American Politics, pt. 16

30001. concerned - 6/5/2008 1:17:02 PM

millennial?

30002. arkymalarky - 6/5/2008 1:17:03 PM

Yeow!

30003. concerned - 6/5/2008 1:17:36 PM

Dang. Jexster grabbed it.

30004. arkymalarky - 6/5/2008 1:17:39 PM

Damn. I guess odds were that he'd get it.

30005. jexster - 6/5/2008 1:17:59 PM

Then you have nothing to fear except fear itself and the GOP crony capitalists who've been butt fucking you for 8 years

30006. jexster - 6/5/2008 1:18:34 PM

That's the first one I have ever nailed

Cause I never bother

30007. concerned - 6/5/2008 1:18:36 PM

An 'early stage' of a recession is not a recession, of course.

No contraction, no recession.

30008. arkymalarky - 6/5/2008 1:19:19 PM

Then you ought to be for Obama, Con'd, because his plan gives YOU SPECIFICALLY a tax cut.

30009. jexster - 6/5/2008 1:19:54 PM

If the economy is in the early stage of a recession it's in the early stage of recession

30010. arkymalarky - 6/5/2008 1:20:01 PM

Jex, I bet you bagged 20 or more that you didn't even notice!

30011. jexster - 6/5/2008 1:21:29 PM

If the economy is not in the early stage of McBush recession, the economy is not in the early stage of recession

If the sun isn't shining, the sun isn't shining

30012. jexster - 6/5/2008 1:22:15 PM

If McBush lied about Iraq, McBush lied about Iraq

If Jex hit the millenial, Jex hit the millenial

30013. jexster - 6/5/2008 1:24:01 PM

If Arky is a hillbilly, Arky is a Hillbilly
If Robert is a Bubba, Robert is a bubba
If AC is a cheese eating surrender monkey, AC is a cheese eating surrender monkey
If Mago is a shoulder pad feminist, she's a SPF..


Get the concept?

Or do I have to go to the next millenial?

30014. jexster - 6/5/2008 1:27:05 PM

Besides, USG econ stats have been so jimmyjacked by various administrations over the past 40 years that they're practically meaningless

Or haven't you bought groceries lately?

30015. jexster - 6/5/2008 1:37:00 PM

Yea the organization is amazing Arky but as the Time article puts it

At bottom, Obama built a new party in 2008

That's why he's the greatest negro in history

30016. jexster - 6/5/2008 1:41:19 PM

I am the greatest!

30017. thoughtful - 6/5/2008 1:57:50 PM

Con'd,
You do not need to have 2 consecutive quarters of negative gdp growth to qualify for a recession. Just check out w's first recession.

Go to nber.org and you'll see the official definition of recession from those who actually determine such things.

And if you wish to do some real research, go to bea.gov and look at historical gdp growth and you'll see that many recessions have started with real gdp in positive growth territory.

30018. arkymalarky - 6/5/2008 2:00:41 PM

Yesyesyes, Jex, but separately, it is amazing to me that in a year and a half they never had a leak they didn't intend. Amazing.

30019. concerned - 6/5/2008 2:05:45 PM

A crowd of adoring Obamessiah admirers.

30020. concerned - 6/5/2008 2:15:47 PM

Re. 30017 -

'thoughtful' -

Since we have had ZERO quarters of GDP contraction in the last year, there's no recession. In fact, we've had positive growth in every one.

Why is this so hard for you to accept?

There may be a recession in the future - hopefully not. But there isn't one now, and those who in a biased or selective way redefine such things in order to 'back up' their a priori assertions that we are currently in a recession should be disregarded on the matter.

I know a lot of people would love to blame the current administration for causing a recession, but that cannot justify lying about the facts, and the facts are that we are not in a recession.

30021. concerned - 6/5/2008 2:19:22 PM

Then you ought to be for Obama, Con'd, because his plan gives YOU SPECIFICALLY a tax cut.

I've read the opposite, both directly on his website, and from outside analysts. Can you show me something other than your bare assertion that Hussein promises to reduce my overall taxes?

30022. concerned - 6/5/2008 2:24:57 PM

Here. Let me correct this erroneous sentence from thoughtful:

And if you wish to do some real research, go to bea.gov and look at historical gdp growth and you'll see that many recessions have started with are preceded by real gdp in positive growth territory.

30023. concerned - 6/5/2008 2:27:04 PM

30024. concerned - 6/5/2008 2:31:26 PM

Here's what thoughtful's link says about recent and current recessions:

The National Bureau's Business Cycle Dating Committee maintains a chronology of the U.S. business cycle. The chronology identifies the dates of peaks and troughs that frame economic recession or expansion. The period from a peak to a trough is a recession and the period from a trough to a peak is an expansion. According to the chronology, the most recent peak occurred in March 2001, ending a record-long expansion that began in 1991. The most recent trough occurred in November 2001, inaugurating an expansion.

We're not in a recession.

30025. concerned - 6/5/2008 2:32:10 PM

No recession here. Move along now, Lefty idiots.

30026. jexster - 6/5/2008 2:47:41 PM

"Would you rather, a) watch last night's McCain speech or b) be waterboarded?"

30027. jexster - 6/5/2008 2:53:46 PM

A crowd of adoring Obamessiah admirers.

30028. jexster - 6/5/2008 2:56:37 PM

Bush lied..hundreds of thousands died

What did John McSame not know and when did he not know it?


Bush Backs Away from Lies About Global Consensus on Iraq WMD

30029. concerned - 6/5/2008 3:02:29 PM

Bush lied..hundreds of thousands died

Hundreds of thousands of what.....? Mosquitoes?

If you're referring to people, you're a seditious liar, rejexst.

30030. concerned - 6/5/2008 3:05:01 PM

For that matter, the Obamessiah is on record as being a far worse and more prolific 'liar' than GWB is.

I previously posted a list in the Mote of nearly seventy major lies that Hussein has told.

Must be that those are lies that rejexst is fine with because it's his boy. He didn't refute a single one.

30031. concerned - 6/5/2008 3:13:51 PM

rejexst lied - hundreds of thousands of people didn't die.

30032. concerned - 6/5/2008 3:17:44 PM

If the economy is in the early stage of a recession it's in the early stage of recession

Did jexster pull a crystal ball out of his ass, or is he telling us that even he thinks that a Hussein administration is an economic disaster in the making?

No competent economist is saying we're in a recession, but does that slow down a lying idiot like jexster? Of course not. My fear is that the Obamessiah is just as brazen a liar as rejexst.

30033. concerned - 6/5/2008 3:19:44 PM

rejexst -

thanks for telling us that you think the Obamessiah is a total incompetent economically.

That's how your posting about the economy reads, in case you haven't noticed.

30034. jexster - 6/5/2008 3:32:10 PM

Democratic National Convention 2008
Opening Ceremony




So how did the Mote's Third Grade GeoBee Champ and I do on the History Final Prof Wombat?


Can we go finally solve the WorldHistorical Jewish Question once Hussein is President now that AH has, at God's direction, rounded the Jews up in Israel?

Ade, mein liebes Schätzelein,
Ade, ade, ade,
Es muß, es muß geschieden sein
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!

Visier und Ziel sind eingestellt
Ade, ade, ade,
Auf Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt,
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!

Wir ruhen und wir rasten nicht
Ade, ade, ade,
Bis daß die Satansbrut zerbricht,
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!

Reich mir die Hand zum Scheidegruß
Ade, ade, ade,
Und deinen Mund zum Abschiedskuß
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria!
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!ia!

30035. jexster - 6/5/2008 3:37:34 PM

Hussein, once he has sworn the Oath on the Holy Qu'ran, will agree to surrender the entire US armed occupation force in Iraq, military and civilian.


They will be packed off to Orduf work camp, Buchenwald on the Tigris.

Years from now President Hussein's great nephew will liberate them

30036. jexster - 6/5/2008 3:43:41 PM

As I have said before, when I was growing up, extreme right wing imbeciles like concerned were too embarrassed to appear in public discourse.

They attended Klan rallies and John Birch Society gatherings. They circulated comic books about the Great Commie Conspiracy in the US

THey didn't even vote


The cockroaches are going back to their holes, Allah willing

PS....the guy on horseback banging the drum midway thru Deutschland Uber Alles ...my great uncle

30037. jexster - 6/5/2008 3:47:04 PM

Others like John McBush's "spiritual advisers" Pastors Hagee and Parsely attended snake chunking meetings

30038. jexster - 6/5/2008 3:47:37 PM

But none of them voted nor appeared in public media

30039. arkymalarky - 6/5/2008 4:07:10 PM

From the subtitle on the page, "Provide Middle Class Americans Tax Relief"

30040. arkymalarky - 6/5/2008 4:08:16 PM

You ought to read his whole economic plan, Con'd. You'd be sold.

30041. jexster - 6/5/2008 4:08:55 PM

UR wasting UR time Arky.

John Birch cockroach who thinks he's going to be a real countryclub Bush republican before he dies if only the Dems stop stealing his gold and giving it to welfare queens

30042. jexster - 6/5/2008 4:09:40 PM

Too stupid to form political views in a civilized nation

30043. arkymalarky - 6/5/2008 4:09:42 PM

Hmmm. Jack Cafferty isn't so sure, Mags. Her Saturday plans don't sound very promising.

30044. jexster - 6/5/2008 4:12:15 PM

BTW just to show you what a fucking TOOL TD is...Remember how he poo-poo'ed Robert's post about Bush Air Force bombers flying about the country with full bomb loads


The Secretary of the AF and the Chief of Staff..just fired for just that in "historic shakeup"

30045. jexster - 6/5/2008 4:12:57 PM

30043

Rachael Madow says she'll believe the bitch when she hears the words I CONCEDE

30046. jexster - 6/5/2008 4:29:45 PM

Attn Shoulder Pad Feminists grieving Hillary and their geldings.....

Candy Crowley asked The Greatest what would he tell a 45 yo Clinton supporter who was really pissed

The answer is worth looking for but if you're patient you will hear it many times I am sure

PLUS

Hillary just told CNN that she wasn't campaigning for VP..All talk from supporters not authorized..the decision belonged to Mandingo and Mandingo alone

30047. jexster - 6/5/2008 4:35:58 PM

Sinnead
Letterman
Mandinka

30048. concerned - 6/5/2008 4:37:55 PM

Rejexst lies virtually everytime he refers to me.

The Klan was was all Democrat, always.

I never made any reference to what rejexst posts about in 30044.

Rejxst's Alzheimer's and his congenital fabrication - a very tedious combination.

30049. jexster - 6/5/2008 4:42:16 PM

30050. jexster - 6/5/2008 4:54:06 PM

The Military Channel is running a 1/2 hour show on the development of aircraft ejection seats.

In every case, the pilot is careful to keep his arms in

John McDumbass, shot down on the very first mission he ever commanded, forgot


Leadership We Can Believe In?

30051. Wombat - 6/5/2008 5:43:22 PM

Jex:

Will you lay off McCain's military record? You sound as bad a "swift boater." McCain flew A-4 Skyhawks, which were notorious for their cramped cockpits, and very difficult to eject from without getting hurt.

30052. thoughtful - 6/5/2008 6:02:22 PM

conc'd you need to read to learn something instead of willfully ignoring the facts at hand. First:

"The committee places particular emphasis on two monthly measures of activity across the entire economy: (1) personal income less transfer payments, in real terms and (2) employment. In addition, we refer to two indicators with coverage primarily of manufacturing and goods: (3) industrial production and (4) the volume of sales of the manufacturing and wholesale-retail sectors adjusted for price changes. We also look at monthly estimates of real GDP such as those prepared by Macroeconomic Advisers (see http://www.macroadvisers.com). Although these indicators are the most important measures considered by the NBER in developing its business cycle chronology, there is no fixed rule about which other measures contribute information to the process."

and then

"The committee’s approach to determining the dates of turning points is retrospective. We wait until sufficient data are available to avoid the need for major revisions. In particular, in determining the date of a peak in activity, and thus the onset of recession, we wait until we are confident that, even in the event that activity begins to rise again immediately, it has declined enough to meet the criterion of depth. As a result, we tend to wait to identify a peak until many months after it actually occurs."

That means that a recession won't be officially declared until much later. However, that does NOT mean we aren't in recession. And rather than making corrections to my data, you need to look AT the data to see that in fact the NBER has identified several recessions as beginning with positive real GDP growth.

30053. concerned - 6/5/2008 6:02:40 PM

Re. 30051 -

Don't hold your breath waiting for rejexst to stop calumniating McCain's military record.

It's a clear point of inferiority for the Obamessiah, and Jexster feels obligated to do everything he can to neutralize the issue or even turn it around, if possible, for his boy.

30054. thoughtful - 6/5/2008 6:03:55 PM

Just to spell it out precisely, there's this:

Q: The financial press often states the definition of a recession as two consecutive quarters of decline in real GDP. How does that relate to the NBER's recession dating procedure?

A: Most of the recessions identified by our procedures do consist of two or more quarters of declining real GDP, but not all of them. Our procedure differs from the two-quarter rule in a number of ways. First, we consider the depth as well as the duration of the decline in economic activity. Recall that our definition includes the phrase, "a significant decline in economic activity." Second, we use a broader array of indicators than just real GDP. One reason for this is that the GDP data are subject to considerable revision. Third, we use monthly indicators to arrive at a monthly chronology.

So stop pumping up hot air just because you don't want to have a recession wrapping up georgie-boy's stellar performance....and encourage the discouraged electorate to vote for the dems.

30055. concerned - 6/5/2008 6:08:19 PM

'thoughtful' -

No, you need to stop ignoring facts learn that the NBER has stated that they usually subscribe to the two consecutive quarters of shrinking GDP to define a recession. That means that they are staking their reputation on the fact that we are not currently in a recession.

And, 'thoughtful', you really need to stop making your economic crystal balls from playdoh you fished out of your toilet. Crystal balls are for wackos, IAC.

30056. concerned - 6/5/2008 6:17:31 PM

No shrinking GDP = no recession.

I'm not buying 'thoughtful's' LW crystal ball bullshit. There's no shrinking GDP now - that may be still the case a year or more from now which makes any preemptive assertions now that we are already in a recession blatantly idiotic. And for those who won't admit this very likely eventuality, they really need to be politically deprogrammed.

30057. Wombat - 6/5/2008 6:30:19 PM

Just so you know, Concerned, I am thinking of renaming you "Demented" for the rest of the election season, since that seems to reflect the content of many of your posts.

For example, Thoughtful's quote specifically says that NBER criteria "differs from the two-quarter rule in a number of ways," and then proceeds to list how they differ. Only someone who is demented could interpret Thoughtful's piece the way you do.

Have a nice day.

30058. concerned - 6/5/2008 6:44:57 PM

Dementedbat -

Most of the recessions identified by our procedures do consist of two or more quarters of declining real GDP, but not all of them.

From 'thoughtful''s quote. Read bolded text over and over until you understand what the fuck it means.

30059. arkymalarky - 6/5/2008 6:46:26 PM

Call him what you will, but to me he'll always be Con'd.

30060. jexster - 6/5/2008 6:48:20 PM

He is a mess

30061. concerned - 6/5/2008 6:54:19 PM

Lefties just hate to be told the truth about the economy. Wipes away a lot of the BDS'ers thin veneer of rationality.

Also, to flatly assert that we are already in a recession is a lie. I just mentioned to a politically neutral fellow employee that there haven't been any periods of GDP shrinkage recently, hence no recession so far, and he seemed surprised by that since empty headed LW morons are so invested in pounding their baseless lies about our economic state into peoples' heads.

30062. jexster - 6/5/2008 7:34:10 PM

Cook political Report...

Bloodbath Alert: GOP Losing Its Grip On Multiple House Seats

Hard times for the Ole Pigpile

30063. jexster - 6/5/2008 7:51:42 PM

Why I tried to bring thoughtful in on this....

The Financial Times

The fact that we are yet to see a negative number for GDP means that it is possible we are not yet in a recession,” says Jeffrey Frankel, a professor of economics at Harvard and a member of the committee that officially determines recessions.

“But there are so many negative indicators I think the chances are very high that it will turn out there is a recession in 2008, and the chances are reasonable that it will turn out to have started in the first quarter.”



There are a number of different ways of thinking about a recession. A commonly used layman’s definition is two successive quarters of negative growth.

On this standard, the US is not in recession ...

Moreover, GDP is not the only measure of activity and it is often heavily revised. This is why the official business cycle dating committee looks at a broader set of indicators to judge whether an economy is in recession or not.

...

In a formal sense the jury is still out, and no decision will be made for months. Professor Frankel says that if the economy turned positive now, without any sustained period of negative GDP growth, it would be hard to call a recession.

But the economic downturn is still unfolding and the full impact of the credit squeeze is only now being felt by businesses and households. The data so far, Prof Frankel says, are quite consistent with a recession outcome.

To start with, politicians have changed the GDP measure so often that the old test is meaningless as it compares apples to oranges to pears and overstates economic activity


What matters is that most Americans who have to live in with real world credit, food and fuel prices in really disappeared job opportunities, overwhelmingly accept that we are in a recession now.

30064. jexster - 6/5/2008 7:53:15 PM

As I said, the Official Recession Board doesn't make such determinations until after the recession has past unless it goes on for many months

30065. jexster - 6/5/2008 8:01:23 PM

Golf We Can Believe In

After McCain's Tuesday night prebuttal speech trainwreck I was afraid he might keep going with no discernible message and just a lot of imagery and themes stressing age, being part of yesterday and generally being completely out of touch. But boy was I wrong. Here's a screen capture of the front page of McCain's website as of 3:55 PM this afternoon with the four tabs across the top apparently signaling McCain's top four agenda items ...


Late Update: Many of you have noted, as the Hotline Blog shows here, that McCain's new logo appears to be literally ripped off from Obama's logo -- much as his new slogan is. I think this is actually part of McCain's new plan to demonstrate leadership and demonize Obama by appropriating all his campaign iconography and slogans.

--Josh Marshall

30066. jexster - 6/5/2008 8:09:02 PM

Tom DeLay: Unless O'Bama Proves Me Wrong He's a Marxist

Can't be Marxist and Muzzie.

Can't be a Marxist and raise all that money

Could be a fascist and do it.

30067. jexster - 6/5/2008 8:11:32 PM

ATTN GIRDLE GIRLZ


Gloria Steinham Endorses Obama

30068. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/5/2008 8:15:10 PM

John McFlipFlop . . .

30069. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/5/2008 8:24:56 PM

30070. jexster - 6/5/2008 8:37:06 PM

Sweet!

VICTORY PARTY SF - June 10th

Contributions in Lieu of Attendance!

30071. jexster - 6/5/2008 8:38:49 PM

Luke Klipp co-host!!!

beat still my heart

30072. jexster - 6/5/2008 8:42:32 PM

Masters in Public Policy from Berkeley
Professional singer
On the rebound baby!

Imagine the stupid scumsucker who dumped my poor Lukie!

30073. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/6/2008 1:34:20 AM

30074. alistairconnor - 6/6/2008 3:32:21 AM

Come senators, congressmen, please heed the call. Don't stand in the doorway, don't block up the hall...
Come mothers and fathers throughout the land, and don't criticise what you can't understand. Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command. Your old road is rapidly agin'.


He already had Bruce Springsteen. What about the really big endorsement? When will Lou Reed come out for Obama?

30075. alistairconnor - 6/6/2008 7:39:54 AM

78% of Voters Would Vote For Black Candidate; but Only 60% of Their Friends Would

I love this stuff. Give them time to think about it. And talk to their friends.

30076. arkymalarky - 6/6/2008 7:57:02 AM

I've seen that. Of the hundreds of people I know, and the dozens I know pretty well here, I know some people who wouldn't. Some use the cover of acting like they really believe he's a Muslim and some don't bother to use cover. But the possibility that someone would, yet would, among all their friends, know people who wouldn't doesn't seem like a stretch to me.

But I've personally gotten several people who didn't support him at first to vote for him in the primary. AR still went overwhelmingly for Hillary, which is not surprising, but a lot of people here act like they believe the Muslim crap, even "college educated" people, and they use it as the reason they're not voting for him--it's still PC to be prejudiced against Muslims.

30077. arkymalarky - 6/6/2008 7:58:45 AM

And the last line was meant to be sarcastic.

30078. arkymalarky - 6/6/2008 8:16:38 AM

Joan Walsh is bugging the hell out of me. Hillary Clinton would have been a strong candidate in many ways, and stronger than Obama in some ways, but she isn't and has never been "more electable." He has a problem in states she won, but I think he has a better chance overall of winning than she did. The Lanny Davis wing of her supporters needs to quit sabotaging him, and her, for that matter, with their thinly veiled, oh-so-concerned (their expressions on tv are always "worried") efforts at impacting where the race goes from here. Come out and say what you want, or shut up. That's why I just LOVE Stephanie Tubbs-Jones.

And no, I didn't wake up on the wrong side of the bed. Just too early. Second day in a row.

30079. thoughtful - 6/6/2008 8:42:25 AM

Arky how do those muslim-believers square the fact that he's had this 20 year relationship with rev. wright?

30080. arkymalarky - 6/6/2008 8:49:23 AM

I haven't been successful at getting anyone to explain it to me yet. Of course, with my students I try not to do much but separate fact from fiction. With adults, it's hopeless. They won't debate it. In their minds they just know what they know and I'm the one who's deluded.

30081. thoughtful - 6/6/2008 8:55:19 AM

Con'd, it's amazing how you can make an argument out of a point of fact. Do you also spend time arguing if the moon is made of green cheese?

You just don't want to admit that the economy is as soft as it is. Well get this one. Today's unemployment rate jumped. The employment numbers fell again. There has never been a post-war period where employment fell 4 months in a row without a recession. Employment has now fallen for 5 months straight. If you read what the nber had to say and actually understood it, you'd know that they look at more than just the gdp.

And here's some more data for you.
Since WWII there have been 10 recessions of which GDP growth was positive in the peak quarter in 6 of them, negative in 3 and essentially flat in one. In fact at the beginning of the Reagan recession in 81, gdp grew nearly 5%.

If you look at the w's first recession you'd see it consisted of 4 quarters in total of which two quarters were negative and 2 quarters were positive and none of which were consecutive. Growth in the 2 positive quarters was stronger than growth has been in the last 2 quarters.

So all your bloviating means nothing.

No matter what you say, the fact is the economy is very soft, jobs are shrinking, and prices are rising. Foreclosures are up, bankruptcies are up and people are poorer and pocket books are getting squeezed. It is a lousy economic environment and one that will have a meaningful impact on voters in november.

30082. iiibbb - 6/6/2008 9:02:21 AM

Message # 30079

That's because they don't think Wright is Christian either... they'll call it "Black Separatist Religion" or some such and lump him in with Louis Farrakhan.

30083. iiibbb - 6/6/2008 9:05:12 AM

It doesn't have to make sense.

30084. thoughtful - 6/6/2008 9:06:06 AM

I was watching the daily show last night...which is a rerun from the night before and he showed film clips of mccain and he looks very old, weak, tired and in danger of losing it. Which is really disappointing since he's actually been able to take it easy over the last few months while the dem side show raged on. His handlers better take good care of him if they want to keep him up to the task...5 mos til Nov.

30085. arkymalarky - 6/6/2008 9:11:52 AM

True. Which is also idiotic, since the denomination is almost entirely white. Wright himself preaches "black liberation" which has common themes across denominations, but it's not that out of line with a lot of preaching, black and white. Like I said a while back, I think they should yank all their tax exempt status. Religion has been far too political since Republicans grabbed it to funnel voters to them, but liberal Dems have been guilty of it as well.

30086. arkymalarky - 6/6/2008 9:12:15 AM

That was to 3i3b.

30087. arkymalarky - 6/6/2008 9:14:19 AM

I don't see how he's going to compete. I was reading a post in Dailykos about his speech Tuesday, which was widely panned, even by Fox. The post compared his use of the teleprompter to a "human water sprinkler." I thought I'd fall out, I laughed so hard at that image. I still crack up every time I think about it. That can't be good for a guy who's trying to be president.

30088. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:21:07 AM

Secret meeting at DiLiar's palatial mansion...sent press on wild goose chase


The Greatest Black man the world has ever seen

30089. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:22:46 AM

30075..some of my best friends are French

30090. Wombat - 6/6/2008 9:43:33 AM

Thoughtful:

"Demented" (Concerned for the election season) has never been one to let facts get in the way of his dogma.

30091. thoughtful - 6/6/2008 9:49:33 AM

You can see clips of the green screen speech here: http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/Speeches/fdf5f9ab-f743-43a8-aded-5be426db44c5.htm

what's with the fake grin he keeps throwing in the mix? He looks very phoney which is not good...his strength was alwasy being the straight shooting maverick.

OMG...i think i know what it is...did they botox his forehead? I swear that's what made kerry look so insincere and lost him the election was they botoxed him, he lost his facial expressions and became untrustworthy in appearance...I think they're doing the same thing to mccain!

30092. jexster - 6/6/2008 10:18:49 AM

They'd better do something. NO CLOSE UPS. Hillary found an excellent makeup team. Looking for work...

30093. alistairconnor - 6/6/2008 10:20:05 AM

This is Rasmussen, Missouri, 3 June compared to 5 May.

Who's yer daddy?

6/3   Total   Men Wom  GOP Dem Other 
McCain  42     47  39   88  13  34 
Obama   43     41  45    8  73  41 
 
5/6   Total   Men Wom  GOP Dem Other 
McCain  47     51  43   81  21  44 
Obama   41     41  42   14  69  34

30094. thoughtful - 6/6/2008 10:20:42 AM

Y, i thought she looked particularly nice in that last clip...better than she'd looked during the entire presidency.

30095. jexster - 6/6/2008 10:22:00 AM

Chimes of Freedom AC


Greatest negro in history!

30096. jexster - 6/6/2008 10:23:47 AM

He's going to run a REAL 50 state strategy. Bush tried in 2000 but came up short.

O'bama's organization and money plus Dean's 50 state capacity building efforts ---- this will be the real deal


He'll spend money in TX just to help beat Cornyn if not take the state and make the GOP defend

30097. arkymalarky - 6/6/2008 10:35:03 AM

I worry a little about it, but I know they'll be very careful about how they use their resources and time from state to state.

WRT appearance, Hillary looked best when she was most natural. I thought they overdid it with trying to project various images and tones with various makeup and jacket colors. If she had been consistent and seemed more herself she'd have been better off, imo. You could tell even by how she wore her lipstick--inside or outside her lipline and, of course, color and type--what kind of tone she was trying to project. And that canary yellow with black trim jacket was much. She reflected a more personable tone in the brown tweed one that Amy Poehler(sp) imitated on SNL. I am a person who never notices stuff like that (I'm a horrible student dress code enforcer at work), so if I noticed it, it had an impact. But for me, it wasn't a good one.

30098. arkymalarky - 6/6/2008 10:37:07 AM

IOW, for those techniques and image strategies to be effective, people don't need to be able to point them out. Especially not people like me.

30099. jexster - 6/6/2008 10:46:51 AM

O'Bama puts VA on the map

30100. jexster - 6/6/2008 10:47:41 AM

And Evan Bayh on PBS cited the most recent poll w/ O up 1 and declared that IN was in play for the first time since the 60's

30101. jexster - 6/6/2008 10:54:47 AM

30102. jexster - 6/6/2008 11:20:59 AM

Ich bin ein Beaner

Obama leads in battle for Latino vote
The latest polls show he has a surprising advantage over McCain and is favored by up to 62% of voters.

30103. jexster - 6/6/2008 11:53:37 AM

The sheriff is a ....

30104. Wombat - 6/6/2008 12:06:11 PM

You also need the clip from 48 Hours, when Eddie Murphy walks into a bar and proclaims that there is a new sheriff in town.

30105. concerned - 6/6/2008 3:55:46 PM

Re. 30090 -

Dementedbat -

Isn't it interesting that I'm the only one who has quoted facts regarding our economic performance.

The facts show that there is no recession.

And if you don't like it, fuck you for a poor loser, Dementedbat. Since you are namecalling, loser, I'm free to do the same.

And if a recession begins by the end of the year, don't forget to blame the current Democrat Congress. Things were going very well economically up until the beginning of 2007.

30106. Wombat - 6/6/2008 4:28:43 PM

Demented:

Maybe you should try reading this aloud, so that you can actually understand what it says.

NBERS notes that most (BUT NOT ALL) recessions do conform to the two-quarter decline in real GDP. Since that measurement is somewhat crude, NBERS goes further:

"Our procedure differs from the two-quarter rule in a number of ways. First, we consider the depth as well as the duration of the decline in economic activity. Recall that our definition includes the phrase, "a significant decline in economic activity." Second, we use a broader array of indicators than just real GDP. One reason for this is that the GDP data are subject to considerable revision. Third, we use monthly indicators to arrive at a monthly chronology."

You see, Demented, people who work with data--as you clearly do not--can recognize weaknesses in particular economic models, and seek to use additional data sources to refine and clarify them. Since your knowledge of economics--and the data involved--seems to begin and end with you cherry-picking something you see that you think makes your point, it is no shock that you tie yourself up into rhetorical and intellectual knots. But hey, you knew the capitals of all the states in the US when you were in 3rd grade, so you know better than anyone else.

I see that renaming you "Demented" has gotten under your skin. Since I want you to survive through the election without getting apoplexy, I am open to other alternative names that describe the content of most of your posts concerning Obama. Would "Unhinged" be less infuriating to you?

30107. Wombat - 6/6/2008 4:41:16 PM

Unhinged:

I know that your psyche requires that you impute your feelings and emotions to those who disagree with you, but a quick comparison of our posts would show any reader which one of us is the poor loser. And yes, Jexter is a poor winner. The difference is that he makes no pretext of not being one.

30108. concerned - 6/6/2008 5:10:44 PM

Re. 30106 -


And your name should be "Ignorant Liar", according to your stated 'rules'.


Why don't you stop trying to be a Word Nazi, Dementedbat? There's no verbal death camp you can put me in unless you get me banned from the Mote, so why try?


Did you already forget that I'm doing circuit design for both US Homeland Security and Israeli Defense?

If you don't think 'working with data' is required to make these things happen, then you are truly a moron, on top of everything else.

I notice that you're not saying that we're in a recession, so you agree with me, in fact.

So, spare me your idiot Left Wing tantrums, moron.

30109. concerned - 6/6/2008 5:12:04 PM

Re. 30107 -

You can't even read, Demented. Otherwise, your post is entirely self-referential, AFAIC.

30110. concerned - 6/6/2008 5:13:04 PM

Wombat, decoded:

WHAAAAAAAH! WHAH! WHAH! WHAAAAAAAH!

You obviously need a pacifier, so go suck on jexster, idiot.

30111. anomie - 6/6/2008 5:17:31 PM

So McCain is excited about going to Mars...to bring the country together. No problem with "big government" there. But he doesn't have the common human decency to get excited about providing health care to all Americans. At least not now. But one day, Repubs will all over univeral health care like it was their idea. Meanwhile, they'll attempt to water down anything that upsets the drug and insurance companies.

30112. concerned - 6/6/2008 5:21:36 PM

Voters blew Hilliarycare out of the water in the early '90's. Guess 'common decency' just isn't what it used to be, anywhere.

30113. concerned - 6/6/2008 5:23:19 PM

Here's Wombat 'working with data'. Did he get hisself one of them thar elite edjumications like '58 state' Hussein did?

