
Palin was an end-of-days whackjob who pandered to the worst in their base.
Obama was the only candidate who was always looking more two steps ahead.
Although both their resume's are "thin", there is an obvious difference between them.
There were scenarios where Obama would've had his hands full. Hindsight being 20/20, if McCain had waited to "suspend" his campaign, and came out against the bailout... that might've been the game-changer he was hunting for.
39815. wonkers2 - 11/5/2008 10:39:30 AM
Palin might make a good late night Chrisitian radio talk show host.
39816. wonkers2 - 11/5/2008 10:44:33 AM
Joe "Babbitt" Knollenberg, dead meat! For the first time in 35 years I have a Democratic representative in Congress--Gary Peters! His campaign manager is a good friend of mine.
39817. jexster - 11/5/2008 10:56:11 AM
No dogs marryin crickets in CA
39818. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/5/2008 10:59:12 AM
I'm really shocked that Norm Scumbag Coleman won.
39819. alistairconnor - 11/5/2008 11:01:25 AM
Tful : it restores my faith in the voting system. Diebold, at least this time around, is NOT running the election.
No, that's not what happened... The margin was so big this time that the election was unstealable. The electoral system is still broken, a disgrace and a laughing stock.
What actually happened in Georgia?
39820. David Ehrenstein - 11/5/2008 11:04:35 AM
Not so sure abotu that "win," Wiz. He declared victory but Al won't concede and there's likely to be a run-off.
39821. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/5/2008 11:05:03 AM

39822. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/5/2008 11:05:47 AM
Oh David, I pray you're correct!
39823. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/5/2008 11:07:06 AM

39824. wabbit - 11/5/2008 11:33:58 AM
The Teaching Company has a 30 minute video available called Voting: Determining the Will of the People. It's game theory applied to elections. I thought some of you might be interested in watching — skip the last three minutes, which is promotional for TTC.
39825. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/5/2008 11:44:04 AM
Thanks for the heads up, wabb--what a coincidence--I just downloaded their Romantic Poets lecture series, last week.
39826. wabbit - 11/5/2008 11:56:51 AM
Every so often they'll put something up for free — I thought this lecture was worth seeing in light of the inevitable post-election analysis.
39827. jexster - 11/5/2008 12:06:36 PM
Nice work Wizzer, thanks for the Vid Wabbit
Looks like we'll be keeping Mentum with us
39828. jexster - 11/5/2008 12:14:33 PM
Wabbit that's why SF has Ranked Choice voting and I HATE IT
I refuse to vote the "instant runoff" races
39829. jexster - 11/5/2008 12:20:02 PM
The Obama Revolution
By JOHN F. HARRIS & JIM VANDEHEI |
Beyond the symbolism of Barack Obama’s victory, the reality of power in Washington changed more profoundly than meets the eye.
39830. jexster - 11/5/2008 12:26:00 PM
I need a link to Concerned's SS picture.
Someone has to say SOMETHING!
Democrats have the capital in a headlock, holding more power at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue than they have had for at least 32 years (Jimmy Carter) and, more realistically, 44 years (Johnson). Obama seems ready to press this advantage. The best early clue of his ambitions: He wants sharp-elbowed Democratic Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) to run his White House.
Democrats are positioned to do more than move legislation. They will flush Republicans out of key positions in the federal government and lobbying firms. They will install their people in the federal courts. They will be positioned to raise money for those who usually give to Republicans and easily recruit the most desirable candidates in 2010, as other Democrats look to join what looks like a winning team.
39831. thoughtful - 11/5/2008 12:35:18 PM
ac, elections are never unstealable....
39832. thoughtful - 11/5/2008 12:39:27 PM
the way the dems can/will screw this up is by losing focus on what's best for the nation as a whole and being as corrupt as the gopers in listening to the lobbyists and special interests over what's best and right for the country.
Why don't they start with restoring some of our lost civil liberties? Why don't they start with fixing, say, the bankruptcy law so it isn't easier for a person to keep a 2nd vacation home than it is for a homeowner to keep his owner-occupied home? How about some sound fiscal stimulus aimed at the unemployed and some infrastructure spending?
Time will tell.
39833. jexster - 11/5/2008 1:33:17 PM
From SFObama Listserv
39834. jexster - 11/5/2008 1:45:57 PM
George W. Bush will be overcome with pride to welcome President Obama his lovely wife and his beautiful children to the White House.
39835. anomie - 11/5/2008 2:00:05 PM
Thoughtful, I couldn't agree more. I hope Obama quickly restores the balance of power and starts using courts as a partner in the surveillance programs instead of an enemy, and respects due processed for those detained or accused.
39836. anomie - 11/5/2008 2:01:54 PM
I mean who really wants to live in a country where citizens can disappear at the hands of their government without being able to put up a defense or be represented. Sounds like Argentina in the 70's. Bye bye Bush.
39837. jexster - 11/5/2008 2:03:07 PM
Cry Like a Bitch: Pigin in Tears After Loss
39838. jexster - 11/5/2008 2:04:49 PM
After McCain's loss, she phoned supporters attending an event at the Wasilla Multi-Use Sports Complex.
"Wasilla, are you there?" she asked.
39839. jexster - 11/5/2008 2:06:48 PM
I'll tell ya, Wasilla - and everybody there in Alaska - I am just proud to be able to represent Wasilla.
39840. anomie - 11/5/2008 2:14:02 PM
...and can we hang Lieberman now?
39841. jexster - 11/5/2008 2:16:55 PM
I have just received instruction from Chicago.
My cell is now active and executing operational orders
Travel is approved to the following Tejas Counties ONLY
1. Travis
2. Dallas
3. Harris
4. BeXar
5. El Paso
6. Jefferson
7. And just about any Beaner County along the Rio Grande
Anyone entering these counties without authorization will be shot
39842. jexster - 11/5/2008 2:38:51 PM
President and Vice President
580 out of 580 precincts (100.00 %)
Votes Percent
JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN 30,888 13.11 %
CYNTHIA MCKINNEY AND ROSA CLEMENTE 1,077 0.46 %
ALAN KEYES AND WILEY S. DRAKE, SR. 266 0.11 %
RALPH NADER AND MATT GONZALEZ 2,453 1.04 %
BARACK OBAMA AND JOE BIDEN 198,989 84.45 %
BOB BARR AND WAYNE A. ROOT 1,128 0.48 %
WRITE-IN 828 0.35 %
39843. jexster - 11/5/2008 2:39:36 PM
Rahmbo is COS
39844. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/5/2008 2:51:05 PM
This image below comes from The Times Of India--I wonder when we'll get marj's report.
39845. robertjayb - 11/5/2008 2:58:07 PM
So Rahm Emanuel is O's son-of-a-bitch?
39846. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/5/2008 2:59:48 PM
39826. wabbit - 11/5/2008 11:56:51 AM
Every so often they'll put something up for free — I thought this lecture was worth seeing in light of the inevitable post-election analysis.
I've downloaded three lecture series from them and two are first rate.
39847. jexster - 11/5/2008 4:06:32 PM
Indians are such suck asses
39848. jexster - 11/5/2008 4:25:37 PM
Yes Robert...we'll be doin bidniss The Chicago Way from now on
You can have him back
39849. jexster - 11/5/2008 4:40:33 PM
Cool 3 D Map..Margin By County
He carried Cook County by 1,000,000 votes. LA County by nearly 700,000
39850. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/5/2008 4:48:06 PM
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said he plans to meet with Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman later this week to discuss the situation regarding Lieberman in the Senate.
In the past, Democrats tolerated Lieberman's political straddling because he held their slim political majority in his hands. Now that Democrats have strengthened their hold on the Senate, there could be added pressure to punish Lieberman.
39851. jexster - 11/5/2008 4:50:16 PM
Piglin says she didn't lose
McStain did
39852. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/5/2008 4:59:10 PM
39853. judithathome - 11/5/2008 5:32:46 PM
How fitting....as a last gift from Bush, we got our 401k statement in the mail today....less HALF of what we had in it last year at this time. Bastard.
39854. judithathome - 11/5/2008 6:08:26 PM
Here's some tibits about both campaigns and one paragraph on page 2 about Palin's attire in meeting with advisors in her hotel room is a real doozy.
39855. jexster - 11/5/2008 7:23:40 PM
I think he got some too Wizzer!
hahahahahhahhahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
39856. jexster - 11/5/2008 7:31:14 PM
Totally cute
39857. jexster - 11/5/2008 7:43:31 PM
Newsweek: Palin's Shopping Spree Exceeded 150,000
39858. jexster - 11/5/2008 7:45:50 PM
One aide estimated that she spent "tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits its books.
39859. jexster - 11/5/2008 8:08:10 PM

39860. jexster - 11/5/2008 8:16:04 PM
Election Unleashes Flood of hOpe Worldwide
39861. jexster - 11/5/2008 8:17:13 PM
From Obama's Jakarta madrassa

39862. jexster - 11/5/2008 8:24:32 PM
YES!
Chris Cillizza reports that there are some things even Democrats aren't allowed to do...like speak at the RNC
39863. jexster - 11/5/2008 8:41:54 PM

39864. jexster - 11/5/2008 8:49:46 PM
Fox News: Palin Didn't Know Africa Was a Continent
Vetting Process "Truncated"; Flood of Inside Stories to Come
39865. jexster - 11/5/2008 9:01:11 PM
GOP in tatters
AP WASHINGTON – So much for a lasting Republican majority.
39866. Wombat - 11/5/2008 9:03:02 PM
Oh yeah, she was ready. To put it in perspective: Concerned knew that Africa was a continent in 4th grade. The US dodged a major bullet.
39867. arkymalarky - 11/5/2008 9:13:45 PM
Where are you, Con'd? Come out of your undisclosed location and congratulate the Mote Obama supporters!
39868. jexster - 11/5/2008 9:25:42 PM
Amy Walter of the Cook Report was on the Newshour tonight with a unique post-mortem. The punditocracy has focused on Obama's response to the financial collapse as the factor that cemented his position as a leader people could trust, his "3 am call"
Walter demurs. Cook was running some internal polling throughout the cycle and Walter says that it was Obama's victory over Clinton that assured the public. Indeed against those of us who thought that the primary process hurt Obama, Walter sees it as a major factor in his win
39869. jexster - 11/5/2008 10:28:24 PM
39870. jexster - 11/5/2008 11:00:47 PM
Newsom Takes Hit for Prop 8 Passage
Goodbye Gov. Gav
39871. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2008 12:32:22 AM
Paul Krugman:
The monster years
Last night wasn't just a victory for tolerance; it wasn't just a mandate for progressive change; it was also, I hope, the end of the monster years.
What I mean by that is that for the past 14 years America's political life has been largely dominated by, well, monsters. Monsters like Tom DeLay, who suggested that the shootings at Columbine happened because schools teach students the theory of evolution. Monsters like Karl Rove, who declared that liberals wanted to offer therapy and understanding” to terrorists. Monsters like Dick Cheney, who saw 9/11 as an opportunity to start torturing people.
And in our national discourse, we pretended that these monsters were reasonable, respectable people. To point out that the monsters were, in fact, monsters, was shrill.
Four years ago it seemed as if the monsters would dominate American politics for a long time to come. But for now, at least, they've been banished to the wilderness.
39872. iiibbb - 11/6/2008 8:58:10 AM
Message # 39867
I'm sure Con'd is out rebuilding the "conservative" party.
39873. judithathome - 11/6/2008 10:43:50 AM
Jex, I posted that Newsweek article about 4 posts before you did...I know you're exuberant over the win but at least read a few of the links others provide. ;-)
I wasn't shocked at her spending more on clothes...I was more shocked at her coming to the door in a towel!
39874. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2008 10:49:44 AM
Here's more on Palin's behavior . . .
39875. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2008 10:51:53 AM
Carl Cameron does one of those Now-it-can-be-told stories Fox likes to do. In this episode we learn that:
Palin did NOT know Africa was a continent.
She did NOT know who the parties to NAFTA were. [Hint: U.S., Canada, Mexico]
She threw dramatic temper tantrums over bad press.
She refused to prepare for the Gibson or Couric interviews.
None of this really came out during the Presidential campaign because of course it was told "off the record". There are a few ways to look at this, the most interesting being is why they felt the need to spill the beans the day after the election. Are the knives really out on Sarah Palin? Sure seems so. Time will tell.
39876. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2008 11:04:42 AM
Question:
Are these tears of joy--or regret?
39877. jexster - 11/6/2008 11:05:06 AM
I thought it was going to lose so I didn't even check but CA approved a a zillion dollar bond issue for a TGV running from Sacto to SD.
39878. Wombat - 11/6/2008 11:09:12 AM
Wiz:
At risk of being even more cynical than I am already, Iwould say envy or rage. It should have been him (according to him).
39879. vonKreedon - 11/6/2008 11:15:45 AM
Wiz - I assume Jesse is weeping in joy, overwhelm, and grief. Joy at seeing an African-American chosen by the American people to lead them. Overwhelm at the culminating moment of so much of his life's work. Grief at all those he has worked with who are not with him to experience this moment. When I first saw the image of Jesse standing in the crowd weeping I got chills all over. Interestingly, I continue to get those chills everytime I remember that image.
39880. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2008 11:45:28 AM
Interesting! It's obviously an overwhelming moment for him and I sense all of those emotions too-so I guess the answer is both joy and regret.
I also can't help but wonder if the flaws of the ego, so evident in guys like Jackson, Clinton, and Edwards, will overpower Obama. I hope not--for everyone's sake.
39881. iiibbb - 11/6/2008 11:54:38 AM
Message # 39876
I've never been a huge fan of J.Jackson... but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. One thing I learn about politics is that it is 80% posturing.
I think he was seriously moved.
39882. iiibbb - 11/6/2008 11:56:11 AM
39883. jexster - 11/6/2008 12:01:30 PM
Those were real. Now that Merkley's the winner in OR, I bet Mentum's crying too
39884. jexster - 11/6/2008 12:06:44 PM
Now they tell us
“Right now, the economy is in a really deep recession,” said Kevin Hassett, director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute and a senior economic adviser to John McCain.
Like we didn't know already
Today I hear GM is whining that it might go under if we don't bail it out
I say let Wonkers give up his retirement benes first, then we'll think about it
39885. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2008 12:12:48 PM
Those were real. Now that Merkley's the winner in OR, I bet Mentum's crying too.
You miss the point, A.D.H.D. Man! Nobody questioned the genuineness of the tears, but rather what emotions were behind them.
39886. jexster - 11/6/2008 12:56:10 PM
Obama 364
39887. jexster - 11/6/2008 12:56:51 PM
Tears of regret?
Please. Italians may cry for that reason
Not real men
39888. jexster - 11/6/2008 12:57:28 PM
Correction
Seeceelyans, Nabolidans
39889. jexster - 11/6/2008 1:06:25 PM
The New Jackie