30114. concerned - 6/6/2008 5:27:09 PM

Btw, all you Mote Lefties will be glad to know that we're gearing up to produce 200 of the Homeland Security PCB's that I designed, Gigabit ethernet, USB 2.0 and about four other types of data and video interfaces included. 1100 components including DSP + ARM SoC processor, DDR2 SDRAM, NOR FLASH, and so on and so forth.

Second pass, 100 percent perfect functionally.

Along with my three other design projects that I'm handling concurrently. And I am doing *all* the hardware design for each.

That's working with some data, thar. Bet none of you LW 'geniuses' can match that.

30115. anomie - 6/6/2008 5:27:29 PM

Arky, I didn't think GWB could compete with Gore, but oh the horror! So I would be wary of counting McCain out too soon.

I think Obama's biggest problem will be with the dirty politics of the Repub scumbag element surrounding McCain. There's no telling what these people are up to even now. The Muslim/Wright connection is the tip of the iceberg, I'm sure.

30116. concerned - 6/6/2008 5:34:19 PM

'Nother thing. This homeland security PCB I designed be gigabittin' & USB'n & video'n at 12G and 80 degrees Celsius, in a pretty fast ol' airframe with a name sorta like F-**.

30117. alistairConnor - 6/6/2008 5:35:01 PM

Btw, all you Mote Lefties will be glad to know that we're gearing up to produce 200 of the Homeland Security PCB's that I designed, Gigabit ethernet, USB 2.0 and about four other types of data and video interfaces included.

I'm currently reading a book called Little Brother, by Cory Doctorow.

Probably only people who've read the book will make the connection, and understand why it's amusing.

(Footnote : I googled Little Brother, by Cory Doctorow and the first link gave me :

Instant Order Update for MR ALISTAIR CONNOR. You purchased this item on May 13, 2008. View your Order History.

Again, it's sort of an inside joke.

30118. anomie - 6/6/2008 5:38:31 PM

I'm confused perhaps. Designing "hardware" is working with data? It sounds impressive, Concerned, and I'm sure it is. I just don't see how what you've described helps you analyze or understand "data".

30119. anomie - 6/6/2008 5:40:21 PM

AC, I'll bite. What's the connection?

30120. alistairConnor - 6/6/2008 5:51:26 PM

Well, I'd recommend the book. It's written for adolescents, but it's pretty readable. It's set in the near future, 2009 or 10, in San Francisco. Someone is serving Bush's third term. The 17 year old protagonist is a computer hacker, both for kicks and because he has a libertarian bent. For example, he has to defeat the DHS "gait recognition software" in order to skip classes, because computer surveillance is everywhere.

This dude creates a resistance movement by inventing an anonymous way to surf the internet using Microsoft XBoxes. This is important because the Department of Homeland Security spies on internet access, BART use, toll bridge access, and a thousand other things, using data mining techniques, and arrests and brutally interrogates people who have non-standard usage patterns, searching for terrorists.

Very didactic book. Buy it for young relatives.

30121. concerned - 6/6/2008 5:57:44 PM

Fun Fact: Did you know that the Homeland Security PCB I designed uses the world's first commodity SDRAM with copper metallization?

30122. concerned - 6/6/2008 5:59:17 PM

Any book that takes the idea of GWB's 'third term' as a serious premise was written by a whackjob.

30123. anomie - 6/6/2008 6:01:22 PM

Concerned, you must stop now. The ladies are getting misty-eyed and fainty. I'm sure it was the metallization that did it.

30124. anomie - 6/6/2008 6:02:01 PM

GWB 3rd term = McCain

30125. alistairConnor - 6/6/2008 6:12:21 PM

CNN buries this poll... but it's a beauty

In the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, the first conducted entirely after Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee, he leads his Republican counterpart 49 percent to 46 percent among registered voters -- a statistical tie, given the question's 3-point margin of error.

[...]When pollsters asked about a field of candidates that includes Nader and Barr, the margin between Obama and McCain was virtually unchanged, with the Illinois senator leading 47 percent to 43 percent. Nader pulls in 6 percent, and Barr 2.

I love it. I love it.

30126. concerned - 6/6/2008 6:59:28 PM

Re. 30124 -

Like I said. Whackjob.

30127. concerned - 6/6/2008 7:01:21 PM

The Obamessiah's lyin' campaign saying their contributors are '1.5 million people giving only what they can afford'.

'People' like, apparently:

Goldman Sachs $571,330

University of California $437,236

UBS AG $364,806

JPMorgan Chase & Co $362,207

Citigroup Inc $358,054

National Amusements Inc $320,750

Lehman Brothers $318,647

Google Inc $309,514

Harvard University $309,025

Sidley Austin LLP $294,245

Skadden, Arps et al $270,013

Time Warner $262,677

Morgan Stanley $259,876

Jones Day $250,725

Exelon Corp $236,211

University of Chicago $218,857

Wilmerhale LLP $218,680

Latham & Watkins $218,615

Microsoft Corp $209,242

Stanford University $195,262

30128. jexster - 6/6/2008 7:23:24 PM

Average contribution 90 bucks

from nearly 2 million people

That's why the GOP are pissing their pants

That's why McShame is going on the public dole this fall. Guess it is a crime in the GOP to have a job

30129. concerned - 6/6/2008 7:23:26 PM

From the Powerline blog:

June 6, 2008
Who's to Blame for High Gas Prices?

For several decades, the Democratic Party has pursued policies designed to drive up the cost of petroleum, and therefore gas at the pump. Remarkably, the Democrats don't seem to have taken much of a political hit from the current spike in gas prices. Probably that's because most people don't realize how different the two parties' energy policies have been.

Congressman Roy Blunt put together these data to highlight the differences between House Republicans and House Democrats on energy policy:

ANWR Exploration House Republicans: 91% Supported House Democrats: 86% Opposed
Coal-to-Liquid
House Republicans: 97% Supported
House Democrats: 78% Opposed

Oil Shale Exploration
House Republicans: 90% Supported
House Democrats: 86% Opposed

Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) Exploration
House Republicans: 81% Supported
House Democrats: 83% Opposed

Refinery Increased Capacity
House Republicans: 97% Supported
House Democrats: 96% Opposed

SUMMARY

91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of American-made oil and gas.

86% of House Democrats have historically voted against increasing the production of American-made oil and gas.

Vote Democrat - pay more for your energy.

30130. jexster - 6/6/2008 7:24:27 PM

And will vote against ANWR again

Just to embarrass The Old Fart

30131. jexster - 6/6/2008 7:27:24 PM

Dow Slides Nearly 400 points as Oil Rises $10.75/bbl
Largest increase ever


Next time Ole Georgie goes beggin in Saudia Arabia maybe he should bring his Old Fart so that the King can tell both of them to go fuck a camel

30132. jexster - 6/6/2008 7:28:03 PM

TD's going to get his recession about 10 years before he gets game

30133. jexster - 6/6/2008 7:31:45 PM

For the mortgage crisis and the oil speculators don't blame Bush

Blame that other Texas scumbag...the one that cut Robert's balls off


McShame's Economic Adviser

30134. jexster - 6/6/2008 7:34:29 PM

It won't be long before my prophecy will come to pass

Idiots like Concerned will be too ashamed to appear in public

30135. jexster - 6/6/2008 7:38:17 PM

Don't fret TD
So you don't have game..all you have is McBush

We're all Nwords under the skin

30136. jexster - 6/6/2008 7:46:30 PM

Democratic Party Returns Lobbyist and PAC Money

There's a new sheriff in town....

Flush the GOP

We're gonna beat a pack of old rented mules

30137. anomie - 6/6/2008 7:57:35 PM

Concerned, your gas price analysis excludes one thing: A link between those votes and the price of gas. A cause and effect. A follows from. No wonder you get confused about "data".

Try linking tax cuts, budget deficits, low interest rates, lack of business investment, and the decline of the dollar to the pump price. It's a much easier connection.

I also suspect oil speculators are getting in their last licks before the republicans lose the Whitehouse.

(I thought the refinery capacity was a bogus issue. Didn't the oil execs testify that refinery capacity was just fine?)

30138. jexster - 6/6/2008 8:02:27 PM

As angry mobs burn the American flag in Baghdad, Iraq prepares to reject US plan of occupation


Survey the GOP's wreckage

And take a good look at the old wreck they'd send us

30139. jexster - 6/6/2008 8:03:48 PM

Thoughtful


You give that idiot too much credit


That's not an analysis

There's not a goddamn shred of truth to it

30140. jexster - 6/6/2008 8:05:43 PM

These are the very same people who said we should invade Iraq to lower the price of oil

Then under 40 a barrel

Liars, incompetents and crooks

The American people are going to throw those bastards out

Finish the work begun in 2006

30141. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/6/2008 8:12:31 PM

Mission Accomplished, Sir!

30142. jexster - 6/6/2008 8:14:24 PM

I LOVE this


University of Chicago $218,857



Stanford University $195,262



All those professors and students!

30143. jexster - 6/6/2008 8:15:34 PM

Meanwhile Phil Gramm and Charles Black do their KSt Krony Kapitalist deals off the back of the DoubleTalk Express

30144. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:22:47 PM

An economist on PBS Newshour commenting on the latest McBush economic disaster said that while he thought we were in a recession and some economists might debate the matter that "for Americans there is no doubt"


None at all

30145. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:24:51 PM

Sorry Thoughtful

I meant anomie


The sheriff is a .....and I got carried away

30146. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:25:14 PM

I love the smell of napalm in the evening

30147. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:34:22 PM

Of course Phil Gramm and his merry band of GOP K Street Krony Kapitalist erl speculators laughing their ways to UBS Warburg tonight

Ole Mago's chucklin too....laid a big position at $50/bbl!!!

30148. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:42:32 PM

Happy 4th of July

NEW YORK - Oil prices made their biggest single-day leap ever Friday, dragging the Dow Jones industrials down nearly 400 points and raising the once-unthinkable prospect of $150 oil and more record gas prices by the Fourth of July.


The meteoric rise of nearly $11 for the day piled atop an increase of almost $5.50 the day before, taking oil futures more than 13 percent higher in just two days, easily a record on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

30149. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:49:02 PM

Cash or Subprime Loan?

30150. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:50:39 PM

Bush Will Rely on Appeasement With Iran

30151. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:51:56 PM

AP - President Bush is considering new measures to help stimulate the battered economy, the White House said Friday as unemployment and oil prices soared and Wall Street sank

30152. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:53:29 PM

30153. jexster - 6/6/2008 9:57:12 PM

Helluva Hummer at DiFi's

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton sat in comfortable chairs, sipped water and spoke for an hour about the presidential campaign to come. Just the two of them, without aides. And they parted laughing.

30154. jexster - 6/6/2008 10:01:58 PM

Wealthy Americans Under Scrutiny in UBS Case


McCain adviser and former Republican senator Phil Gramm, left, is vice chairman of the investment bank part of UBS and has lobbied for UBS during the mortgage crisis.

30155. jexster - 6/6/2008 10:18:19 PM

Joe's Reckoning: Days of Wrath Coming for Mentum

30156. jexster - 6/6/2008 10:41:15 PM

America's Humiliation - The View from the UK


Oil Hits $139 as Job Figures Stun US

30157. jexster - 6/6/2008 10:45:43 PM

A fucking army of citizens ready to take their country back

In Money Race, Obama Has the Advantage


Sen. Barack Obama will head into the general election with the ability to raise significantly more money than his Republican opponent, an extremely rare position for a Democrat and one that could give him a huge advantage in mobilizing supporters, reaching voters and competing across the country

30158. concerned - 6/7/2008 1:47:01 AM

A fucking army of idiots ready to be taxed to hell by Lefties?

30159. concerned - 6/7/2008 1:54:27 AM

Tell the truth, rejexst. Hussein and the LW Congress is all about raising taxes and wasting money on faith based LW bullshit that they never think through.

All your talk about Bush and McCain being this and that doesn't mean shit because you excuse far worse in Democrats all the time. You have to, or you'd be a Republican, and that's the absolute truth.

30160. concerned - 6/7/2008 1:59:39 AM

Hussein buying into Wracist Wright's hate speech? Fine with rejexst. Hussein only has two years experience in US politics? Perfect with rejexst. Hussein doesn't have any worthwhile policies? Exactly what rejexst wants. Hussein wants to raise overall taxes by 20%? What does rejexst care? After all, rejexst is a government charity case - more for him, he thinks, if his boy wins. That's all rejexst cares about here, whatever benefits his lonely self. Fuck everybody else and their future generations, rejexst says.

30161. concerned - 6/7/2008 2:08:00 AM

jexster - admit it.

All your posting on the Mote is ultimately intended to get you personally more handouts from government agencies because of your 'special' status. You know you are damaging society with your bullshit, but you don't care.

30162. concerned - 6/7/2008 2:10:40 AM

Anyone who reads that LW philosophies have caused 150 million deaths since 1900 AD (the worst of any religion or philosophy in history by far) vs less than 2 million for all of Christianity since Christ's lifetime, and still maintains their LW, anti Christian position is, officially, an anti-human shithead.

30163. concerned - 6/7/2008 2:12:03 AM

Re. 30144 -

More lies about a nonexistent 'consensus', only this time about the nonexistent recession.

Lies - that's all rejexst has to offer.

30164. concerned - 6/7/2008 2:13:26 AM

The Idiot Sockpuppet Democrat Party.

30165. concerned - 6/7/2008 2:14:28 AM

Being a Democrat in 2008 means mouthing their sockpuppet lies.

30166. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/7/2008 8:45:38 AM

Connie's ready–turn him over!

30167. David Ehrenstein - 6/7/2008 9:18:51 AM

I can't wait. I want Lieberman's head on a stick NOW!!!!

30168. Wombat - 6/7/2008 10:11:29 AM

Being "concerned" in this election season means being a babbling, raving idiot. I shudder to think what he'll be like in October.

Could you break down your "LW" deaths by country or conflict and years of duration? Are you counting Nazi Germany as LW? I know you believe it to be so in your peculiar eschatology, but perhaps a bit of objective research crept in.

I am not necessarily disputing your figures, although I would suggest that our form of liberal democracy, even under Obama, is a far cry from the regimes that most observers who lack your degree of derangement would call "LW."

30169. jexster - 6/7/2008 10:30:49 AM

Don't you recognize Concerned current pile of crap?

I wouldn't have if one of the talking heads hadn't reminded me

That one is from Ole Bob Dole circa 1996:

"There have been millions more deaths from Democrat(sic) wars than Republican"

VSOP Bullshit - 12 years old

Haven't I always said that concerned was a below average American?

30170. jexster - 6/7/2008 10:32:55 AM

Haven't I always said that Concerned was below average?


For tens of millions of Americans struggling to pay bills, the jobs report added an official stamp of authority to a dispiriting reality they already know: A deteriorating labor market is eliminating paychecks just as they are needed to compensate for the soaring cost of food and fuel, and as the fall in house prices hacks away at household wealth and access to credit.

“It’s unambiguously ugly,” said Robert Barbera, chief economist at the research and trading firm ITG. “The average American already knows that gas prices are up a ton and it’s really hard to find a job. Sally and Sam on Main Street are already well aware of this, and that’s why sentiment surveys are lower than they were in each of the last two recessions.”


Gloom Spreads Like an Oil Slick, an Expensive Oil Slick - NyT


Ya think McShame would give him something new to talk about.

30171. arkymalarky - 6/7/2008 10:39:33 AM

Me too, David. I think the Senate ought to clear its calendar through January and toss him out.

And don't worry about Con'd, y'all. He's just adjusting to the idea that he's going to vote for Obama in Nov. to get that Middle Class tax cut--like Bill Clinton gave him--that Republicans have been promising since Reagan and have never delivered on, though they've managed trickle-down/piss-on tax cuts for the wealthy and add taxes to the middle class, no matter how badly the rest of us are hurting or how bad the economy is doing.

30172. jexster - 6/7/2008 10:44:09 AM

Kill Them! We Are Going to Wipe Them Out!

Presidential Bloodlust
The Movie-Made War World of George W. Bush

30173. jexster - 6/7/2008 10:52:03 AM

The BEST solution to Mentum is to have McSame pick him for a Unity Ticket


Be sure to vote in the weekly MSNBC Veepstakes!

30174. jexster - 6/7/2008 10:54:21 AM

Speaking of my "special circumstances"

Yesterday the City and County of San Francisco, Gavinator Lord Mayor, presented me with a Certificate of Honor for my "leadership role in Project Homeless Connect, a best-practices model replicated in over 150 cities..."

And for being and all round nice guy

30175. jexster - 6/7/2008 10:54:49 AM

This is what Obamanoids do

30176. jexster - 6/7/2008 11:00:25 AM

Hillary's on

Ready from June 7th!

30177. jexster - 6/7/2008 11:37:07 AM

Shoulda known
Waiting for Bill
She hasn't even left home
Already 1/2 hr late
I've waited for him for 4 hours before


May 20th San Francisco

30178. anomie - 6/7/2008 11:37:41 AM

Concerned at 30159

I've asked you before what government programs you would eliminate and you came up empty. Now you're railing about wastng money on "LW faith-based bullshit...". So I'll ask you again. What are you talking about? Do you even know?

30179. anomie - 6/7/2008 11:39:19 AM

Jex, congrats on your recognition!

30180. jexster - 6/7/2008 11:49:09 AM

Bush broke it

We fix it

America's Medicated Military
Soldiers turn to anti-depressants in record numbers

30181. jexster - 6/7/2008 12:31:09 PM

Donna Brazille's more than just a colored lady

She's a sharp colored lady


She's a Louisiana colored lady


Thinks Bill Clinton should be unleashed in an early attack on McBush

30182. iiibbb - 6/7/2008 12:43:35 PM

Abolish the electoral vote?

I would support a constitutional amendment... but the National popular vote interstate compact is wrong-headed. Why do an end-run around the process?

30183. jexster - 6/7/2008 12:59:48 PM

WHOA!


Best delivery I've ever seen from Hillary


Serious as a heart attack

She means business

30184. jexster - 6/7/2008 1:09:13 PM

FUCKING AWESOME!

The He-Man Hillary Haters' Club..now officially disbanded

30185. jexster - 6/7/2008 1:19:25 PM

If she'd given speeches like that from the very first....

30186. jexster - 6/7/2008 1:59:58 PM

I just sent that woman ten bucks

30187. jexster - 6/7/2008 2:09:46 PM

30188. jexster - 6/7/2008 2:19:39 PM

Obama's site encourages supporters to email Clinton with their thanks.

30189. arkymalarky - 6/7/2008 2:27:43 PM

Good for you, Jex!

She did a FANTASTIC job. I cried. Mags, you were right, and I'm so glad for all of us. What a great team the Democrats are creating for November. I'm just in awe, and the talking heads on MSNBC and CNN obviously were struck like lightning as well.

30190. jexster - 6/7/2008 2:33:13 PM

We interrupt this DemoFuckFest with an important announcement


George Bush Pants On Fire Award
John McShame Denies Voting Twice Against Katrina Investigation

30191. jexster - 6/7/2008 3:20:05 PM

30192. jexster - 6/7/2008 3:34:57 PM

First they laugh at you
Then they attack you
Then you win
Gandhi

30193. David Ehrenstein - 6/7/2008 5:13:35 PM

Latest FaBlog: FUCK THE ASSOCIATED PRESS!

30194. winstonsmith - 6/7/2008 5:40:55 PM

Hillary was great today. It made me feel so good after such a shitty contentious primary. I think the Dems are going to make it to the WH!

30195. jexster - 6/7/2008 6:15:04 PM

Something remarkable happened today at the Texas Democratic Party State Convention in Austin. According to a local blog, Press Progress…

A chant went up 'O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma' that soon became 'United We Stand'. Some Clinton supporters … joined in the chant, enthusiastically poking Obama signs into the air.

30196. jexster - 6/7/2008 6:31:42 PM

McShame's Katrina Lie

WaPo Fact Checker: McCain Forgets His Own Votes


Give the guy a break
He's old

30197. jexster - 6/7/2008 6:36:59 PM

Arcadia CA

30198. jexster - 6/7/2008 7:54:27 PM

20,000 Obamamaniacs Thank Hillary

From the podium of RNC 2008

30199. robertjayb - 6/7/2008 8:15:11 PM

(via bartcop)

30200. jexster - 6/7/2008 9:06:06 PM

So tell us Robert..did you start to cry before, during or after you joined hands with the other 11,999 TexiDems?

30201. jexster - 6/7/2008 9:10:51 PM

Bet you were so fuckt up you forgot to say THANK YOU HILLARY!

30202. jexster - 6/7/2008 9:12:14 PM

Show your support

Be a mensch

30203. jexster - 6/7/2008 9:14:19 PM

Show a little testicular fortitude

30204. jexster - 6/7/2008 9:16:46 PM

30205. jexster - 6/7/2008 9:43:24 PM

Occured to me whilst reading Barack's effusive praise - how Hillary inspired millions - that ole Robert here hasn't once told us how she inspired him.


What's up with that?



No matter..
We'll just have to do this without Robert and Geraldine Ferraro....

The Sheriff is a .....

30206. wonkers2 - 6/7/2008 10:16:50 PM

Here's my pick for Veep: The Jim Webb Story by Elizabeth Drew

30207. wonkers2 - 6/7/2008 10:20:11 PM

Editor
New York Times

The Times' June 6 editorial "The Truth About the War" was accurate but incomplete as was Scott McClellan's expose of the Bush-Cheney lies about Iraq. The real truth that the Times failed to mention is that, whether or not Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, our invasion was reckless and unnecessary.

The Times, the Washington Post and network television all failed to question Bush's abandonment of our policy articulated by Acheson and adopted by Truman that successfully contained a very real nuclear threat from the USSR and China for more than fifty years in favor of his reckless, ill-considered preemptive strike policy which was adopted with very little serious discussion. Main stream media made it easy for the White house to lead us into a needless and unfortunate war that has become a disaster for our country and the people of Iraq. Almost without exception the media failed to question, let alone oppose the Bush train as it headed over the cliff. NBC fired Phil Donohue because he spoke out against the war, and the Times gave front page coverage to Judith Miller's innacurate, to put it politely, reporting on Iraq. The "truth about Iraq" is that the war was needless even if the claims of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had been true because whatever weapons it had were contained and not likely to be used against its neighbors let alone the United States.

We are fortunate that a change in the White House and the Congress is likely in November and that Carl Levin, who had the foresight and good judgment to vote against our needless and reckless invasion, will continue as Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee where he will be in a position to help us effectuate an orderly withdrawal.

W2

30208. wonkers2 - 6/7/2008 10:21:30 PM

Editor
Detroit Free Press

The truth about the war is not in Scott McClellan's expose of the Bush-Cheney lies about weapons of mass destruction nor their prevarications connecting Iraq with 1/11. The truth is that our reckless invasion of Iraq would not have been justified even if the Bush administration's lies had all been true. Our policy of containment initiated by Truman was successful in containing the very real threat from USSR through the administrations of eleven Democrat and Republican administrations. Containment served us well but was summarily abandoned by George W. Bush with little debate or discussion in favor of his foolhardy preemptive strike policy. The American public was ill served by Bush and by the mainstream media including the New York Times and the Washington Post which failed to question Bush. Week after week the NY Times gave front page coverage to lies about Iraq's weapons and intentions to use them when it should have been pointing out that, regardless of the truth about Iraq's weapons, an invasion was not necessary to contain them as we had done with USSR and China. As on many previous occasions print and television media conspired with the White House in a mistaken and unnecessary use of military power.

Carl Levin deserves great credit for being one of the few Senators and Representatives to forsee the folly of invading Iraq and vote against authorizing it.

W2

30209. dandillon - 6/7/2008 11:09:08 PM

Has anyone ever heard of Kathleen Sebelius?

30210. wonkers2 - 6/8/2008 7:02:24 AM

She's a winner, but I think Obama needs a running mate who is a bit older and more experienced. Kathleen Sibelius

30211. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/8/2008 10:18:15 AM

Give W2 a kiss for me!

This Bill Moyers' keynote is inspiring, don't pass it up . . .

30212. jexster - 6/8/2008 10:55:21 AM

Webb is great. He the Manly Man of Virginia. Great choice and campaigning for it big time

On a book tour (7th one), on the first general election appearance in Southwest VA, on Russert yesterday explaining us Scot-Irish manly men to the effete girlie people, on Face the Nation this morning.

If he's not going to be the VP choice, he's definitely being groomed for a prime surrogate role

30213. jexster - 6/8/2008 11:14:02 AM

Webb was given little chance against Allen, who despite his limited intellect was considered a serious contender for the Republican presidential campaign in 2008.

Again?

The dumbest president in US history followed by one of the dumbest in USNA history?

Seems well qualified for GOP nomination

30214. jexster - 6/8/2008 11:33:41 AM

Temper Temper

The Politico takes a look at McSame's unbalanced psyche and how O has already begun to fuck with his reality.

30215. arkymalarky - 6/8/2008 12:04:28 PM

Hey Dan! How's it going? How's the fam?

I really like Sibelius. People say that if Obama picks a woman who's not Hillary Clinton it will be a big problem, but I don't know.

I also like Webb, but Rachel Maddow said he has a bad past with women that he's apologized for but will still be a problem for him, in her opinion. I don't know the deal, so I don't know, but he's been my first pick to offset some of Obama's weaknesses.

30216. jexster - 6/8/2008 1:25:42 PM

Thousands of Obamanoids high on pitchers of KoolAid take time to say thank you to Hillary

A Luv Sampler

Make mine strawberry

30217. jexster - 6/8/2008 1:38:49 PM

One Historic Night, Two Americas



by: Frank Rich, The New York Times


When Barack Obama achieved his historic victory on Tuesday night, the battle was joined between two Americas. Not John Edwards's two Americas, divided between rich and poor. Not the Americas split by race, gender, party or ideology. What looms instead is an epic showdown between two wildly different visions of the country, from the ground up.

30218. jexster - 6/8/2008 1:41:36 PM

As we say in the 'hood


Word Robert - The Greatest

30219. jexster - 6/8/2008 1:48:59 PM

The selling point of Mr. Obama’s vision of change is not doctrinaire liberalism or Bush-bashing but an inclusiveness that he believes can start to relieve Washington’s gridlock much as it animated his campaign. Some of that inclusiveness is racial, ethnic and generational, in the casual, what’s-the-big-deal manner of post-boomer Americans already swimming in our country’s rapidly expanding demographic pool. Some of it is post-partisan: he acknowledges that Republicans, Ronald Reagan included, can have ideas.

Opponents who dismiss this as wussy naïveté do so at their own risk. They at once call attention to the expiring shelf life of their own Clinton-Bush-vintage panaceas and lull themselves into underestimating Mr. Obama’s political killer instincts.

30220. jexster - 6/8/2008 1:49:26 PM

Proceed at your own risk
all ye who enter here

30221. jexster - 6/8/2008 3:14:37 PM

The Yeller Kumbaya of Tejas




As Robert cries like a bitch


Texas Democrats stand behind Obama
Presumptive presidential nominee seals caucus victory - (HTown Chron)

30222. jexster - 6/8/2008 3:16:26 PM

30223. jexster - 6/8/2008 3:22:51 PM

Robert still in Phil Gramm's pine tree?


Come out, come out wherever you are!

In other convention business, Texas Democratic Party chairman Boyd Richie was re-elected to his post. He fended off a challenge from Roy LaVerne Brooks, the party's vice chairman, and David Van Os, a former Democratic candidate for attorney general. Richie said he is helping to lead the state party back to power.

"We have found our voice. Our confidence is back," Richie said.

Keep on building the party until we're hunting Democrats with dogs

30224. wonkers2 - 6/8/2008 3:27:29 PM

Great Moyers video. Tnx. Have you watched "War Made Easy?"

30225. jexster - 6/8/2008 3:32:46 PM

Bill Moyers

The last Tejas male with a pair of balls?

Come out come out wherever you are

Why the fuck not









PS - Mighty white of you Wonk!

30226. jexster - 6/8/2008 3:38:15 PM

Thank God Jex craps where Wonkers eats

30227. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/8/2008 4:12:58 PM

Have you watched "War Made Easy?"

No, but I'm eager to see it. It's not been around here yet.

Besides getting a good guy award, jexster should get some other prizes . . .

30228. wonkers2 - 6/8/2008 4:36:06 PM

I have a long list!

30229. Max Macks - 6/8/2008 6:22:15 PM

that's a great medal , WW

30230. magoseph - 6/8/2008 6:24:23 PM

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., goes for a bike ride in Chicago, Sunday, June 8, 2008.(AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

30231. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/8/2008 9:26:48 PM

It was awarded to Jexster's hero, Max.

30232. jexster - 6/8/2008 9:35:23 PM

30227 I'll take that as a compliment WizzerWonk
Mighty white of you both


Dana Milbank Covers The End - The Canonization of St. Hillaire

30233. winstonsmith - 6/9/2008 12:32:24 AM

I saw this on HuffPo:

Arch-conservative Bay Buchanan suggested that it may not matter what McCain does. Writing in Human Events on June 4, she declared:

In reality there is only one candidate. Barack Obama. In November he will win or he will lose. John McCain is relevant only in so far as he is not Barack Obama. The Senator from Arizona is incapable of energizing his party, brings no new people to the polls, and has a personality that is best kept under wraps.

30234. wonkers2 - 6/9/2008 9:49:59 AM

A rare occasion when I agree with Mrs. or Mr. Buchanan.

30235. robertjayb - 6/9/2008 9:51:33 AM

Ohmigod! He rides a bicycle!

Truly a man for the ages...

President for Life, eh, jexster?

30236. wonkers2 - 6/9/2008 9:55:20 AM

Time to get on board the Obama express, Robert!

30237. iiibbb - 6/9/2008 10:33:30 AM

His bike is not properly adjusted.

30238. jexster - 6/9/2008 10:34:54 AM

Where Gas Prices Bite Hardest
Graphic

30239. arkymalarky - 6/9/2008 10:46:22 AM

I think more Republicans and independents will vote for Obama than people expect. Things are too hard right now, McCain doesn't have the support of his base, and people are afraid of continuing in the direction we're going. If we're more afraid of a guy's name, race, or imagined bogeymen like Muslims and whack-job preachers, than we are of what is happening right now, then we haven't fallen far enough.

30240. jexster - 6/9/2008 10:56:52 AM

Obama speaks to staff at Hussein World Headquarters

30241. anomie - 6/9/2008 11:25:07 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing a battle of whack-job preacher quotations. I think the right would far outnumber the left.

30242. jexster - 6/9/2008 11:25:26 AM

Kevin Phillips did a cover article in Harpers a month or two ago in which he delivered a damning indictment of the accuracy of USG economic data

Less extensive,to the same effect in Newseek

30243. iiibbb - 6/9/2008 11:27:37 AM

Message # 30239

I'm not willing to make a prediction. This is a weird year and it's hard to get information. I wonder how many who were serious about Hillary really will go over to McCain. It's nuts, but I believe there are people who are that nuts.

Right wingers are whipping themselves into a froth about Obama both being a secret Muslim extremist but also being a Marxist... I think those two things are pretty close to mutually exclusive, but it wouldn't surprise me.


Basically there are a lot of people out there making their decisions based on emotion and prejudice. I just wonder how motivated they're going to be.

30244. jexster - 6/9/2008 11:31:40 AM

McCain's got a slogan problem

"Change we can't afford"

Trying to play on O'Bama's home court is a sure loser

30245. jexster - 6/9/2008 11:32:50 AM

Nice that in the republican leaning Rasmussen daily track, O'bama's been holding a 6-7 pt lead lately

30246. jexster - 6/9/2008 11:38:51 AM

Don't let em McBushit You

McSame's a NeoCon

30247. arkymalarky - 6/9/2008 11:55:01 AM

Racism is the elephant in the living room. Sexism was with Hillary, but over half the voters are women.

I loved the blogger Hunter's response to DeLay's idiocy about Marxism in DailyKos. Basically, asserting what he believes about DeLay, "unless I'm proven wrong."

The "Taylor Marsh is CalGal" theory is blown.

30248. arkymalarky - 6/9/2008 12:01:40 PM

On Hillary as Veep, I was opposed to it before her speech. Now I see her as one of very short list of good choices. I don't think she'll bring in prejudiced Democrats--even those "soft bigots" who have themselves convinced they oppose him because he's Muslim or whatever non-issues or non-character based reasons they've created--but because she'd make a great balanced choice, and to me the weakest part of her campaign was her team, and they won't be there. I also think they brought out the worst in her, and she didn't take charge of them and control her own image and message. She proved in her speech that she's capable of doing that.

My main concern about her as vp is, 1) Bill (a huge issue, imo), and 2) combining the power of racial and gender prejudice, though I know it overlaps in people. An important yet overlooked exit poll stat I noticed was a fairly high percentage of people who voted for Hillary in the later states that she won who said they would not vote for her in November. I can't remember the number, bur I remember being stunned at how high it was.

30249. jexster - 6/9/2008 12:03:53 PM

Concerned and the Sugar Land cockroach have warned you Arky

30250. jexster - 6/9/2008 12:04:42 PM

Hill can't pass the Bill test

30251. jexster - 6/9/2008 12:05:26 PM

Racism is the elephant in the living room.

Speaking of which, anyone seen Robert?

30252. arkymalarky - 6/9/2008 12:17:25 PM

It would be worth seeing how much Bill can choke down his anger and ego to encourage Hillary onto the ticket. Chuck Todd (sigh!) keeps saying Obama needs to meet with Bill, but I don't see it happening, because of Bill. If that meeting takes place, it'll be a big deal, whether Hillary gets on the ticket or not.

30253. wonkers2 - 6/9/2008 12:19:59 PM

What Surviving Bush Loyalists In the White House Would Like to Say Privately to Scott McClellan
deadline poet
By Calvin Trillin

This article appeared in the June 23, 2008 edition of The Nation.
June 4, 2008

We think you know the trouble you've begot, Scott.
So don't expect from us a thanks-a-lot, Scott.
If you were here, we'd give you such a swat, Scott.
You knew that loyalty is all we've got, Scott.
(It's obvious that Camelot it's not, Scott.
The chief's as popular as, say, Pol Pot, Scott.)
And yet you chose this time to send a shot, Scott,
Toward him, who's paid you since you were a tot, Scott,
Confirming that our neocon-ish plot, Scott,
Hyped weapons just 'cause we were hot to trot, Scott.
And Condi thinks you're such a little snot, Scott.
Your book has got her knickers in a knot, Scott.
That "mushroom cloud" was something folks forgot, Scott,
Until your talk of propaganda's spot, Scott,
In launching what's become our biggest blot, Scott.
You're hoping that this book will buy a yacht, Scott?
Well, may you sail it down to hell and rot, Scott.
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30254. wonkers2 - 6/9/2008 12:21:31 PM

Obama could help himself by picking Chuck Hagel or Jim Webb for his VP.

30255. jexster - 6/9/2008 12:56:01 PM

McShame Lied Again: Caught on Tape - Again


Someone should tell him what century this is

30256. jexster - 6/9/2008 12:57:19 PM

Bill cannot pass VP vetting

Dunno why DiLiar keeps pushing her. She should know that

30257. jexster - 6/9/2008 12:58:57 PM

Hagel's out because he is a conservative republican

I doubt Webb's going to get it because of his enlightened views on women in the military.

30258. robertjayb - 6/9/2008 1:38:01 PM

Lord a'mercy! O is channeling Huey Long...

30259. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/9/2008 2:01:30 PM

I'm with wonk . . . as usual. Hagel isn't an ideologue and his brother, best friend and fellow vet is a staunch Liberal. I hope he picks Hagel!

30260. jexster - 6/9/2008 2:22:39 PM

Fucking GREAT speech eh Robert!

Remarks of Senator Barack Obama
Change That Works for You
Monday, June 9th, 2008
Raleigh, North Carolina
As prepared for delivery

30261. jexster - 6/9/2008 2:25:52 PM

I wouldn't mind either Hagel or Webb. Webb has a good shot I doubt very much that Hagel is on the short list


But whatever he decides

For Barack is GOD and we are not werthy

30262. jexster - 6/9/2008 2:28:36 PM

O'Bama to Partner with Elizabeth Edwards on Health Care

30263. jexster - 6/9/2008 2:31:28 PM

And here I thought ole Robert had partnered with Geraldine Ferraro...out for a little grief R&R ...coon hunting


NRSC Chair: If we lose 8 Senate Seats we win

Here's to VICTORY!

30264. jexster - 6/9/2008 3:08:57 PM

O's opening a lead at Gallup too

30265. jexster - 6/9/2008 3:43:20 PM

Team Hillary Negotiating Futures With O! Camp

30266. iiibbb - 6/9/2008 7:09:00 PM

No offense to Hillary, but I think Obama can do better than her for VP.

But given on how well his team works strategy, I'm pretty sure whoever he picks will be to his best advantage. The long standing saying is that you don't win an election from your VP choice, but you certainly can lose one.

30267. Max Macks - 6/9/2008 7:27:36 PM

I would think being a Senior Senator from NY
would be better for Hillary than to be VP

I can't imagine Obana picking her

I too would like to see Jim Webb
or Richardson

Do you think Hagel would accept , I dont
he migh be in Obama;s cabinet

ie. if hd gets elected

and polls out re. Obama vs. McCain?

30268. jexster - 6/9/2008 7:33:36 PM

Up 6-7 Max

30269. jexster - 6/9/2008 9:36:44 PM

Notable, quotable

But when it comes to the economy, John McCain and I have a fundamentally different vision of where to take the country. Because for all his talk of independence, the centerpiece of his economic plan amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies.
Barack Hussein Obama 6/9/08

30270. robertjayb - 6/9/2008 9:45:40 PM

Feds must screen out illegal aliens...

WASHINGTON — President Bush has signed an executive order requiring contractors and others who do business with the federal government to make sure their employees can legally work in the U.S.

Bush signed the order Friday and the White House announced it Monday.

The federal government has had some embarrassing moments when illegal workers have been discovered to be working for contractors they've hired.

After seven and a half years...Heckuvajob, bushie.

30271. jexster - 6/9/2008 9:53:02 PM

Would someone please tell McBush what century it is?

30272. jexster - 6/9/2008 10:04:15 PM

O!pening a Can of Missouri Whup Ass?

"He'll kill McCain here"

30273. iiibbb - 6/9/2008 11:30:44 PM

No offense to Hillary, but I think Obama can do better than her for VP.

But given on how well his team works strategy, I'm pretty sure whoever he picks will be to his best advantage. The long standing saying is that you don't win an election from your VP choice, but you certainly can lose one.

30274. thoughtful - 6/10/2008 8:39:27 AM

If obama is smart he'll appoint a white male for vp...ticket is carrying enough of a bias burden as it is.

30275. David Ehrenstein - 6/10/2008 9:08:49 AM

I get props from Jan Herman.

30276. jexster - 6/10/2008 10:52:19 AM

This oughta choke off demand

Gazprom: Oil Heading for $250/bbl


35 when McBush invaded Iraq to get us cheaper oil

30277. jexster - 6/10/2008 10:53:45 AM

Mark Morford knows what he's talking about. So howze HRC doin with black folk these days?

30278. jexster - 6/10/2008 10:54:34 AM

Magic Negro?

Greatest black person in the history of the world

30279. jexster - 6/10/2008 10:57:07 AM

HillHonkers running to the hills.

Leaving their gal all alone? Hey I gave ten bucks to benefit my political karma....going price of a political crack ho

But you guyz are responsible for this:

NYT: Hillary's Debts Could Burden Her For Years
By Eric Kleefeld - June 10, 2008, 9:03AM
Along with all the other historic firsts in this campaign cycle, Hillary Clinton may have just set another new milestone in her campaign: The largest presidential campaign debt in history. The New York Times notes this morning that Hillary's large debts, including $9.5 million in unpaid bills to vendors, could dog her for years with only a limited legal range of options on how to deal with it.

For example, any renegotiated debts would have have to be approved by the FEC, after having ensured that a good-faith effort was made to pay it off. And Hillary could end up spending a long time raising cash expressly for the purposes of paying off old bills, not financing a current or future campaign.

30280. jexster - 6/10/2008 10:57:16 AM

SHAME

30281. jexster - 6/10/2008 11:08:10 AM

He be the greatest!

Obama Could Raise 100 million in June

30282. arkymalarky - 6/10/2008 11:27:03 AM

From First Read: Besides Jones, the other names on the list bandied about with congressional Dems include (and not in any order): Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John Edwards, Evan Bayh, Kathleen Sebelius, Ted Strickland, Mark Warner, Tim Kaine, Jim Webb, Bill Nelson, Jack Reed, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Tom Daschle, and Sam Nunn. You'll notice a few names NOT on this list (that's not my exclusion -- hint hint). Besides Jones, I'm told the two other names that invited extended discussion were Biden and Strickland.

I don't care for Bayh (don't really know why, I just don't), but I thought he'd be a good choice. The names I notice are not on there, off the top of my head, are Wesley Clark, Al Gore (who I think is a silly choice and he wouldn't take it and might be insulted at the offer), and Rendell. I still like Webb best, but Daschle is appealing.

On another subject: when are the Dems going to be able to knock Lieberman out of his leadership roles? Not until January? At that time I'd be amazed if he's still in the party at all.

30283. arkymalarky - 6/10/2008 11:27:42 AM

And could CT recall him if they whad a reason to go that far?

30284. jexster - 6/10/2008 12:08:51 PM

I don' think Sens can be recalled but reminds me!

VOTE IN MSNBC's VEEPSTAKES

Keep Mentum Alive and the Dems are up now 2

30285. jexster - 6/10/2008 12:15:22 PM

I googled the internets for Arky


And the answer is ___________________


Just like my mother would tell me when I was 7

What does that word mean Mommy?
GOOGLE THE INTERNETS

30286. jexster - 6/10/2008 12:27:18 PM

As Robert would say prime grazin

30287. jexster - 6/10/2008 1:06:23 PM

Republicans block extra taxes on oil companies

30288. jexster - 6/10/2008 1:26:47 PM

Sign of the times....

NEW YORK - June 10, 2008 - MSNBC continued its ratings surge last week, with viewers flocking out of the "No Spin Zone" and to "The Place for Politics." For the first time ever, MSNBC's "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" was the #1 show at 8 p.m., out-drawing Fox News's "O'Reilly Factor" head-to-head among Adults 25-54. This is the first time since June 2001 that MSNBC has out-rated "The O'Reilly Factor" at 8 p.m.
Excluding Tuesday's primary coverage, "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" averaged 477,000 A25-54 vs. 472,000 for the "Factor."

30289. jexster - 6/10/2008 1:40:51 PM

30290. jexster - 6/10/2008 1:45:35 PM

I'm so mean I make medicine sick

30291. jexster - 6/10/2008 2:05:03 PM

Keep Republicans Away from Sharp Objects

30292. jexster - 6/10/2008 2:08:01 PM

The Case Against Webb

30293. jexster - 6/10/2008 2:13:50 PM

I still like him but the bitches won't....In fact thanks to Geraldine, DiLiar Hill Robert & Co, I might like him even more!

Military leaders are at best passive and at most often downright fearful when confronted by activists who allege that their culture is inherently oppressive toward females and that full assimilation of women depends only on a change in the mind-set of its misogynist leaders.

30294. jexster - 6/10/2008 4:01:19 PM

Someone tell McSenile what century this is.....

Someone tell McSenile what century this is



Carter's second term
by kos


McCain:

Sen. Obama says that I'm running for a Bush's third terms. It seems to me he's running for Jimmy Carter's second. (LAUGHTER)

Zing! Good one, John!

Rasmussen, July 2007:

Jimmy Carter
Approve: 57
Disapprove: 34

George W. Bush
Approve: 41
Disapprove: 59

Carter, in fact, is more popular than Bush Sr. or Bill Clinton. And that was a year ago, with a much more "popular" Bush than today. Now, he's mired in the 20s.

30295. jexster - 6/10/2008 4:48:47 PM

Where's my pet goat?



Well, since TD's busy, I will pick up the cudgels


Eternal Vigilance the Price of Liberty

The Hussein Obamas' Terrorist Fist Bump

30296. jexster - 6/10/2008 4:52:01 PM

30297. jexster - 6/10/2008 6:33:08 PM

I think Robert oughta give this guy some of his Vigra


David Broder
Polls Take Toll On Outwitted Obama Forces:

These are difficult days for supporters of Barack Obama. This city is filled with people who have voted for, worked for, contributed to and, in many cases, prayed for the success of the young senator from Illinois. The struggle he has had in trying to overtake Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination is wearing on their morale.

Last weekend, I heard them tell each other that while the race started months ago, it is still early going; that the crucial days in Iowa and New Hampshire are still ahead; and that there is time for Obama to close with a rush, as he did when he came from behind to capture the nomination for his Senate seat back in 2004.

But the steady drumbeat of polls showing Clinton with more support than all the other Democrats combined — and twice as much as Obama — is taking a toll. In their private moments, they wonder whether even Obama, as gifted as he is, can pull off this feat.

Such doubts can afflict any trailing candidate's campaign, but they are particularly pronounced — and poignant — in this case. Obama burst onto the national stage with such high expectations, fueled by his remarkable speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston, that nothing, including the presidency, seemed to be beyond his reach.

30298. jexster - 6/10/2008 6:53:06 PM

McSame Calls AZ a Swing State


Carried away by the white man's God-given Fear-of-the-Negro gene?

30299. anomie - 6/10/2008 7:15:52 PM

McCain talks about our need to stop importing oil in the same breath he slams Carter. If we had listened to Carter in 79 we would be energy independent by now. Conservatives have an illness of sorts when it comes to rational thought.

30300. jexster - 6/10/2008 7:24:08 PM

DEFENDING AMERICA
BY COL. DAVID H. HACKWORTH:

John McShame: American Hero or Navy Fraud

30301. jexster - 6/10/2008 7:46:23 PM

This some kinda sick joke?

McBane Googling the Internets to Vet Veeps

30302. anomie - 6/10/2008 7:58:46 PM

30300

I don't think we need to do this. I was opposed to the Vietnam war, but I'll gladly give McCain his hero status.

30303. jexster - 6/10/2008 9:17:35 PM

Rally to the Colors Robert!

Webb: An Affinity for the Confederacy




I KNEW Wonkers wasn't no damn yankee Nword lover!

30304. jexster - 6/10/2008 9:25:20 PM

“The venerable Robert E. Lee has taken some vicious hits, as dishonest or misinformed advocates among political interest groups and in academia attempt to twist yesterday’s America into a fantasy that might better service the political issues of today,” he wrote. “The greatest disservice on this count has been the attempt by these revisionist politicians and academics to defame the entire Confederate Army in a move that can only be termed the Nazification of the Confederacy.”



DAMN RIGHT!

30305. wonkers2 - 6/11/2008 11:34:28 AM

"Conservatives have an illness when it comes to rational thought." This stems from trying too hard to please a mentally defective contituency on the one hand and on the other a bunch of greedy Richistanis.

30306. jexster - 6/11/2008 11:40:58 AM

BBC: Bush Cronies May Have Stolen as Much as $24 Billion in Iraq
The largest war profiteering case in history?

30307. jexster - 6/11/2008 12:00:47 PM

How does John McBush plan to pay for our war with Pakistan?

More tax cuts?

30308. jexster - 6/11/2008 12:04:00 PM

O has O!pened a 14 point lead in NY and is now tied among WHITE PEOPLE ROBERT!

They are Yankees mind ya but they are also our White Brothers and Bitches

30309. anomie - 6/11/2008 12:05:07 PM

True, W2. Repub constituents are simply lost and deluded souls who can't think past a simple slogan. Most are still convinced that Repubs are more fiscally responsible despite all facts and info to the contrary. Folks like Concerned still try to play the "big government" card against Dems no matter how big the government grows under Bush, Reagan, and Nixon. "Homeland Security", anyone?

Watch McCain as he leads the sheep to another term of deficit spending and borrowing from other other countries to feed the tax cut hunger of the rich.

30310. jexster - 6/11/2008 12:08:15 PM

Obama Slams McCain on Troop Withdrawal Gaffe


"Not too important?"

Now that Bush has made war on Pakistan, I'd say it is very important.

30311. jexster - 6/11/2008 12:16:26 PM

WA-Pres
June 10 SurveyUSA
Obama (D) 56%, McCain (R) 39%

"Supposed to be" a battleground
Used to be a battleground

30312. jexster - 6/11/2008 12:18:43 PM

Camille Paglia:

Hillary for veep? Are you mad? What party nominee worth his salt would chain himself to a traveling circus like the Bill and Hillary Show? If the sulky bearded lady wasn't biting the new president’s leg, the oafish carnival barker would be sending in the clowns to lure all the young ladies into back-of-the-tent sword-swallowing

30313. jexster - 6/11/2008 12:36:05 PM

O's slamming and counterslamming and McCain digs a deeper hole with every round

Shit. He's inside the old bag's OODA loop..campaign not a week old

John McCain: I am Viral Video!

McCain: Bringing Troops Home from Iraq "Not Too Important" ...

30314. jexster - 6/11/2008 12:55:04 PM

When you've dug a hole for yourself do you stop digging OR

Do you BRING ON THE MENTUM!


Lieberman To Defend McCain's Comment That It's "Not Too Important" When Troops Return


The McCain campaign is holding a conference call in a few minutes to defend his claim today that it's "not too important" when the troops come home.

Needless to say, the person the McCain camp is wheeling out to defend this is none other than Joe Lieberman.

Could it have been any other way?

30315. arkymalarky - 6/11/2008 2:03:09 PM

Now that the general campaign is truly underway, I noticed the GOP dittoheads are scattering out like cockroaches all over the news channels. I don't know if I can take it for five months. And no one who interviews them bothers to correct out-and-out lies. If the media would do its damn job instead of, as Dailykos put it, being "stenographers" for their propaganda--and apply that the same to both sides, fine--I'd be able to tolerate it better. When you see propaganda being spewed unchallenged through a free medium, it's beyond depressing. I will say the Dems are far better at addressing it than they have ever been. If Obama doesn't win in this year, of all years, the elephant in the living room will be the reason. I personally like McCain, but he's the weakest candidate the Republicans have ever put up in my memory. And Obama is the strongest. Fwiw, Hillary Clinton would have been too--stronger than Bill, as a candidate, imo.

30316. jexster - 6/11/2008 2:14:07 PM

This is truly an unprecedented presidential campaign. Not only have the Dems already run for 16 months and built a real organizations in 50 states but there's no sign there will be a summer slack off.

Obama's fairly well pounding the old man. I worry though that there will be a sympathy backlash or perhaps McBush will learn how to run for office


Meanwhile

Lieberman Defends McCain Gaffe: He Served In Vietnam!

30317. alistairConnor - 6/11/2008 4:06:51 PM

Michigan : McCain 42 / Obama 45

That makes it over 300 electoral votes for the man in the blue corner. (when they get around to updating it)

Sweepstake: What is the next state to turn blue, people?

30318. alistairConnor - 6/11/2008 4:09:06 PM

Yup yup yup


Clinton's bitter wimmin are coming home to Daddy O

30319. jexster - 6/11/2008 4:42:42 PM

Meanwhile, a new Gallup poll today finds that Obama has jumped to a double-digit lead among women since Hillary quit, leading McCain 51%-38%.


Guess that means the bitches are back

30320. jexster - 6/11/2008 4:43:17 PM

Emily's List of Bitches on Wheels is back2

30321. jexster - 6/11/2008 4:47:06 PM

Is McFlame's Veeper Macacan Bobby Jindal an Excorcist?

30322. jexster - 6/11/2008 4:53:59 PM

The Girdle Girlz are Back

Hill's EList Rallies to the NegrO

Perhaps because of the demonic attraction the mandinga hold over our women folk Robert?

30323. jexster - 6/11/2008 5:23:19 PM

Hill's Honkers

Clintons' supporters may not be falling in love, but they're falling in line

Spare the rod spoil the bitches

Party unity first requires party discipline. I think I said so once or twice

30324. jexster - 6/11/2008 5:39:13 PM

Note the Democrats' repeated use of the word "confused" when referring to John McCain in this summary of today's attack on the latest Iraq Gaffe

30325. jexster - 6/11/2008 5:53:09 PM

How you can help send Mentum packing

30326. jexster - 6/11/2008 7:19:11 PM

The Beeyatches Be Back


And just about everyone else too


NBC/WSJ Poll: Obama Leads McCain, Dominates In Key Demographics

30327. jexster - 6/11/2008 7:44:51 PM

More from NBC:

59% say it's more important to have a president who will focus on progress and moving America forward, versus 37% who would rather the president protect what has made America great...

What’s more, 54% said the statement that "This is a time when it is important to look for a person who will bring greater changes to the current policies even if he is less experienced and tested," identified more with their personal view, while 42% said the statement that "This is a time when it is important to look for a more experienced and tested person even if he brings fewer changes to the current policies," was more in line with their view of the race.


Presidential choice
5/08 (4/08)
Barack Obama 47 (46)
John McCain 41 (43)

Who do you think will win?
Barack Obama 54
John McCain 30

30328. jexster - 6/11/2008 8:57:55 PM

This has GOT to stop

Scarlett Johansson Has Crush on O

30329. wonkers2 - 6/11/2008 9:23:07 PM

MSNBC just reported a big lead for Obama among Hispanics 50-something to 20-something. Apparently this was a big surprise to the pundits because of their lopsided support for Hillary. The bloviators apparently were expecting many, perhaps most, would jump ship and vote for McCain. Apparently they understand which side their bread is buttered on.

30330. jexster - 6/11/2008 9:41:54 PM

The beaners or the bloviators?

30331. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 5:44:24 AM

Is it impossible for the media to grasp anything that falls in between all and nothing? If Obama--and McCain, for that matter--are required to dump anyone on their team with connections to corporations or anything else tagged to "old style" politics, there won't be anyone who knows what they're doing on either team. I think the results of McCain's purge can already be seen in the quality of his campaign.

30332. jexster - 6/12/2008 10:17:05 AM

Damn
Bush and the Republicans can't write habeas corpus out of the Constitution!

30333. jexster - 6/12/2008 10:36:20 AM

Anyone we know?

Do you know that Barack Obama is a Muslim terrorist who was born in a foreign country and that his wife Michelle hates white people? If you're a paranoid crank who never developed critical thinking skills, you probably do. Particularly if you read right-wing websites!

30334. jexster - 6/12/2008 10:57:07 AM

Fight Concerned's Lies
FightTheSmears

I saw a great piece on BBC world not seen I don't believe on US media - a visit to O'Bama's "madrassa" and his old house in Jakarta.

They made fun of him because he was tall and black! Greaseball muzzies...

The big news for anyone who knows that third world country is that he actually lived in an Indonesian not a foreign neighborhood served by indonesians

Ate their food..shopped at their markets...played wiht their grimy street urchins...smoked their kreteks???

30335. jexster - 6/12/2008 11:46:08 AM

Lou Dobbs is pondering a run for NJ Gov as a republican

LOUMENTUM!!

30336. concerned - 6/12/2008 12:12:18 PM

Re. 30321 -

rejexst can't even spell 'exorcist'. Why should anybody bother to read his ignorant lies?

30337. concerned - 6/12/2008 12:13:13 PM

lemminglike, off a cliff...

59% say it's more important to have a president who will focus on progress and moving America forward

30338. concerned - 6/12/2008 12:14:18 PM

Re. 30333 -

Nope.

30339. concerned - 6/12/2008 12:18:52 PM

Re. 30334 -

There should be no quotes around 'madrassa' in that post. That's what it was, just as surely as the candidate's middle name is Hussein.

You Lefties certainly are ashamed of your choice of candidate.

30340. concerned - 6/12/2008 12:19:26 PM

Of course, there is much to be ashamed about, in this case.

30341. jexster - 6/12/2008 12:23:01 PM

Polls
Bush's Lead Was Never as Big as Obama's Is Now

30342. concerned - 6/12/2008 12:24:03 PM

Farther to fall.

30343. jexster - 6/12/2008 12:24:15 PM

30339

If you're a paranoid crank who never developed critical thinking skills,


Welcome back

30344. concerned - 6/12/2008 12:28:01 PM

A self referential post regarding being a crank without critical thinking skills from rejexst.

My critical thinking skills have me doing top tier electronic design for international corporations.

What do you do? Flack and lie for the most incompetent presidential candidate in modern history.

30345. concerned - 6/12/2008 12:32:06 PM

Hussein: the most incompetent presidential candidate in modern history.

30346. winstonsmith - 6/12/2008 1:09:49 PM

McSame: the most incontinent presidential candidate in modern history.

30347. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 2:32:24 PM

Con'd, if you want to possess a shred of credibility, you're going to HAVE to start working with facts. Obama never attended a madrassa. Never. Go to the site and get deprogrammed so you can vote in your own interests for a tax cut this fall instead of voting for more corporate welfare and more war.

30348. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 2:36:54 PM

My uncle was a top technologist with TI before retired. One of the stupidest people I ever knew. I learned from him from the time I can remember that success in an area is not indicative of general intelligence. He's a sweet guy, but outside his field his thought processes are bare minimum to function as an independent adult.

30349. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 2:38:07 PM

Hahaha! Good one, Winston!

30350. concerned - 6/12/2008 2:45:08 PM

Snarky -

If you want to possess a shred of credibility, you should stop pulling stuff from your sphincter.

From Wikipedia:

The word madrasah is derived regularly from the triconsonantal root ?-?-? (d-r-s), which relates to learning or teaching, through the wazn (form/stem) (????(? maf?al(a), meaning "a place where X is done"; therefore, madrasah literally means "a place where learning/teaching is done". The word is also present as a loanword with the same innocuous meaning in many Arabic-influenced languages such as Urdu, Bengali, Hindi, Persian, Turkish, Kurdish, Indonesian, Malay and Bosnian.[1] In the Arabic language, the word ????? implies no sense other than that which the word school represents in the English language, such as private, public or parochial school, as well as for any primary or secondary school whether Muslim, non-Muslim or secular. Unlike the understanding of the word school in British English, the word madrasah is like the term school in American English, in that it can refer to a university-level or post-graduate school. The correct Arabic word for a university, however, is ????? (ja-ma?at). The Hebrew cognate midrasha also connotes the meaning of a place of learning.

Therefore, it is perfectly correct to say Hussein attended a madrassa while he lived in Indonesia.

30351. concerned - 6/12/2008 2:47:18 PM

Re. 30348 -

How unfortunate that you have such a low opinion of your relatives.

30352. winstonsmith - 6/12/2008 2:48:39 PM

Thanks Arky, I want to give Con'd credit. He inspired me to think of it.

30353. concerned - 6/12/2008 2:49:23 PM

How can I 'get deprogrammed' when Wikipedia agrees with me regarding what a madrassa is?

30354. jexster - 6/12/2008 2:56:36 PM

in my mind I'm gone to Carolina....


Dead Heat in Tar Heel State

30355. jexster - 6/12/2008 2:57:02 PM

30356. jexster - 6/12/2008 3:02:23 PM

New Broom Sweeps Clean

O'Bama Campaign Taking Over Large Swaths of DNC


How does THAT fit your international communist conspiracy Tom DeLay!

30357. jexster - 6/12/2008 3:03:45 PM

Concerned can't read.

That's exactly what he went to - A CATHOLIC SCHOOL

Featured the BBCWorld Service last night

30358. jexster - 6/12/2008 3:06:54 PM

LIE: Barack Obama attended a radical madrassa

CNN Debunks Concerned Hoax

Correction - Public School..Barry was in the Boy Scouts

30359. jexster - 6/12/2008 3:07:55 PM

A paranoid incapable of critical thought

a real right wing amoeba

30360. concerned - 6/12/2008 3:07:59 PM

Re. 30352 -

You're welcome, Winston.

30361. concerned - 6/12/2008 3:09:51 PM

jexster can't read -

Before Hussein went to that Catholic School, he went to an Indonesian public school commonly called a Madrassa, Madrasah, etc, etc.

30362. jexster - 6/12/2008 3:14:07 PM

The video is right there!
You went to a madrassa too.

When you won that geography bee


It is obvious that you are perpetuating a xenophobic, racist Republican lie


AGAIN

So what else is new

30363. jexster - 6/12/2008 3:19:34 PM

30364. jexster - 6/12/2008 3:27:15 PM

Freedom Fighters Rejoice

Dems Praise Supreme Court for Defending the Constitution Against McBush War Party

30365. jexster - 6/12/2008 3:28:43 PM

In the CNN video don't miss cute pic of little Barry surrounded by hot young indonesian bitches!


Mandingo baby!

30366. jexster - 6/12/2008 3:35:52 PM

McBush VeepStakes

Meet Bobby Jindal
Macaca Exorcist

30367. jexster - 6/12/2008 3:48:50 PM

Whether McSame chooses Jindal or no, I am sure he will have a central prime time role at RNC2008 expelling voodoo demons which Barack planted last week







The only question is...will the exorcism take place before or after Duhbya addresses the fawning assemblage


Powerful gris gris

30368. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 3:56:37 PM

If you want to possess a shred of credibility, you should stop pulling stuff from your sphincter.

But that's where I keep my Con'd Post Reader!

If we were all taught in madrassas, then you have a responsibility to share that information. You ought to head to the FIght the Smears site with that info.

And I don't have a low opinion of people because they are stupid. I can't afford to.

BTW, did you see the latest comparison of the McCain and Obama tax proposals? From the Tax Policy Center, quoted in TPM:

If enacted, the Obama and McCain tax plans would have radically different effects on the distribution of tax burdens in the United States. The Obama tax plan would make the tax system significantly more progressive by providing large tax breaks to those at the bottom of the income scale and raising taxes significantly on upper-income earners. The McCain tax plan would make the tax system more regressive, even compared with a system in which the 2001-06 tax cuts are made permanent. It would do so by providing relatively little tax relief to those at the bottom of the income scale while providing huge tax cuts to households at the very top of the income distribution.

So vote your own interests in November. Vote Obama.

30369. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:00:22 PM

CNN
Q:(has)"personality and leadership qualities a President should have"

O'Bama 63%
McBush 66%


Latter sure to collapse as his disaster campaign continues to unravel

30370. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:03:36 PM

He be the GREATEST Arky!

Greatest Negro ever to walk the face of the earth

30371. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 4:05:02 PM

Wonder how Mark Penn's career is going now that the Clinton campaign is over. He's something else. Candidates are ultimately responsible for their own campaigns, demographics account for a lot of results no matter how the pundits try to analyze that away, and Obama is a phenomenal candidate--BUT it's not just that Obama won, it's that Hillary Clinton lost a huge lead and started the race by losing Iowa. And the more analysis I read, the more it seems that basically three people crippled her campaign early so that it could not recover after 12 straight wins from Obama; and once those people--Bill, Doyle, and Penn--were eliminated from strategizing or put out of the spotlight she began to do better--it was just too little too late.

I can't imagine Penn's helping himself with his pathetic deflecto game.