39890. thoughtful - 11/6/2008 1:17:43 PM
Trailer trash is trailer trash whether from arkansas or alaska
39891. jexster - 11/6/2008 1:33:39 PM
How Will President Obama Deploy His Internet Army
39892. David Ehrenstein - 11/6/2008 2:11:08 PM

39893. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2008 2:13:54 PM

39894. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2008 2:18:50 PM
John King: Obama Needs To Worry About Being Too Liberal
39895. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2008 2:22:16 PM

39896. iiibbb - 11/6/2008 3:17:05 PM
39897. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2008 3:26:07 PM

39898. iiibbb - 11/6/2008 3:26:15 PM
don't click that if you have dial-up or slow connection.
39899. jexster - 11/6/2008 3:53:17 PM
Dump Mentum: Day of Wrath, Day of Reckoning
39900. jexster - 11/6/2008 4:06:37 PM
39901. jexster - 11/6/2008 4:21:39 PM
Reid Set to Punish Mentum
I've already written BoXer. She's on the Steering Committee
39902. robertjayb - 11/6/2008 4:24:53 PM
A Jewish LBJ...(a review)
Take a guy with the macho swagger of a Rambo, the balletic instincts of a Baryshnikov and a mouth to match Lenny Bruce. Make him the son of a doctor who was born in Jerusalem, served in the Irgun and changed his last name from Auerbach to Emanuel to honor a brother killed in the 1936 Arab insurrection. Send him to finishing school with the Daley political machine in Chicago, and you end up with arguably the most powerful Jewish politician in the U.S. Congress, Representative Rahm Emanuel.
(HouChron)
39903. robertjayb - 11/6/2008 4:36:44 PM
Barack Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod has accepted the position of Senior Adviser in the White House, sources tell ABC News.
another thug in the house...he is a campaign guy and a
should remain one. There will be some important special elections coming up...
39904. jexster - 11/6/2008 4:46:46 PM
I am sure the President will give your opinion the weight it deserves
39905. jexster - 11/6/2008 4:47:13 PM
GOP Lawyer Dispatched To Alaska To Retrieve Some Of Palin's Clothes
39906. jexster - 11/6/2008 4:48:47 PM
Send him an email robert
Change.gov launched
39907. jexster - 11/6/2008 4:51:52 PM
Let's sing along with Robert
39908. jexster - 11/6/2008 4:59:32 PM
Which limp dicks would you suggest he hire Robert
39909. jexster - 11/6/2008 5:23:36 PM
Hardball features a topical discussion on what an ass kicker Obama is - as reflected in his campaign - w/ Fineman and Willie Brown
Matthews put it well - the Republicans are whining about Rahm Emmanuel for good reason - they know he'll get shit done
God forbid
What they missed entirely though, is that Emmanuel can get things done on the Hill and contra Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, that choice will keep the prima donnas in line
39910. jexster - 11/6/2008 5:26:56 PM
Maybe he should name Mentum Secretary of Defense!
Emanuel accepts White House job
By PATRICK O'CONNOR & MIKE ALLEN |Politico
The selection is the first major public decision by Obama since he was elected in a landslide on Tuesday.
39911. jexster - 11/6/2008 5:33:14 PM

39912. jexster - 11/6/2008 5:41:38 PM
Ben Smith: The Axeman Cometh
The election is eight days away, but Sen. Barack Obama's steady lead in the polls already has produced lively speculation over whom he will choose to lead his administration, in the event he wins the presidency.
And no subject is more avidly considered in the corridors of Democratic power than the future role of his chief adviser, political consultant David Axelrod. Democrats who know the Chicago-based political consultant, the key architect of Obama's campaign and of his public image, say Axelrod has signaled that he'll seriously consider taking on a job in the administration. That decision would be a central choice in shaping an Obama White House, and determining the relationship between his style of governance and political strategy.
"I think he'll do it," said James Carville, Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign manager, who never joined that administration.
Obama trusts him, and he cares about policy," Carville said, adding that he stayed out of the Clinton administration because he wanted to make money, but that Axelrod's lucrative consulting practice had put him in a position to go to the White House. "The only people that go into government are either very young or very rich," Carville said.
39913. jexster - 11/6/2008 5:46:51 PM
I can understand why Boner, Haley Barbour, Larry Johnson, Robert and the rest are whining
Funny, eh Robert
I'm not
The Rahm era
Barack Obama has named a formidable Chief of Staff. Rahm Emanuel's"hard-charging" and "sharp-elbowed" ways -- to name two of the preferred descriptions -- are well known. No question, he's a shrewd political operator.
But what makes him such a talent is that he is more than just a smart campaign mind. Emanuel is also passionate about ideas and has a great sense for where good policy and good politics meet. It's this combination, honed in his years in campaigns, the Clinton White House and on Capitol Hill, that will make him one of the best-equipped Chiefs of Staff to take the position in recent history.
39914. arkymalarky - 11/6/2008 5:47:13 PM
Robert, you don't seem to be enjoying the Democratic victory very much. I think Axelrod's going to be great.
39915. jexster - 11/6/2008 5:59:13 PM
The Obama Neighbor to Neighbor campaign made over 1 million calls on eRection day alone.
Willie Brown finally noticed something Arky has realized for two years - "This is the best national campaign I have ever seen, the first to do what we do all the time at the city and district levels - build a grass roots election operation"
39916. jexster - 11/6/2008 5:59:47 PM
Axelrod is hardly "a thug"...
39917. jexster - 11/6/2008 6:02:17 PM
Makes perfect sense to have your chief political strategist at your side and David Axelrod's great.
More impressed with Rahmbo though. Daschle was runner up...a distant second I suspect
39918. jexster - 11/6/2008 6:09:53 PM
Don't lose sight of the mess that Obama needs to clean out IN the Bush regime..Cheney really did a number beginning on Day 1 with his assistant and undersecty picks....there's a ton of garbage to clean out and until it is gone HUGE opportunities for mischief
39919. jexster - 11/6/2008 6:13:47 PM
John Harwood gets it
The Republicans are just posturing. He reports that privately they're telling him how pleased they are that Emanuel has the COS job...just the kind of guy who can get things done and prevent the party from drifting dangerously to the left
39920. jexster - 11/6/2008 6:44:44 PM
Cillizza:
One former Clinton Administration official compared Emanuel to a defensive end in football. "Very smart, super quick and agile, but getting hit by him, particularly when you were blindsided, felt like being run over by a truck," said the source
Naah
Wouldn't want anyone like that as COS
39921. jexster - 11/6/2008 6:54:11 PM
Froomkin: Emanuel Pick Signals Different Kind of WH
The fact that Robert objects is recommendation enough for me
39922. magoseph - 11/6/2008 7:03:35 PM
John Avarosis over at americablog.com nails it with one.
I'm watching THE VIEW, and Joy Behar was talking about how last night McCain "finally came back to who he was." I.e., he's been kind of an ass for the past several months, and finally started to find his honor again. The token Republican countered with the following: "I think it's hard because campaigns... really bring out the ugly in everyone on both sides. It's when you see them in their pure moments, Barack's speech last night, and John McCain's speech lsat night, that you see these moments of hope that they really have given us."
Horse shit.
After eight years of having Republicans call me an un-American troop-hating fag-loving socialist, after months of John McCain embracing the hate to a level where his own supporters were calling out for Barack Obama to be assassinated, no one is going to be permitted to tell me with a straight face that "oh you know, both sides do it."
Your side was abominable. Your side was hateful. Your side race-baited. Your side gay-baited. Your side lied like we've never seen in recent presidential campaign history. Your side used a tax-cheat who would do better under Obama's tax proposal to be your everyman on the issue of taxes. Your side, in a veiled effort at race-baiting, said Obama doesn't put his country first. Your side had the audacity to call Obama a socialist. Your side suggested he was a Muslim. Your side suggested he was a terrorist. Your side suggested he was Osama bin Laden.
Spare me the crap about how both sides do it. You people are a disgrace, you've been a disgrace for eight long years, and all your hate and lying and venom and vitriol finally bit you in your collective fat ass.
Democrats don't do nasty, and they certainly don't do it well. Lord knows I wish they did, but they don't. Republicans elevate it to a religion. You are the party of Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity. Angry, bitchy, bitter and elitist. What do we have to compare? Jesse Jackson, I often hear from my Republican friends. Um, maybe in 1980 when he was relevant. It's been 28 years, got any other examples? Michael Moore, you say? What has Michael Moore said - name one thing - that's comparable to the filth that regularly issues forth from Limbaugh, Hannity and Coulter and, of late, McCain and Palin?
Democrats, when they skewer (which isn't often enough), do it with biting truth. Republicans skewer, early and often, with vicious lies. It goes back to a more general philosophy that liberals have: If we just tell them the truth, the people will agree with us. Republicans are far less sanguine. They know that a good lie beats the truth any day of the week.
Except on a Tuesday in November.
39923. jexster - 11/6/2008 7:20:19 PM
LAT - LOVE IT!
Rahm Takes Job: What Makes a Great COS?
Lindsay Graham Hails Choice
39924. jexster - 11/6/2008 7:40:02 PM
39925. arkymalarky - 11/6/2008 7:53:09 PM
Great post, Mags, and veery true--Jex notwithstanding.
39926. arkymalarky - 11/6/2008 7:57:58 PM
And they've fed a dangerous hostility and ignorance in rural areas like mine. The people who spread that shit didn't believe it--they just wanted to win however they had to. The people they fed it to did believe it, and their beliefs about Obama are downright scary.
39927. jexster - 11/6/2008 8:02:43 PM
Emanuel, Axelrod R Closest of Friends
39928. jexster - 11/6/2008 8:10:07 PM
See the NyT Blue to Red, Red to Blue map in Lies Arky
OK to Arkansas to Tuhnuhsee
Jasper EastTex thru the FL panhandle....Not as Sen Burr would have it "rool" America
That's redneck America....
I still think Daniel Cowart's a hottie
39929. jexster - 11/6/2008 8:11:32 PM
Democrats, when they skewer (which isn't often enough), do it with biting truth.
Mags said it
Not me Arky.....notwithstanding
39930. winstonsmith - 11/6/2008 8:29:23 PM
I talked with my brother in law who lives a few blocks away from Obama in Hyde Park. He says Hyde Park is locked down like a bunker.
39931. wonkers2 - 11/6/2008 8:59:02 PM
Arky, they aren't confined to rural areas. I know plenty of them around here.
39932. alistairConnor - 11/6/2008 9:23:43 PM
Message # 39911 That Lincoln cartoon is brilliant!
I'm proud of my race today
(the human one. It's the only one I've got.)
39933. wonkers2 - 11/6/2008 10:03:26 PM
Yes it was, and me, too. And I'm again proud to call myself an American. The election has mostly restored my faith in democracy.
39934. wonkers2 - 11/6/2008 10:11:16 PM
Gary Peters was elected Nov. 4 as the first Democrat representing my district in Congress since 1893! As I predicted Michigan was a blowout for the Democrats.
39935. arkymalarky - 11/6/2008 10:13:37 PM
Ok. Just heard Rush quoted on CNN. Now I get it, Robert. You're just too cryptic lately.
39936. wonkers2 - 11/6/2008 10:32:24 PM
Interesting background on Rahm Emmanuel. Tnx, Robert. Somehow I had thought he was of Middle Eastern extraction but not Jewish. Who cares, anyway?
39937. jexster - 11/7/2008 10:01:26 AM
No Arky..RObert's with Rush
And Concerned didn't vote for Obama
The Obama Agenda - Yes We Can!
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Confiscate GM pensions now
39938. jexster - 11/7/2008 10:02:14 AM
Somehow I had thought he was of Middle Eastern extraction but not Jewish.
Didn't think Bill Maher was Hebrew either!
39939. jexster - 11/7/2008 10:22:21 AM
Al Zaman: Iraq Pleased With Obama Election, Looks Forward to Working With Admin Who Wants to Leave
39940. jexster - 11/7/2008 10:54:03 AM
Norman Ornstein, Bush transition adviser from AEI and Steven Hess of Brookings discussed the transition on the Newshour last night
39941. jexster - 11/7/2008 11:07:09 AM
Why Robert and Rush whine
Emanuel pick sends powerful signal
By BEN SMITH & JOHN F. HARRIS
Obama is willing to do what it takes to win.
Robert's not being elliptical
He's just yeller
39942. jexster - 11/7/2008 11:47:29 AM
Obama Vindicated On Key Foreign Policy Issues
39943. jexster - 11/7/2008 11:56:51 AM
Realignment
America the Liberal by John B. Judis
The Democratic majority: It emerged!
39944. jexster - 11/7/2008 12:08:08 PM
Rahm Emanuel: A Tough Taskmaster for the White House * Time.com
Republicans and Robert like to say that Obama is all talk and no action, but his appointment of Rahm Emanuel as chief of staff shows that he knows how to get things done in Washington
39945. iiibbb - 11/7/2008 1:56:52 PM

39946. jexster - 11/7/2008 3:24:42 PM
Barack Hussein Obama is god!
39947. jexster - 11/7/2008 3:43:38 PM
Obama's Designated Asshole
Ari Gold (Entourage)
I love his Fat ChinaGirl, Lloyd
39948. jexster - 11/7/2008 3:49:36 PM
Never before has a President elect been so pressured to govern before he is Inaugurated
CNN
39949. jexster - 11/7/2008 4:02:57 PM
MSNBC reports that Grizzly Granholm managed to put the arm on Obama for $25 Billion..and then the beggars came back for ANOTHER 25 billion to pay for welfare for their employees past and present
Reminds me Wonkers...next time you're out here sailing your GM yacht, you might want to check out
The San Francisco Contemporary JEW Museum
39950. jexster - 11/7/2008 4:08:04 PM
As if EVERYBODY outside of Michigan didn't know that Deetroit produced SHIT 40 years ago
Why should we pay NOW?
39951. jexster - 11/7/2008 4:13:48 PM
39952. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/7/2008 4:14:13 PM

39953. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/7/2008 4:19:42 PM

39954. jexster - 11/7/2008 5:37:58 PM

39955. jexster - 11/7/2008 5:40:04 PM

39956. jexster - 11/7/2008 5:41:43 PM
I'm proud of my race today
The French...NWord lovers who talk the talk while Robert walks the plank
39957. jexster - 11/7/2008 5:43:29 PM
Newsweek Special eRection Project
Secrets of the 2008 Campaign
39958. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/7/2008 5:52:26 PM

39959. jexster - 11/7/2008 5:58:10 PM
Obama and Islam: Muslims Voted Overwhelmingly for Hussein
>
39960. jexster - 11/7/2008 6:07:31 PM
The President's First Press Conference
39961. jexster - 11/7/2008 6:29:57 PM
The Omaha World-Herald calls the electoral vote of Nebraska's 2nd congressional district for Obama.
39962. jexster - 11/7/2008 6:33:19 PM
Hail to the Chief Barack Obama
39963. jexster - 11/7/2008 6:41:42 PM
39964. jexster - 11/7/2008 6:55:58 PM
Look at that Ho Granholm

39965. alistairConnor - 11/7/2008 6:56:58 PM
Gdam Nebraskans. Fkcuing up my electoral vote prediction.
39966. jexster - 11/7/2008 7:02:52 PM
Not only did the Muzzies go big, The Forward reports on the Surge Among the Jews
39967. jexster - 11/7/2008 7:18:35 PM
Wisconsin's Youth Activist and Mom
Now with a personal fundraising page at the DNC website

39968. iiibbb - 11/7/2008 8:27:24 PM
39969. jexster - 11/7/2008 8:29:38 PM
Joe the Putz
Mentum's threatening to bolt if the Dems strip him of Homeland Security
39970. jexster - 11/7/2008 8:36:46 PM
39971. jexster - 11/7/2008 8:49:43 PM
39972. jexster - 11/7/2008 9:11:47 PM
"A Real Thug"
39973. jexster - 11/7/2008 9:56:33 PM
Rahm Emanuel will appear this Sunday on "Face the Nation,
39974. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/8/2008 12:54:26 AM
Hatred & Sedition on parade . . .
39975. Ulgine Barrows - 11/8/2008 5:45:15 AM
aaack! what are you guys doing! I voted for Obama, and I just saw this funny picture of Obama with a Lincolnesque hat on top.
And thought of you all & your political quibbles.
39976. alistairConnor - 11/8/2008 5:54:14 AM
Gigi! Smoooch!
39977. Ulgine Barrows - 11/8/2008 6:08:00 AM
hey sweetie, long time no see!
39978. jexster - 11/8/2008 7:33:23 AM
The Editor of the Weakly Standard's now writing ,in benign if not complementary terms that Obama's a Radical Moderate! This even as O is showing the courage to admit his racial "muttery". If only those of my race had similar spinal cord
39979. jexster - 11/8/2008 7:36:30 AM
hello Uzzie..how things on the Srebrenica pig farm
39980. jexster - 11/8/2008 12:04:40 PM
How wrong they were
"He cannot win," and other chestnuts. Remembering an election season full of fabulously wrongheaded predictions.
Bill Kristol, "Fox News Sunday" -- Dec. 17, 2006
"If [Hillary Clinton] gets a race against John Edwards and Barack Obama, she's going to be the nominee. Gore is the only threat to her ... Barack Obama is not going to beat Hillary Clinton in a single democratic primary. I'll predict that right now."

39981. jexster - 11/8/2008 12:18:45 PM

39982. David Ehrenstein - 11/8/2008 12:59:31 PM
Where oh where is Concerned?
Down in the bunker with his AK-47s ?
39983. jexster - 11/8/2008 1:22:07 PM
GFR: American Band
39984. iiibbb - 11/8/2008 5:16:50 PM
So what's the low-down on Obama and this fundrasing BS, i.e. taking funding from small non-citizen doners that I heard on NPR today?
What are the possible outcomes?
39985. arkymalarky - 11/8/2008 5:45:12 PM
I doubt much. I imagine he'll have to give back what they can trace back. The GOP was squawking about needing to look into his small donors throughout the general election.
39986. arkymalarky - 11/8/2008 5:47:30 PM
I doubt much. I imagine he'll have to give back what they can trace back. The GOP was squawking about needing to look into his small donors throughout the general election.
39987. jexster - 11/8/2008 6:10:51 PM
Who IS the man who calls himself Barack Hussein Obama
This shocking video reveals that we don't know the answer and that in fact, Obama may not even be a citizen!!!!
39988. iiibbb - 11/8/2008 6:16:44 PM
Would any of the donations be considered illegal?
39989. jexster - 11/8/2008 7:22:04 PM
US Auto Industry: A 30 Year Failure of Wonkers2
Somebody ought to write a letter to the NyT Editors
39990. jexster - 11/8/2008 7:51:28 PM
Colin McEnroe, the Hartford Courant, dumps on Mentum
39991. jexster - 11/8/2008 7:57:08 PM
Barack Hussein Obama: An FDR for Our Time???
The Financial Times, Robert, and the Associated Press think He may be!
Me?
I just think he's the greatest political talent of our day
39992. jexster - 11/8/2008 7:58:22 PM
Yeah I3...it is illegal for French people to give money for the purpose of influencing our eRections
USA! USA!
39993. jexster - 11/8/2008 8:01:43 PM
39994. jexster - 11/8/2008 8:33:24 PM
Preparing to clean up a Texas sized mess, President Obama Positions Himself to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions on Environmental, Social Issues
39995. iiibbb - 11/8/2008 8:45:13 PM
So how much would Obama be expected to do to screen donations?
I take it that the law is written that under-200 don't have to be screened for the sake of simplicity... so probably the law wasn't written with this campaign in mind?
39996. arkymalarky - 11/8/2008 9:22:09 PM
All I know is that no one's making anything of it but wingnuts and NPR. His aunt was one of them and he returned her donations a few days before the election and the McCain campaign tried to use it and no one was interested. They've also clamored for investigations, but apparently no one cares to go through millions of hundred dollar and lower donations looking for violations. There's something incredibly funny about that.
39997. robertjayb - 11/8/2008 9:57:01 PM
Sarah being abandoned on an ice flow...(UK Telegraph)
Methinks some mainline GOPers don't want to have to deal with Miss Alaska again..
The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of "palling around with terrorists", citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers.
The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.
........................
The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.
Michelle Obama, the future First Lady, was so upset that she turned to her friend and campaign adviser Valerie Jarrett and said: "Why would they try to make people hate us?"
The revelations, contained in a Newsweek history of the campaign, are likely to further damage Mrs Palin's credentials as a future presidential candidate...
39998. wonkers2 - 11/8/2008 10:35:17 PM
She's a dingbat!
39999. robertjayb - 11/8/2008 10:58:29 PM

40000. arkymalarky - 11/8/2008 11:17:12 PM
Yay!
40001. wonkers2 - 11/9/2008 10:36:45 AM
40002. jexster - 11/9/2008 10:54:17 AM
Dems Set Sights on Tejas (!!?!?!?! #$4*9%^&!)
The only sights we should set are on Neuvo Laredo, new capital of Mexico's newest state
40003. jexster - 11/9/2008 11:04:33 AM
40004. jexster - 11/9/2008 12:09:04 PM
Party of Palin, Party of Stupid
40005. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/9/2008 12:28:59 PM
Stupid & Hateful . . .
40006. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/9/2008 12:30:47 PM
A Midland man told police that his walking on the sidewalk in full Knights of Ku Klux Klan regalia while toting a handgun had nothing to do with Barack Obama winning the presidency.
Later, however, he admitted that Obama's victory was the catalyst for his display.
Midland police questioned Randy G. Gray II, 30, who was walking on the sidewalk along Eastman near North Saginaw Wednesday afternoon while waving an American flag, but released him because he wasn't breaking any laws.
Gray was walking up and down the sidewalk in front of a vehicle dealership while several motorists shouted obscenities at him and others shouted ''accolades,'' police said.
40007. jexster - 11/9/2008 12:34:25 PM
40008. jexster - 11/9/2008 12:50:19 PM
The South shall rise!
HuffPo reports that Piyush and the Huckabeast are already headed for Iowa.
40009. jexster - 11/9/2008 1:05:29 PM
I am increasingly Concerned
Obama blockbuster: 'Audacity of Deceit' $4.95 today!
Save $21 on stunning exposé of what candidate's 'change' really means to you
40010. jexster - 11/9/2008 1:07:20 PM
Maybe he cashed out his 401 K and moved to Midland??????
40011. jexster - 11/9/2008 2:18:31 PM
40012. jexster - 11/9/2008 2:27:23 PM
The Transformation
How the Greatest Negro in World History Won Levittown PA
40013. jexster - 11/9/2008 2:48:19 PM
The Mini Depression and the Maximum-Strength Remedy
By Robert Reich -
40014. jexster - 11/9/2008 6:47:19 PM
40015. jexster - 11/9/2008 7:02:46 PM
Newsweek:
The day of the third debate, Palin refused to go onstage with New Hampshire GOP Sen. John Sununu and Jeb Bradley, a New Hampshire congressman running for the Senate, because they were pro-choice and because Bradley opposed drilling in Alaska. The McCain campaign ordered her onstage at the next campaign stop, but she refused to acknowledge the two Republican candidates standing behind her.
Huckabeast
Piyush
and Caribou Barbie
Choices choices!
40016. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/10/2008 12:34:46 AM
Hey, they paired The Wiz up again, this time with The Beatles in an Obama video called "Getting Better" . . .
40017. wonkers2 - 11/10/2008 9:52:48 AM
Congrats, Wiz! I hope your got more than just the satisfaction of seeing your work used for a good cause on YouTube.
40018. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/10/2008 10:23:53 AM
Thanks wonk. I never wanted anything more that to learn Photoshop and find a healthy way to discharge my outrage--so the election of Obama is the cherry on the sundae--after eight long years of descent/dissent.
40019. anomie - 11/10/2008 10:34:03 AM
Posted the following in History. Thought it might be good here too.
I think the Federal bureaucracy, and perhaps Congress, is in for a shock with the way Obama does business. It will reverberate down to the career civil service, which rarely happens. He's not gone the conventional route thus far and I think that will continue with his style of governing. He expects actions and results, and while he may be frustrated with how much slower the bureacracy is than his campaign staff, I think he'll find ways to cut through the bullshit.
40020. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/10/2008 10:46:06 AM
The "audacity of hope," after the audacity of duh!
[Bill Maher]
40021. jexster - 11/10/2008 10:56:58 AM

40022. jexster - 11/10/2008 10:58:28 AM
Way to go Wiper
40023. jexster - 11/10/2008 11:30:30 AM
A Quiet Windfall For U.S. Banks
With Attention on Bailout Debate, Treasury Made Change to Tax Policy
40024. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/10/2008 11:58:06 AM
BASTARDS!
40025. jexster - 11/10/2008 12:12:34 PM
The GOP's hope for 2012?
Piyush for President!!!