30372. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 4:06:31 PM

But the Obama camp and supporters need to watch hitting McCain too hard. That kind of stuff will backfire bigtime if they're not careful.

30373. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:07:25 PM

Really Arky you fallin for that old BushShit trick of blaming someone else for failure?

Just proves she wasn't ready on Day 1, 2, 3.....


I am surprised it took so long for her girdle girls to realize this

30374. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:08:15 PM

You can't beat the old rented mule too hard

That's ridiculous

Let em have the sympathy vote

30375. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 4:09:33 PM

There's some idiot anchor on CNN whose name I can't recall. He's a white man with dark hair and a loud voice--which doesn't narrow it down a lot. He kept giving a lead before every commercial stating an Obama rumor, followed by the question of whether it was true. That went on for most of the damned show before he proceeded to "debunk" the rumors he'd listed for an hour. For all the people who caught the snippet flipping by, the way he presented it sounded like a news item in itself. What an idiot.

30376. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 4:11:51 PM

Like I said, she's ultimately responsible for her own campaign, and she didn't trust her instincts enough to set the tone and direction until it was too late. But that's when she was the most impressive. It's also, according to reports, when she began calling superdelegates herself. I don't think it was that she's a woman. It's that she, like past Dems, was afraid to ignore the "experts" she hired, and of course her successful husband, who lost his mojo while no one was looking.

30377. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:12:13 PM

That's PRECISELY why yesterday I officially launched

Peoples' Fast Boat--people for Truth yesterday at TPMEC

Sure there were lotsa whines from the panty waist liberals which populate the place like so many pansies in the garden but drastic times call for drastic measures

30378. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:12:46 PM

Peoples' Fast Boat Songbird boatpeople for Truth

30379. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:16:12 PM

Freedom's Fight Against McBush Treason

O'Bama Introduces Legislation to Crack Down on McBush Lobbyists for Iran

30380. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 4:17:17 PM

Jex, I mean this in the nicest possible way (really, I do) but people here ignore your goings on, positive and negative, about every possible distinction of one person from another, whether it be ethnicity, gender, even gayness!, or whatever. It's just eating crayons.

But for the Obama CAMPAIGN and surrogates to overplay that angle as a strategy of casting doubt on McCain, they need to be very careful. I actually think they went overboard in their criticism of McCain's statements on the Today Show as being "confused," etc. This isn't about poor McCain. It's about winning over the moderate middle, especially white middle-aged working class women and men.

30381. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:26:34 PM

Says you Bessie Mae

Take Up Freedom's Fight Against The McBush Tehran Treason!

Join Peoples' Fast Boat Songbird Boat People for Truth

Time to open er up!

30382. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:27:29 PM

Barry may have shut down the Dem 527's but he can't stop the truth

The truth will out and set Arky free

30383. wonkers2 - 6/12/2008 4:29:08 PM

Is it true that Jindal is a secret Muslim?

30384. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:30:01 PM

McCain IS confused

He doesn't know the difference between Iran and Iraq

He doesn't know the difference between NATO and Bush's Coalition of the Drillling...

He doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground

The old man is confused.

He also is a confirmed communist traitor with a nasty chronic case of PTSD

He's also quite possibly dumber that George Bush

30385. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:30:44 PM

No Jinda was HINDU

MACACA RELIGION


I hate Hindus

So does Wonk

30386. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:31:17 PM

He probably picked up those demons the same place he picked up his gut worms


Summer vacation on the Ganges

30387. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:33:46 PM

Barack O'Bama's Birth Certificate

30388. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:35:16 PM

John McSame's Certificate of Live Birth



(HT KOS ..now fully operation cell of Boat People for Truth)

30389. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:43:21 PM

Vietnamese Peoples' Nasty Class PT Boat

Leaves ole Arky in our wake

30390. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:45:05 PM

August 4

The Great Leader's Birthday!


A LEO

Figures

30391. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:45:20 PM

King of the jungle

30392. jexster - 6/12/2008 4:52:41 PM

Here's hoping that McSenile does what Adlai Stevenson did in 1956 - throw the VP choice to the Convention.



Macaca Jindal Battles Mentum
Mano a mano
Fight to the death


Cheney Stops By Lieberman's Office for CT Radio Interview

30393. jexster - 6/12/2008 5:12:11 PM

Fixed News Unveils Mascot
"SockObama"

30394. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 5:13:28 PM

Okay. #30388 was funny.

30395. arkymalarky - 6/12/2008 5:14:43 PM

Hey, Jex, Obama's birthday is the same day as Bob's. And he's a lefty like me. And he was born the year my brother was born. How could I NOT have gotten behind him early?

30396. jexster - 6/12/2008 5:18:43 PM

Lotsa big time pols are Leo's

30397. jexster - 6/12/2008 5:24:07 PM

If most politicians are Leo's why are most perverts Republican?


Raygun Appointed Appellate Court Judge Operates Porn Website Specializing in Bestiality


Next thing you know Republicans will be trying to marry dogs, cats and sheep

30398. concerned - 6/12/2008 5:30:57 PM

Re. 30387 -

Better let Hussein know that this was before Selma. Early Onset Alzheimer's, you know.

30399. concerned - 6/12/2008 5:34:36 PM

Re. 30393 -

Should have been a Hussein Sock Puppet.

30400. concerned - 6/12/2008 5:35:58 PM

Re. 30397 -

A comment about 'perverts' that makes Mr. Self Referential what he is.

30401. jexster - 6/12/2008 5:39:20 PM

McShame's campaign manager was a lobbyist for Iran

30402. jexster - 6/12/2008 5:41:39 PM

30403. jexster - 6/12/2008 5:56:52 PM

McLies on Tape - Curses Caught Again
2005

I support Bush on all transcendent issues


If he can't remember what he had for breakfast, how in the hell can anyone expect him to remember what he told Tim Russert three years ago.


Dazed and confused Arky.

30404. jexster - 6/12/2008 6:14:52 PM

McCain says he can't use a computer without assistance.

So how is he going to google the internets and discover that Bobby Jindal is a Hindu and an exorcist?

30405. concerned - 6/12/2008 6:15:09 PM

Remembering what he had for breakfast - that's about the extent of Rejexst's mental capabilities.

30406. concerned - 6/12/2008 6:19:40 PM

Of course, tasting his dried drool helps quite a bit here.

30407. jexster - 6/12/2008 6:34:48 PM

The Jindals Summer Vacation

30408. concerned - 6/12/2008 6:50:29 PM

Rejexst's mockery is very revealing of how content free Left Wing political attitudes really are.

30409. jexster - 6/12/2008 6:56:37 PM

30410. jexster - 6/12/2008 6:57:38 PM

Little Jindals

30411. jexster - 6/12/2008 7:00:25 PM

Hey TD


How come he don't have one of them red dots

30412. concerned - 6/12/2008 7:16:15 PM

The Obamanation:

30413. concerned - 6/12/2008 7:20:56 PM

Notice the obvious LW intellectual capacity.

30414. jexster - 6/12/2008 7:28:02 PM

By George I think he's got it.



Jun 3, 2008 ... Substance aside, Obama crushed McCain in all other ways that matter. ... rhetorically etc, it boiled down to Godzilla versus Bambi. .


[The Corner on National Review Online]

30415. jexster - 6/12/2008 7:36:23 PM

An excellent Father's Day Gift!

30416. jexster - 6/12/2008 8:40:20 PM

Fox News Radio: Obama is GAY!
Breaking

New shocking sex and drug revelations threaten Dems

30417. jexster - 6/12/2008 8:54:15 PM

Olbermann's comment rips the 100 year old warrior

provides a little context for "troops' return of little importance"


The problem for the McCain campaign is that he keeps stumbling into clear statements of his actual policy, which is close to lethal since the vast majority of Americans disagree with his policy and Iraq is virtually the only thing he's running on.

Josh Marshall

30418. wonkers2 - 6/12/2008 10:08:54 PM

Hmmh? Jex was an early Obama supporter???

30419. jexster - 6/12/2008 10:49:34 PM

Early? Early?

I was signed up the day he announced.

While UR here Wonkers, isn't it proper for high Macacans to sport a red head dot?

30420. concerned - 6/13/2008 12:50:31 AM

Is Josh Marshall really that much of an idiot or just a shallow disingenuous liar?

30421. concerned - 6/13/2008 12:54:41 AM

What really strikes me about Hussein supporters is the wholly emotional basis for their preference. Most of them couldn't give you a single new idea he's come up with or a single reason that he could succeed with the ideas he has when they have so abysmally failed or been rejected by the American voters before.

And then you have rejexst, pure self interest personified, the transparently bigoted moron whose choice of the week is whoever he perceives the Democrat front runner is.

30422. concerned - 6/13/2008 1:04:34 AM

About all Hussein supporters really have is 'hope' for 'change'. Have they ever considered that the 'change' that Hussein purports to represent really consists of ideas that are at least several generations old and that have repeatedly failed in the past?

The answer is 'no', primarily because of their huge emotional attachments that dwarf their thought processes that are also starved by their ignorance and gross lack of objectivity.

When presented with the fact that their thoughtless policies in the past have been tens of thousands of times more destructive to societies than the Christianity that it is so fashionable for them to abhor, their response almost universally amounts to, decoded: 'Who cares! If we kill tens of millions of people, it's worth it because this LW socialist bullshit makes me feel better about myself right now! Fuck you, if you want me to actually reason anything out on my own!'.

30423. arkymalarky - 6/13/2008 1:04:37 AM

Three words for you Con'd: Middle-class tax cut. C'mon in. The water's fine. You won't regret it. You know you don't like McCain. Try something different.

30424. arkymalarky - 6/13/2008 1:05:38 AM

Did you ever go and read all the details of his plans on his website?

30425. concerned - 6/13/2008 1:13:05 AM

I repeat that I am an agnostic. I think most religious ideas, including those of Christianity, are to me personally, boring, annoying and stupid. But that doesn't make me an enemy of religion per se, unlike most LW idiots whose for shit emotional reactions masquerading as 'ideas' are many many times worse than the best large religions that have been proven throughout history by succesfully integrating into the most egalitarian societies.

30426. concerned - 6/13/2008 1:14:42 AM

Re. 30423 -

I don't believe it. There is no way Hussein is going to jhave a chance of accomplishing anything he is promising unless he imposes nearly across the board tax increases.

30427. alistairconnor - 6/13/2008 4:37:56 AM

Sounds like a putsch to me...

DNC moves to Chicago

30428. alistairconnor - 6/13/2008 4:56:21 AM

Arky :

But the Obama camp and supporters need to watch hitting McCain too hard. That kind of stuff will backfire bigtime if they're not careful.

I agree that there's a danger.

Jex : think of Vichy France. The uncomprehending people, profoundly defeated, welcomed the dictatorship of the ageing war hero. Any criticism of the regime was assimilated to a shameful beat-up of the poor, weak old fellow, Pétain. It took a couple of years for this effect to wear off.

30429. thoughtful - 6/13/2008 8:26:38 AM

"couldn't give you a single new idea he's come up with "

odd to have to say this to a conservative, but in this case, there is no need for new ideas as the old ones worked just fine. the next pres can make a lot of progress by just undoing the mess the current one has put us in...y'know little things like habeas corpus...like not torturing people...like getting rid of crony capitalism...like being fiscally conservative...like opening up government information to the light of public scrutiny again. In fact even if the new pres goes back to some of what w said he was going to do, we'd be better off...remember when w promised no nation building???

30430. thoughtful - 6/13/2008 8:29:44 AM

'Who cares! If we kill tens of millions of people, it's worth it because this LW socialist bullshit makes me feel better about myself right now!

Please tell me which LW social policies that were instituted in the US killed tens of millions of people. Be specific.

There is no way Hussein is going to jhave a chance of accomplishing anything he is promising unless he imposes nearly across the board tax increases.

Far better to tax and spend than don't tax and spend which is exactly what w and his supply side friends have done. And if you look at mccain's proposed extending of bush's tax cuts and expansion of spending, his fiscal package is the most unsound one EVER. Far worse than w's was.

30431. jexster - 6/13/2008 11:18:19 AM

Like just about everything else in the McBush disaster, Administration detention policy is in disarray.

I think he ought to invite em all to stay in luxury quarters at the ranch....bring their extended families, clear brush, eat brisket

30432. jexster - 6/13/2008 12:02:54 PM

Eric Kleefeld reports that O is sending 3600 full time volunteers to swing states in the Obama Fellows summer program.

Unprecedented - again


Same thing they did last summer with Camp Obama. They took applications all spring. In contrast to Camp O, they restricted to college age.

It's serious business. Very much the Marshall Ganz model as I understand this new iteration.






Ganz video

30433. jexster - 6/13/2008 12:09:22 PM

Petain? McShame?

You French don't appreciate the Marechal's popularity! Or his greatness for that matter

There is little or no enthusiasm for that old bag of gas. Polls show that Republicans are quite dissatisfied with their default candidate and why just today, the Republican Senate Campaign committee chairman wrote off GOP seats in Virginia and New Mexico.


This is a change election as in THROW THE BUMS out. People are angry and 80% think the USG is on the wrong track. They've had it with McBush and the Republicans.


This is a change election and O'Bama's calling that tune

30434. jexster - 6/13/2008 12:11:30 PM

30430 - McShame was against the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy before he was for them.

He was and is for GOP hare-brained SS privatization.
And he's getting beat like a rented mule with that right today in fact

30435. jexster - 6/13/2008 12:26:25 PM

Right now O addresses his proposal to lift the cap on SS earnings for everyone making more than 250,000

Points out that at one point John McBush was for that before he was against it!


Will the Real Tax-and-Spender Please ’Fess Up?
The New York Times

30436. jexster - 6/13/2008 12:29:35 PM

Let em run against Jimmy Carter and "the policies of the 60's and 70's"

Just proves how vacuous US conservatism has become now that's it is on its last legs

And besides 57% have a favorable opinion of Carter...Bush at 28 the most unpopular president since polling began

30437. jexster - 6/13/2008 12:31:39 PM

Born on June 13, 1978?

Happy thirtieth birthday.

Welcome to the same old tired GOP talking points. No you aren't in a time warp.

They are

30438. arkymalarky - 6/13/2008 12:37:23 PM

No telling what things will be like in this country by the time of the election. I don't see how McCain will be elected, but I don't discount race as a major factor in a number of voters. For many, like my 60 year old neighbor who never voted before, any reservations will be overcome by the horrendous circumstances they're living under right now. Ironically, rural white people are suffering more than almost any other demographic. Gas and groceries are killing them and their jobs are low-paying and insecure. We've lost a major lumber plant in this area--hard work, but good jobs and benefits--and our rural populations are sinking fast. Rural schools like mine are losing kids and are suffering from both lower state funding and a threat of closure as a result.

And I don't know why AR continues in the McCain column. If the Clintons get behind Obama I don't see how he can lose here, and we only have one major Republican politician--a rep in nw AR. I think Obama has a good shot here. I wish there were polling available for all the states at this point in time to compare to October.

30439. jexster - 6/13/2008 12:54:58 PM

Women still make 80% of what men earn

The Free Market God hath spoken

A woman's place is in the home

Now get back to bakin girls

30440. jexster - 6/13/2008 12:56:14 PM

Gas and groceries are killing them and their jobs are low-paying and insecure

Oh but that's not "core inflation"! Just the inflation that fucks everyone up ...except those in the market for Bentley's like Mago and wonkers

30441. arkymalarky - 6/13/2008 12:59:14 PM

You think you're safe 'cause you're gay and grown and don't have any women to answer to. But don't make me come through this computer.

Oh but that's not "core inflation"! Just the inflation that fucks everyone up

Exactly. And makes them blindside Republicans in elections after they finally get that the numbers don't match the reality.

That's why I believe Con'd will vote for Obama in November.

30442. concerned - 6/13/2008 1:03:17 PM

Who can tell us about this photo?

30443. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:06:27 PM

Dead Elephant Society

GOP Writes Off Virginia and New Mexico

30444. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:06:59 PM

That's Obama!

30445. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:08:23 PM

See Message 30416

Obama and Wright were secret lovers....did cocaine and played hide the salami

30446. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:11:53 PM

The 100 year old warrior...

Charles Krauthammer wants McBush to run on Iraq


Guess that's better than running on the economy or against Jimmy Carter

30447. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:15:25 PM

A Peoples' Fast Boat Songbird Boat People for Truth update; The Latest GOP Laugher


Larry Sinclair for Newbies

30448. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:21:38 PM

Caught Red-Handed

In the post below I noted how John McCain is now going in for the same Social Security 'privatization' bamboozlement that President Bush did, claiming that calling his policy 'privatization' is some sort of lie or spin.

Here's video of McCain using the word himself in 2004 and then claiming it's all a bum rap just this morning. For more ins and outs of the policy and terminology issues, see the post below. To take the McCain flimflam straight up, no chaser, watch the vid

30449. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:31:24 PM

CNNMoney: Iraq Could Cost You $2.7 Trillion<

The Name's McSame - Iraq 100

30450. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:31:42 PM

my friends

30451. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:48:51 PM

Colored Birds of a Feather: The Ugly Face of Black Racism




Colin Powell, the former Republican secretary of state, says he is not ruling out a vote for Barack Obama, the presumed Democratic nominee for president.

30452. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:55:41 PM

sad isn't it


And bad news for Mentum
McShame may need to throw him under the bus for some melanin

My second choice in the GOP Veepstakes poll on MSNBC



The Exorcist


Andrea Mitchell confirms from conversations that Powell is open to voting for Obama as are "several prominent republicans and former Bush officials"

30453. jexster - 6/13/2008 1:59:42 PM

WRT Larry Sinclair


Could it BE more obvious..

The Dead Elephants Society as an Edwin Edwards's problem

IN SPADES as it were

Before election day, Edwards had joked with reporters: "The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy". Edwards zinged Treen many times, once describing Treen as "so slow it takes him an hour and a half to watch 60 Minutes."

During a gubernatorial debate in 1983, Treen asked Edwards, "How come you talk out of both sides of your mouth?" Edwards instantly responded, "So people like you with only half a brain can understand me." ... Edwards won the 1983 election in a 62 percent landslide, effectively ending Treen's political career,

30454. alistairconnor - 6/13/2008 2:14:23 PM

Message # 30442
Who can tell us about this photo? With one glance,I can tell you it's a cheesy, technically incompetent Photoshop paste-up.

Who's the whitey?

30455. jexster - 6/13/2008 2:21:25 PM

That's the Larry Sinclair thing AC


The big GrandOldPigshit smear du jour..variously Obama got a BJ in a limo all the way to the Secret Lover thing

Apparently it's been on Wingnut Talk Radio for some time

30456. jexster - 6/13/2008 2:22:10 PM

IOW - Obama's live boy

Gonna beat McShame like a rented fucking mule and they are scared shitless

30457. concerned - 6/13/2008 2:44:32 PM

Re. 30455 -

What do you mean 'GOP'? Sinclair is a far Lefty just like Hussein.

30458. concerned - 6/13/2008 2:47:46 PM

In fact Sinclair is just like rejexst himself.

30459. arkymalarky - 6/13/2008 3:47:47 PM

Tim Russert died! That's terrible.

30460. arkymalarky - 6/13/2008 3:48:31 PM

I can't believe it.

30461. David Ehrenstein - 6/13/2008 4:04:10 PM

Yep, he's no longer under Dick Cheney's "control."

30462. David Ehrenstein - 6/13/2008 5:10:44 PM

Latest FaBlog: Fait Divers -- Hommage to Carol Channing

30463. jexster - 6/13/2008 5:43:36 PM

I guess all you high and mighty liberal buttholes are happy now

30464. jexster - 6/13/2008 5:46:07 PM

Wolf Blitzer "We are not sure what the cause of death was. It was initially reported to have been a heart attack but it could have been cardiac failure"



Uh huh

30465. wonkers2 - 6/13/2008 5:58:31 PM

Blitzer is a moron.

30466. jexster - 6/13/2008 6:02:37 PM

I see this as excellent news for Mentum what with McBush's age and all, he'll need someone who is ready to jew us from day1

30467. jexster - 6/13/2008 6:06:10 PM

This guy makes Wolf look like the Second Coming of Einstein


Guess who?


And over the centuries, our nations stood united in moments of testing — from the Marne to Omaha Beach to the long vigil of the Civil War.

30468. jexster - 6/13/2008 6:16:44 PM

Joe Palooka Mourns

30469. jexster - 6/13/2008 8:39:17 PM

Legend of a Mind

Timothy Russert's dead.
No, no, no, no, he's outside looking in.

30470. jexster - 6/13/2008 8:49:58 PM

Change the way politics is done in McBushville

30471. concerned - 6/13/2008 9:17:03 PM

With a puffed up Daley machine ignoramus?


HA!

30472. concerned - 6/13/2008 9:17:04 PM

With a puffed up Daley machine ignoramus?


HA!

30473. concerned - 6/13/2008 9:19:06 PM

Hussein is the presumptive heir to the 'dead can vote' Huey Long Northern Style political system.

Too corrupt to be a national insider.

30474. jexster - 6/13/2008 9:37:02 PM

So should I put you down for a continuation of BushVille crony corruption?

30475. jexster - 6/13/2008 9:45:33 PM

Paint it black....


Obama: GOP Trying to Paint Michelle and I as 'too black'


While it all may be the same on the inside, they ain't pink are they TD (except in the Marxist sense)

30476. jexster - 6/13/2008 9:52:25 PM

30477. jexster - 6/13/2008 10:31:42 PM

McSenile Confused Again

Forgets position on Social Security. He really should learn to use a computer without assistance particularly if he forgets to take his meds

That way he could discover YouTube

30478. jexster - 6/13/2008 10:32:18 PM

Then again, he'd probably forget

30479. winstonsmith - 6/14/2008 1:21:00 AM

Saw this blog entry on Reuters (FROM BLOG: VivirLatino):

John McCain has a Republican Problem
POSTED: Thursday, June 12, 2008


Forget about Republican presidential nominee John McCain's Latino problems, he has a problem within his own party. The Hill reports:

At least 14 Republican members of Congress have refused to endorse or publicly support Sen. John McCain for president, and more than a dozen others declined to answer whether they back the Arizona senator.
One reason is a four letter word. No, not what McCain called his wife, but Iraq. Some have cited his energy plan. Others are playing word games by saying they support McCain but haven't endorsed him.

So while there is much focus on the assumed disunity of the Democratic party, seems the GOP has a similar problem.

30480. jexster - 6/14/2008 11:26:15 AM

BAGHDAD, June 13 -- The Bush administration's Iraq policy suffered two major setbacks Friday when Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki publicly rejected key U.S. terms for an ongoing military presence and anti-American Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr called for a new militia offensive against U.S. forces.


And John McWar thinks that Iraq's like Germany 1945 or South Korea 1953


Yes he's confused. But I am not an ageist. I'll give him a break. And I'll give him a VEEP with a demonstrated record of setting the old guy straight!




Hopefully the Exorcist won't send any of those evil Hindu demons my way

Holy Michael Archangel defend us

30481. jexster - 6/14/2008 12:32:37 PM

Uncle Ho's Songbird knows no shame

When asked yesterday by reporters what it was like to be interviewed by Russert, McCain said with a smile, ``I once told him I haven't had so much fun since my last interrogation at prison camp.''

30482. jexster - 6/14/2008 12:46:08 PM

John McCain’s Chilling Project for America

30483. jexster - 6/14/2008 12:50:10 PM

The blueprint for Forward Base America


Like the guy in the movie yelling pointlessly out the window how he's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore, American voters have a persistent fantasy about their own transformative powers.

They want out of Iraq, which is understandable. Beyond all the corpses, walking wounded and destruction, George W. Bush's expeditionary adventure in social engineering is costing Americans $2 billion a week and there are all sorts of good uses for cash like that here at home.

But most Americans don't understand what is going on right now, urgently and secretly, in Baghdad and Washington. Nor do they realize it may be part of a grand plan, hatched by the same conservative group that brought about the war on Iraq in the first place.


Been the NeoCon plan all along
Still is.
That's why McSame is running for president

30484. jexster - 6/14/2008 1:21:21 PM

Party ID in Lutefisk Land

30485. jexster - 6/14/2008 1:33:44 PM

He be the greatest!

Rendell: Obama is now 'greatest' U.S. politician

I daresay and have dare said - the Greatest Negro in the History of the Planet

Ever unafraid to call a great spade a great spade!

30486. jexster - 6/14/2008 1:37:11 PM

Rendell, who often accused reporters of having "drunk the Obama Kool-Aid" during the campaign, said an Obama supporter brought a canister of Kool-Aid with an Obama sign on it to a Rendell event earlier this week.

"I drank it on Monday," a grinning Rendell said, "so from now on Senator Obama is the greatest American politician ever to live."


Goes great with Lutefisk Robert

30487. jexster - 6/14/2008 3:35:37 PM

Election 2008 is a battle against the Little Fascist War Party of the US, not dems v republicans

Forewarned is forearmed

They want to talk about Obama as black panther, black muslim, communist and closet peter puffer



Why do you think they do this?

Because they hate our values


From the Philadelphia Inquirer:
Listen. What you are about to hear is the sound of John McCain flip-flopping his position on one of America's most cherished ideals.

A top McCain advisor says the Republican presidential candidate agrees with President Bush's outrageous program of wiretapping Americans' overseas conversations without warrants.

McCain previously had been critical of the Bush administration's unilateral decision, following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, to let the National Security Agency eavesdrop on untold numbers of citizens.

Before, McCain talked of the need for presidents to obey the law, just as other Americans must do.

But now he suggests that a McCain White House would pursue the same unchecked spy powers as Bush.

His flip-flop isn't as significant as the fact that McCain has gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick.



In 2008, it is not the economy stupid, no matter what CNN tells you otherwise

30488. jexster - 6/14/2008 3:44:45 PM

Obama to Cut Taxes for Middle Class America

Lies have consequences

What he DOESN'T tell you is that the IRS will be administering an IQ test in order to qualify and eliminate morons, liars and other concerned wackos

30489. jexster - 6/14/2008 6:21:17 PM

Voter Registration Drive Swamps Lousiana Registrar
Beaucoup Nigrahs sign up to vote

30490. jexster - 6/14/2008 6:35:09 PM

We don't like your kind

WASHINGTON - Black conservative talk show host Armstrong Williams has never voted for a Democrat for president. That could change this year with Barack Obama as the Democratic Party's nominee.

"I don't necessarily like his policies; I don't like much that he advocates, but for the first time in my life, history thrusts me to really seriously think about it," Williams said. "I can honestly say I have no idea who I'm going to pull that lever for in November. And to me, that's incredible."

Just as Obama has touched black Democratic voters, he has engendered conflicting emotions among black Republicans. They revel over the possibility of a black president but wrestle with the thought that the Illinois senator doesn't sit beside them ideologically.

"Among black conservatives," Williams said, "they tell me privately, it would be very hard to vote against him in November."


Any big plans for Juneteenth Robert?

30491. jexster - 6/14/2008 7:07:55 PM

My kinda Texican!

McCain Says No to Returning Funds Raised by Controversial Oilman

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) will not return the $300,000 raised by a Texas Republican who joked in 1990 that women should submit to rape and "enjoy it."

Yesterday McCain cancelled a fundraiser that Texas oilman Clayton Williams was planning to hold at his Midland, Tex. home on Monday, after The Washington Post and ABC News questioned what the senator thought of Williams' remarks that women should give in while being raped. "As long as it's inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it," he said during his unsuccessful bid for governor against the late Ann Richards.

Williams, who told the Midland Reporter-Telegram that he had already raised $300,000 for the presumptive GOP nominee, also said at the time that when it came to campaigning against Richards, he would "head her and hoof her and drag her through the dirt" like a cow on his ranch.

30492. jexster - 6/14/2008 8:13:14 PM

Arky if they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun Sean Connery O'Bama

Peoples' Nasty Boat Songbird People for Truth - On Patrol

30493. jexster - 6/14/2008 8:16:21 PM

The Chicago Way

30494. wonkers2 - 6/15/2008 8:57:46 AM

Obama-Fox cartoon

30495. jexster - 6/15/2008 11:43:30 AM

Newt wants the Exorcist of MacacaLand

30496. jexster - 6/15/2008 11:48:35 AM

Historians Agree With Ed Rendell

Historians belonging to both parties offered a litany of historical comparisons that give little hope to the Republican. Several saw Barack Obama’s prospects as the most promising for a Democrat since Roosevelt trounced Hoover in 1932.

“This should be an overwhelming Democratic victory,” said Allan Lichtman, an American University presidential historian who ran in a Maryland Democratic senatorial primary in 2006. Lichtman, whose forecasting model has correctly predicted the last six presidential popular vote winners, predicts that this year, “Republicans face what have always been insurmountable historical odds.” His system gives McCain a score on par with Jimmy Carter’s in 1980.

O! Be Da Greatiss!

30497. jexster - 6/15/2008 1:43:53 PM

In the French imagination, Barack Obama is already the president

30498. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/15/2008 1:44:55 PM

Happy Father's Day!

30499. robertjayb - 6/15/2008 2:25:35 PM

He's baaaack....

Ross Perot is the father of fiscal charts. PerotCharts.com will help Americans understand the serious fiscal challenges facing our nation. These new electronic charts will also serve to hold elected officials accountable while accelerating needed actions to help ensure that our collective future will be better than our past.

30500. jexster - 6/15/2008 2:40:24 PM

I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was.


O! Fights Midwest Floods

30501. jexster - 6/15/2008 2:43:33 PM

JuneTeenth Proclamation
June 19, 1865

The people of Texas are informed that, in accordance with a proclamation from the Executive of the United States, all slaves are free. This involves an absolute equality of personal rights and rights of property between former masters and slaves, and the connection heretofore existing between them becomes that between employer and hired labor. The freedmen are advised to remain quietly at their present homes and work for wages. They are informed that they will not be allowed to collect at military posts and that they will not be supported in idleness either there or elsewhere.

30502. arkymalarky - 6/15/2008 3:27:26 PM

The nagging worry I have is that Obama may lose because he is black. I would scold myself into having more faith in the country than that, but look at the president we've had for the past 8 years. People have to hurt pretty badly to vote their best interests over their fears and prejudices. Hillary would have faced a similar probem, but since women make up a majority of the electorate she'd have had a better chance of overcoming it, and her problem would be the energized GOP base and Bill. And when I worry about racial prejudice, btw, I'm not talking about the far right or the evangelicals. I'm talking about "Reagan Democrats," whatever they are, many of whom voted in the Democratic primaries.

30503. arkymalarky - 6/15/2008 3:28:44 PM

And older Americans.

30504. robertjayb - 6/15/2008 4:01:35 PM

Friend Joan from Wisconsin says "Vote for the white half."

30505. jexster - 6/15/2008 6:11:42 PM

Planning a lukefist feast for Juneteenth are ya?

30506. jexster - 6/15/2008 6:14:20 PM

MSNBC breaking..he's still dead


So why don't they stop showing the Holy Empty Chair? I miss my Sunday To Catch a Predator dammit

30507. arkymalarky - 6/15/2008 6:18:53 PM

It disappoints me to see AR as not in play for him, as Democratic as we've become. There's only one reason for that. And bunches of people here think he's Muslim, and I believe--considering Thoughtful's question the other day--that their argument is a completely emotional mark they place in the position of their own racism, which they themselves don't believe they have. There's a strong undercurrent of racism, even in integrated parts of the state.