40026. jexster - 11/10/2008 12:16:38 PM
Gallup CNN Disapproval
1. Bush - 76%
2 Truman - 67%
3 Nixon - 66%
40027. David Ehrenstein - 11/10/2008 12:37:23 PM
YIKES!
40028. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/10/2008 12:46:22 PM
I'll bet they Repubs try to get a Constitutional Amendment that allows foreign born the possibility of becoming POTUS--mainly because Shwarzenegger is trying to become the new Reagan.
40029. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/10/2008 12:52:42 PM
They
40030. anomie - 11/10/2008 1:43:35 PM
I think Arnold just raised taxes in California. Proves the point that there are no conservatives in government, only in campaigns.
40031. wonkers2 - 11/10/2008 2:14:39 PM
For Concerned: Get your war on: New World Order
40032. iiibbb - 11/10/2008 2:26:04 PM
Arnold would be called a RINO by most self-declared "pure" conservatives.
40033. jexster - 11/10/2008 3:15:31 PM
The view from Wells Fargo's Executive Suite on the Bush Bank Welfare ruling
It was this very tax announcement that made Wells Fargo change its mind and buy Wachovia Bank, after having told Citibank two days before that it wasn't going to buy. Citibank was therefore poised to buy, when Wells snatched Wachovia from under their noses. Citibank, of course, is now going to sue Wells for big bucks. The attitude at Wells San Fran corporate office when I visited last month was guilt-ridden sly laughter.
40034. jexster - 11/10/2008 3:18:11 PM
No Arnold hasn't raised taxes.
He wants to raise SALES taxes because the State is in yet another hole, this after slashing Medicaid - AGAIN....
Guess what ..the GOP is threatening to kill any tax increase
This is an EXACT repeat of the fiscal disaster that got Davis recalled and Arnold elected in 2003
40035. jexster - 11/10/2008 3:28:52 PM
Obama Entering White House With High Favorables -- And Bush Leaving With High Disapproval
By Eric Kleefeld - November 10, 2008, 2:26PM

40036. jexster - 11/10/2008 3:36:17 PM

40037. jexster - 11/10/2008 3:37:35 PM
Made Bush's bitch look like a liberrian!
40038. anomie - 11/10/2008 3:38:23 PM
I was there when Davis was recalled. And yeah, now Arnold is learning a bit late that governing is a lot different from preaching on the sidelines.
40039. jexster - 11/10/2008 3:40:42 PM
I have seen more O swag on colored folks since Tuesday than I saw in the 22 months before
40040. jexster - 11/10/2008 3:59:47 PM
20% of Americans receive Medicaid...their benefits are being slashed..the CA GOP is trotting out their 30 year old NO NEW TAXES crap
40041. David Ehrenstein - 11/10/2008 4:13:05 PM
40042. jexster - 11/10/2008 7:00:44 PM
People assumed that Prop 8 could not possibly win and didn't bother to fight it.
I saw more of an effort put into the fight for the rights of caged chickens than I did in the effort to protect gay marriage.
Personally, unless Hollywood has more to offer me than Doogie Howser, I'd just as soon have eve back with Adam and Steve back in the bath house
40043. jexster - 11/10/2008 7:15:24 PM

40044. jexster - 11/10/2008 7:36:49 PM
40045. jexster - 11/10/2008 7:46:21 PM
The Wasilla Hillbillies
WASILLA, Alaska – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin spent part of the weekend going through her clothing to determine what belongs to the Republican Party after it spent $150,000-plus on a wardrobe for the vice presidential nominee, according to Palin's father.
40046. jexster - 11/10/2008 7:47:25 PM

40047. jexster - 11/10/2008 8:22:11 PM
Big Names, Good Times at Annual American Bankers Bash in SF
40048. wonkers2 - 11/10/2008 8:43:48 PM
Jexter family reunion?
40049. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/10/2008 8:54:12 PM
If you missed 60 Minutes last night, this is worth the preceeding commercial.
Obama's inner circle . . .
40050. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:10:22 PM
40051. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:14:48 PM
The Integrity Ticket 2012


40052. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:20:51 PM
Back by popular demand.....
40053. wonkers2 - 11/10/2008 9:21:12 PM
Thanks for the video Wiz. But why wasn't Jex invited to the picnic?
40054. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:32:25 PM
I want to know why General Motors is now worth exactly $0.00
Then I want to see a letter to the New York Times
40055. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:33:13 PM
Then I want to know how much they're still paying you for 30 years of failure
40056. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:34:06 PM
40049 - Real thugs
40057. wonkers2 - 11/10/2008 9:39:17 PM
Too many Californians like Jexter who can't remember Pearl Harbor are buying Japanese cars, German wine and Eyetalian cheese.
Editor
Detroit Free Press
On a recent trip to Mexico when crossing the border at Nogales, an hour south of Tucson, there was a mile-long line of semi-trailer trucks waiting to enter the U.S. And how many were waiting on the U.S. side waiting to enter Mexico? Exactly zero. In San Francisco huge, fully loaded container ships can be seen every day headed for the port of Oakland where they unload and return empty across the Pacific to Asia. This caused me to reflect on the free trade ideology held by economists and the foreign policy establishment, Democrat and Republican alike, which has contributed to the dismantling of GM, Ford and Chrysler.
Until relatively recently I didn’t question the benefits of free trade and comparative advantage which I was taught in economics classes many years ago. However, Paul Krugman, our most recent Nobel Prize economist, pointed out recently that the theory of comparative advantage was originally applied among countries of comparable levels of economic development. He questioned the validity of the theory when applied between advanced countries such as the U.S. and developing countries like China, Mexico and Korea. The benefits of unfettered free trade are hard to see, for example in China where poorly paid workers work long hours in unsafe and unhealthful, polluting plants without the right to union representation and in the U.S. as well where thousands of auto workers have lost their jobs, and those who remain have suffered wage and benefit cuts. Allowing unlimited imports into the United States is clearly not in the interest U.S. auto workers or Michigan. And its benefit to the country is doubtful at best.
In my opinion, the time has come to turn off the spigot of unlimited vehicle imports and perhaps require foreign auto companies to locate their plants in Michigan, Ohio and other states where workers have been displaced by imports. Consideration could also be given to requiring or incentivizing foreign companies to re-open plants closed by U.S. auto companies rather than rewarding them for locating new plants in right-to-work states in the South. Failing these measures, much greater assistance for communities and displaced workers whose jobs are sacrificed on the altar of free trade in order to benefit American consumers is clearly in order.
W2
40058. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:40:50 PM
Thirty years making junk
40059. wonkers2 - 11/10/2008 9:41:51 PM
U.S. Corporations Abroad
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To the Editor:
Bob Herbert's Oct. 20 column, ''Rain Forest Jekyll and Hyde?,'' points to the need for Congress to devise ways to require American corporations operating in other countries to export their environmental and human resources technology along with their production technology.
The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act makes bribery of a foreign government official a crime under American law. Similar regulations are needed to prevent American companies or their contractors from exploiting child or adult labor in unsafe or inhumane working conditions in plants that pollute the environment.
Perhaps curbs on imports, similar to the ban on some Beluga caviar enacted by the Fish and Wildlife Service to protect endangered sturgeon, should be contemplated to protect endangered workers or environments.
The time has come to question whether the people of our country and the world are being well served by the doctrine of unalloyed free trade.
w2
40060. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:43:10 PM
You'll notice after you've cut through the ideological whine ...there isn't a goddamn syllable in that pathetic screed that has to do with the US auto industry
40061. wonkers2 - 11/10/2008 9:43:54 PM
anuary 11, 2008 12:39 pm Link
David Barboza’s January 5, 2008 article on the abysmal working conditions in China casts doubt on the legendary benefits of free trade. Why should American workers and Chinese workers be sacrificed on the altar of free trade to fatten the coffers of WalMart and other companies whose factories, or those of their contractors, pay low wages for work in dangerous, unhealthful conditions while polluting the world’s environment? It would not seem unreasonable to expect American companies to bring to their Chinese operations the pollution, industrial safety and hygiene and human resources policies rather than leaving them behind in the United States. It’s illegal under United States law for a U.S. company to bribe a foreign government official but not to maim or poison a foreign worker.
Both the Republican and Democratic parties, while quick to bring intellectual property rights to the trade negotiating table, have not pursued the protection of worker rights with equal vigor. Our trade negotiators (and the New York Times) act as if the introduction of worker rights considerations in trade talks is comparable to putting sand in their Rolexes. If American workers are losing their jobs only for Chinese workers to work in unsafe, unhealthful conditions for abysmally low wages, where are the benefits of free trade”
w2
Birmingham, Michigan
40062. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:45:09 PM
We've known ...we've ALL known since the 1970's what the fucking problem is..now we find out that Deetroit put all its marbles in Cadillac Escalades and Lincoln Navigators...now they're saddled with obscene benefits paid to the deadwood that fucked them up and want US to pay for that shit
40063. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:48:22 PM
40064. jexster - 11/10/2008 9:49:22 PM
FYI America....
WalMart doesn't make Toyotas
40065. jexster - 11/10/2008 10:06:49 PM
Why should we pay for Honkers and the rest of those Deetroit Moran's elegant dinners at
The Big Rock Chop House
or the manicured lawns of their stately manor homes??
or their Yacht Club cookouts?

40066. jexster - 11/10/2008 10:13:02 PM
At least my Senator's hard at work making sure that hard working patriots don't get jewed ...
40067. jexster - 11/10/2008 10:23:49 PM
This is not amateur hour -- this is not crony time." Paul Light, a professor of public service at New York University and an expert on governmental organization, said admiringly, "Obama is extremely well-prepared. There is a lot of talk coming out of the Bush administration about a seamless transition. But in many instances, the Obama people know as much about what is happening in the Cabinet agencies as the Bush people do."
Light guest-lectured an HR seminar I took
40068. jexster - 11/10/2008 10:41:08 PM
Toyota Assembly Plant
Indiana
Prius Final Assembly
Note the oppressed worker

40069. jexster - 11/10/2008 10:43:32 PM
Wonkers and Me Trailer
40070. wonkers2 - 11/10/2008 11:17:51 PM
Roger Smith was a weasely little prick.
40071. wonkers2 - 11/10/2008 11:18:33 PM
So is Lieberman.
40072. jexster - 11/10/2008 11:20:37 PM
Obama Asks Bush to Save GM
Will Demand an End to WonkerWelfare in Auto Industry
Bush wants CAFATA in return ....That Giant Sucking Sound you hear is the Failed State of Michigan
40073. David Ehrenstein - 11/11/2008 9:36:40 AM
Latest FaBlog: Fait Diver -- Department of "Well, DUH!"
40074. jexster - 11/11/2008 11:39:47 AM
Where's Granny?
Arkansas, however, doubled the margin of victory it gave to the Republican over 2004.
40075. jexster - 11/11/2008 11:44:28 AM
“I think there are going to be outbreaks from blacks,” she added. “From where I’m from, this is going to give them the right to be more aggressive.”
Tell me about it!
A hip hop gangsta Buck crying "Boorack Boorack" HUGGED me on election night without permission
40076. jexster - 11/11/2008 11:46:28 AM
and the outbreak of Obama T-shirts on the buses are not to be believed
40077. jexster - 11/11/2008 12:10:38 PM
Mentum Receives Executive Clemency
40078. jexster - 11/11/2008 12:16:30 PM
Ja, wir können
Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) says Obama is planning to create a American Gestapo.

40079. jexster - 11/11/2008 1:16:08 PM
Howard Fineman says Shumer and Durbin want to give Mentum the axe
40080. jexster - 11/11/2008 2:18:03 PM
The Chicago Trib reports that Barack Obama's Secret Service code name is "Renegade." Michelle Obama is Renaissance, Malia is Radiance and Sasha is Rosebud.
40081. jexster - 11/11/2008 2:24:52 PM
The New York Times reports that many in the GOP think Jen and her snake chunkers are unimportant obsessions
Sarah Palin has been tagged and released back into the wild
Jon Stewart
40082. wonkers2 - 11/11/2008 3:43:22 PM
Larry Summers would be a very poor choice as Treasury Secretary
He's an arrogant asshole.
40083. jexster - 11/11/2008 3:50:31 PM
None of your goddamnn business....you should be writing your Senators to demand their opposition to welfare for GM and for the execution of Joe Lieberman
If Barack wants Summers, you will keep silence or I will shit where you eat
40084. jexster - 11/11/2008 3:56:29 PM
NO BAILOUT FOR AUTO UNION or EXECUTIVE PENIONS
40085. jexster - 11/11/2008 3:59:08 PM
Detroit Freeper
Editor:
As a retired excutive of General Motors, I must object in the most strenous terms to any government bailout that rewards US automakers, especially their dead beat executives, for thirty years of incompetence
W2
St. Clair Yacht Club
40086. wonkers2 - 11/11/2008 4:04:09 PM
HaHa! Very funny!
40087. jexster - 11/11/2008 4:19:03 PM
With GM stock at its lowest price since 1943 WE DEMAND that any government aid not increase the price of stock or stock options in any GM employee's 401K or pension plan or health care fund
This isn't Soviet Russia - Incompetence is its own reward
40088. arkymalarky - 11/11/2008 5:05:42 PM
Racism and stupidity in AR, what can I say? Overlapping groups--not the exact same groups.
40089. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/11/2008 5:27:45 PM
40090. jexster - 11/11/2008 8:13:23 PM
Racism and stupidity in AR, what can I say?
You can say you are sorry for having failed as an educator
40091. arkymalarky - 11/11/2008 8:22:16 PM
Haha! After the 10+ years I spent here trying to educate you and Con'd, I would think my failings as an educator are evident in The Mote.
40092. jexster - 11/11/2008 9:00:41 PM

40093. wonkers2 - 11/11/2008 9:13:49 PM
Jex, Jukes or Kallikaks?
40094. arkymalarky - 11/11/2008 9:17:43 PM
Clear to see why we're so potective of that gene pool.
40095. jexster - 11/11/2008 9:33:21 PM
Joe Stiglitz says LET GM FAIL and punish the executives who are responsible for the mess
AMEN
40096. jexster - 11/11/2008 9:40:34 PM
DEMAND xhange we can believe in!
No taxpayer dollars for this shit
or bacchanals at the Big Rock Chop House
40097. arkymalarky - 11/11/2008 9:42:23 PM
I think they should be forced to lead the Green Revolution in transportation.
What about the Volt?
40098. arkymalarky - 11/11/2008 9:50:15 PM
Okay, Con'd. You've had a week of mourning. Come out of your bunker and congratulate us on our victory. To console yourself you need to try the Obama campaign's tax cut calculator. We'll get a $1500 tax cut under Obama's plan.
40099. jexster - 11/11/2008 10:06:18 PM
But what's Wonkers going to lead????
The next regatta?
I don't want to pay for his luxurious retirement
40100. jexster - 11/12/2008 11:20:03 AM
Poll Shows Wide Support For Liberal Agenda
A new AP/GfK poll suggests a broad mandate for Barack Obama pursuing liberal policies after he is sworn in. The poll shows 78% saying that removing U.S. troops from Iraq by 2010 should be an important or top priority, compared to only 10% who say it shouldn't be done at all, and 59% say it should be an important or top priority to eliminate the previous tax cuts on families making over $250,000, compared to only 18% who say it shouldn't be done.
But what about the Mandate for Socialism? What about nationalizing all financial institutions, insurance companies, oil and auto industries????
40101. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/12/2008 11:29:29 AM
THE NEW LIBERALISM
How the economic crisis can help Obama redefine the Democrats.
by George Packer
40102. jexster - 11/12/2008 11:37:17 AM
Most Powerful Woman in American Politics
40103. jexster - 11/12/2008 11:39:41 AM
40101
I/m concerned
Is this a MandingoDate?
40104. jexster - 11/12/2008 1:02:54 PM
Greatness Watch: The Road to Rushmore
40105. alistairconnor - 11/12/2008 1:30:29 PM
De Gaulle nationalised Renault in 1945
The socialists privatised it in the 90s
That didn't work out too badly.
The People's Car for the new era : Voltswagen?
40106. jexster - 11/12/2008 3:48:33 PM

40107. jexster - 11/12/2008 4:17:11 PM
Why Gates?
40108. jexster - 11/12/2008 4:22:43 PM
New CNN poll
Favorable view of
Demo Party 62%
Grand Old Pigpile 38%
40109. jexster - 11/12/2008 4:39:01 PM
40110. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/12/2008 5:27:23 PM

40111. thoughtful - 11/12/2008 5:35:11 PM
This goper push to nationalize everything is because they still lack a fundamental understanding of how the economy works best. It's not when the focus is on helping business with favorable tax treatment, bail outs, etc...it's when the focus is on helping the consumer.
40112. thoughtful - 11/12/2008 6:02:45 PM
the problem with the volt is it's being designed to run only 40 miles on a charge vs. say the Tesla which is designed to run 220 miles without recharging.
40113. jexster - 11/12/2008 6:48:08 PM
Dems Urge Federal Stake in Auto Industries
Nationalize Lake St. Clair
40114. arkymalarky - 11/12/2008 7:21:15 PM
Who makes the Tesla?
40115. arkymalarky - 11/12/2008 7:24:28 PM
Jex is rabid about Obama for two years, and he runs to the GOP side on the very first issue.
40116. jexster - 11/12/2008 7:54:05 PM
When Detroit says things will be different this time, why should we believe it?
Detroit tries to fool them again
Financial Times
40117. jexster - 11/12/2008 8:58:33 PM
40118. jexster - 11/12/2008 10:01:29 PM
40119. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/12/2008 11:50:05 PM

40120. alistairConnor - 11/13/2008 2:10:02 AM
the problem with the volt is it's being designed to run only 40 miles on a charge vs. say the Tesla which is designed to run 220 miles without recharging.
If you want a 220 mile range, the batteries are currently too expensive for ordinary people to own.
Which leads me to think that the gov't should build the charging stations, and rent the batteries.
40121. robertjayb - 11/13/2008 2:48:19 AM
Yea Begich! Save us from Palin...
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) -- Republican Sen. Ted Stevens, the titan of Alaska politics convicted of felony charges last month, fell behind by more than 800 votes Wednesday as the count resumed in his re-election bid.
Democrat Mark Begich, the two-term mayor of Anchorage, began the day down more than 3,200 votes but went up by 814 as officials resumed their counting of early and absentee ballots. The tally was 132,196 to 131,382.
40122. wonkers2 - 11/13/2008 7:03:11 AM
Good news. Keep our fingers crossed. Wonder why it takes so long to count the votes in Alaska? Something fishy going on?
40123. thoughtful - 11/13/2008 8:48:50 AM
Tesla is made by Tesla Motors
# Reservations for the Tesla Roadster are open to all U.S. residents
# 2009MY Roadster base price: $109,000 (see 2009 spec sheet for more details)
# Availability approximately 12 months
# $5000 refundable reservation fee starts the process and locks in price*
# Additional $55,000 to lock in a production slot and delivery timeframe.
40124. jexster - 11/13/2008 9:42:31 AM
OECD Declares Global Recession
CAUTION: These are the same Pollyannas who said there'd be no recession just last June.
40125. jexster - 11/13/2008 9:43:31 AM
Something fishy going on?
Like the smell around the Grosse Pointe Yacht Club
40126. jexster - 11/13/2008 10:02:06 AM

40127. jexster - 11/13/2008 10:10:24 AM
Don't eat that tuna fish
Palin has reached her sell-by date
40128. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/13/2008 10:44:33 AM
40129. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/13/2008 10:46:24 AM

40130. wonkers2 - 11/13/2008 10:48:28 AM
Out of the frying pan into the fire I urge everyone to watch the video "War Made Easy." It will blow your mind. At least it did mine.
40131. jexster - 11/13/2008 11:26:00 AM
40132. jexster - 11/13/2008 11:38:17 AM
Obama's Chicago Boys
The political animals that roam Mayor Richard Daley’s City Hall are pragmatic deal-makers above all else, including ideology. They would rather win you over than roll you over. Power politics is a bipartisan affair in the Windy City.
40133. wonkers2 - 11/13/2008 12:17:14 PM
40134. thoughtful - 11/13/2008 1:14:08 PM
only problem is he's been up to his eyeballs in this thing so far...and performance of the administration has been less than optimum...do we need more of the same? or do we need some fresh eyes...
40135. wonkers2 - 11/13/2008 1:38:23 PM
That would be nice. I don't have any great ideas, except that I'm not a fan of Summers.
40136. jexster - 11/13/2008 1:44:57 PM
And Summers is no fan of Wonkers
40137. jexster - 11/13/2008 1:46:46 PM
Surgical Prep
The Democrats' secret health care plan
40138. jexster - 11/13/2008 1:49:48 PM
Don't Shit Where You Eat

40139. jexster - 11/13/2008 3:09:46 PM
From the AP ...
40140. jexster - 11/13/2008 3:27:38 PM
40141. thoughtful - 11/13/2008 3:31:01 PM
Apparently the bit about palin not knowing africa was a continent was a hoax. Matters not imo as it was believable, given her inability to reasonably put a thought or a sentence together.
COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? Allow them to spend more and put more money into the economy? Instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?
PALIN: That’s why I say, I like every American I’m speaking with were ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the tax payers looking to bailout.
But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Helping the — Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. Shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americas. A
And trade we’ve got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive scary thing. But 1 in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. ALl those things under the umbrella of job creation.
This bailout is a part of that.
40142. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/13/2008 4:06:19 PM
Joe Is Not With Us On Homeland Security, Either
40143. jexster - 11/13/2008 4:38:06 PM
He can fool Arky, charm AC with his sails (that ain't hard) but Honkers can't fool Elijah Cummings
they take your taxpayer bailout thank you very much then go get their manicures and pedicures
40144. jexster - 11/13/2008 4:46:28 PM
Sarah needs Pastor Muthee
Stevens's pollster has admitted it is over
40145. jexster - 11/13/2008 4:51:23 PM
Latest CNN poll - 45% of conservatives now think Obama is the Messiah
40146. David Ehrenstein - 11/13/2008 5:18:31 PM
Sarah this is God. I want you to stick you head in the oven and turn on the gas.
40147. jexster - 11/13/2008 6:43:07 PM
Other results CNN
* Obama will get us out of Iraq
* Keep us safe from terror
* Win the war in Afghanistan
* Save the economy
* Curb global warming
* provide universal health care

40148. jexster - 11/13/2008 7:47:05 PM
Pat Buchanan came unhinged tonight debating a black GOP strategerist...lovely
40149. jexster - 11/13/2008 8:13:30 PM
At the RGA today, Piglin not only gave shout outs to Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder but also to Charlie Crist and a downs syndrome constituents she met at a FL rally - Charlie the Retard
40150. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/13/2008 9:44:04 PM
John Amato:
This is too much. The Republicans are basically admitting that Katherine Harris stole the election for George Bush.
Republicans are also questioning the credibility of Minnesota’s Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, the man tasked with overseeing the recount. A background document distributed by national Republicans portrays Ritchie as a far-left, Democratic version of Katherine Harris, the former Republican secretary of state whose actions helped decide the 2000 presidential election. The document accuses Ritchie, who was elected in 2006 with the assistance of a progressive-led group designed to elected Democratic election administrators, of having connections to the controversial voter registration group ACORN and the Communist Party of America.
As Al Franken gets closer to victory, the Republicans are unraveling. A recount is definitely on its way. Oh, what fun...
40151. jexster - 11/13/2008 10:32:41 PM
The Worst Is Not Behind Us
Nouriel Roubini, Forbes
Beware of those who say we've hit the bottom.
40152. thoughtful - 11/14/2008 9:19:49 AM
Frankel says a recession has started...he's on the committee that decides such things. He says the committee hasn't officially declared it as they cant decide exactly when it began, but there's no doubt it's here and there's no doubt that we're in the early stages, not later stages.
Today's extremely negative retail sales number is on point.
This economy cannot run on cash alone and no one is lending so that's all that's left.
40153. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/14/2008 10:45:39 AM
Rachel Maddow Makes the Case for Why Lieberman Should Not Keep His Committee Chair
40154. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/14/2008 11:04:43 AM

40155. jexster - 11/14/2008 11:41:40 AM
There he is!!!
40156. jexster - 11/14/2008 12:24:49 PM

40157. jexster - 11/14/2008 2:32:37 PM
40158. wonkers2 - 11/14/2008 2:33:43 PM
Good. Leahy is heavy duty.
40159. jexster - 11/14/2008 5:45:45 PM
David Brooks makes sense
especially if we can get at The Pointes' bloated pensions
40160. jexster - 11/14/2008 6:15:59 PM
Sounds like Billary's back in the house, cleaning the glass ceilings at Foggy Bottom?
40161. jexster - 11/14/2008 7:23:25 PM
Picking Losers
How are we going to build tanks
Well STOOPID STABENOW, we don't have a tank production line you moran....another failed MI politician, the failed state's finest got her panties taken off on Hardball
The zinger Friedman:
40162. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/14/2008 11:43:45 PM