30508. arkymalarky - 6/15/2008 6:22:18 PM

The Tim Russert coverage has been getting to me. He'd bug me like all the talking heads with some of his questions or some I thought he should have asked, but I think he was a great guy, and among them all he was the best, imo. I can't imagine who they'll get to replace him, and none of the Sunday shows are as good as MTP, imo. I hate it took his death to get their weekend sicko-crap lineup off the air.

30509. jexster - 6/15/2008 6:35:22 PM

I hate that their weekend lockup lineup is down too!

Speaking of old school bitches...Cindy McCain owes at least $225,000 on her credit cards,@ 25.99 interest rate,

McDaddy needs to head her and hoof her and drag her through the dirt if you ask me

30510. jexster - 6/15/2008 6:59:44 PM

Exorcist Excoriates GOP
Party Drifting from Core Values - Jindal

30511. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/15/2008 9:26:58 PM

What If Dems Fought Back Against Corporate Media Shills Like Tim Russert?

30512. robertjayb - 6/15/2008 9:57:33 PM

Russert may have been a fun guy and a good pal but he was no more a journalist than Stephanopoulis and Matthews. They are thouroughly mobbed-up apparatchiks of the Washington establishment.

Russert's technique of springing long-ago statements on his "guests" with an a-ha smirk may have been entertaining but of dubious value in obtaining useful information.

His supposed charms escaped me.

30513. wonkers2 - 6/15/2008 11:56:25 PM

Amen. Very true. I never cared for Tim Russert. The really good journalists like Chris Hedges or Norman Soloman never make it to the big time on television.

30514. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/16/2008 12:57:52 AM

If there's one thing that sends me up the wall, it's a Jesuit-trained arrogant Catholic hypocrite. The lapel pin incident at the Bush/Gore debate showed his true colors. Just another GOP (Greedy Old People) puppet and yet, I wish I had the forbearance not to speak ill of the dead.

30515. jexster - 6/16/2008 11:56:12 AM

Turned into a hot little plantano!
Thank God he's free!

Elian's grown nicely in his native soil




Cuban young militant Elian Gonzalez delivers a speech during an event marking the 80th anniversary of the birth of the Cuban National hero, Argentinean Ernesto 'Che' Guevara in Havana, Saturday, June 14, 2008.

30516. jexster - 6/16/2008 12:09:42 PM

Wassamatta wit Kansas?

Nevada for that matter


KS-Pres
June 16 Rasmussen
McCain (R) 47%, Obama (D) 37%

NV-Pres
June 15 Mason-Dixon
McCain (R) 44%, Obama (D) 42%

30517. jexster - 6/16/2008 12:15:08 PM

McMentum08 Campaign in High Gear

Don't forget to vote in this week's round MSNBC Veepstakes

A new McCain web ad ...


--Josh Marshall



Love the Obama color scheme!

30518. jexster - 6/16/2008 12:19:13 PM

I think we're lookin at a front runner...Long shot no more!


McMENTUM 08!!!!!!!!!!!

McMentum now and McMentum forever

30519. jexster - 6/16/2008 12:56:35 PM

Bushie In Charge of Vote Suppression Referred to Grand Jury for Disposition

30520. jexster - 6/16/2008 1:01:38 PM

Immmanuel Wallerstein is God!

The Great One on Obama from a private email list


Obama has won big. His election will mark - mark, not cause - the end of the counterrevolution of the world right of the 1980s. He has rekindled hope, and created space for a more progressive world. But this space is structurally cramped by the constraints of an ever more anarchic world-system. The basic question is not whether he will transform the world and/or restore U.S. leadership in the world-system - he will do neither - but whether he will do as much as it is possible to do in allowing us all to push our way forward. Even if this is less than the world might wish he could do.

30521. jexster - 6/16/2008 1:06:25 PM

I have just done an analysis comparing McCain's state by state strength in the latest polls and Bush's proportion of the actual votes in 2004. In 45 of the 50 states, McCain is weaker, often much weaker, than Bush was. And in the other five, he is about the same. Of course, if Bush had won a state by a large margin, McCain will still win it albeit by a smaller one. But in the states that were close in 2004, the tide is in Obama's favor.

Furthermore, we have to realize that McCain is currently at the top of his strength. The Democratic Party is now reunifying and hungry for winning. Obama will lose almost none of the traditional Democratic percentages among women and Jews. He will increase the national percentage among Latinos and will bring in a very large number of young people and African-Americans who otherwise would not have voted. He will also get the votes of the considerable number of independents and Republicans disillusioned with Bush. The people who will vote against Obama because he is African-American were almost all already going to vote Republican. This issue is behind him, not in front of him.

The Republicans, on the other hand, are still deeply divided and quite morose.

30522. jexster - 6/16/2008 1:19:06 PM

Nothing but net
Clinton Campaign Manager to be COS to O-Veep

30523. jexster - 6/16/2008 3:05:29 PM

GO!re to Appear with O! in Deetroit 2nite

30524. jexster - 6/16/2008 3:10:31 PM

Fags Feature Prominently in Expanded O! Staff

30525. jexster - 6/16/2008 4:05:34 PM

Evangelical Bush Backers PrO!Bama book

30526. jexster - 6/16/2008 4:09:24 PM

Headed for a WalMart near Robert this summer!

30527. jexster - 6/16/2008 6:24:55 PM

Two most recent polls give O! a slight lead in Virginia


Wait til they find out he's colored Arky!

30528. jexster - 6/16/2008 8:10:38 PM

This is why the fuck not Robt

30529. jexster - 6/16/2008 8:57:15 PM

Bargain basement

What the (Y$%*#$@$?
Osama, Ng..what's the world coming to?

Evening with Maya Soetoro-Ng, Barack's Sister (Fundraising)

We invite you to an evening with DR. MAYA SOETORO-NG, Sen. Barack Obama's sister, on Wednesday, June 18, from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m., at Roe Restaurant 651 Howard Street, San Francisco. $25 donation. Event Co-Sponsored by AAPIs, South Asians, Latinos and LGBT for Obama

Event Host: Keith Kamisugi

30530. jexster - 6/16/2008 8:58:07 PM

Grizzly Granholm's flailing about as we await the Arrival of Al and Hussein

30531. jexster - 6/16/2008 9:06:31 PM

Al Gore
Nobel Laureate
Citizen of the World!

30532. jexster - 6/16/2008 9:48:06 PM

Under John McBush's tax scam
Exxon-Mobil gets 1.2 billion tax cut

30533. jexster - 6/16/2008 9:48:56 PM

about 4 days in Iraq

30534. jexster - 6/16/2008 10:05:21 PM

30535. concerned - 6/16/2008 10:13:49 PM

So, Now It's "Bush Didn't Lie"

Which is a major reason that I have mostly stayed away from the 'Lies Have Consequences' thread, because it is preeminently a meeting ground of the Mote Ignorami where deception is spread.

30536. concerned - 6/16/2008 10:17:41 PM

....the Los Angeles Times decides to shock the world…

Bush never lied to us about Iraq

That has always been so self evidently true that only a liar and/or a moron would maintain differently.

30537. concerned - 6/16/2008 10:37:59 PM

Thank God he's free!

Elian's grown nicely in his native soil

Into a brainwashed apparatchik. Consider the source of this drivel. rejexst probably prefers the Union of Young Communists to the Boy Scouts and Disney World, anyway.

30538. concerned - 6/16/2008 10:42:12 PM

I remember when Xlowntoon and Stooge Reno publicly put their reputations on the line that the Elian Gonzalez case was only a matter of a child who "belongs with his father," while rejecting any possibility of his becoming a communist dictator's tool.

Idiots.

30539. concerned - 6/16/2008 10:50:49 PM

Maybe Sinclair and Obama can settle their differences with a purse fight in a darkened room.

30540. concerned - 6/16/2008 10:55:31 PM

"Now you listen to me, faggot. I’m going to kill you, your lawyer and your whore mother. I live in the DC area and you better believe I’m going to gain access to this event. I’m not going to tell you how you will die. It could be an assassin’s bullet, vehicle explosion, food poisoning. All you need to know is that your faggot a** is going to die. And I’m going to get away with it too. The only way you can save yourself is by calling off this meeting and ending your smear attacks on Senator Barack Obama."

-jexsteraldo123432

30541. concerned - 6/16/2008 10:56:33 PM

This guy just effectively called Hussein a faggot.

30542. concerned - 6/16/2008 11:16:29 PM

Obama's letters for Rezko = Favors

These two were clearly scratching each others' backs for at least the last decade. Doesn't seem right that only one should go to prison.

30543. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/17/2008 12:07:17 AM

30544. alistairconnor - 6/17/2008 5:02:26 AM

Is McCain Like Bush? Depends on the Issue

Notice how the press are increasingly using the code-word "Depends" when referring to McCain?

Ageist bastards.

30545. jexster - 6/17/2008 10:52:45 AM

Another Day, Another Lie

30536. concerned - 6/17/2008 3:17:41 AM

....the Los Angeles Times decides to shock the world…

Bush never lied to us about Iraq

That has always been so self evidently true that only a liar and/or a moron would maintain differently.

30546. jexster - 6/17/2008 10:53:08 AM

The JewRepublic

30547. jexster - 6/17/2008 10:54:20 AM

This guy just effectively called Hussein a faggot.

Must be true

30548. jexster - 6/17/2008 10:54:21 AM

This guy just effectively called Hussein a faggot.

Must be true

30549. jexster - 6/17/2008 11:01:52 AM

30550. jexster - 6/17/2008 11:05:26 AM

30551. jexster - 6/17/2008 11:09:50 AM

I'd swear that he's coping a booty squeeze. That Ho Grizzly Granholm

30552. jexster - 6/17/2008 11:14:08 AM

TortureGate: Investigation Shows Bush Lied Again

The reported evidence -- some of which is expected to be made public at a Senate hearing today -- also shows that military lawyers raised strong concerns about the legality of the practices as early as November 2002, a month before Rumsfeld approved them. The findings contradict previous accounts by top Bush administration appointees, setting the stage for new clashes between the White House and Congress over the origins of interrogation methods that many lawmakers regard as torture and possibly illegal.

30553. jexster - 6/17/2008 11:32:00 AM

Even discounting this as a candidate poll, w/ this result out of LA we can declare the J. Bennett Johnston Senate Seat safe together with every democrat up for re-election this cycle.


As things stand today of course. Who know people might start believing that Bush didn't lie. His approval may shoot beyond the current 29% and might even pass Jimmy Carter at 57%

Mellman Group (D-Landrieu)
Louisiana Landrieu (D-i) 49, Kennedy (R) 33...

Pigs might fly

30554. jexster - 6/17/2008 11:33:34 AM

WaPo


CommieMuzzieNiggerFag 48
McFossil 42

30555. jexster - 6/17/2008 11:37:51 AM

The Cost of McBush Crony Capitalism just keeps going up and up these days. It's already estimated to have cost the US taxpayer 26 billion. In today's New York Times, we learnn how McCheney's KBR ripped off the army - Don't like our rates, do it yourself

30556. jexster - 6/17/2008 11:43:09 AM

O! HOlds GinOrmOus Lead in O!hiO!


Wait til they find out the Sheriff is a fag!

30557. Wombat - 6/17/2008 11:46:35 AM

Unhinged (post 30536):

Do you (or the blogger you link to) know the difference between newspaper reportage, a newspaper's editorial (both attributable to the newspaper), and an op-ed (in this case written by an apologist for the Iraq War)? You see, the latter has no affiliation with the newspaper, other than that the newspaper chooses to print it.

So a more accurate description of the piece would be: James Kirchick says that Bush Never Lied About Iraq, which is rather different. I am amazed that someone with your precocious intelligence and vast attainments in the field of electronics and IT is too stupid (or intellectually dishonest) to know the difference.

30558. jexster - 6/17/2008 11:51:36 AM

I'm Voting Republican Because...

30559. jexster - 6/17/2008 12:01:05 PM

30557 - You forgot Geography

30560. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/17/2008 12:03:16 PM

Superb!

30561. jexster - 6/17/2008 12:22:54 PM

The McSame as Bush - User Friendly Graphic Comparison (NyT)

30562. jexster - 6/17/2008 1:04:42 PM

The kinda town that never lets you down...

Obama returns Chicago to center stage


The third-largest city is no longer taking a backseat to New York, Los Angeles, John Kerry’s Boston, Al Gore’s Nashville and Bill Clinton’s Little Rock.


Time to start doing Republicans the Chicago Way

30563. jexster - 6/17/2008 1:14:08 PM

30554...


Republicans Complain That Dems Are Talking About McFossil's Age in Code

Not me

30564. jexster - 6/17/2008 1:42:08 PM

Having opened a double digit lead in the Buckeye State without Hillary, Time magazine asks Can Georgia Become Obama's Ohio?


Not if they find out he's colored

30565. arkymalarky - 6/17/2008 1:58:18 PM

Hell, Jex, you don't do anything in code.

30566. jexster - 6/17/2008 3:16:00 PM

Deep in the Heart O Tejas!


Republican Outreach

On sale at the Texas GOP state convention this weekend.

30567. jexster - 6/17/2008 3:24:30 PM

Yup..still dead

M.J. Rosenberg


-

I don't get it.
I'm not going to lie. I felt terrible when I heard the news but only because he was someone I "knew" from television, because he seemed like a lovely man, and because I felt for his wife, son, and father. I still feel "shocked."
But that's it.
So tell me, why is thing being covered this way? How is it that the media barely notices 4,000 American (and 100,000 Iraqi) dead in the war but goes insane over this? Aren't thousands of dead and maimed kids (soldiers and children) infinitely worse, especially when the war is a fraud, engineered by lies and liars?

30568. concerned - 6/17/2008 3:35:48 PM

Re. 30557 -

Lowing myself to your gutter level, I'll refer to you as 'Deranged'.

Why do you withhold criticism of the widespread campaign of Left Wing lies and criticism regarding the War in Iraq and instead snipe at an honest blogger who is upset by those lies because your interpretation is slightly different than his? Where's your honesty? Where's your integrity? Where's your sense of perspective? If you have them, you certainly are not showing them.

And why don't you learn from experience, Deranged? You have been so antipodally, abysmally wrong about virtually every personal comment you have made about me in the past, including, recently, the ones about 'critical thinking'. it seems cheap ad hominems are your poor substitute for 'critical thought'.

30569. concerned - 6/17/2008 3:37:01 PM

Re. 30557 -

Lowering myself to your gutter level, I'll refer to you as 'Deranged'.

Why do you withhold criticism of the widespread campaign of Left Wing lies and criticism regarding the War in Iraq and instead snipe at an honest blogger who is upset by those lies because your interpretation is slightly different than his? Where's your honesty? Where's your integrity? Where's your sense of perspective? If you have them, you certainly are not showing them.

And why don't you learn from experience, Deranged? You have been so antipodally, abysmally wrong about virtually every personal comment you have made about me in the past, including, recently, the ones about 'critical thinking'. it seems cheap ad hominems are your poor substitute for 'critical thought'.

30570. jexster - 6/17/2008 3:50:11 PM

We've an entire thread for the lies of George W. Bush and Concerned went and told a lie about the lies


How fitting

30571. jexster - 6/17/2008 3:54:14 PM

TD better run a supply of those GOP outreach buttons up from TX to Kentucky



McSameAsBush
53% to
CommieFagBlackMuzzie 41%.

30572. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/17/2008 3:56:56 PM

Allow Sherffius to illustrate . . .

30573. jexster - 6/17/2008 4:10:37 PM

POLL: Civitas North Carolina

Civitas Institute (Republican pollster)
Tel Opinion Research

North Carolina
McCain 45, Obama 41, Barr 2

30574. jexster - 6/17/2008 4:12:52 PM

Need GOP Nigrah Buttons in North Carolina STAT

POLL: Civitas North Carolina

Civitas Institute (Republican pollster)
Tel Opinion Research

North Carolina
McCain 45, Obama 41, Barr 2

30575. jexster - 6/17/2008 4:15:49 PM

TD needs to tell the truth for a change

I need a man for a change..Before the GOP NightRiders comes gits me

30576. jexster - 6/17/2008 4:34:57 PM

Thanks to President Jimmy Carter, Hamas has announced a truce with Israel in Gaza and the pending return of Cpl Gilad Shalit to his parents.

No thanks to Cunnilingus Rice who is in Lebanon surrendering to Hizbollah much less to McSameAsGWB who told Pollack jokes to the Knesset


Small wonder Bush's approval = 28%
Carter = 57%

My only question is - Are there really that many imbeciles in the Good Ole USA?

30577. jexster - 6/17/2008 4:37:22 PM

Ready to Bring Balm to Gilead on the Steps of SF City Hall!



McBush Lies Have Consequences - 6 Wars, 11 Defeats

30578. concerned - 6/17/2008 4:50:44 PM

Is it a 'war', or 'six wars' if it exists only in rejexst's head?

No. Sorry, rejexst. You are outvoted by the rest of the world.

But since you're a nutcase, that won't stop you from lying.

30579. jexster - 6/17/2008 5:05:00 PM

Privatize This

How O'Bama Can Win Over Seniors and Turn '08 N2 a Landslide

30580. jexster - 6/17/2008 5:05:30 PM

If it's a war, McBush lost it

30581. concerned - 6/17/2008 5:17:54 PM

Re. 30580 -

Lost nothing, that is. Last I checked, we're still in Iraq, American deaths down to 19 in May 2008, the Iraqi government is growing more powerful by the day, Sunnis and Shiites are giving Democracy a real change & your boy Porky al Sadr has withdrawn from the struggle.

As the AP (hardly partial to any Republican US administration) admits:

BAGHDAD - Signs are emerging that Iraq has reached a turning point. Violence is down, armed extremists are in disarray, government confidence is rising and sectarian communities are gearing up for a battle at the polls rather than slaughter in the streets.

With all due respect, rejexst, you're fucked in the head regarding Iraq. And, btw, McCain is not elected yet.

30582. concerned - 6/17/2008 5:18:19 PM

...a real chance...

30583. wonkers2 - 6/17/2008 5:49:54 PM

Only 19 GIs killed? What a bargain! How many Iraqis and miscellaneous others? I guess they don't count.

30584. concerned - 6/17/2008 6:04:35 PM

Re. 30583 -

Sorta makes you wish for the good ol' days of Vietnam, doesn't it? Your Democrat prez LBJ used to laugh at 2,000 US and maybe 50,000 Vietnamese deaths a month.

These 'miscellaneous others' surely didn't appear to count for you Democrats in Vietnam - what do you have to say to that?

30585. concerned - 6/17/2008 6:08:47 PM

Here's some miscellaneous others who also don't count for Democrats: the 40,000,000 people worldwide who have died from AIDS due ultimately to negligent US health policy in the '80's and '90's.

30586. concerned - 6/17/2008 6:10:00 PM

Damn! You Lefties are the most genocidal bunch in history.

30587. Wombat - 6/17/2008 6:18:16 PM

Unhinged:

Do you know what "ad hominem" even means? Here is an example: "If Unhinged was any smarter, he would be a partisan hack."

It is not an ad hominem attack to question your intelligence and/or intellectual honesty for posting an op-ed quoted by a blogger who claims that the LA Times now admits it is wrong. Jamie Kirchik is not an LA Times reporter, nor is he a member of the LA Times editorial board. This is not a "different interpretation," it is a matter of fact. The piece is Jamie Kirchick's opinion, not the LA Times'. Since my questioning of your intelligence and/or intellectual honesty is based on this "fact" it cannot be considered an ad hominem attack. I also fail to see why you get offended by my continuing to cite your proclaimed intelligence and expertise.

I know you feel the need to cherry-pick anything that might "prove" that the Iraq War has been anything but a long-running and counterproductive drain on our military, the GWOT, and our economy, not to mention a disaster for Iraq. It is too bad that your critical faculties are so woefully lacking, even when attempting to buttress your "case."

30588. Wombat - 6/17/2008 6:36:38 PM

Unhinged:

It would be an ad homenem attack to say something like: "if Concerned was any smarter, he'd be a partisan hack."

Questioning your intelligence/integrity on the basis of fact, is by definition not ad hominem. The blogger that you cited approvingly stated that the LA Times had changed its mind about Iraq, and gave an Op-Ed piece by Jamie Kirchick as evidence. Since Jamie Kirchick is not a reporter for the LA Times, and is not a member of the LA Times editorial board, all that can be said is that in Jamie Kirchick's opinion--as printed on the LA Times op-ed page--Bush did not "lie us into war," a contention that is at least debatable. Do you see the difference? It is not a matter of interpretation, as you claim.

It is pathetic, really, to have to stoop to this kind of desperate cherry-picking to justify a war that has become a serious strain to our military, an obstacle to successfully prosecuting the GWOT, and a drain on our economy, not to mention a disaster for Iraq.

30589. Wombat - 6/17/2008 6:37:18 PM

Sorry about the redundant post...

30590. arkymalarky - 6/17/2008 6:44:01 PM

Redundant posts are no issue in this thread.

30591. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:02:09 PM

Last I checked, we're still in Iraq

Five years after McBush accomplished his mission.

We've a thread for Iraq too

Too bad you don't go there

BAGHDAD — A car bomb set to explode during the busiest time of day killed at least 51 people and wounded 75 Tuesday evening as shoppers were strolling through a Shiite neighborhood market in Baghdad. It was the deadliest attack in the Iraqi capital in more than three months.

30592. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:09:19 PM

Plenty of information on Muqtada there

Afghanistan and the War on Pakistan (that's the 6th war, 11th defeat) in International


Jimmy Carter accomplished more in one week than Bush has in 8 years....not bad


No wonder a whopping 84% of Americans think that McBush have this country on the wrong track eh?

30593. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:18:27 PM

Obama: GOP "engineered" Iraq Instead of Hunting Down 9/11 Terrorists

That's the Chicago Way

30594. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:27:37 PM

Global Warming
McShame Dumps Bush Under Melting Ice Cap

30595. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:32:13 PM

Hey Deranged, regarding the following spew:

It is not an ad hominem attack to question your intelligence and/or intellectual honesty for posting an op-ed quoted by a blogger who claims that the LA Times now admits it is wrong.

Wiktionary says:

ad hominem (ad hominems) (noun)

1) a logical fallacy, arguing that an idea or concept is wrong because its proponent (advocate or spokesperson) is flawed
2)an attempt to argue against an opponent's idea by discrediting the opponent himself
3)a personal attack

Why don't you try arguing against the idea instead of attempting to change the subject by attacking the messenger? Not that I would expect that of a deranged moron like yourself.

30596. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:36:35 PM

6 Wars
11 Defeats

Obama Slams McBush on National Insecurity

"Let's think about this: these are the same guys who helped engineer the distraction of the war in Iraq at a time when we could have pinned down the people who actually committed 9-11," Obama told reporters on his campaign plane...

"What they're trying to do us what they've done every election cycle, which is to use terrorism as a club to make the American people afraid," Obama said.



Reminded that the Republican playbook worked in the 2004 presidential race, Obama countered: "Well, it's 2008."

"I'm looking forward to having a robust argument about this issue," he said. "I don't shy away from it."

30597. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:38:09 PM

Re. 30596 -

More lies from the demagoguing race baiting Hussein. Is he really so stupid as to believe his bullshit?

30598. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:39:15 PM

"I'm looking forward to having a robust argument about this issue," he said. "I don't shy away from it."

He's going to get his lying ass handed to him by McCain in any debate.

30599. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:39:24 PM

Better get some of those GOP buttons to KY

GOP Senate Leader in Dead Heat for Re-election


Then tell us tales of Martin Luther King as a republican while your white sheets are in the washer

30600. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/17/2008 7:39:31 PM

30601. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:40:20 PM

Jexster is afraid to admit the truty. All white sheetheads are Lefties.

30602. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:40:45 PM

Jexster is afraid to admit the truth. All white sheetheads are Lefties.

30603. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:41:14 PM

Straight Talk for the Double Talk Express: Privatizing SocSec

30604. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:41:57 PM

Maybe Hussein could debate how many states he believes the US has. That might even show that he's making progress.

30605. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:43:11 PM

Would you send some of those buttons FED EX?

Thurday's Juneteenth and there's an Obama event here

30606. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:43:14 PM

Or maybe Hussein can explain in detail to us how his (great) uncle who was in the US Navy liberated Auschwitz.

Otherwise, he would be wasting everybody's time.

30607. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:45:06 PM

Dallas Morning News: Racist Buttons a Hit at TX GOP Convention

30608. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:50:39 PM

Re. 30607 -

No reason a Democrat can't sell that crap at whatever convention he wants to. It's rejexst's favorite, don't you know.

30609. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:51:38 PM

O's Uncle Liberated Buchenwald while in the Army


Sheesh....how many times can you tell the same lies...then lie about the lies


Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive

30610. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:52:31 PM

That's why they sell em at GOP conventions

I need a few by Thursday

Make URself useful

30611. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:52:44 PM

It's not half as racist as the crap that rejexst spews here here every day. And Mote Lefties are loving his racist BS, behavior expected from moronic hypocrites.

30612. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:53:01 PM

Re. 30610 -

You mean 'try to sell'.

30613. concerned - 6/17/2008 7:55:00 PM

Maybe I should come up with some disgusting bumper stickers, buttons, etc. and sell them at Democrat conventions, then make sure the national media hears about it so everybody knows what racist hate-mongerers Democrats are.

30614. jexster - 6/17/2008 7:59:10 PM

My bad.

The convention was in Houston at the George R. Brown Center.


Robert, would you be so kind? Mosey on down and picks me up a gross....


Juneteenth is a state holiday here as well

30615. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:01:23 PM

Too many negroes in MS 1 I guess

GOP House Candidate Tried to Move KKK Statue to His Hometown

30616. concerned - 6/17/2008 8:02:37 PM

Leftwingers' perpetual weakness for guilt by association is fostered by their kneejerk PC groupthink.

30617. concerned - 6/17/2008 8:03:20 PM

KKK - wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party.

30618. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:04:33 PM

30619. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:05:31 PM

I wonder why the good colored folk of MS don't vote for Republicans

30620. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:11:20 PM

If it was a long black snake....


Texas GOP Disavows Knowledge Of Racist Anti-Obama Button
By Greg Sargent and Eric Kleefeld - June 17, 2008, 3:39PM

We just got off the phone with a Texas Republican Party official, who tells us that the party had absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about this tasteful button that was for sale at this past weekend's state GOP convention:



The button, which was flagged by AmericaBlog, was sold at a booth run by RepublicanMarket.com, a business that sells a lot of red-meat buttons, bumper stickers and other paraphernalia for GOP voters.

So did party officials know about this button being sold all weekend at their convention? In an interview with Election Central, Texas GOP political director Hans Klingler answered with an emphatic No. "We had hundreds of vendors at the convention," Klingler said. "I don't know what the merchandise is, we don't check the merchandise."

Klingler added that the party would have done something if it had been brought to their attention at the time. "We wouldn't have let him sell it."

Hmmm. This button seems like the sort of thing that would have been hard to miss, doesn't it?

30621. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:12:50 PM

Maybe I should come up with some disgusting bumper stickers, buttons, etc. and sell them at Democrat conventions

There's an idea. Send TD to Denver with a selection of buttons from RepublicanMarketing.com to Denver!


Let's take up a collection...inventory, airfare, DaysInn the whole 9 yards

30622. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:16:10 PM

"Patriotic and Republican Products at Republican Market.com"

My personal favorite

30623. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:21:29 PM

Another hot seller

30624. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:28:01 PM

Contempt Of Courts

McSame's Posturing On Guantanamo


By George F. Will

30625. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:31:24 PM

The FlipFlop Express


Put Your Right Wing In, Take Your Left Wing Out
If John McCain keeps dancing like this, he's liable to break a hip.

30626. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:31:58 PM

"Break a hip"

I call
CODE
CODE VIOLATION!!!!!

30627. jexster - 6/17/2008 8:33:42 PM

At least he won't drill in ANWR....for now

30628. jexster - 6/17/2008 9:36:31 PM

Great panel discussion in July Harpers' featuring Kevin Phillips and The American Conservative's Scott McConnell


High Noon for the Republican Party - Why the GOP Must Die


Literally. The discussion is about how to send it the way of the Whigs

30629. jexster - 6/17/2008 9:47:30 PM

Avail on request

George Washingtont,t he United States' first and last unaffiliated president, warned that political parties, should they take root in the new republic, would make government "the mirror of the ill, concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans."
Parties sprang up immediately, of course, but for many
years they were short, lived, forming and collapsing according to a natural life cycle. No longer. Our current
two-party system has become a shadow constitution,
based largely on a system of legal bribery, that makes a
mockery of the founders' republican intentions.
Increasingly it seems that the political parties them,
selves are among the greatest obstacles to civic renewal.
Eight years of Republican rule have led to economic
chaos, ruinous war, and unprecedented despair. Every
electoral indicator points to a massive defeat. Yet few be,
lieve that the Democratic Party possessesthe strength of
purpose to drive the Republicans into the well-deserved
oblivion of the Anti-Masons and the Know-Nothings.
Mindful of the Democrats' shortcomings, Harper's Magazine gathered together a panel of political thinkers
to consider how the deed might be accomplished, and
what might be the consequences of failure.

30630. jexster - 6/17/2008 10:01:01 PM

“You are amazed sometimes at how deep the lies can be,

Obviously she doesn't know Concerned....I count five whoppers just today


Michelle Obama - Ready for Her Closeup

30631. jexster - 6/17/2008 10:09:08 PM

Lies Have Consequences

Randy Scheunemann: McCain Adviser Campaigned for War

30632. jexster - 6/17/2008 10:11:45 PM

Ooops

Correct Link

Who cares whether the ching chang chong people are fascinated with Obama's skin color?

(I'd have thought they'd be fascinated by his SIZE if you catch my drift)

30633. concerned - 6/18/2008 12:36:16 AM

30634. concerned - 6/18/2008 12:37:27 AM

Re. 30632 -

You think the US has recently been in five wars, too. Better have your medication adjusted.

30635. jexster - 6/18/2008 5:29:14 AM

Another PC Code Violation

Addled
McCain again forgets what his own policy is -- this time on cap and trade.

--Josh Marshall

30636. jexster - 6/18/2008 5:42:09 AM

30637. jexster - 6/18/2008 5:43:39 AM

You think the US has recently been in five wars, too. Better have your medication adjusted.



6

1. Iraq
2. Lebanon
3. Somalia
4. Afghanistan
5. Terror
6. Pakistan

30638. iiibbb - 6/18/2008 9:18:08 AM

The Republicans should feel a little in trouble when the most support George Will gives them is that he understand Robert's impatience with a vague decision, but doesn't denounce the core of that decision.

The article is about Habeas Corpus.

30639. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/18/2008 11:19:29 AM

30640. jexster - 6/18/2008 11:44:57 AM

Obama Names Roemer to National Security Working Group

Along with 39 others

30641. jexster - 6/18/2008 11:51:12 AM

Florida Obama (D) 47%, McCain (R) 43%

Ohio Obama (D) 48%, McCain (R) 42%

Virginia Obama (D) 47%, McCain (R) 45%

Wisconsin Obama (D) 52%, McCain (R) 43%

Pennsylvania Obama (D) 52%, McCain (R) 40%

30642. jexster - 6/18/2008 11:59:23 AM

A Rap Sheet As Long as Your Arm...


WANTED: GOP Slime Devil Larry Sinclair
Contact the Pueblo County CO Crime Stoppers

30643. jexster - 6/18/2008 12:06:19 PM

Feel the Mentum in My Loins!

A McCain-Lieberman ticket?
Joe-mentum slants too far right for Democrats, but it would (believe it or not) move the Republicans toward the center.