40163. wonkers2 - 11/15/2008 12:20:38 AM
Dwight David Eisenhower's farewell address on the military industrial complex.
40164. David Ehrenstein - 11/15/2008 8:58:22 AM
Latest FaBlog: Fait Diver -- The Far-From-Divine Miss R
40165. OhioSTOPAS - 11/15/2008 9:02:42 AM
Yet ANOTHER disturbing association from Barack Obama's past!
40166. David Ehrenstein - 11/15/2008 9:22:19 AM
FAR more disturbing than Ayers, if true. I'm not putting it past Miss Rove to lie like the proverbial rug.
40167. judithathome - 11/15/2008 11:06:27 AM
I was astonished to see Ashton Kutcher on Real Time last night show that he has more savvy about politics than Sarah Palin! Demi must be a great teacher. ;-)
40168. jexster - 11/15/2008 11:06:54 AM
Your Weekly Remarks from the President-Elect
40169. judithathome - 11/15/2008 11:07:11 AM
And yes, I realize what a low bar I'm setting using Palin as a an example!
40170. jexster - 11/15/2008 11:23:28 AM
The Great Detroit Rip Off
The New York Times features The Failed Governor of the Failed State on the road to pick the taxpayers' pockets.
Short on time?
Ms. Granholm, who played Sarah Palin in Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s warm-ups for the vice-presidential debate
40171. jexster - 11/15/2008 1:33:55 PM
40172. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/15/2008 4:38:22 PM
40173. jexster - 11/15/2008 8:03:04 PM
GOP to Wonkers: Drop Dead
Kenneth Troske, director of the Center for Business and Economic Research at the University of Kentucky, said McConnell might not be a favorite of the auto unions but the industry’s prominence in Kentucky puts him in a bind. “He’s obviously in a difficult position,” Troske said.
Still, Troske added, an auto maker bailout would do more harm than good over the long run because it would set a precedent that some companies are too big to fail. The better alternative for the Big Three would be a Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing, Troske contended. Stockholders and pensioners would be hurt, but the companies would keep operating.
“They’ll continue to produce cars; they’ll continue to sell cars,” Troske said. “The executives would get fired, but they’ve already proven that they don’t know how to run a company.”
Seize the Yachts, Empty the Pensions
40174. wonkers2 - 11/16/2008 10:49:44 AM
40175. jexster - 11/16/2008 10:52:12 AM
The Moose Stops Here
By FRANK RICH
ELECTION junkies in acute withdrawal need suffer no longer. Though the exciting Obama-McCain race is over, the cockfight among the losers has only just begun. The conservative crackup may be ugly, but as entertainment, it’s two thumbs up!
Over at Fox News, Greta Van Susteren has been trashing the credibility of her own network’s chief political correspondent, Carl Cameron, for his report on Sarah Palin’s inability to identify Africa as a continent, while Bill O’Reilly valiantly defends Cameron’s honor. At Slate, a post-mortem of conservative intellectuals descended into name-calling, with the writer Ross Douthat of The Atlantic labeling the legal scholar Douglas Kmiec a “useful idiot.”
40176. David Ehrenstein - 11/16/2008 11:38:43 AM
HERE THEY ARE!!!!
Yesterday's protests were Beyond Thrilling.
40177. jexster - 11/16/2008 11:54:06 AM
Rosie O'Donnell
Ellen Degenerate
Mister Sulu
and Doogie
If that's all there is to love, I'll go back to sleep
40178. jexster - 11/16/2008 11:56:05 AM
The Twins David and Oscar OTOH
But that's INCEST
40179. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/16/2008 12:02:25 PM
I'm against Hillary for State . . .
40180. jexster - 11/16/2008 12:20:51 PM
Bush may still salvage something of a legacy. If he doesn't, no one can blame Gates
40181. jexster - 11/16/2008 2:06:15 PM
Remember the Alamo!
Robert Discomfited
40182. jexster - 11/16/2008 2:24:35 PM
Feeling blue?
I am

40183. jexster - 11/16/2008 2:31:12 PM
Only He could embrace America's Deformities
40184. jexster - 11/16/2008 2:31:46 PM
Wizzer you are but dust
40185. jexster - 11/16/2008 2:43:41 PM
40186. jexster - 11/16/2008 2:48:13 PM
President-elect sends Thank You Letter to Concerned

40187. David Ehrenstein - 11/16/2008 3:22:34 PM
Something is happening and you don't know what it is. . .do you Mr. Jexter
40188. David Ehrenstein - 11/16/2008 3:53:17 PM
Besides, Jex , what about Cheyenne Jackson?
40189. robertjayb - 11/16/2008 4:52:49 PM
Thousands defy deportation orders...HouChron)
First of a three part series...
Federal immigration officials allowed scores of violent criminals — some ordered deported decades ago — to walk away from Harris County Jail despite the inmates' admission to local authorities that they were in the country illegally, a Houston Chronicle investigation found.
A review of thousands of criminal and immigration records shows that Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials didn't file the paperwork to detain roughly 75 percent of the more than 3,500 inmates who told jailers during the booking process that they were in the U.S. illegally.
Further evidence of our broken government...
40190. jexster - 11/16/2008 4:57:03 PM
The more I percolate on the matter the more concerned I become
40191. jexster - 11/16/2008 4:57:48 PM
Further evidence of our broken government.
Gracias Lou Dobbs
40192. jexster - 11/16/2008 5:03:48 PM
Besides, we've survived tens of thousands of years just fine thank you, without gay marriage. Under the present arrrangement I could "marry" both Oscar and David without being charged with either bigamy or incest
40193. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/16/2008 5:09:49 PM

40194. jexster - 11/16/2008 6:19:05 PM
An anxious world awaits his coming.....
G-20 punts to Obama on global finance mess

40195. jexster - 11/16/2008 6:30:57 PM
Brookings scholar Colin Bradford, a former chief economist at the U.S. Agency for International Development, says he tells people from other countries that with Obama, as opposed to Bush, "you know you're not going to find a guy who's sort of sucking his thumb and doesn't know what to do."
40196. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/16/2008 8:55:31 PM
Zell Miller Endorses Saxby Chambliss
40197. wonkers2 - 11/16/2008 9:14:38 PM
I wonder if Lieberman is going to endorse Chambliss also? Just kidding even he wouldn't go that far.
40198. jexster - 11/16/2008 9:27:57 PM
Robert, is it 7 yet?
40199. jexster - 11/16/2008 9:39:13 PM
40200. arkymalarky - 11/16/2008 10:48:29 PM
Zell Miller is a Dixiecrat who was too stupid to switch parties.
40201. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/16/2008 11:30:40 PM

40202. wonkers2 - 11/16/2008 11:35:08 PM
Don't we wish!
40203. David Ehrenstein - 11/17/2008 9:52:46 AM
"Salon" farts in our face again (answered with a few well-chosen words from yours truly.)
40204. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/17/2008 10:02:28 AM
Isn't it always the case, David, that the legless critic often criticizes the runner? Love the un-minced-ness of your response!
40205. thoughtful - 11/17/2008 10:04:57 AM
I saw parts of the obama interview.
I don't know how everyone, regardless of which side of the aisle they sit, isn't breathing a sigh of relief that the country is being put in the hands of someone who is measured, thoughtful, smart, and actually interested in doing the job.
I also can't help but think how embarrassing it must be to be W...to be the lamest of ducks ever with no one really caring what he says or does as he had already faded into total irrelevancy months ago and is now nearly invisible. I'm sure he's deluding himself over his performance in office and I'm sure he's just delighted that he'll be able to retire to crawford to go fishing which is what he's always wanted anyway. But somewhere inside he knows, like most of the rest of his life, he's f'd this up too.
Still, as pitiable figure as he is, I can't feel a drop of sympathy.
40206. thoughtful - 11/17/2008 10:44:19 AM
has anyone seen or heard anything from dick cheney? is he spending his last few days shredding everything in sight? a better prospect than planning an attack on iran....
40207. magoseph - 11/17/2008 10:56:19 AM
The last time I saw him on the News was when he showed his residence to the Bidens. I think it was last Friday.
40208. jexster - 11/17/2008 11:48:24 AM
I was GLORIOUS seeing Barack and his lovely wife last night
40209. jexster - 11/17/2008 11:49:24 AM
I feel Robert's pain
Avenge What's Her Name
After Obama's win, white backlash festers in US
40210. jexster - 11/17/2008 11:52:41 AM
"Anytime you start seeing [extremist propaganda] floating around, you have to be concerned," adds Lt. Gary Thornberry of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, a member of the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force
40211. jexster - 11/17/2008 11:54:51 AM
40212. alistairconnor - 11/17/2008 11:56:34 AM
I think W's destiny will be rather like Gorbachev's.
He'll be seen by his own people as a disaster, the cause of a great nation's downfall. He will be hugely unpopular but completely irrelevant, an object of contempt and derision.
Oh, but unlike Gorbachev, he won't be popular in other countries either.
40213. David Ehrenstein - 11/17/2008 12:38:36 PM
I never mince.
Well not verbally at any rate.
40214. judithathome - 11/17/2008 1:22:27 PM
We saw the 60 Minutes interview last night and loved every minute of it.
Keoni used to be an investigator...inner-company, loss prevention...and he has been trained to spot "tells", personal tics which give you away when you're lying. He caught Obama in two "pseudo lies" in that interview...pseudo used as "non-harmful shadings of the truth": once when he said Bush was gracious in the White House tour and strangely enough, again when he said speaking with former presidents, they told him the job of being President was "lonely".
Keoni said the second one might be because Obama didn't believe it and that could be because he has such a close connection with his wife...in other words, couldn't ever BE lonely.
Speaking of feeling good about having a smart and articulate man in the White House, I said to Keoni that the comparison was like Socrates to Ozzy Osbourne.
40215. jexster - 11/17/2008 1:27:52 PM
"Ladies and gentlemen, Barack Obama is our new president.
And I think I speak for most Americans when I say, anybody
mind if he starts a little early?"
David Letterman
40216. jexster - 11/17/2008 1:34:21 PM
I think Keoni's on to something with that lonely take. When I read the transcript, it was much more believable now that I percolate on it.
Michelle has that man PWord whipped that's for sure
40217. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/17/2008 2:05:15 PM
I think it's finally time for The Wizard Of Whimsy to retire--now that we have someone like Obama. I can feel the indignation and outrage fading. It also means more time in the real studio, less in the digital--thankfully!
40218. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/17/2008 2:08:57 PM
40219. jexster - 11/17/2008 2:33:56 PM
Don't worry Wizzer...the South SHALL rise again
The Huckabeast is out on his Book Tour shredding the field and Piyush ain't just bakin nan
40220. jexster - 11/17/2008 2:38:19 PM
There is no God but God...
and Hussein is his Prophet (PBUH)
60 Minutes Breaks 10 Year Ratings Record with O!view
40221. jexster - 11/17/2008 2:45:34 PM
He da GREATISS

40222. thoughtful - 11/17/2008 2:49:24 PM
I feel really badly for obama...he's in a position of such high expectations that unless come Jan20 the sky bursts out in rainbows and manna falls from the heavens, he'll be considered a disappointment.
Of course, by comparison to the current fella, the bar has been set very very low
40223. jexster - 11/17/2008 2:51:02 PM
DiFi DoubleTalk
KOS has been publishing what it calls "Senatorial Steak Sauce"
This from DiFi fits the pattern...What kind of turnips do they take us for? The decision is being made NOW for the NEXT congreff
Tomorrow in fact
40224. jexster - 11/17/2008 3:07:13 PM
40225. jexster - 11/17/2008 3:21:09 PM

40226. wonkers2 - 11/17/2008 3:37:37 PM
Carper is right. Off with Joe's head or other parts of his anatomy!
40227. jexster - 11/17/2008 4:29:33 PM
So you've written LevinE and that other idiot?
40228. jexster - 11/17/2008 4:30:45 PM
George Herbert Hoover Bush
Forecasters: US in 14 month recession
40229. wonkers2 - 11/17/2008 5:22:07 PM
Dan Rather's $70 million lawsuit against CBS gains traction Too bad Phil Donohue didn't sue NBC for firing him becaused he was skeptical of the Iraq invasion!
40230. arkymalarky - 11/17/2008 5:26:27 PM
Huckabee simply cannot keep his petty hatefulness under wraps for very long. And he's a vindictive man with a short fuse. He will consider Romney an enewmy for life and will believe he's important enough for Romney to give a shit. I was glad to see him innoculate himself against a 2012 nomination.
40231. jexster - 11/17/2008 6:25:18 PM
Huckabeast ROCKS
I saw him on Fox last night...well I watched 2 minutes of it
I am proud to have counted myself among his supporters this year...pig proud
40232. jexster - 11/17/2008 6:39:35 PM
Latest word is that the same Senators Garden Slug who want to bailout GM will let Mentum keep his job
40233. jexster - 11/17/2008 6:44:32 PM
I smell ANOTHER rat
Through its GE Capital subsidiary gets about from 30-50% of its revenue from the finance business. So bailing it out makes as much sense as bailing out AIG or the investment banks.
And in terms of assets, it's leveraged also - about 80% of GE's total assets are controlled by GE Capital. So it's better to think of it as a bank with an industrial base, rather than an industrial company that does financing.
WSJ
40234. jexster - 11/17/2008 6:51:14 PM
I LOVE it when those douche nozzles trot out "OOOO just think of all the extra medicaid costs when Detroit cuts its deadwood on to the US social safety net"
States have slashed Medicaid with every fiscal crisis over the past 20 years to the point where you have to be homeless to qualify...
How bout fixing Medicaid FIRST...enough waiting for our tax dollars to trickle down from Grosse Pointe
40235. jexster - 11/17/2008 7:08:29 PM
GM Executives falling into the Social Safety Net, Sea of Cortez

40236. jexster - 11/17/2008 7:11:13 PM
Winter Sailing on Lake St. Clair
WASHINGTON – Prospects dimmed on Monday for the $25 billion bailout that U.S. automakers say they desperately need to get through a bleak and dangerous December.

40237. jexster - 11/17/2008 7:21:57 PM
The usual suspects are also fond of HONKING "well if it were different times (ie we weren't in such a fucking mess already), we could let GM go bankrupt as God intended when he invented bankruptcy...blah..blah..blah
Brings up an interesting anecdote...when Wonkers picked me up for lunch in a rented LINCOLN....and proceeded to launch into a Detroit Buy American Sales pitch...v. 1976
perhaps we should repo the Escalades and Navigators from the morans who bought them on credit or charge them the FULL cost of ownership now that the bill has come due and we know what it is
40238. jexster - 11/17/2008 7:22:29 PM
If only GM had gone bankrupt 10 years ago....
40239. jexster - 11/17/2008 7:26:16 PM
I don't know what makes me angrier...the Marmots of the Senate, the big 3 boobs or the international spanish finance conspiracy
40240. jexster - 11/17/2008 7:32:31 PM
The latest from the Grosse Pointe flakery
40241. robertjayb - 11/17/2008 8:07:58 PM
Second in Houston Chronicle series...
An abuse of freedom...
Many illegal immigrants out on bail commit another crime or vanish before trial...
40242. jexster - 11/17/2008 8:22:42 PM
Thanks again Lou!
40243. jexster - 11/17/2008 8:23:14 PM
Prolly find em washing dishes at Snow's BBQ
40244. jexster - 11/17/2008 8:27:11 PM
Speaking of messes of brisket
Hillary Clinton to accept Obama's offer of secretary of state job
President-elect Barack Obama reaching out to former rivals to build a broad coalition administration
40245. jexster - 11/17/2008 8:30:04 PM
I do not wish to make too much light of Robert's beaner concerns here.
I am, as many of you may recall, a TOTAL fan of the First 48 TV series and this is a persistent problem for the fine men of the Dallas PD Homicide Unit...Mexicans killin then headin for the Pecos never to be seen again until they crawl back into the Great State for more rape and pillage
40246. jexster - 11/17/2008 8:34:51 PM
SAN FRANCISCO -- November 13
40247. jexster - 11/17/2008 9:42:57 PM
Chris Hayes
The Nation
"Joe the Bummer"
Countdown
40248. robertjayb - 11/17/2008 10:04:28 PM
Fear not...Big John is on the case...
Senator John Cornyn wants investigation into immigrant inmates...
Lawmaker's call for action follows Chronicle's series on the release of violent criminals who admitted to jailers they were in the U.S. illegally.
.................................................
The Chronicle investigation found federal immigration officials allowed scores of violent criminals, including some ordered deported decades ago, to walk away from jail despite the inmates' admission to jailers that they were in the country illegally.
40249. thoughtful - 11/18/2008 8:57:11 AM
Can't say as i'm fond of the idea of hillary as secstate...i'd have preferred wes clark or colin powell...one of them should be secdef and one should be secstate...not that i have any say in the matter. she would be good at hhs...
but anything is better than kerry as secstate about whom rumors were flying around. if he needs something give him transportation or ag ...
40250. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/18/2008 10:03:16 AM
Last night's The Charlie Rose Show offered up some new insight as to why Obama may want Hillary at State. Evidentally, she has a very strong and friendly working relationship with Joe Biden that the other candidates don't have. It seems that he has made it clear that he wants to be directly involved in foreign policy decisions.
Moreover, it's a politically shrewd move to get Clinton out of the senate, where she may come to a point at which she no longer wants to carry Obama's water in that body and thus strike off on her own--the way Teddy Kennedy challenged Carter, after one term, for the party's nomination.
40251. David Ehrenstein - 11/18/2008 10:51:00 AM
The Perfect "Stocking-Stuffer"!
40252. jexster - 11/18/2008 11:07:48 AM
The New Republic
Defining Barack Down by Jonathan Chait
In which we separate the mandates from the boy-dates.
40253. jexster - 11/18/2008 11:59:42 AM
Well the Senate Democrats still have no spine
40254. jexster - 11/18/2008 11:59:55 AM
Let em run GM
40255. jexster - 11/18/2008 12:30:59 PM
Called DSCC and removed myself from their solicitation list. Another fine job from Caucus Leader Debbie Stabenow (D-Failed State)
Let Lieberman bailout GM
40256. jexster - 11/18/2008 1:01:23 PM
In 1996 Willie Brown called his Board of Supervisors a "collection of pantywaists" and proceeded
"I'm telling you, I can produce six votes on that board any day of the week. For anything. . . . But I have to do it when I think it's wise to do it.
"I have to do it when I can do it a second time. This is not a gas station in the desert. This is not Dick Morris dealing with a $200 hooker. These are long-term relationships. These are mistresses that you have to service."
The US Senate..a whore by any other name
40257. alistairconnor - 11/18/2008 1:05:41 PM
For Secretary of State, I'm still hoping for Samantha "Hillary is a monster" Power.
40258. robertjayb - 11/18/2008 1:45:25 PM
Samantha is an impressive broad. Maybe in hearings she could reveal why she considers Hillary a monster.
40259. jexster - 11/18/2008 1:55:20 PM
She's a bitch alright
But now she's Barack's bitch
40260. jexster - 11/18/2008 1:59:49 PM
Hey Robert did you catch COPS last night..one of my favorite episodes...a subject near and dear to you and Lou Dobbs - Beaner Control - El Paso PD!
A murder on the bridge.....a gang killing (Mexicans hunt in packs, coloreds do it solo - did you know that?)
Thing is ..the EPD is Mexican too! and there's this constant stream of Mexicans on the Bridge from Juarez..they all look alike!!!
What's a good, Texas proud white man to do?
40261. jexster - 11/18/2008 2:02:49 PM
All the spine of Chris Dodd's triple chin
40262. jexster - 11/18/2008 3:08:02 PM
Chris Dodd is about to introduce the Big Three Leaches
Hasn't that fat fuck Liebermanned us enough for one day?
40263. jexster - 11/18/2008 3:15:52 PM
Liebermanned Again
How much more evidence do we need?
40264. jexster - 11/18/2008 3:17:39 PM
40265. jexster - 11/18/2008 3:28:49 PM
We had a very nice discussion..Joe Lieberman is a Democrat
Harry Gives Em Hell
40266. wonkers2 - 11/18/2008 3:28:52 PM
The Nation on auto industry assistance
40267. jexster - 11/18/2008 3:34:50 PM
The last time I checked, the US bankruptcy courts were open for business
40268. jexster - 11/18/2008 3:35:26 PM
40269. robertjayb - 11/18/2008 3:44:42 PM
I'm your worst fuckin' nightmare, man. I'm a ______ with a badge...
40270. jexster - 11/18/2008 3:50:05 PM

40271. jexster - 11/18/2008 3:53:41 PM
I will save the Southern White man from extinction if it is the last thing I do and restore his racial pride and rightful place, if it shortdicks every yacht sailing Escalade driving Honking guilt ridden liberal PC poohlessman on the planet
40272. jexster - 11/18/2008 3:56:45 PM
Sander Levin's on CNN begging for the Mark of Excellence
a pitiful sight
"We can't let this happen.."
Oh YES WE CAN
Just watch
40273. jexster - 11/18/2008 4:16:50 PM
laughatlieberman.com, is organizing prank phone calls to the senator’s office

40274. jexster - 11/18/2008 4:45:54 PM
MSNBC is now reporting that Holder has been embraced by a bipartiaan majority of marmots and accepted the post
Truly, now the Sheriff is a Nigger
40275. robertjayb - 11/18/2008 5:56:44 PM
Begich lead grows in Alaska...
Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich's lead over Sen. Ted Stevens is growing in today's ballot count in the race for U.S. Senate. The latest numbers, issued just before 5 p.m. Eastern time, show Begich up by 2,374 votes.
The Division of Elections expects to release more numbers between 8 and 9 p.m. Eastern.
Today's count of about 24,000 absentee and questioned ballots should pretty much decide the race, although there will be a few more overseas absentees to count over the next couple days and a likely recount in early December.
Good job Ted can retire to a nice house.
(McClatchy)
40276. robertjayb - 11/18/2008 5:59:54 PM
or maybe jail...heh
40277. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/18/2008 6:10:51 PM
This is a timely jeremiad . . .
40278. David Ehrenstein - 11/18/2008 6:44:36 PM
Is that Elian with his boyfriend?
40279. jexster - 11/18/2008 7:06:31 PM
Yes ..his Young Commie BF
Fucking Workers' Paradise ain't it!
40280. jexster - 11/18/2008 7:12:06 PM
Willacy County GJ Indicts Cheney
40281. jexster - 11/18/2008 7:22:28 PM
I picked this up from Yahoo Buzz comments on Holder
"Boots" Robert???
How Texican
40282. jexster - 11/18/2008 8:19:52 PM
From Washington Monthly
I remember John Rarick. Ran for governor if I recall. From West Feliciana Parish. Klan it was rumored. Favorite backdrop - Stars and Bars
40283. jexster - 11/18/2008 8:25:04 PM
Well I don't have early onset Alzheimer's...
total recall
Looks the part don't he!

40284. arkymalarky - 11/18/2008 8:41:18 PM
If they dumped Lieberman from the chairmanship they'd lose the only weapon they have to encourage him to toe the line in a crucial session. They also jeopardize bipartisanship led by McCain and others that would diminish the legitimacy of Obama's goals. Priority one is getting his agenda through. He's not going to let disgust with Lieberman put it at risk or make it look like a Liberal steamroll when things get passed.
I'd love to see Liebeeman thrown out, but I understand why it didn't happen.
40285. robertjayb - 11/18/2008 9:02:15 PM
Mexicans gone wild: Cheney, Gonzales indicted...
McALLEN — A South Texas grand jury has indicted Vice President Dick Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on state charges related to the alleged abuse of prisoners in Willacy County's federal detention centers.
The indictment, which had not yet been signed by the presiding judge, was one of seven released Tuesday in a county that has been a source of bizarre legal and political battles in recent years. Another of the indictments named a state senator on charges of profiting from his position.
40286. jexster - 11/18/2008 9:32:03 PM
Arky-
And concerned voted for Obama
Pollyanna wanna cracker?
40287. jexster - 11/18/2008 9:33:49 PM
I smell putrefying gefilte fish don't you Wizzer?
40288. jexster - 11/18/2008 9:34:47 PM
Robert must have been overcome by smoke from his smoker
40289. jexster - 11/18/2008 9:38:33 PM
I see that the Willacy DA is also after my habanero heartthrob Eddie Lucio Jr...an Obama supporter
Revenge of the Wicked Witch of the East?
40290. jexster - 11/18/2008 9:41:44 PM
I done got myself a fearsome hankerin for a mess or 2 of brisket all of a sudden like

40291. jexster - 11/18/2008 9:52:48 PM
Big John, Big Bad John....
Big D Mornin News:
The dwindling ranks of GOP senators chose Texan John Cornyn this morning to lead their campaign effort for the next two years.
"The right policies and the right message are very, very important, but they don’t count for much unless you can win elections," Mr. Cornyn said after Senate Republicans elected leaders for the new Congress. "Now we’ll get to work."
40292. arkymalarky - 11/18/2008 10:12:17 PM
Con'd has yet to come in and say how he voted. He could easily be one of that 20% of Republicans who went for Obama.
40293. jexster - 11/18/2008 10:31:38 PM
and JoeMentum won't sleep nights afeared of what the Dems will do do him!
Folks chuckled when Sister Sarah promised to run the Senate. She'd have driven this bunch like a herd of hampsters

40294. jexster - 11/18/2008 10:38:42 PM
Nov. 19, 2008 | WASHINGTON -- If you ever happen to find yourself accused of serious wrongdoing -- publicly betraying your friends and colleagues, say, or maybe something like a federal felony conviction -- forget about a jury of your peers. What you're really looking for is a jury composed entirely of members of the United States Senate.
House of Marmots: A Jury of His Peers
40295. jexster - 11/18/2008 10:42:54 PM
Exactly why Lieberman felt he had any leverage -- after picking sides against his own party, and picking the losing side, to boot -- was unclear. Yes, he could have been a nuisance to Reid if he felt scorned, and Republicans were reaching out to bring him into their caucus if the opportunity presented itself. But a nuisance is about all he could have been. (On the other hand, leaving him with a committee gavel means he's got subpoena power to investigate Obama's administration, though the fact that he never used that power to investigate George W. Bush's should mean he'll be similarly easy on Obama.)
How much "leverage" do they think they have now?
40296. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/19/2008 8:28:04 AM
Sit back and savor the schadenfreude . . .
40297. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/19/2008 8:30:32 AM
40298. judithathome - 11/19/2008 9:03:54 AM
If John Cornyn is the best they do, they are in worse shape than I thought.
Hear it now: Cornyn 2012. We better pray that happens because this guy is almost as clueless as Bush.
...oh, wait.
40299. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/19/2008 10:35:39 AM
Cheesy & Greedy Gonzales indicted . . .
40300. wonkers2 - 11/19/2008 10:41:49 AM
Jack Lessenberry on auto bailout
40301. wonkers2 - 11/19/2008 10:43:25 AM
Soros: The Crisis and What to Do About It
40302. wonkers2 - 11/19/2008 10:48:25 AM
The Antichrist of the Bush Administration
40303. jexster - 11/19/2008 11:36:24 AM
Wonkers yachting pal Mitt says let em go bankrupt. Seems folks like Mitt and me who knows bidniss know exactly what to do
40304. jexster - 11/19/2008 11:42:41 AM
You made the right choice when you put your confidence in General Motors
Troy Clarke begs lessees to ask Congress to save them. Marmot Leader Reid's sayin sorry chumps
40305. jexster - 11/19/2008 11:59:48 AM
Rahm Sez O! to GO! LO!ng and Deep
40306. jexster - 11/19/2008 12:00:45 PM
I'm likin Big John...that commercial of his puts me a mind of Robert
40307. jexster - 11/19/2008 12:02:08 PM
He fought heathens and hellions and all kindsa crime....
40308. jexster - 11/19/2008 12:22:43 PM
40309. wonkers2 - 11/19/2008 12:28:58 PM
I'm not a big fan of Mitt or his father who had a bit of a messiah complex.
40310. jexster - 11/19/2008 12:41:59 PM
Well take THAT Smitt!
Have you noticed that Deetroit's been leaking sneak peaks at their 2010 car lines?
Don't buy in 2009..better deal in 2010 on cream puffs like this 2010 Camarro.....everyone wants to pitch the black buyers these days don't they!