30644. jexster - 6/18/2008 12:16:04 PM

Lieberman Skips Senate Dems' Strategy Meeting
By Eric Kleefeld - June 18, 2008, 9:05AM

Joe Lieberman's support of John McCain is starting to generate some readily apparent conflicts with his participation in the Democratic caucus. When Barack Obama's top strategist David Axelrod briefed the Senate Dems' weekly policy lunch yesterday, Lieberman skipped the meeting.

"It was my decision," Lieberman said. "I thought it would be awkward for everybody."

This begs the question: Will he start attending the Republicans' policy meetings?

30645. jexster - 6/18/2008 12:17:04 PM

The happy couple

30646. jexster - 6/18/2008 12:20:33 PM

You can tell the grandkids....The Mentum Movement began at the Mote

30647. jexster - 6/18/2008 12:54:51 PM

Needs Mentum BAD

Poll Tracker

*
AK-Pres
June 18 Rasmussen
McCain (R) 45%, Obama (D) 41%
*
ME-Pres
June 18 Rasmussen
Obama (D) 55%, McCain (R) 33%

30648. jexster - 6/18/2008 3:08:26 PM

The recent spate of state polling is most def good news...something's happenin out there now that we're rid of the Clintons


ARG

New Hampshire
Obama 51, McCain 39

Florida
Obama 49, McCain 44

30649. jexster - 6/18/2008 3:17:15 PM

Turning Points -
How McBush Has Won the Pointless War on Iraq Again and Again and Again

30650. jexster - 6/18/2008 3:29:32 PM

McSame Unleashes Furious National Security Attack
Rolls Out the Big Boobs

She's baaaaaack....

30651. jexster - 6/18/2008 3:45:48 PM

The Crony Capital Express

McShame and his gang of K St Lobbyists sold out America....

AGAIN

But did he have to sell out to the French?


GAO Backs Boeing on McShame Tanker Deal

30652. jexster - 6/18/2008 3:54:44 PM

The Chicago Way

Joe Biden Rips Rudy For Having "Zero National Security And Foreign Policy Experience"

"It's no surprise that it takes a man with zero national security and foreign policy experience to defend the policies of John McCain and President Bush," Biden said.

"Sen. McCain insists that Americans must choose between our values and our security. That's exactly wrong. Our values reinforce our security. Our failure to live up to them has been Al Qaeda's biggest recruiting tool."

30653. alistairConnor - 6/18/2008 5:38:38 PM

What would you say to 400+ electoral votes for Obama?


This chart, from fivethirtyeight.com, shows the distribution in electoral votes from ten thousand simulations based on poll data and demographic tweaks. Currently peaking at about 400.

30654. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/18/2008 5:52:15 PM

30655. jexster - 6/18/2008 5:59:46 PM

I'd say that I'd bet the Old Mule's bridle on it AC....On November 5th

30656. jexster - 6/18/2008 6:04:18 PM

30657. jexster - 6/18/2008 6:28:38 PM

I also think Hillary shouldn't plan on quitting her day job

30658. jexster - 6/18/2008 8:12:18 PM

O'Bama lined up his National Security Advisory team today


Lookee who's sitting next to him Arky

30659. arkymalarky - 6/18/2008 8:33:05 PM

I noticed that. Hmmm.

30660. arkymalarky - 6/18/2008 8:35:41 PM

I was talking to Bob's best friend, who was visiting yesterday, and it occurred to me what a real bind McCain is in. If he doesn't hug the right his base will stay home. The more he hugs the right, the more the moderates and independents abandon him. He's as between a rock and a hard place as a candidate can get. He has no choice but to stay right of what he thought to be, because if the GOP base stays home he'll lose bigtime. But the more he tries to placate them, the less independents like him. What a conundrum.

30661. jexster - 6/18/2008 8:56:40 PM

Meanwhile O"Bama moves to the center and bitch slaps the old fart every time he opens his mouth

People forget that O'Bambi was in something of a bind with Hillary. Not only is she woman (i guess) but she's a white woman. There was no substantive policy diff betw. the 2. The race dynamics were personal by default and his room for slapping the bitch down was very small.

Not so with McSame as Bush. He can go negative on substance...hit him and hit him again without ever getting down and dirty

30662. jexster - 6/18/2008 9:31:53 PM

Can't live with em
Can't live without em

Don't look now but John McSame has a problem with GOP beeyatches

30663. concerned - 6/19/2008 12:18:38 AM

PRESS STATEMENT OF LARRY SINCLAIR
JUNE 18, 2008
Good afternoon, my name is Larry Sinclair and I am a former recreational drug user and
trafficker, a convicted felon for crimes of forgery, bad checks and theft by check. I am also an
American who loves this country and I cannot stay silent regarding Barack Obama knowing
what I know.
Today I will discharge my obligation as a citizen to witness this knowledge to you and
raise questions for others to investigate and consider. I am going to briefly describe my
background, my experience with Senator Obama in 1999, what appears to me to be a
coordinated effort to discredit me and finally a list of questions. After this brief statement, I will
take and try to answer any reasonable questions.
Background
I am 46 years old and I currently reside in Duluth, MN. I am a US Citizen, and I have
made mistakes in my lifetime. I have been convicted and served prison sentences for writing
bad checks, forging checks, using stolen credit card numbers in Arizona, Florida and Colorado.
These event’s occurred over twenty (20) years ago between 1980 thru 1986.
After going public on the internet with these claims against Senator Obama earlier this
year, I became aware of a warrant out of Florida from 1986 which I have resolved and it has now
been dismissed. I also have an active “Colorado Only” warrant for alleged “Theft and Forgery”.
I am not ignoring this warrant but am addressing it with the Court in Colorado as well as with
the DA’s office. I have a pending motion to dismiss this warrant which I am waiting to have
calendared by the Colorado Court.
I have lived and worked under three different names. My birth name is Lawrence W.
Sinclair. Later on, I had my name legally changed first to La-Rye A. Silvas, and then La-Rye
Vizcarra Avila. The last two were legal name changes granted by the court in Penal County
Superior Court, Florence Arizona. I legally returned to my birth name in the Fremont County
District court, Canon City, Colorado in 1997.

30664. concerned - 6/19/2008 12:19:48 AM

Obama Incident

I flew out of Colorado Springs, Colorado to Chicago on November 2, 1999, arriving in
O'Hare early in the morning of November 3, 1999. I went to the Chicago area to attend the
graduation of my god son (my best friend’s son) from basic training from the Great Lakes Navy
Training Center. I made reservations at the Comfort Inn and Suites in Gurnee, IL based on
location to the Navy Training center.
On November 5, 1999, I hired the services of Five Star Limo. I had hired them for both
November 5 and November 6. On November 6, 1999, I asked the limo driver – whose name I
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now reveal for the first time – Paramjit Multani, if he knew anyone who would like to socialize
and show me Chicago. Paramjit Multani understood that I was not looking for someone who
knew Chicago and would enjoy socializing. Paramjit Multani said he knew someone who was a
friend of his.
On November 6, 1999 after picking me up at the Hotel in Gurnee– and this is significant
– Paramjit Multani used his cellphone to make a call. That call was made to then-Illinois State
Senator Barack Obama to set up an introduction between me and Senator Obama. Upon arriving
at the bar and exiting the Limo, Senator Obama was standing next to Paramjit Multani and I was
introduced to Senator Obama. Later that evening at a bar which I believe was called Alibis, I
mention I could use a line or two to wake up. Senator Obama asked me if I was referring to
“coke” and after stating I was, Obama stated he could purchase cocaine for me and then made a
telephone call – and this too is significant -- from his cellphone to a presently unknown
individual during which Senator Obama arranged the cocaine purchase.

30665. concerned - 6/19/2008 12:21:03 AM

Senator Obama and I then departed the bar in my limousine and proceeded to an
unknown location where Senator Obama exited the limousine with two hundred fifty dollars
($250) I had given him and returned a short while later with an “eightball” of cocaine which he
gave to me. I did ingest a couple of lines of cocaine, and shortly thereafter Senator Obama
produced a glass cylinder pipe and packet of crack cocaine from his pants pocket and Obama
smoked the crack cocaine. I performed fellatio on Senator Obama in the limousine during the
time Senator Obama was smoking crack cocaine, after which I had the driver take me to the my
hotel, The Comfort Suits, Gurnee, Illinois.
The following day, November 7, 1999, Senator Obama appeared at my hotel room where
we again ingested cocaine and I again performed fellatio on Senator Obama.
Significantly, both the driver’s telephone call to Senator Obama and his call to the drug
dealer should appear on the driver’s and Senator Obama’s cellphone billing statements.
Fall 2007
In September 2007 I contacted the Presidential Campaign of Barack H. Obama, to
request solely that Senator Obama publicly correct his stated drug use record to reflect his use of
crack cocaine with me in November 1999. When I made that first contact I left with the
Presidential Campaign of Senator Barack H. Obama a telephone number for the campaign to
return my call. The first number I provided was a Texas cell phone number.
From the period of Labor day weekend 2007 through November 18, 2007 I did provide a
total of four (4) different call back numbers to the Obama campaign, as I had moved and had
changed the numbers to reflect locally my place of residence at the time. In late September to
early October 2007, I received a call from a male who identified himself as a “Mr. Young”
stating he was calling in regards to calls I had made to the Obama campaign. This first call was
in fact an attempt by “Mr. Young” to obtained from me the identities of anyone I had contacted
concerning my 1999 allegations against Senator Obama. This first called shocked me in that this
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“Mr. Young” asked me why I had not asked Senator Obama to disclose the sexual encounters I
had with Mr. Obama in 1999. I was shocked as I had never mentioned to the campaign or
anyone working for the campaign any sexual encounters as my call was prompted by drug
allegations only. The call ended with “Mr. Young” stating I would hear from someone in a few
days.

30666. concerned - 6/19/2008 12:21:48 AM

In mid to late October 2007, I received a second call from this “Mr. Young” at which
time I clearly became aware that this individual was personally involved with Senator Obama
rather than just an employee of his campaign. The tone of the conversation had a sexual nature.
“Mr. Young” did not once advise me how he obtained my phone number which by this time had
now changed to a Delaware number.
In late October 2007, I received a text message from the gentleman identified as “Mr.
Young” in which he stated he was intimately involved with Senator Obama and that Obama was
discussing with him and his pastor how to publicly acknowledge Senator Obama’s drug use in
1999 and that Obama wanted to be sure I had not discussed the sexual encounters or drug
incidents with any media at that time.
In mid to late November 2007, in another text message from “Mr. Young” , he advised
me that Senator Obama will publicly correct his statement as to the last time he used drugs and I
did not need to concern myself with publicly disclosing it myself.
The last contact I had with “Mr. Young” was in early December 2007 when he made it
clear to me that Senator Obama had no intentions of publicly acknowledging his 1999 use of
crack cocaine and that “Mr. Young” was in fact doing nothing more than milking information
from me for Senator Obama’s use.
I later learned that a Donald Young was the choir director of Reverend Wright’s Trinity
United Church of Christ – Obama's now-former church -- and was openly a homosexual. I also
learned that he was murdered on December 23, 2007.
I have cooperated with the Chicago Police Department in this matter by providing them
the telephone numbers I was using during the fall of 2007 and I release them now publically in
the hope that someone may be able to connect the dots between these telephone numbers and
Mr. Young. Those numbers are: 954-758-1105; 956-758-1885; 956-758-8002; 302-685-7175;
612-466-1043.
2008
In what I now realize was a naive and un-counseled decision, I posted in January 2008 a
video on YouTube.com where I related the above information regarding my liaisons with
Senator Obama in 1999. The response was overwhelming and I quickly became the recipient of
what in hindsight appears to have been a coordinated attack on my character with ever increasing
falsehoods circulating on the internet.

30667. concerned - 6/19/2008 12:22:29 AM

In response I agreed to take a polygraph test from Whitehouse.com. The results of that
test have been partially revealed to the end of labeling me a liar and taken as gospel by all.
I would like to make the following comments about that polygraph test. First, I have
been subsequently advised that Whitehouse.com was a website dedicated to anti-Clinton
pornography until earlier this year. Second, I have now come to understand that lie detectors are
junk science at best which is why courts of law refuse to use them. Third, a review of the results
by George W. Maschke, Ph.D. of AntiPolygraph.org raises serious questions about the
legitimacy of the examination. Indeed, overlooked by almost everyone is that Whitehouse.com’s
own examiner, Dr. Gordon Barland, observed that on the drug question regarding Senator
Obama that the computerized score found that there was less than a 1% probability of deception
by me. That's about as high a passing score as one can possibly attain.
Finally, in February 2008 I was told anonymously that Dan Parisi of Whitehouse.com
received $750,000 from the Obama campaign through AKR Media to organize an effort to
publically discredit me. When I confronted Dan Parisi with this allegation, he did not deny it but
instead withdrew the second exonerating polygraph report of Dr. Gordon Barland, failed to post
the video of my polygraph as he and Whitehouse.com promised they would do, and even
removed posts from their web site altogether, claiming that they had "had enough of the attacks
by Sinclair's supporters and Sinclair himself.”
The polygraph results - as misrepresented – were immediately seized upon by the blogger
community and I became the subject of vicious lies about me. I was forced to file a lawsuit in an
attempt to stop those lies about me that have been circulating. That lawsuit sought to obtain the
proof of what I was saying about my contact with Senator Obama through subpoenas for the
identities of the anonymous bloggers so they could be linked to the Obama campaign and
relevant records of the cellphone companies to prove the truth of my allegations. To date,
though the lawsuit is now over ninety days old, Judge Kennedy has refused to permit the suit to
move forward so this evidence may be obtained.

30668. concerned - 6/19/2008 12:22:59 AM

Conclusion
In sum, you can discredit my story and then make your decision on who should be the
next President of the United States. The burden is now off me as I have told my story without
the distortions that have been intentionally heaped on me in what my lawyer tells me is an ad
hominem attack – shoot the messenger so you don’t have to hear the message he is bringing. I
am now done. It is for others to find the corroborating evidence of my story by locating the
limousine driver – Paramjit Multani – and the telephone numbers related to Donald Young
and/or Senator Obama. I leave you with these questions that I have asked of Senator Obama but
which he – who wants to be the next President of the United States – has refused to answer:
1. Why won’t Senator Obama provide his cellphone numbers and telephone
records for all his personal and official cell phones held by him for the time
period of November 3, 1999 thru November 8, 1999, when we met?
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2. Why won’t Senator Obama provide his cellphone numbers and telephone
records for all his personal and official cell phones held by Senator Obama for
September 2007 – December 23, 2008, the murder of Donald Young?
3. Why won’t Senator Obama provide all email communication both
personal and campaign related to and/or from AKP Message & Media from
January 18, 2008 through February 29, 2008 for Senator Obama, David Axelrod
and David Plouffe?
4. Why won’t Senator Obama provide proof of all payments made from
AKP Message & Media, Obama for America, David Axelrod, David Plouffe, and
Senator Obama’s accounts for the period of January 18, 2008 through February
29, 2008?
On my website – larrysinclair.org – you will find the documents that I have referred to in
this statement. A copy of the home page for that website is attached.
Thank you for your time and attention this afternoon and I will now take any questions.
- E n d -

30669. concerned - 6/19/2008 12:27:40 AM

I recall all the hate and contempt rejexst expressed dozens if not hundreds of times right in the Mote for any Republican politicians who were outed for gay sex.

Given this, mere consistency requires that rejexst would agree that Hussein is unfit to be president of the USA, given that he indulges in illicit gay sex AND illegal drug use AND attempts to cover them up AND is trying to destroy Sinclair for bringing out the truth.

30670. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/19/2008 8:51:20 AM

30671. Wombat - 6/19/2008 9:27:53 AM

Unhinged does not appear to know the difference between accusation and proof. Oddly enough, this lack of knowledge vanishes when the accusations are directed at the Bush administration.

The following is an ad hominem attack: Unhinged is like a monkey in the zoo who hurls his own feces around the cage.

30672. jexster - 6/19/2008 9:45:14 AM

O! Refuses the Dole

The Early Word: Obama Opts Out of Public Financing
By Michael Falcone

In a video message sent to supporters this morning Senator Barack Obama said his campaign had made the decision not to participate in public financing during the general election. It marks the first time since 1976 that a major party presidential candidate has rejected public financing for the general election.

30673. jexster - 6/19/2008 9:50:25 AM

The GOP is truly desperate. Looking at the receiving end of a possible electoral landslide and total wipe out in the Congress, they've brought out the heavy slime




Larry Sinclair
Call Pueblo County Crime Stoppers

Sinclair is familiar to political junkies and reporters as the source of outlandish allegations about Senator Barack Obama, tales that began with sex and drugs and moved on to murder.

The Duluth, Minn., resident is the sort of figure who appears at the margins of every presidential campaign, and both Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton had their own obscure accusers with dramatic allegations. But as the old media ignores him, Sinclair has taken full advantage of the Internet, and a video in which he makes his claims that have been viewed more than 900,000 times on YouTube.
This afternoon, he's reserved the Holeman Lounge at downtown Washington's National Press Club
to try to lend his story the legitimacy that comes with national media attention.

Sinclair's biography, though, may get in the way of that pitch: Public records and court filings reveal that he has a 27-year criminal record, with a specialty in crimes involving deceit. The record includes forgery charges in two states, one of which drew Sinclair a 16-year jail sentence. The Pueblo County, Colo., Sheriff's Office also has an outstanding warrant for Sinclair's arrest for forging an acquaintance's signature and stealing her tax refunds

30674. jexster - 6/19/2008 9:53:23 AM

O!Bama Opts Out

30675. jexster - 6/19/2008 9:56:17 AM

30663
Don't fund GOP 527 felons

Join the Movement - Donate Now

30676. jexster - 6/19/2008 9:58:10 AM

30677. jexster - 6/19/2008 10:08:51 AM

Stoopid is as Stoopefying does TD

GOP Career Criminal Holds Stupefying Press Conference

30678. jexster - 6/19/2008 10:12:44 AM

WANTED

30679. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 10:14:14 AM

Amazing how Con'd eats up a fugitive criminal's lies and doesn't believe the facts in front of him about the Bush administration. His "smell test" is permanently in reverse.

I thought Sinclair was arrested right after his talk.

30680. jexster - 6/19/2008 10:14:22 AM

And pay Sinclair did -- for the venue and its microphone, as well as for a kilted lawyer (with a suspended license) named Montgomery Blair Sibley, who informed those assembled that his preferences in dress were arrived at as a way to secure comfort for his unusually large sexual organs. "I don't know why men wear pants," he said with a poker face. "It's a function of male genitalia. If you're size normal or smaller, you're probably comfortable with [pants]. ... Those at the other end of the spectrum find them quite confining."

30681. jexster - 6/19/2008 10:15:26 AM

This is the GOP game in 2008?


Landslide

30682. jexster - 6/19/2008 10:20:49 AM

Take a Bite Out of GOP Crime

Big Oil Companies Land No-bid Contracts in IraQ

30683. jexster - 6/19/2008 10:36:14 AM

Guardian UK - Michelle O'Bama is One Tough Mama

30684. David Ehrenstein - 6/19/2008 10:37:09 AM

That lawyer in a kilt was too much!

30685. jexster - 6/19/2008 10:39:42 AM

You favor them don't you DE?

30686. jexster - 6/19/2008 11:04:03 AM

McFossil's Brain: Will He Be Able to Remember What He Had for Breakfast?

30687. jexster - 6/19/2008 11:08:07 AM

30688. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/19/2008 11:08:52 AM

Here's the proof . . .

30689. wonkers2 - 6/19/2008 11:23:07 AM

I'm voting Republican

30690. jexster - 6/19/2008 12:01:57 PM

America's Most Wanted

Sinclair was arrested by DC Police after 2 US Marshals showed up and presented a warrant from the State of Delaware for Sinclair’s arrest. Montgomery Blair Sibley, who’s had his law license suspended by the District of Columbia and Florida, and who was previously Sinclair’s attorney, reviewed the warrant and then Sinclair was led away

30691. jexster - 6/19/2008 12:03:18 PM

Looks like O'Bama sucessfully "destroyed" Larry Sinclair just as Concerned said he would

30692. jexster - 6/19/2008 12:07:50 PM

Changing the Way Politics is Done in BushVille
Dems Salivate Over Prospects of Using O'Bama Email List

Five months before the November election, Democrats are beginning to fantasize about how they could use Barack Obama’s massive e-mail list in the service of a Democratic administration.



By mere dint of its enormity, Obama’s collection of e-mail addresses — a million and a half from donors, many more from other supporters — holds game-changing potential.

30693. concerned - 6/19/2008 12:25:52 PM

If Sinclair is slime, so is Hussein.

Good thing for rejexst that he prefers slime.

30694. concerned - 6/19/2008 12:27:20 PM

Interesting how comfortable the Left is with tossing its political opponents in jail.

This should be a warning to freedom lovers.

30695. magoseph - 6/19/2008 1:41:27 PM

updated 13 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Federal authorities announced Thursday that more than 400 real estate industry players have been indicted since March — including dozens over the past two days — in nationwide crackdown on mortgage fraud that has contributed to the country’s housing crisis.

The FBI put the losses to homeowners and other borrowers who were victims in the schemes at over $1 billion.

“Mortgage fraud and related securities fraud pose a significant threat to our economy, to the stability of our nation’s housing market and to the peace of mind to millions of Americans,” Deputy Attorney General Mark Filip said in a statement.

30696. jexster - 6/19/2008 2:13:42 PM

Sinclair is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

He has the right to an attorney. If he cannot afford an attorney the Republican National Committee will hire one before any questioning

30697. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 2:14:52 PM

We just tossed a few Bear-Stearns criminals in jail. But I won't be happy until Rove is hauled off in 'cuffs.

30698. jexster - 6/19/2008 2:15:23 PM

Loves America!

30699. jexster - 6/19/2008 2:20:46 PM

This Just In
Sons of Liberty Action Bulletin



A footnote to the story of Larry Sinclair, the gadfly whose long criminal record I wrote about this morning: He was arrested by Washington, D.C., police after his press conference there today, two officials at D.C.'s First District station confirmed to Politico.

Sinclair is wanted in Colorado on theft and forgery charges, but police officials I spoke to wouldn't discuss the charges. Reason's David Weigel first reported the arrest.

Avi swung by Sinclair's press conference at the National Press Club today, an utterly strange scene in which the highlight came from Sinclair's spokesman. Montgomery Blair Sibley, whose law license has been suspended, explained why he was wearing a kilt by saying that it was more comfortable for "those of us on the other side of the genital spectrum."




So tell us TD, what side of the genital spectrum RU?

30700. jexster - 6/19/2008 2:27:20 PM

Meanwhile CNN is reporting that McShame trophy wife and sugar bitch drug addict, Cindy, does considerable charity work for the Peoples' Republic of Vietnam....












As a pubic service

30701. jexster - 6/19/2008 2:32:23 PM

30702. jexster - 6/19/2008 2:34:37 PM

That's one shifty nigrah Robert!

Not Just Whistling Past Dixie
Obama angers some in the netroots by cutting a radio ad for telecom-immunity-loving, Iraq-War-supporting Blue Dog Democratic Rep. John Barrow, who is facing a progressive primary challenger in Georgia.

--David Kurtz

30703. jexster - 6/19/2008 2:51:06 PM

AP-Ipsos poll: Most say US on wrong track


Wherever the nation should be headed, this isn't it.

The number of Americans who believe the country is moving in the wrong direction has risen sharply, to nearly eight in ten, amid soaring food and gas prices, falling home values and unending war. Just 17 percent say the country is going in the right direction, according to an AP-Ipsos poll.

The right-direction number is the lowest ever recorded by the survey, which began in 2003. When other surveys are taken into account, the general level of pessimism is the worst in almost 30 years.

And it's getting worse. The 17 percent positive reading was down from 24 percent just since April.

Those who said the country was on the wrong track totaled 76 percent of the people contacted in the survey, which was taken from June 12-16. That's up from 71 percent in April and 66 percent near the end of 2007.

President Bush's approval rating was 29 percent in the poll, near his all-time low of 28 percent in April, while 67 percent said they disapproved of the way he was handling his job.

30704. jexster - 6/19/2008 3:22:02 PM

While I applaud Concerned's concern for the rights of the accused felon, while he concerned himself with Larry Sinclair and whether he was sufficiently endowed to wear a kilt, the rogue state of Jizzrael is making McBush look like an idiot


Appeasement is breaking out all over the Middle East
Thank God Lebanon just told the Jizzraelite appeasers to go piss up a rope

Allahu akhbar...details in Conflict in the ME

30705. concerned - 6/19/2008 4:08:35 PM

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

- Bertrand Russell

Lefties are certain of their foolish partisanship, while I am definitely full of doubts about their ignorant bullshit and their boy Hussein.

30706. concerned - 6/19/2008 4:10:48 PM

Appeasement is breaking out all over the Middle East

To the extent this is true, it is Bush Administration policies that are being appeased.

Congratulations go to George W. Bush for his successes in Iraq and Afghanistan.

30707. Wombat - 6/19/2008 4:20:31 PM

Bush policies??? You mean the policy of not talking to or negotiating with Hamas? That one? Giving terrists legitimacy?

30708. jexster - 6/19/2008 6:07:13 PM

I for one am glad Lebanon decided to say NO to Israeli appeasement


I am sure they had a good laugh at McBush's polish jokes

30709. robertjayb - 6/19/2008 6:09:08 PM

Did O renege on public campaign finance?

30710. jexster - 6/19/2008 6:24:57 PM

So how did the brisket come out?

30711. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 6:25:19 PM

McCain didn't meet the conditions of an agreement. Did McCain deal with 527s and the money he spent while Obama was still buying ads in the primary? When Obama said he would bring a gun to a knife fight he was serious. New politics is good enough not taking lobbyist money. It doesn't mean hobbling yourself while your opponent goes around the spirit of an agreement.

30712. jexster - 6/19/2008 6:27:13 PM

How was your Juneteenth Arky?

30713. jexster - 6/19/2008 6:30:52 PM

No better day than Juneteenth I figger

30714. jexster - 6/19/2008 6:31:34 PM

Robert..ya know you've lived too long when the white guy takes the welfare check and the colored boy earns his own keep

30715. jexster - 6/19/2008 6:43:01 PM

when asked if he had made a decision about whether to take the public money, McCain said, "We will take public financing." Asked for the rationale behind the decision, "Because we decided to take public financing."


Good Lord he may be dumber than Bush

30716. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 7:00:54 PM

We celebrate ours the first week of August, but thanks for asking. Since Judith and Keoni will be there, I know it will be a blast, as usual.

30717. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 7:04:36 PM

On that subject, one year we went down to the first bridge in the bottoms--one of two "boat ditches" that were dug to take the excess from the creek in the middle. Anyway, there were goat heads and entrails in the creek, and we were very concerned about what kind of satanic rituals were taking place close to our house. Then we remembered it was Juneteenth weekend.

But on the other side of the bottoms, in the bridge over the other boat ditch, someone once painted "If you ant white, you ant right."

30718. jexster - 6/19/2008 7:14:39 PM

Charlie Cook thinks O!'s gonna run McSame from pillar to post then beat him like an old mule that Robert rented him

30719. jexster - 6/19/2008 7:15:32 PM

Arkansas celebrates Juneteenth in August.


Glad I asked!

30720. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 7:39:25 PM

Just my part of the state. The Delta celebrates it the same time as TX.

30721. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 7:40:13 PM

Hardly anyone celebrates it as that, btw. If you ask people about Juneteenth they don't know what you're talking about. It's just family reunion time.

30722. jexster - 6/19/2008 8:40:28 PM

Drug Addicted Cindy McShame Visits Red Masters in Vietnam

30723. jexster - 6/19/2008 8:42:56 PM

Lady McShame Stole Drugs to Feed Habit


No doubt laid in an opium stash on her visit to Hanoi

30724. jexster - 6/19/2008 9:02:54 PM

But he still doesn't wear the flag on his lapel does he?


I didn't really love America until I was deprived of her company

30725. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:12:40 PM

McCain has seventeen medals he could wear in addition to the flag on his lapel.

A Leftist shirk politician like Hussein has to settle for what he can get - the flag pin.

30726. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:13:40 PM

If Hussein had gone through what McCain did in Vietnam, he'd be a permanent resident in a funny farm.

30727. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:16:49 PM

Btw, McCain's promise to add 45 nuclear power plants to the US is by far the best campaign promise for the country's future that I've heard so far. How else are we effectively going to transition to fuel cell or hydrogen powered cars on a large scale?

30728. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:18:52 PM

This is the only way we'll reduce our contribution to global warming *and* significantly reduce our dependency on foreign oil, btw.

Kudos to McCain for this proposal.

30729. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:21:01 PM

By comparison, Hussein's proposals to raise taxes are the same old failed bullshit that the American Voter rejected over and over again for the last 30 years.

30730. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:22:48 PM

McCain didn't meet the conditions of an agreement.

Yeah. Hussein's agreement. McCain isn't beholden to his political opponent's 'agreements.' That's bullshit, Snarky.

30731. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:26:59 PM

To those who whine: 'What are we going to do with nuclear waste', my answer is - 'Look Toward France'. That may be the only thing I would respond to in this way, but all the same....

30732. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 11:31:49 PM

What, are you and Jex pulling shift work now? How'd you get stuck with swing?

30733. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:33:23 PM

I have a day job. Rejexst is 24/7 on the Mote.

30734. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 11:35:39 PM

They were going to negotiate, but McCain blew it by campaigning while he was a victor in his party and the Dems were still going at it in theirs, McCain has waffled on federal money since he was for it before he was against it in the primary, and McCain has not addressed 527s, while Obama has at least taken a position with his supporters and opposing independent groups injecting themselves into the campaign.

In short, McCain blew it by breaking rules that would have been part of any "agreement" before the Democratic primary was even over.

30735. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 11:37:11 PM

Haha! Well, I rotate shifts now that school's out for the summer.

30736. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:39:28 PM

but McCain blew it by campaigning while he was a victor in his party and the Dems were still going at it in theirs

I am sure you would have been very upset with Obama if he had acted differently if his and McCain's positions were reversed here.

30737. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 11:40:32 PM

This was a proposed agreement between the two winners of the nomination. That was the whole point. Obama never said (and none of his opponents assert) that he would use federal funding if the GOP nominee didn't.

30738. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 11:42:17 PM

I am sure you would have been very upset with Obama if he had acted differently if his and McCain's positions were reversed here.

Maybe, but the fact would still remain that both sides would have to be equal in other aspects of financial support. In practice, whatever helps my guy win that's legal.

30739. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:43:04 PM

Obama is getting more private funding than McCain - it is definitely a self-interested decision - the fact that his campaign is playing it up is proof of that.

30740. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:45:19 PM

Also, I was going to post that McCain's campaign committee really said relatively little about Obama while he and Hilliary were battling it out. I'm not saying anybody isn't a politician here - obviously since everybody is a politician here.

30741. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 11:45:22 PM

What do you mean by "private"? And I agree that it's self-interest, especially since he turned out to be such a money-magnet, even without lobbyist and pac money; but he has a good defense of his decision due to McCain's campaign choices.

30742. arkymalarky - 6/19/2008 11:46:24 PM

It's not that he went negative against Obama, it's that he toured the country and campaigned with raised money after he'd won the nominstion.

30743. concerned - 6/19/2008 11:51:13 PM

Arky -

Can you name any instances in modern history where any decent politician hasn't campaigned with raised money, given the chance?