40311. jexster - 11/19/2008 12:44:17 PM
Daschle to HHS
40312. jexster - 11/19/2008 1:06:17 PM
Good point on MSNBC...put Rahm's comments that health care has priority with a health care expert like Daschle and that means O's goin to fix our health care system right out of the box...also means Hillary to State...too many other big fish in the health pond
40313. David Ehrenstein - 11/19/2008 1:10:29 PM
Latest FaBlog: You Gotta Give 'em Hope
40314. jexster - 11/19/2008 1:23:14 PM
The Boy's gots game
Health Insurers Back Universal Care with Mandates
40315. wonkers2 - 11/19/2008 1:29:01 PM
Fine, but I don't trust the health insurance industry parasites.
40316. jexster - 11/19/2008 1:38:07 PM
That's too fucking bad
What this means is that we're going to get universal health care.
40317. jexster - 11/19/2008 1:38:58 PM
Richard Shelby gets it....enough of the ready fire aim bailouts of failed corporations
Of course, his state makes high quality foreign automobiles
40318. jexster - 11/19/2008 1:41:13 PM
No Thelma and Louise commericals this time around. The insurance companies know the jig is up..they're gonna have to swallow socialized medicine or it'll be done the hard way
They know that a new sheriff's in town and there will be no more fucking around with Honking Failed States
40319. jexster - 11/19/2008 1:43:31 PM
And since we voted a mandate for socialism, let's stop corporate welfare on the shores of Lake St. Clair...instead of throwing money down the black hole of Michigan the First Failed State..let's just cut to the chase and turn the place into the First Socialist Welfare State and be done with it
More efficient
Less costly
More sens
40320. jexster - 11/19/2008 2:20:27 PM
Obama: 67,065,042 (52.7%, 365 EVs)
McCain: 58,420,587 (45.9%, 162 EVs)
40321. thoughtful - 11/19/2008 2:21:20 PM
Jex, I saw rahm on cspan this a.m. Man is he impressive. Very concise, very no nonsense, clearly knew his stuff.
If these guys succeed with only half of what they're talking about and if these guys are only half as good as they appear, we're going to be light years ahead of where we are today in short order.
Now if only the *#($*@!! congressional dems and gopers don't screw this up!
40322. jexster - 11/19/2008 2:22:41 PM
He's bringing on some heavy duty talent ain't he...No more Texas hacks
Robert's like a june bug without a duck
40323. jexster - 11/19/2008 2:22:56 PM
a brisket without a dry rub
40324. jexster - 11/19/2008 2:34:30 PM
Al Zawahiri - The Sheriff is a House Nigger
Man's got more white pride than Concerned
40325. jexster - 11/19/2008 2:45:38 PM
Pelosi Whacks Dingell
That man was a mess when I was there....WAY before he went senile
40326. jexster - 11/19/2008 2:53:00 PM
Daschle Pick A Clear Sign That Obama Will Attempt Ambitious Health Care Reform
The folks who know what they're talking about when discussing health care say that the choice of Tom Daschle to head Health and Human Services is hugely significant in two ways.....
Needn't read further. I've already said the rest
40327. thoughtful - 11/19/2008 3:22:38 PM
How wonderful it will be to get a govt run by smart people again!!!
And how shocking it is to see how quickly the 'know-nothings' were able to run the country into the ditch!
40328. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/19/2008 3:29:41 PM

40329. jexster - 11/19/2008 4:19:07 PM
I just got an email from "Give Em Hell Harry" seeking bucks for Martin in GA
I unsubscribed ..gave my reason - told him to beg Lieberman
40330. jexster - 11/19/2008 4:19:50 PM
I am tired of being Wall St., Lieberman and Wonkers from Detroit jewing me
40331. jexster - 11/19/2008 4:20:24 PM
Your Transition: Energy/Environment
40332. jexster - 11/19/2008 4:39:49 PM
Honesty from Michigan
a welcome change
40333. jexster - 11/19/2008 4:53:12 PM
Robert's Most Wanted: Public Thug No. 1
40334. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/19/2008 5:31:52 PM
Gadzooks!!! Can't you just smell the clean air rushing into this elevator called America--clearing out the Bush Fart that's been lingering for eight fucking years.
40335. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/19/2008 5:32:31 PM
Toys
40336. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/19/2008 5:43:58 PM
Ned Lamont's take on Senator Douche-bag . . .
40337. wonkers2 - 11/19/2008 6:17:48 PM
Esquire's 10 Best Members of Congress
Rep. Mike Pence (R) Indiana
Rep. Henry Waxman (D)California
Rep. Jeff Flake (R) Arizona
Rep. Ike Skelton (D) Missouri
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D) Rhode Island
Rep. Mike Simpson (R) Idaho
Sen. Olympia Snowe (R) Maine
Sen. Lamar Alexander (R) Tennessee
Rep. Arthur Davis (D) Alabama
Sen. Mark Pryor (D) Arkansas
10 Worst
Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R) Georgia
Rep. Michele Bachman (R) Minnesota
Sen. John Cormyn (R) Texas
Sen. Joe Lieberman (I) Connecticut
Rep. Pete Stark (D) California
Rep. William Jefferson (D) Louisiana
Rep. Steve King (R) Iowa
Rep. Joe Baca (D) California
Rep. John Murtha (D) Pennsylvania
Sen. Ted Stevens (R) Alaska
40338. jexster - 11/19/2008 6:58:22 PM
Even as they reported the skies over Washington were darkened by all private jets carrying auto execs with their tin cups, Sander Levin, Warmonger and International Financial Conspirator, was on MNSBC telling Americans to fear that our great military empire would fall into the hands of foreigners if we didn't bail his capitalist masters out
40339. jexster - 11/19/2008 7:15:00 PM
Joan Walsh gets it
Whoever Barack Hussein Obama picks is my choice too. He is god. We aren't
40340. jexster - 11/19/2008 7:17:52 PM
At least he saved Mentum
Give em hell Harry
WASHINGTON – The Senate's top Democrat has called off a planned vote this week on a $25 billion auto industry bailout. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said that he wanted to figure out some way to help Detroit's struggling Big Three but that efforts to do so had stalled.
40341. jexster - 11/19/2008 7:22:54 PM
CNN: Wonkers Pals Fly to DC in Corporate Jets

40342. jexster - 11/19/2008 7:46:11 PM
Good for the Nation
Levin to Dems: Don't Wait for GM to Fall
40343. jexster - 11/19/2008 7:54:37 PM
a KOS post makes an excellent point
The Senate will name Lieberman chairman in an organizing resolution. It will take another to remove him. 60 votes are required to stop any filibuster
Like I said Arky, Joe isn't losing any sleep...in fact he's sleeping like a newborn
Lieberman: I wasn't punished
40344. jexster - 11/19/2008 8:04:25 PM
What's good for JoeMentum is good for the Nation
40345. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/19/2008 8:11:50 PM
Like most fools, jexster, Americans won't know what they've lost until they lose it-- and I'm talking about the auto industry.
40346. jexster - 11/19/2008 8:19:59 PM
Well we'll find out soon enough
40347. jexster - 11/19/2008 8:21:12 PM
GM has a fleet of 8 corporate jets
I'll miss every last one, but I am sure I will get over it
When life gives you lemons, retired GM execs make for the Sea of Cortez
40348. jexster - 11/19/2008 8:23:31 PM
You don't know what you've lost til it's gone
they paved paradise put up a parkin lot
40349. wonkers2 - 11/19/2008 8:25:58 PM
Cap'n Dirty sez, "Joan Walsh is hot!"
40350. jexster - 11/19/2008 8:38:24 PM
Joe Lieberman sez
I feel closer to Wizzer than ever
40351. jexster - 11/19/2008 8:44:31 PM
Which one of you killed Roger Rabbit???
University at Jefferson
Grosse Pointe

40352. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/19/2008 8:51:29 PM

40353. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/19/2008 8:52:35 PM

40354. jexster - 11/19/2008 8:53:16 PM
Team of Losers
House Republicans are holding leadership elections at this hour in a grand Ways and Means Committee room in the Longworth House Office Building. But at the rate they've been going, the GOP will be able to hold their caucus meetings in a phone booth.
40355. jexster - 11/19/2008 8:56:13 PM
Milbank: Former Senator, Seeks Work
40356. jexster - 11/19/2008 9:02:02 PM
Dana Milbank - Definitely NOT God's plan
40357. jexster - 11/19/2008 9:35:27 PM
AP - A Democratic Congress, unwilling or unable to approve a $25 billion bailout for Detroit's Big Three, appears ready to punt the automakers' fate to a lame-duck Republican president.
All hands on deck Wonkers
40358. OhioSTOPAS - 11/19/2008 9:43:50 PM
From an op-ed by Thomas Frank in today's Wall Street Journal:
""This is the demise of a civilization," moaned Bernie Marcus, cofounder and former CEO of The Home Depot, during an Oct. 17 conference call about card check. "This is how a civilization disappears. I'm sitting here as an elder statesman, and I'm watching this happen, and I don't believe it."
"Mr. Marcus sketched out the doomsday scenario for his listeners, with unions going after what he called the "low hanging fruit" and proceeding to organize workers in industry after industry. He had taken it upon himself to notify the nation's CEOs of the danger, but they were not yet grabbing their guns. "This is as important as anything that's ever happened to these companies. And they're not reacting, and they're not fighting. The old time fighters are gone."
"But in the class war, as in the real deal, there are always ways of motivating the yellow. "If a retailer has not gotten involved with this, if he has not spent money on this election, if he has not sent money to Norm Coleman and these other guys," Mr. Marcus said, apparently referring to Republican senators facing tough re-election fights, then those retailers "should be shot; should be thrown out of their goddamn jobs.""
How sad is this? Is capitalism such a poor system that one can't make a profit if labor is unionized? Shareholders organized into a corporation have no chance if the workers they negotiate with are organized into a union? Having to pay workers bargained-for wages and benefits will bring down the big three automakers?
Karl Marx posited that capitalism could not and/or would not ever afford workers a living wage and still be profitable. However, the experience of America and the world (at least after the end of the Depression) has proved him wrong. But today we have our biggest capitalists essentially agreeing with Marx! They should listen to themselves sometimes.
40359. OhioSTOPAS - 11/19/2008 9:47:26 PM
It's like how conservatives credit the fall of the Soviet Union to Ronald Reagan. You'd think these red-blooded patriots would vigorously argue that Communism was doomed to fail because of its unfairness and inefficiency, and its gross inferiority to democracy. But because a Republican was president when the USSR inevitably fell, they instead argue that Communism would be strong and thriving in perpetuity - but for Saint Ronnie.
40360. wonkers2 - 11/19/2008 10:48:57 PM
Good points.
40361. jexster - 11/19/2008 11:10:30 PM
No sooner had I read an AP report that Roemer was on the short list for Homeland Securator
Janet Napolitano
AP also had him down for National Intel Director
Things not lookin good for my fat govt pension plan plans
40362. jexster - 11/19/2008 11:11:01 PM
GM need a lobbyist?
Driven a Ford lately Wonk?
40363. jexster - 11/19/2008 11:17:38 PM
Penny Pritzker - Commerce Secretary
40364. jexster - 11/20/2008 11:29:13 AM
Holy Crap
Rep. Henry Waxman (D) has ousted John Dingell (D) as Chair of the Energy and Commerce Committee.
That's a hugely big deal on any number of levels -- not least of which is the two men's very different positions on energy policy. We'll have more soon.
--Josh Marshall
Happy Day!
40365. jexster - 11/20/2008 11:32:57 AM
Pelosi for Senate Majority Leader
40366. jexster - 11/20/2008 11:37:43 AM
GM - a Bank with a Manufacturing Operation - Seeks TARP Bailout
40367. jexster - 11/20/2008 11:57:19 AM
Totally toxic ...G20 Leaders wouldn't shake his hand
"like he's got the cooties"
40368. wonkers2 - 11/20/2008 12:02:27 PM
The care companies have made plenty of mistakes, the most recent one flying to D.C. separately in three company planes. However, it would be only fair to remember how quickly Congress and Bush came up with $700 billion for Wall Street and the Banking industry and another $200? billion or so for AIG. By comparison, $25 billion for GM, Ford and Chrysler is a bargain. A lot of people will be hurt if a couple of the American car companies go down. And that would mean a deeper and longer recession.
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