30744. arkymalarky - 6/20/2008 12:41:57 AM

Right--Obama has the chance, and he's taking it. Of course, McCain wouldn't be taking it if he thought he could raise more. As soon as McCain decided to take it, Obama said he isn't, so McCain is stuck. Had he negotiated and not enjoyed weeks to campaign (and spend donor money) with no competition during the Democratic primary, the result might have been different.

30745. jexster - 6/20/2008 5:44:40 AM

When is the punditocracy going to stop talking "wide playing field" and start talking wipeout?

Poll: Presidential Race A Dead Heat -- In Georgia

In a further sign of just how wide the political playing field is set to be this fall, a new poll finds that Barack Obama may well be able to win Georgia, a state that voted twice for George W. Bush and by healthy margins.

The numbers from InsiderAdvantage: McCain 44%, Obama 43%, within the ±5% margin of error. Some key numbers: Bob Barr, the former right-wing Georgia Congressman turned Libertarian nominee, is getting six-percent support, which otherwise would have probably gone to McCain. Also, InsiderAdvantage estimates that blacks will make up 29% of the electorate, up from 25% in 2004 exit polling.

30746. jexster - 6/20/2008 5:54:47 AM

Marshall - McCain Breaking the Law in Plain Sight

I mentioned earlier today that it was quite a thing to see John McCain denouncing Barack Obama for breaking his word on public financing when McCain himself is at this moment breaking the law in continuing to spend over the spending limits he promised to abide by through the primary season in exchange for public financing. (By the FEC's rules, we're still in the primary phase of the election and will be until the conventions.)

I want to return to this subject though because this is not hyperbole or some throw away line. He's really doing it. McCain opting into public financing, accepted the spending limits and then profited from that opt-in by securing a campaign saving loan. And then he used some clever, but not clever enough lawyering, to opt back out. And the person charged with saying what flies and what doesn't -- the Republican head of the FEC -- said he's not allowed to do that. He can't opt out unilaterally unless the FEC says he can.



Actually Arky the sequence is O'Bama declined public financing and McShame formally accepted it but it's all just kabuki anyway


The bottom line is that where McShame gets 80 on the dole, Obama raises 300 million plus from small donors

30747. jexster - 6/20/2008 5:57:11 AM

O'bama's going to run that old white man ragged with all that money


In case you haven't noticed, even McCain's partisans aren't terribly enthusiastic. Just read what his flaks and surrogates come out with..

Real snooze fest

Mark my words of a couple weeks back..this guy will make em stop laughing at the thought of Ole Dole 96

30748. jexster - 6/20/2008 6:05:12 AM

McCain "I hated America"

30749. jexster - 6/20/2008 6:08:56 AM

"It's all about the money" McCain Campaign



Yea like O'Bama can raise it and they can't

30750. jexster - 6/20/2008 11:02:34 AM

Broke: GOP 527 effort nonexistent

30751. jexster - 6/20/2008 11:12:11 AM

hehehe
Richard Collins, a wealthy Dallas-based entrepreneur, bankrolled “StopHerNow," an entity set up to defeat the former First Lady.

“For six months, it’s been do we stop her, stop him or stop somebody else?” he notes.

“We spent 18 months and millions of dollars making 'Hillary The Movie,'" laments David Bossie, head of Citizens United and a longtime Clinton tormentor. “We’re incredibly proud, but the problem is the film has no relevance anymore.”

Bossie is now rushing out an Obama movie for later this summer that he promises will include Wright and other controversial figures from the Democrat’s past. But while promising that they’ll also do TV spots, Bossie’s outfit faces the same challenges as other third-party groups hoping to engage in the race – a lack of money.

Citizens United had less than $1 million on hand at then of April.

30752. jexster - 6/20/2008 11:22:00 AM

Well Ole Hillary's back. Campaigning with O! next Friday

30753. jexster - 6/20/2008 11:27:03 AM

Bloomberg: Concerned is a Natural Born Liar

30754. jexster - 6/20/2008 11:36:16 AM

Huckabee Denounces Concerned's "Drivel"

The GOP left it's strongest candidate behind

30755. jexster - 6/20/2008 11:41:37 AM

O'Bama's Small Donor Base Could Bring in Half a Billion

30756. arkymalarky - 6/20/2008 12:16:48 PM

From Brooks, quoted by Ben Smith:

If we’re going to have a president who is going to go toe to toe with the likes of Vladimir Putin, maybe it is better that he should have a ruthlessly opportunist Fast Eddie Obama lurking inside.

All I know for sure is that this guy is no liberal goo-goo. Republicans keep calling him naïve. But naïve is the last word I’d use to describe Barack Obama. He’s the most effectively political creature we’ve seen in decades. Even Bill Clinton wasn’t smart enough to succeed in politics by pretending to renounce politics.

This could cut both ways. I thought the way he gave the press the slip when he met with Hillary Clinton was smooth, but it may not have been smart. It's a fool-me-once thing. I don't think he played the system, and considering how McCain used public financing in the primary, McCain doesn't have a leg to stand on. But if people feel like they're being played, especially combined with media complaints of a lack of access, it runs contrary to what Obama has been about with grassroots emphasis and ground-up operation. That runs completely ocunter to limited access and playing the media and his opposition.

30757. jexster - 6/20/2008 12:19:48 PM

MoveOn's just announced that it is shutting down it's 527 operation in response to Our Fearsome Leader

He be the GREATEST!

30758. arkymalarky - 6/20/2008 12:21:54 PM

Wow.

He is amazing. I think that's the real reason Bill Clinton doesn't like him.

30759. jexster - 6/20/2008 12:25:44 PM

That's a great point Arky. I raised that very thing over at TPM on a comment about McBush's ineffectual national security attack ie that the swiftness and brutality of the response matters just as much as the substance..the atmospherics of strength matter far more than the substantive policy


Kerry didn't take a hit because he wanted to get out of Iraq. He took the hit because he vacillated. He took the national security hit because they were able to portray him as weak not because there was anything inherently weak in his policy proposals.

30760. jexster - 6/20/2008 12:39:57 PM

All I know for sure is that this guy is no liberal goo-goo. Republicans keep calling him naïve. But naïve is the last word I’d use to describe Barack Obama.

30761. jexster - 6/20/2008 12:48:41 PM

Texas Tar Baby

McCain struggles to break free of Bush

The candidate wants to distance himself from the president, but their messages keep overlapping.

30762. jexster - 6/20/2008 2:19:28 PM

Is Gates Campaigning for Obama's Sec Def???

Could be. Josh Marshall reviews the mounting evidence

He's no dummy. He can tell which way the election wind is blowing
Just like Israel has

30763. jexster - 6/20/2008 3:46:50 PM

He was agin it before he was for it
WWAS

What would Ahnold Say????


O Rips McBush Offshore Oil Drilling Scam

Obama told the governors he couldn't wait to hear what their Republican colleague Arnold Schwarzenegger of California would have to say about McCain's plan. Told that he'd already spoken out, Obama said, "He's thumbs down, right?"

He is. Schwarzenegger said Wednesday that California's coastline is "an international treasure" that must be protected.

30764. jexster - 6/20/2008 4:24:03 PM

Thanks to John McBush's chief financial adviser, subpimer, Enron enabling, oil future speculated Tormentor of Tiny Tejas Democrats like Robert


Stocks Tank on Banking Woes and Oil Prices


McBush recession coming.

It will be long
It will be deep


But at least the Texas Railroad Commission financiers will be laughing ...all the way to the bank

30765. jexster - 6/20/2008 4:43:19 PM

If It Weren't For Useful Idiots Like Concerned I'd be in Tejas now eatin messes of Juneteenth briskeeet outta Rohburht's smoker - Scottie


And the US wouldn't be fuckt from Caracas to Chunking

30766. robertjayb - 6/20/2008 4:45:10 PM

jexster....

Ohh, one who knows everything: Are the dems and the mighty O being rolled on the evesdropping legislation?

As a major political player and a half-assed lawyer to boot, you should be able to say. Please enlighten us...

30767. jexster - 6/20/2008 4:47:31 PM

That's Stenny Hoyer's fault....write your congressthing

I did...

I called the bitch too

30768. jexster - 6/20/2008 4:47:45 PM

How goes the dry rub

30769. jexster - 6/20/2008 4:48:27 PM

And for the record..I don't know everything

I just don't talk about the things I don't know anything about.

30770. jexster - 6/20/2008 4:50:42 PM

O voted no before he voted no on FISA


We jiss need a tad more discipline and a few less marmots like Phil Gramm's ETex beeyatch Rohburt


That answer your question or do you have another stupid one ready to go on Day 1?

30771. jexster - 6/20/2008 4:54:08 PM

Slap Some More Dry Rub on that Pig Robert
Afore she's presentable for her tour with the Fearsome Leader next week









If I can be of futha assistunce ya holler heah?

30772. jexster - 6/20/2008 4:54:58 PM

Rinky dink fucking redneck

30773. jexster - 6/20/2008 5:02:02 PM

Josh Marshall's learned the lesson that I already have and Robert sooner or later will

If I have to beat it out of the old bubba

Obama's surprised me a number of times. And I'm not afraid to say, a number of times where I see in retrospect that he was right and I was wrong.

30774. jexster - 6/20/2008 5:04:56 PM

"Given the grave threats that we face, our national security agencies must have the capability to gather intelligence and track down terrorists before they strike, while respecting the rule of law and the privacy and civil liberties of the American people. There is also little doubt that the Bush Administration, with the cooperation of major telecommunications companies, has abused that authority and undermined the Constitution by intercepting the communications of innocent Americans without their knowledge or the required court orders.

"That is why last year I opposed the so-called Protect America Act, which expanded the surveillance powers of the government without sufficient independent oversight to protect the privacy and civil liberties of innocent Americans. I have also opposed the granting of retroactive immunity to those who were allegedly complicit in acts of illegal spying in the past.

"After months of negotiation, the House today passed a compromise that, while far from perfect, is a marked improvement over last year's Protect America Act.

"Under this compromise legislation, an important tool in the fight against terrorism will continue, but the President's illegal program of warrantless surveillance will be over. It restores FISA and existing criminal wiretap statutes as the exclusive means to conduct surveillance - making it clear that the President cannot circumvent the law and disregard the civil liberties of the American people. It also firmly re-establishes basic judicial oversight over all domestic surveillance in the future. It does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses. But this compromise guarantees a thorough review by the Inspectors General of our national security agencies to determine what took place in the past, and ensures that there will be accountability going forward. By demanding oversight and accountability, a grassroots movement of Americans has helped yield a bill that is far better than the Protect America Act.

"It is not all that I would want. But given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as President, I will carefully monitor the program, review the report by the Inspectors General, and work with the Congress to take any additional steps I deem necessary to protect the lives - and the liberty - of the American people."

30775. jexster - 6/20/2008 5:07:34 PM

Matter of fact, Robert isn't even werthy of asking the question to begin with

But the quality of my mercy is never strained

30776. jexster - 6/20/2008 5:20:22 PM

Why my Houston bro just axed my why it was that Ahnold didn't want to pollute California beaches while it was OK to pollute Galveston!



I'll ask Robert what I axed him - Are you Texicans natural born slow or do y'all havta werk et eet

30777. robertjayb - 6/20/2008 5:30:48 PM

Booman lists the villains:

.... I have the list of the 105 Democrats that voted to shred our 4th Amendment rights. As you'll see, the group is made up almost entirely of members of either/both the New Democrat Coalition or the Blue Dog Coalition. In addition to members from those two caucuses, almost every remaining offender is either a member of the leadership, holds an important chairmanship, sits on Silvestre Reyes' Intelligence Committee, or represents New York's metro region (and therefore might fear getting blamed for a terror attack).

Ackerman, Gary- Bayside, New York
Altmire, Jason- New Democrat
Arcuri, Michael- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Baca, Joe- Blue Dog
Baird, Brian- New Democrat
Barrow, John- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Bean, Melissa- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Berkley, Shelley- New Democrat
Berman, Howard- Chair, Foreign Affairs Committee
Berry, Marion-
Bishop, Sanford (GA)- Blue Dog
Bishop, Tim (NY)- Southhampton, New York (Long Island)
Boren, Dan- Blue Dog
Boswell, Leonard- Member, Intelligence Committee, Blue Dog
Boucher, Rick-
Boyd, Allen (FL)- Blue Dog
Boyda, Nancy (KS)-
Brown, Corrine- Progressive
Butterfield, G.K. -
Cardoza, Dennis- Blue Dog
Carney, Chris- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Castor, Kathy-
Cazayoux, Dan-
Chandler, Ben- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Childers, Travis-
Cleaver, Emanuel- Progressive
Clyburn, Jim- Leadership, Progressive
Cooper, Jim- Blue Dog
Costa, Jim- Blue Dog
Cramer, Bud- Member, Intelligence Committee, Blue Dog
Crowley, Joe- Jackson Heights, New York, New Democrat
Cuellar, Henry- New Democrat
Davis, Artur (AL)- Leadership, New Democrat
Davis, Lincoln- Blue Dog
Dicks, Norm-
Donnelly, Joe- Blue Dog
(con'td)

30778. robertjayb - 6/20/2008 5:33:00 PM

Edwards, Chet (TX)-
Ellsworth, Brad- Blue Dog
Emanuel, Rahm- Leadership, New Democrat
Engel, Eliot- Bronx, New York, New Democrat
Etheridge, Bob- New Democrat
Giffords, Gabrielle- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Gillibrand, Kirsten- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Gordon, Bart- Blue Dog
Green, Al-
Green, Gene-
Gutierrez, Luis- Progressive
Harman, Jane- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Hastings, Alcee (FL)-
Herseth Sandlin- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Higgins, Brian- Buffalo, New York, New Democrat
Hinojosa, Ruben-
Holden, Tim- Blue Dog
Hoyer, Steny- Majority Leader
Kanjorski, Paul-
Kildee, Dale-
Kind, Ron- New Democrat
Klein, Ron (FL)- New Democrat
Lampson, Nick- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Langevin, James- Member, Intelligence Committee
Lipinski, Dan-
Lowey, Nita- White Plains, New York
Mahoney, Tim (FL)- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Marshall, Jim- Blue Dog
Matheson, Jim- Blue Dog
McCarthy, Carolyn (NY)- Garden City, New York, New Democrat
McIntyre, Mike- Blue Dog, New Democrat
McNerney, Jerry-
Meeks, Gregory (NY)- Jamaica, New York, New Democrat
Melancon, Charlie- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Mitchell, Harry-
Moore, Dennis (KS)- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Murphy, Patrick- Member, Intelligence Committee, Blue Dog, New Democrat
Murtha, Jack- Chair, Appropriations Defense Subcommittee
Ortiz, Solomon-
Pelosi, Nancy- Speaker of the House
Perlmutter, Ed- New Democrat
Peterson, Collin (MN)- Chair, Agriculture Committee, Blue Dog
Pomeroy, Earl- Blue Dog
Rahall, Nick- Chair, Natural Resources Committee
Reyes, Silvestre- Chair, Intelligence Committee
Richardson, Laura- Progressive
Rodriguez, Ciro-
Ross, Mike- Blue Dog
Ruppersberger, Dutch- Member, Intelligence Committee
Salazar, John- Blue Dog
Schiff, Adam- Member, Intelligence Committee, Blue Dog, New Democrat
Scott, David (GA)- Blue Dog, New Democrat
Sestak, Joe- New Democrat
Sherman, Brad-
Shuler, Heath- Blue Dog
Sires, Albio- Jersey City, New Jersey
Skelton, Ike- Chair, Armed Services Committee
Smith, Adam (WA)- New Democrat
Snyder, Vic- New Democrat
Space, Zach- Blue Dog
Spratt, Jack- Chair, Budget Committee
Stupak, Bart-
Tanner, John- Blue Dog
Tauscher, Ellen- New Democrat
Taylor, Gene- Blue Dog
Thompson, Bennie (MS)- Chair, Homeland Security, Progressive
Udall, Mark (CO)- running for Senate
Wilson, Charlie (OH)- Blue Dog
Yarmuth, John-

Profiles in jello...

30779. jexster - 6/20/2008 6:30:56 PM

THAT BITCH

And after I done called her yesterday!

I am really grateful to Hillary for teaching me misogyny.

30780. jexster - 6/20/2008 6:32:56 PM

That Nita Lowey was one of the more tiresome of the Clinton CWords

30781. jexster - 6/20/2008 6:38:10 PM

Hagel Would Consider VP O!ffer


I bet he would
Who WOULDN't sit at the Almighty's right hand?


Be a manly choice I reckon. But whatever O wants is right by me and Robert

30782. jexster - 6/20/2008 6:41:48 PM

O!pens 15 Pernt Lead - Newsweek

30783. jexster - 6/20/2008 6:46:33 PM

Yes Robert they are like sheep without a shepherd marmots without a Massa

30784. jexster - 6/20/2008 6:58:52 PM

The Lefty knees be jerkin over at TPMElectionC..


I tried to comfort them with the Newsweek 15 point bounce and with these words of Scripture Robert

Isaiah 55.6-11)

Seek the Lord while he may be found,
call upon him while he is near;
Let the wicked abandon their ways,
and the unrighteous their thoughts;
Return to the Lord, who will have mercy;
to our God, who will richly pardon.
'For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,' says the Lord.
'For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
'As the rain and the snow come down from above,
and return not again but water the earth,
'Bringing forth life and giving growth,
seed for sowing and bread to eat,
'So is my word that goes forth from my mouth;
it will not return to me fruitless,
'But it will accomplish that which I purpose,
and succeed in the task I gave it.'

30785. jexster - 6/20/2008 7:04:19 PM

#
CA-Pres
June 20 SurveyUSA
Obama (D) 53%,(49)
McCain (R) 41% (41)

30786. jexster - 6/20/2008 7:12:08 PM

Glenn Greenwald
Mind like a steel trap!

I think we do a grave disservice if we try to convince people that Obama is really going to work to get amnesty out of the bill. Reid is already saying it's just theater -- they know it's going to fail -- it's just a way, Reid said, to let people "express themselves." It's all designed to let Obama say, once he votes for this bill: "Well, I tried to get amnesty out." He's going to vote for amnesty -- and his statement today seals the fate of this bill. Why sugar coat that?"

30787. jexster - 6/20/2008 7:12:33 PM

15 pernts makes me hard!!

30788. jexster - 6/20/2008 7:17:32 PM

FISA
Fundraising
Hillary Friendship Tour




Oh yeah

John McWhat'sHisName gave a major economic speech supporting NAFTA in CANADA today

30789. jexster - 6/20/2008 8:20:53 PM

Who do they think they're talkin to Robert?

Just opened a $ solicitation from The Rev. Joseph Lowrey

"I cain't waaaaaiit for Barack Obama any longah Lawd"

etc.

At least they addressed me right proper..MISTER Jex not Dear Jex...but still I wonder


Who do they think I am
And who put me on the coloreds list?

30790. jexster - 6/20/2008 8:25:45 PM

John Dean tells Olbermann that there's a nigger in the FISA woodpile ie it gives immunity to the telecomms but doesn't protect anyone if Obama's elected.



Seems that the boy might have pulled a fass one

30791. jexster - 6/20/2008 8:33:21 PM

Origin "Nigger in the woodpile"

Where nigger in the woodpile came from...
How appropriate!

Campaign 1860




Currier & Ives, and again depicting Lincoln and Greeley as crypto-abolitionists, lampoons the candidate's "rail-splitter" image:
Lincoln sits atop the "Republican Platform," while Greeley converses with a man identified as "Young America."
Lincoln: "Little did I think when I split these rails, that they would be the means of elevating me to my present position."
Greeley: "I assure you, my friend, that you can safely vote our ticket. for we have no connection with the Abolition party, but our Platform is composed entirely of rails, split by our Candidate."
The Young American: "It's no use old fellow! you can't pull that wool over my eyes, for I can see "the Nigger" peeping through the rails."
As we have come to expect of political campaigns, the partisans of 1860 were gleefully indulging in a high degree of distortion. Cartoons were the perfect vehicles for propaganda: caricaturists could create images that had no obligation to respect "reality", they could make a swift and memorable statement without strenuous textual argument, and were accessible to the illiterate and educated alike. Fears and hatreds became mainfest through a visual medium; complex issues were reduced to still-life pictures; individuals came to stand for simple ideological types.

30792. jexster - 6/20/2008 8:33:53 PM

yuk yuk yuk

30793. concerned - 6/20/2008 10:02:18 PM

& here's the LW rejexst, bringing the lexicon of 1860 to 2008.

30794. concerned - 6/20/2008 10:04:29 PM

4 years for Calif. man who threatened Bush, others
1 hour ago

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A nuclear engineer from California has been sentenced to more than four years in federal prison for sending threatening letters to President Bush, first lady Laura Bush and others.

Prosecutors say Michael Lee Braun mailed nearly 60 letters over a five-year period after the 2001 terrorist attacks. Vice President Dick Cheney and former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld were also targets.

Most contained a white powder the letters described as poison. It was actually baking soda.

The 53-year-old Braun was arrested in 2006. He was an engineer at the now-closed Rancho Seco nuclear power plant south of Sacramento.

He was sentenced Friday to four years and three months in prison. He also must pay $54,000 in fines and damages.

Another LW whackjob. Only a matter of degree....

30795. jexster - 6/20/2008 10:08:58 PM

15 point lead...Poblano claims only Bill Clinton in 1996 held such a bulge


Newsweek has another fine article....Picked up on it finally

One of my FAVORITE Republicans next to JoeMentum

Boy that McBush speech on NAFTA sure was a stem winder

My friends


Aiming to Avoid the Dole-drums

30796. jexster - 6/20/2008 10:09:52 PM

Come November, they won't have Ole Bob Dole to make fun of anymore

30797. concerned - 6/20/2008 10:20:46 PM

Obama seen as a Muslim overseas

I've asserted this several weeks ago, only to have Mote Lefties reject it. But it is still the case, as evidenced by Qaddafi's clearly expressed Arab-centric viewpoint and his distorted 'good' vs 'evil' interpretration thereof.

The campaign has so far been rather effective at suppressing discussion of any of the complexities of Barack Obama's connection to the faith of his father. To even broach the subject is to be branded a smear artist, to have "emails" invoked as cyber boogeymen, and to be an "Islamophobe."

First Amendment responsibilities require that this be frankly discussed this election season, not suppressed to advance the interests of Left Wing Political Expediency.

30798. jexster - 6/20/2008 10:23:46 PM

That's right...He's a BLACK Muslim who does crack and blows career criminals

The Death of the GOP is here

30799. jexster - 6/20/2008 10:45:05 PM

First Amendment responsibilities require that this be frankly discussed this election season, not suppressed to advance the interests of Left Wing Political Expediency.

"You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to be speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at government expense."

30800. jexster - 6/20/2008 10:51:58 PM

Mike Huckabee and Michael Bloomberg warned Concerned against peddling his right wing "internet drivel"

I've Mirandized him three times now

30801. jexster - 6/20/2008 11:03:39 PM

McShame: "I never loved America" (Video)

You wanna know how you do it? Here's how, they pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way, and that's how you get Capone!

The only way to deal with Concerned

30802. concerned - 6/20/2008 11:24:54 PM

This shit has been old for 1400 years.

30803. concerned - 6/20/2008 11:27:23 PM

Obama - here to speed the decline.

30804. concerned - 6/20/2008 11:28:21 PM

Let's be up front - Hussein has locked up the 'Hate America' vote.

30805. concerned - 6/20/2008 11:33:05 PM

30806. wonkers2 - 6/21/2008 12:21:46 AM

Tnx, robert, for putting up the list of traitors. Most of them are nobodies. Only one from Michigan--Stupidpak. Others Hoyer, Murtha, Skelton and Reyes are committee chairmen. Reyes is a dim bulb.

30807. David Ehrenstein - 6/21/2008 8:41:57 AM

Latest FaBlog: Fait Divers -- Entertaining June

30808. jexster - 6/21/2008 10:15:39 AM

I'm liking MSNBC more and more.

The little things like this teaser today

Wondering what's behind O'Bama's surge in the polls? We'll have the boys in to explain everything tomorrow on....

Indeed. Polling is not woman's work

MSNBC - The Manly Network

30809. jexster - 6/21/2008 12:10:15 PM

As Michigan goes so goes...


SAN FRANCISCO -- California's unemployment rate rocketed up by 0.6 percentage points in May - the largest one-month increase since the state began keeping records in 1976 - as the fallout from high energy prices and the depressed housing market rippled through the state's economy.

The state's jobless rate was a seasonally adjusted 6.8 percent, up from 6.2 percent in April, the California Employment Development Department reported Friday. That's the highest rate since November 2003, when California was recovering from recession.

Meanwhile, the total number of jobs in the state outside the farm sector declined by 10,900 in May, the third month in a row that payrolls shrank. Construction accounted for most of those losses, shedding 9,600 jobs during the month.

30810. jexster - 6/21/2008 12:18:30 PM

30884


Let's be honest for a change. Enough up front lies from the Party of Lies and Incompetence.

Enough stoopid mashups and phony phelons and other internet drivel from the right-wacko wing

We've got McCain Hates America on tape

And we've photo evidence..with a commie cuban psychiatrist - one of his 33 I Hate America Appearances on Uncle Ho Network



O'Bama has a fifteen point lead in the polls.
He has most voting groups "locked up"

But McCain has a real opening...

30811. jexster - 6/21/2008 12:21:40 PM

Last time they gave us a Live Liar
IN 2008 they've given us a Living Liar



Will they give us a VP choice -

An exorcist
A Rabbi
or
A Peter Puffer

30812. jexster - 6/21/2008 12:27:06 PM

Be sure and pick up your copy of Sunday's NewYork Times


Can Charlie Crist Suck a Golf Ball Thru a Garden Hose

Word is that he and Congressman Foley shacked up when the two were state senators in the 90's.

The Tallahassee TwoStep

30813. jexster - 6/21/2008 12:32:44 PM

America Love It or Leave It?
GOP Giant Sucking Sound



McTraitor Praises NAFTA in Canada

30814. jexster - 6/21/2008 12:38:11 PM

McDouble Talk on Immigration
Dems Look to Lock Up Beaner Vote

30815. jexster - 6/21/2008 12:43:13 PM

Why does Bush hate me?

Good Saturday morning. Cindy McCain, in a lovely pink suit, is on the cover of the Newsweek issue that closes today. “Behind That Smile: Understanding Cindy McCain,” by Holly Bailey tells about the time the McCains’ daughter, Bridget, Googles herself, learns about the South Carolina smears from 2000, and comes to Cindy to ask: "Why does President Bush hate me?"

Take three guesses!
There's a nigger in the GOP woodpile again


Bridgett - McPhilanderer's Macaca Love Child

30816. jexster - 6/21/2008 1:08:54 PM

Don't cry little Bridgett, most everyone hates him!

#
Bush
June 20 ARG
Approve 25%, Disapprove 71%

30817. jexster - 6/21/2008 1:10:15 PM

Obama: They're Going To Try To Make You Afraid Of Me

At a Florida fundraiser yesterday, Barack Obama spoke bluntly about the campaign ahead. "They're going to try to make you afraid of me," he told attendees. "He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?"

30818. jexster - 6/21/2008 1:17:54 PM

Word up from Lousiana last night.

A source close to the Landrieu campaign told me she's lookin like a lock.

Says the GOP candidate Kennedy is a real loser.
Not uncommon for Republican candidates these days. Seems nobody worth a shit wants to run as one.

In any event, with Lautenberg facing another loser in NJ, there are currently ZERO Dem senate seats at risk in 2008


Mentum needs to look for another job

30819. jexster - 6/21/2008 1:50:18 PM

And the Bushies need to take care with their foreign travel next year

McBush War Criminals - Cheney Linked to Gulag Torture

They hate American values

30820. robertjayb - 6/21/2008 1:52:26 PM

In the wake of Friday's democratic capitulation on the FISA amendment, today's BooMan Tribune offers thoughtful commentary and plenty of opportunity for gnashing of teeth.

30821. jexster - 6/21/2008 1:55:13 PM

Fascism is as fascism does...

"Verschärfte Vernehmung"
"Enhanced Interrogation" in the Gestapo

30822. jexster - 6/21/2008 1:56:00 PM

Steady Robert, steady
Don't let your knees jerk


Help is on the way!

30823. jexster - 6/21/2008 2:03:06 PM

Does McShame STILL Hate America?



Who's wearing Old Gorey now?








Missteps? How exactly is McShame's hatred of the holy Flag a "misstep" TD?
Please explain this


Analysis: McCain hampered by campaign missteps

Dateline OTTOWA - the traitor flees like a goddamn draft dodger

30824. jexster - 6/21/2008 2:10:04 PM

If you look closely, you will see that McShame FINALLY mustered the courage to wear a flag lapel pin

Only one problem here...The Traitor's pin has the CANADIAN flag on it!

Is John McShame so ashamed of his country????

30825. jexster - 6/21/2008 2:12:58 PM

Maybe he should try paying some attention to the AMERICAN ECONOMY!

"I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues."

Considering what the 100 years Warrior knows about the latter....maybe he should spend some time with the ECONOMIC CLUB OF AMERICA!

30826. jexster - 6/21/2008 2:18:45 PM

Obama’s War Chest Drives a 50-State Strategy

Canada only has 14 provinces
Is that why McIdiot decided to campaign there and raise illegal campaign contributions from foreigners?

30827. arkymalarky - 6/21/2008 2:46:35 PM

I'm very unhappy with Obama's chickenshit fisa vote. If a letter writing campaign of his supporters has started, let me know where to sign up. If not, it needs to. I don't regret my support of him at all--vote for vote and in general he's still my pick.

Around here if you know someone who may be on meth you tell them to beware of the crank monster. He needs to beware of the hubris monster. This vote and his lame bullshit explanation of ot reminded me of Bill Clinton.

30828. arkymalarky - 6/21/2008 3:00:02 PM

Hmm. I noticed Vic Snyder's on that list. He's one of the most liberal people in congress. Strange.that makes me wonder if they've got something going on. Would be nice to think so, but not likely.

I've seen that done on the state level, and since I knew the inside baseball I wasn't upset, but people who didn't were mortified and the opposition was ecstatic. My favorite moment in politics, ever, was watching that turn around before our very eyes, beginning with the fury of the legislator whose bill was sabotaged and who caught on in front of everybody. Still makes me smile thinking about it.

30829. jexster - 6/21/2008 3:16:03 PM

O'Bama Slams McSame Over Midwest Floods
Bushies MiniMe Voted Against Levee Upgrade Funds

Maybe the Old Fossil should spend less time hustling Canadian dollars

30830. jexster - 6/21/2008 3:18:04 PM

I hear crank causes spastic knee jerks Arky


These men can help you

30831. jexster - 6/21/2008 3:20:21 PM

Sure they've got something going on.

Do I need to paint a picture?


If we can take back our country...They won't get away with this shit


Even though I blistered Miss Nancy for going all girlie on me, it's obvious that they punted to the next President

30832. arkymalarky - 6/21/2008 3:22:30 PM

You explain his vote to me and we'll have a mote vote over who exhibits signs of a monster having gotten hold of him. Or her.

30833. arkymalarky - 6/21/2008 3:25:03 PM

Nonono. That doesn't work. Too much time to Janary for that.

30834. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/21/2008 3:25:06 PM

30835. jexster - 6/21/2008 3:33:45 PM

GREAT WIZZER!

30836. jexster - 6/21/2008 3:35:23 PM

He's taking an issue away from the GOP.
All will be taken care of in due time...


Finally it's great to have a Democrat who is willing to stand up to Muslim terrorism

For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
nor are your ways my ways, says the Lord.
or as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

May God inflict crippling arthritis on all jerking left knees. Amen

30837. arkymalarky - 6/21/2008 3:51:54 PM

Or just all jerks. ;->

30838. jexster - 6/21/2008 4:46:42 PM

Some neighbors are having an O'Bama bake sale around the corner

From the looks of these cookies, they had Hillary doin the baking

Can you bake Arky?
I can get you a gig


Seems you can't figure out how to show O your jerking knees

WritersForObama
On FISA
By Tricia - Jun 21st, 2008 at 12:06 pm EDT


All against this vote, consider leaving a comment on the website. Just look under contact us, and let Barack know where you stand on this. We need to hold him accountable to the promises he made to us regarding our civil liberties.

If he gets hundreds or thousands of comments from regular supporters, perhaps he will change his mind.



Tricia

30839. jexster - 6/21/2008 4:46:53 PM

Perhaps NOT

30840. jexster - 6/21/2008 4:47:57 PM

Tricia Christianson's MyBo Blog

30841. jexster - 6/21/2008 5:07:47 PM

Looks like Concerned's Swift Boat done sprung a leak...

I guess they haven't heard he's a muslim

Do they know he's black??????


Stephen Mansfield has unexpectedly nice things to say about Barack Obama.

The conservative Evangelical biographer of George W. Bush and Tom DeLay has moved on to a new subject: Barack Obama. And his new book, due out this summer, may lend credibility to Senator Obama's bid to win Evangelical Christian voters away from the Republican Party.


Oh well, maybe TD can have a bake sale to help the bankrupt GOP Slime Boats

Get em out of drydock before Obama fools em.

O'Bama Launches Major Outreach to Centrist Catholics and Evangelicals
Christians Impressed with Barack's Deep Faith - just don't trust McShame

And why should they?

He loved America so little he sold it out for a bowl of noodles and a couple of uncle ho's skanky hos

For Obama, faith is not simply political garb, something a focus group told him he ought to try. Instead, religion to him is transforming, lifelong, and real. Obama's faith infuses his public policy, so that his faith is not just limited to the personal realms of his life, it also informs his leadership
Steven Mansfield
Author, The Faith of George W. Bush

Baptize CONCERNED NOW!

30842. jexster - 6/21/2008 5:08:07 PM

Cllr's already signed up!

30843. jexster - 6/21/2008 5:11:12 PM

Barack Hussein Obama and Rick Warren "America's Pastor"

30844. arkymalarky - 6/21/2008 7:30:13 PM

Go Tricia!

I'm a gourmet burner. It's a running joke at work potlucks. If I don't buy it, they don't eat it.

30845. David Ehrenstein - 6/22/2008 9:18:14 AM

30846. jexster - 6/22/2008 11:52:08 AM

Thank God he's ascended! Lockup Brushy Mountain is back on

But I think He's still dead

30847. jexster - 6/22/2008 11:54:27 AM

Hanoi John: Born to Betray

How McShame's Lobbyist Pals Stole the New AF Tanker Project from Americans and Sold Out to France

30848. jexster - 6/22/2008 12:37:50 PM

Obama Takes Aim at Oil Speculators
Readies Plan to Close McGramm's Enron Loophole

30849. jexster - 6/22/2008 1:29:40 PM

With O'Bama's Gentle Tutelage, Hill Stages Comeback!

Like I always say
A little Bword beatin goes a long way

30850. jexster - 6/22/2008 1:35:24 PM

So THIS is where I bought those Hillary-class cookies yesterday

MoveOn Holds 700 Bakes Sales for O'Bama

30851. jexster - 6/22/2008 2:19:22 PM

McSame 2008
Mass Malaise: McBush Legacy

WASHINGTON - Is everything spinning out of control? Midwestern levees are bursting. Polar bears are adrift. Gas prices are skyrocketing. Home values are abysmal. Air fares, college tuition and health care border on unaffordable. Wars without end rage in Iraq, Afghanistan and against terrorism.



Horatio Alger, twist in your grave.

The can-do, bootstrap approach embedded in the American psyche is under assault. Eroding it is a dour powerlessness that is chipping away at the country's sturdy conviction that destiny can be commanded with sheer courage and perseverance.

Associated Press-Ipsos poll conducted by Ipsos Public Affairs. June 12-16, 2008.

"Generally speaking, would you say things in this country are heading in the right direction, or are they off on the wrong track?"

Right
Direction 17
Wrong
Track 76

30852. jexster - 6/22/2008 2:24:53 PM

Wonkers just reminded me that Robert and others might feel left out.

Thanks for the HeadsUP Wonk!

Hi,

I just took the next step towards owning a piece of the political process; I made a donation to Barack Obama's presidential campaign.

But it's going to take more than just me and the others who've acted so far.

It's going to take a movement. It's going to take millions of people to beat back the avalanche of dollars from Washington lobbyists and special interests, who are planning to spend more money than ever to try to own our political process and dictate our policies in Washington.

We're not going to play that game.

Barack Obama is not taking any contributions from Washington lobbyists or political action committees.

We're going to transform the political process by bringing together hundreds of thousands of ordinary Americans in a campaign that's owned by no one but the people.

Will you join us by making a donation?

https://donate.barackobama.com/donateinvite

30853. jexster - 6/22/2008 2:31:10 PM

Time: Pelosi's FISA Masterstroke
Dems Strike Blow Against McBush Terror

30854. jexster - 6/22/2008 2:36:07 PM

Help Work Out the Kink in Arky's Left Knee


I did

MoveOn Petition to O'Bama: Fight Telecomm Immunity O Fearsome Leader!

30855. jexster - 6/22/2008 2:41:21 PM

30856. jexster - 6/22/2008 2:43:00 PM

St. Chrisopher O'Bama for Christ haters like Concerned

30857. jexster - 6/22/2008 2:50:43 PM

Watching TOP Army Fighters (ultimate fighting competition) on the Military Channel


The commentators put it well - "When you bring it to America's enemy's you can hold nothing back"


John McShame's Bring It on Spirit

30858. jexster - 6/22/2008 2:53:55 PM

One enemy or many...that is

What better successor to the DeserterPresident than a bona-fide commie coward?

30859. jexster - 6/22/2008 3:07:59 PM

Appears that John McShame's looking for a lapel pin he can proudly display Old Glory

Last week he sported Old Gorey and the Maple Leaf


I should think that given all the helpful counseling that Castro's psychiatrist gave him FOR FREE, we might be able to coax the Old Fart to display pride of country with THIS





Let's put Old Glory on John McSame's lapel

Can I count on Concerned's support in my crusade?
OUR MOTTO:

Let it Fly by the 4th of JulY

30860. arkymalarky - 6/22/2008 4:08:09 PM

If it's like Time says I'm better about it, tho still leery. Vic Snyder supported it for a reason and I trust him explicitly. It is much better for your cause, whatever it is, to play smart than it is to follow principle without looking at how your cause will suffer with a hardline approach.I can't see the roadmap to the endgame clearly, so I still wonder, but I trust Snyder to operate in the best interest of his principles. I still don't like Opbama's explanation, but increasing Dem majorities is priority one.

30861. jexster - 6/22/2008 7:14:28 PM

Concerned Republicans:

Hate Group Internet Activity Up
Target=Obama

30862. jexster - 6/22/2008 7:18:44 PM

Well I knew it wouldn't be easy to be a race traitor.
Hillary made me do it guys!


Ah well..That's OK ..already crossed the Rubicon, stepped in the tar pit

30863. jexster - 6/22/2008 7:32:15 PM

WASHINGTON — The Marines, in full dress uniform, perform their summer drills in silence, flipping their rifles in near-perfect precision in front of the Iwo Jima memorial, illuminated by the glow of sunset.

One man, the guest of honor, stands stock-straight at the center of the pageantry, Marines on both sides, watching as they pass.

Order. Precision. Tradition....This is Jim Webb's world


And Jexie's

A world where men are men and bitches are damned glad of it

30864. jexster - 6/22/2008 10:31:07 PM

She could use a man in her life


As Long As We're Talking About Michelle Obama, Did You Know Cindy McCain Is A Drug Addict?

30865. wonkers2 - 6/23/2008 11:10:13 AM

Joementum for VP

30866. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/23/2008 12:04:17 PM

30867. jexster - 6/23/2008 1:02:33 PM

Thanks for reminding us Wiz!

The MSNBC Veepstakes returns this week now that Tim Russert has ascended to the right hand of the Father


McSame needs MENTUM now more than ever

Poll: Obama Holds Enormous "Voter Enthusiasm" Edge Over McCain

30868. jexster - 6/23/2008 1:35:25 PM

Barack Obama inspires Milan men's runway styles (SLIDESHOW)

30869. jexster - 6/23/2008 1:38:13 PM

Donatella Versace dedicated her Spring-Summer 2009 collection presented Saturday evening to Obama, creating a style she said was designed for "a relaxed man who doesn't need to flex muscles to show he has power."

Doesn't hurt

30870. jexster - 6/23/2008 1:42:25 PM

He Hates America


"Another attack on America would be good for McShame" advisor says

30871. jexster - 6/23/2008 2:14:08 PM

Running Hard for Vice President

30872. wonkers2 - 6/23/2008 2:42:27 PM

Jim Webb would be better. Something about Clark strikes me as a bit slippery.???

30873. jexster - 6/23/2008 2:53:49 PM

Is Lindsay Graham a peter puffer TOO?

Seems to be a qualification for high GOP office these days

The VP Frustrations of John McCain

Joe Klein reports over at Swampland that McCain's top three choices for VP, according to a source Klein trusts, are all automatic non-starters.

1. Former Governor Tom Ridge of Pennsylvania--McCain loves the guy, I'm told, and Ridge might bring Pa. into the Republican fold...but he's pro-choice. Fuggedaboutit.

2. Former Governor Jeb Bush of Florida--Ahhh, Florida. But, oy, that last name.

3. Senator Mel Martinez of Florida---Ahh, Florida....and brings Latinos, too! But born in Cuba, so ineligible for the office.

The same goes for McCain's top sidekicks, Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham. The first is technically an Independent Democrat and thus a big believer in choice and the second is dogged by persistent rumors about his sexuality.

30874. jexster - 6/23/2008 2:54:20 PM

Webb is decidedly more manly

30875. jexster - 6/23/2008 3:00:43 PM

Is Lindsey Graham gay?
Seven Minutes in Gay Hell: Is Lindsey Graham in S.C.'s airtight closet?

30876. jexster - 6/23/2008 4:00:47 PM

Double Talk Express Blows a Tire:
McShame Furiously Tries to Distance Himself from Charlie Black's Prayer for Terrorist Attack on US

30877. jexster - 6/23/2008 4:08:07 PM

Eat your wormy little heart out Robert

Dear John,

You have been such an inspiration to me during this campaign -- your commitment and your boundless enthusiasm made everything we accomplished in the last 17 months possible. So as I continue to make sure your voices are heard, I wanted to say a special thank you for all the hard work you did on my behalf.

Click here to watch my video message to you.

Thank you for everything,
Hillary

30878. jexster - 6/23/2008 4:53:43 PM

DENOUNCE and REJECT

Charles Black Regrets That He Hoped for Terrorist Slaughter of Americans

Who hates America?

30879. jexster - 6/23/2008 5:04:05 PM

Will the serial betrayer John McShame throw Poor Charles under the bus like he did his spiritual advisors, his first wife, and his Navy comrades in Vietnam?

30880. jexster - 6/23/2008 7:11:29 PM

AP:

Republican US presidential candidate John McCain,...got some unexpected support on Monday from his former Vietnam war jailer, who said he would vote for the former navy pilot if he could

No doubt

30881. thoughtful - 6/24/2008 9:20:38 AM

I'd rather see wes clark as sec def or sec state than vp. He'd be far more useful in either of those roles.

30882. wonkers2 - 6/24/2008 10:29:57 AM

I agree.

30883. jexster - 6/24/2008 1:03:23 PM

Obama right to drop public financing
Cries of 'naive' would be louder than those of 'hypocrite'
NBC News ANALYSIS
By Charlie Cook

Taught the boy everything he knows

30884. David Ehrenstein - 6/24/2008 1:59:26 PM

30885. jexster - 6/24/2008 3:56:08 PM

Poll: Obama And McCain Tied -- In Deep-Red Indiana!
By Eric Kleefeld - June 24, 2008, 2:42PM

Now this is something. A new SurveyUSA poll shows that Barack Obama is tied with John McCain in Indiana, a state that hasn't gone Democratic since the Lyndon Johnson landslide of 1964.

The numbers: Obama 48%, McCain 47%, within the ±4% margin of error. For some perspective, George W. Bush won this state by a whopping 60%-39% margin in 2004.

The Obama campaign made news a few days ago by sending a top staffer to this red state, and Indiana has also been included in their first big ad campaign of the general election.

30886. jexster - 6/24/2008 4:18:59 PM

Hillary Who?

Obama Opens 16 point lead in South Florida

30887. jexster - 6/24/2008 4:19:36 PM

9 point lead in the Failed State of Michigan

30888. jexster - 6/24/2008 4:36:24 PM

Hate America Inc.....

Analysis: Chiding aide, McCain forgets own remark

SANTA BARBARA, Calif. - John McCain wasted no time disawoving comments by an aide who suggested a terrorist attack on U.S. soil would boost his presidential campaign. McCain may have wanted to take a moment to consult the history books before he spoke.

The bitch is old

Give him a break

Besides, he needs help using a computer so couldn't google himself on the internets, much less YOuTube

30889. jexster - 6/24/2008 7:18:46 PM

LAT Poll: Obama Jumps To 12-Point National Lead Over McCain

Explains Charlie Black's frantic emails to Zawahiri don't it!

30890. jexster - 6/24/2008 7:21:28 PM

39-39 among white folk

30891. jexster - 6/24/2008 7:33:35 PM

O'Bama Bitch Slaps Dobson

Barack Obama said Tuesday evangelical leader James Dobson was "making stuff up" when he accused the presumed Democratic presidential nominee of distorting the Bible.

30892. jexster - 6/24/2008 7:54:49 PM

Job worries gotcha?
Can't make ends meet in the McBush stagflation?


John McKeyenes Model for the US Economy?
Join the EBay Salesforce

30893. jexster - 6/24/2008 7:55:16 PM

McKeynes

30894. jexster - 6/24/2008 8:23:58 PM

Pres '08
June 24 LAT/Bloomberg
Obama (D) 49%, McCain (R) 37%

Bush
June 24 LAT/Bloomberg
Approve 23%, Disapprove 73%

30895. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/24/2008 8:48:18 PM

30896. jexster - 6/24/2008 8:53:13 PM

Please don't do that Wizzer.

Robert will never come down from the tree Phil's beagles chased him up

30897. jexster - 6/24/2008 9:13:06 PM

First Democratic candidate doesn't duck for cover when these idiots start bloviating

Obama supporters also responded to Dobson.

The Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, a Methodist pastor from Texas and longtime supporter of President Bush who has endorsed Obama, said Tuesday he belongs to a group of religious leaders who, working independently of Obama's campaign, launched a Web site to counter Dobson at http://www.jamesdobsondoesntspeakforme.com. The site highlights statements from Obama and Dobson and asks visitors to compare them.

Caldwell said he has great respect for Dobson's advocacy for families, but said the criticism of Obama was "a bit over the top" and "crossed the line."

"There has been a call for a higher level of politics and politicking," Caldwell said. "So to attack at this level is inappropriate and I think unacceptable and we at least want to hold everybody accountable."

30898. jexster - 6/24/2008 9:17:19 PM

Occasionally, David Brooks gets it (so do blind monkeys)

God, Republicans are saps. They think that they’re running against some academic liberal who wouldn’t wear flag pins on his lapel, whose wife isn’t proud of America and who went to some liberationist church where the pastor damned his own country. They think they’re running against some naïve university-town dreamer, the second coming of Adlai Stevenson.

All I know for sure is that this guy is no liberal goo-goo. Republicans keep calling him naïve. But naïve is the last word I’d use to describe Barack Obama. He’s the most effectively political creature we’ve seen in decades..

30899. jexster - 6/24/2008 9:31:58 PM

Coattails???

GOP Senator Runs New Ad Touting His Work With Barack Obama


Obama, needless to say, DENOUNCED and REJECTED

30900. jexster - 6/24/2008 9:41:38 PM

McSame needs to close the MentumGap pronto

Moreover, McCain suffers from a pronounced "enthusiasm gap," especially among the conservatives who usually give Republican candidates a reliable base of support. Among voters who describe themselves as conservative, only 58% say they will vote for McCain; 15% say they will vote for Obama, 14% say they will vote for someone else, and 13% say they are undecided.

By contrast, 79% of voters who describe themselves as liberal say they plan to vote for Obama.

Even among voters who say they do plan to vote for McCain, more than half say they are "not enthusiastic" about their chosen candidate; only 45% say they are enthusiastic. By contrast, 81% of Obama voters say they are enthusiastic, and almost half call themselves "very enthusiastic," a level of zeal that only 13% of McCain's supporters display

30901. concerned - 6/25/2008 12:03:52 AM

Re. 30884 -

Turn that around with Wright, Farrakhan, Sharpton, Jackson et al, and you have rhetoric from these clowns right out of the nineteenth century.

I'll take the 21st century over the 19th century myself.

30902. concerned - 6/25/2008 12:04:46 AM

Say, DE -

Still ok for you to use the 'N' word, or just rejexst now?

30903. concerned - 6/25/2008 12:06:43 AM

cllrdr -

You get three guesses which party President Lincoln belonged to. First one doesn't count.

30904. concerned - 6/25/2008 12:07:36 AM

cllrdr -

Another quiz. You get three guesses which party 99.99% of KKK members belong to. First one doesn't count again.

30905. concerned - 6/25/2008 12:10:01 AM

Same thing regarding which party destroyed the black family.

30906. alistairconnor - 6/25/2008 10:34:18 AM

My favourite bit from the LAT poll:
Nader was the choice of 4% of respondents, Barr of 3%. Nader is seeking to place his name on the ballot as an independent in at least 45 states and so far has succeeded in four. Barr's Libertarian Party is on the ballot in 30 states and is working on the remaining 20.

O ate Nader's base, he can't even get on the ballot...
But maybe the Dems could give him a hand... he seems to pull support exclusively from McCain, not Obama... Still thinking about that one!

30907. jexster - 6/25/2008 11:06:37 AM

CA-Pres
June 25 RasmussenObama (D) 58%, McCain (R) 30%

30908. jexster - 6/25/2008 11:08:37 AM

So everyone will know why TD is lying today

30909. jexster - 6/25/2008 11:14:46 AM

White House Refused to Open EPA E-Mail
Last December the White House refused to accept the EPA's conclusion that greenhouse gasses must be regulated-- by not opening the email they'd sent.


I do that from time to time myself. If you know what it is going to say, why surrender your deniability?

30910. jexster - 6/25/2008 11:18:08 AM

"Fifty years from now in a civics class, students will learn about the Lincoln Memorial, that other presidents are on Mount Rushmore - and George W. Bush got a sewage plant," he said. "It will prompt people to ask why, and they can discuss the Iraq war, and everything that led to
it. People want to forget bad moments of history, and this is our way of making sure that doesn't happen." Sponsor SF Ballot Initiative to Rename Sewage Plant for GWB

30911. jexster - 6/25/2008 11:48:37 AM

Business Week: McSame's Tax Programs Benefit the Very Rich, O'bama's favor low and middle income relief

30912. jexster - 6/25/2008 1:30:26 PM

Mentum the Movie



God I love that man!

30913. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/25/2008 5:15:22 PM

Get his other lap dog on it.

30914. Max Macks - 6/25/2008 7:41:42 PM

Bush at 23%

that didn't seem to make news in much
of the news sites.
23%

Has any POTUS have lower rating?

30915. robertjayb - 6/25/2008 9:50:08 PM

The sage of Omaha sees deep do-do...

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) -- Billionaire Warren Buffett has already
said he thinks the U.S. economy is in a recession, and now he says the economy is getting worse.

Buffett told CNBC in a live interview Wednesday that all the data he sees from Berkshire Hathaway Inc. subsidiaries shows the economy weakening.

"Everything connected with construction and with consumer, I see weakness, and if anything, it's accentuating a little bit."

Buffett also said he thinks inflation is picking up, especially in steel and oil, so it should be a concern for the Federal Reserve.

30916. Wombat - 6/25/2008 10:19:40 PM

For someone who wants to leave the 19th Century behind, Unhinged goes back there a lot when it comes to Lincoln Republicans and the origins of the Klan. Why he seems unable to recognize that times have changed must be between him and his IQ.

30917. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/26/2008 3:56:50 PM

While McNumbNuts wallows in the 20th . . .

30918. concerned - 6/26/2008 4:30:38 PM

The gun grabbers are so pissed that they could.....shoot somebody

30919. concerned - 6/26/2008 4:33:27 PM

Hizzoner had this to say of the recent USSC decision:

“Does this lead to everyone having a gun in our society?” he said at a news conference. “If they think that’s the answer, then they’re greatly mistaken. Then, why don’t we do away with the court system and go back to the Old West? You have a gun and I have a gun and we’ll settle in the streets.

“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.”

“They’re changing the rules,” Mr. Daley said of the Supreme Court. “Why should we as a city not be able to protect ourselves from those who want guns in our society?”

30920. concerned - 6/26/2008 4:34:57 PM

Oops. Looks like Daley slipped into National Socialist mode there for a moment.

30921. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/26/2008 4:39:59 PM

30922. jexster - 6/26/2008 6:37:19 PM

30915 - also Sage of Schwarznegger - Served as Econ adviser during campaigns

30923. jexster - 6/26/2008 6:38:13 PM

TX-Pres
June 26 Texas Lyceum
McCain (R) 43%, Obama (D) 38%


TX-SEN
June 26 Texas Lyceum
Cornyn (R) 38%, Noriega (D) 36%

30924. jexster - 6/26/2008 7:00:32 PM

30919 - Nazi Gun Control - Another WingNut Lie

It was a Weimar enactment designed to prevent the Nazi Stormtroopers from carrying guns and defending themselves


The Nazi's licensed and registerd firearms and gun ownership was quite widespread in Germany

30925. jexster - 6/26/2008 7:44:12 PM

Here's to the state of Mississippi!


MS-Pres
June 26 Rasmussen
McCain (R) 50%, Obama (D) 44%

MS-SEN
June 26 Rasmussen
Musgrove (D) 47%, Wicker (R) 46%

30926. jexster - 6/26/2008 7:56:44 PM

Daley never used the quote about "subject races" either.

That was Hitler and he was talking about Poles, slavs, jews etc not Germans. He may have been many things but he wasn't stoopid. Arming the fucking Poles and Russians!

30927. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/26/2008 9:25:24 PM

Slippery worms on a blunt hook . . .

30928. robertjayb - 6/26/2008 10:09:20 PM

BooMan cites a Capitol Hill source:

1. There will be no FISA votes before recess.

2. We will have the FISA vote on Tuesday July 8th, which will feature an up or down vote on Dodd/Feingold amendment to strip out retroactive immunity.

3. Senator Dodd will be controlling the 2 hour debate time leading up to the debate on the Dodd/Feingold amendment with Senator Leahy getting 10 mins.

4. Following the votes on amendment(s) there will be another cloture vote.

5. Prior to the cloture vote, there will be up to 60 minutes for debate equally divided and controlled between the Leaders or their designees, with Senator Leahy controlling 10 minutes. Senator Feingold will control an additional 30 minutes and Senator Dodd will control an additional 15 minutes.

30929. jexster - 6/27/2008 11:29:40 AM

The McBush Recession is Just Beginning

30930. jexster - 6/27/2008 11:36:28 AM

The guy has no shame when it comes to stoopid political gimmicks


Norway May Have Already Won McGimmick's 300 Million Dollar Battery Stakes

30931. concerned - 6/27/2008 1:11:41 PM

Re. 30926 -

Throw jexster a milkbone - he fingered it out. But that Hitler excerpt kinda fit in with those Daley comments, didn't it? The Nazis, Soviets and the US Left were/are big gun grabbers - sorta tells you something.

30932. jexster - 6/27/2008 2:35:05 PM

Actually NO ,,,that's a lie too

Why do right wingers lie so often?

As I linked...

On Gun Registration, the NRA, Adolf Hitler, and Nazi Gun Laws: Exploding the Gun Culture Wars

BERNARD E. HARCOURT
University of Chicago - Law School June 2004

U of Chicago, Public Law Working Paper No. 67


Abstract:
Say the words "gun registration" to many pro-gun Americans and you are likely to hear that one of the first things that Hitler did when he seized power was to impose strict gun registration requirements that enabled him to identify gun owners and then to confiscate all guns, effectively disarming his opponents and paving the way for the Holocaust. One of the more curious twists in the historical debate, though, is that the most vocal opponent of this argument is also pro-gun. It is the National Alliance, a white supremacist organization. According to them, "German Firearms legislation under Hitler, far from banning private ownership, actually facilitated the keeping and bearing of arms by German citizens by eliminating or ameliorating restrictive laws which had been enacted by the government preceding his." So which pro-gunner should we believe?

Following Germany's defeat in World War I, the Weimar Republic passed very strict gun control laws in an attempt both to stabilize the country and to comply with the Versailles Treaty of 1919 - laws that in fact required the surrender of all guns to the government. These laws remained in effect until 1928, when the German parliament relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm-licensing scheme. These strict licensing regulations foreshadowed Hitler's rise to power.

If you read the 1938 Nazi gun laws closely and compare them to earlier 1928 Weimar gun legislation - as a straightforward exercise of statutory interpretation - several conclusions become clear. First, with regard to possession and carrying of firearms, the Nazi regime relaxed the gun laws that were in place in Germany at the time the Nazis seized power. Second, the Nazi gun laws of 1938 specifically banned Jewish persons from obtaining a license to manufacture firearms or ammunition. Third, approximately eight months after enacting the 1938 Nazi gun laws, Hitler imposed regulations prohibiting Jewish persons from possessing any dangerous weapons, including firearms.

The difficult question is how to characterize the Nazi treatment of the Jewish population for purposes of evaluating Hitler's position on gun control. Truth is, the question itself is absurd. The Nazis sought to disarm and kill the Jewish population. Their treatment of Jews is, in this sense, orthogonal to their gun-control views. Nevertheless, if forced to take a position, it seems that the Nazis aspired to a certain relaxation of gun registration laws for the "law-abiding German citizen" - for those who were not, in their minds, "enemies of the National Socialist state," in other words, Jews, Communists, etc.

30933. jexster - 6/27/2008 2:58:13 PM

History aside, it is patently ridiculous to argue that owning a handgun is some sort of safeguard of liberty or a semi-automatic rifle or even my fave a 12 gauge load with OO

Ludicrous argument...give us shoulder launched anti-aircraft missiles, third generation anti-tank weaponry and give me the right to bear a LeClerc


The weaponry necessary to guard liberty has long been illegal and according to Scalia, that's just fine.


Demand Your Right to Own the Beast!
LeClerc Main Battle Tank

30934. jexster - 6/27/2008 4:05:19 PM

David Plouffe strategy video

30935. concerned - 6/27/2008 5:22:34 PM

Re. 30932 -

No. Actually, you're a mental derelict who can't tell the truth from falsehoods.

30936. concerned - 6/27/2008 5:24:26 PM

Hussein says the USA needs Hilliary

So rejexst had better drop his racist & sexist Hilliary bullshit immediately, if not sooner since his Obamessiah has commanded him to do so.

30937. concerned - 6/27/2008 5:26:08 PM

What part of "Lefties are bigoted gun grabbers." does rejexst have a problem with?

30938. concerned - 6/27/2008 5:42:19 PM

Re. 30924 -

This from a site that sports articles titled 'Our Aryan Values'.

Rejexst - are you officially a Nazi?

30939. jexster - 6/27/2008 5:47:08 PM

Do wingnut Republicans have to take Lie Courses before they run for public office?

China Drilling for Oil in Gulf Off of Cuba

30940. jexster - 6/27/2008 5:49:09 PM

I gave the Bitch 10 bucks for all the memories

30941. concerned - 6/27/2008 6:01:33 PM

Re. 30939 -

Is that the course that Hussein is perfesser of, along with 'Chicago Machine Politics Nationalized' and 'Turning Ignorance into Elitism'?

30942. jexster - 6/27/2008 6:04:28 PM

Chicago Law School....idiots need not apply

30943. jexster - 6/27/2008 6:07:22 PM

America's Top Law Schools
Rankings for 2008

First-Tier Law Schools

1 Harvard Law School

2 Stanford Law School
2 Yale Law School

4 Columbia Law School
4 NYU School of Law
4 University of Chicago Law School

30944. concerned - 6/27/2008 6:14:39 PM

The question jexster is avoiding:

What good is a law school that graduates dumbfucks who don't even have a clue as to how many states there are in the Union?

30945. concerned - 6/27/2008 6:18:51 PM

Maxine Waters warns Shell president in House committee hearing

A report by Fox News, captured in a clip posted on YouTube.com (Must see video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ) , showed Waters challenging the president of Shell Oil, John Hofmeister, to guarantee the prices consumers pay will go down if the oil companies are allowed to drill wherever they want off of U.S. shores.

Hofmeister replied: "I can guarantee to the American people, because of the inaction of the United States Congress, ever-increasing prices unless the demand comes down."

The Shell exec said paying $5 at the pump "will look like a very low price in the years to come if we are prohibited from finding new reserves, new opportunities to increase supplies."

Waters responded, in part, "And guess what this liberal would be all about. This liberal will be about socializing … uh, um. …"

The congresswoman paused to collect her thoughts [for about 5-6 seconds this went on, while her colleagues behind her laughed].

"...would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your companies. …"

Or something. Maybe rejexst can tell us what top notch school Waters was excreted from.

30946. concerned - 6/27/2008 6:39:13 PM

Remember what I said about Democrats and the stock market? With Hussein the Democrat candidate, the economy is already circling the drain. All voters have to do is pull the handle for Hussein in November to flush the economy.

30947. concerned - 6/27/2008 6:58:18 PM

Flood Ravaged Iowans Idiotically Move On

30948. concerned - 6/27/2008 7:29:27 PM

Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy or: Instant Slums - just add Hussein

30949. robertjayb - 6/27/2008 10:21:21 PM

Wesley Clark and the odious Lieberman on Face the Nation...

Face the Nation Campaign 2008; North Korea: McCain supporter Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), Obama supporter retired Gen. Wesley Clark; David Sanger, the New York Times. Moderator Bob Schieffer.

Could be worth a look-see.

30950. jexster - 6/27/2008 10:26:07 PM

Remember what I said about Democrats and the stock market?


Before going to bed each night I'll have to start collecting the day's pearls of pigshit

I count 7 lies just today

30951. jexster - 6/27/2008 10:28:50 PM

30945


The same one Arnold Schwarzenegger and any honest expert you can find


Tax those assholes' monopoly profits NOW

30952. jexster - 6/27/2008 10:29:30 PM

You couldn't even clean toilets at the University of Chicago

30953. jexster - 6/27/2008 10:34:28 PM

Welcome to McBush World

New York - Oil futures climbed to a new record near $143 a barrel Friday as the dollar weakened against the euro, confirming expectations that the falling greenback, a major factor in crude's stratospheric rise, will extend its decline and add to oil's appeal.

30954. jexster - 6/27/2008 10:36:18 PM

Maybe the GOP should try telling Americans the Truth for Once...


OH HAPPY DAY!

National Republican Congressional Campaign: "There are no safe GOP house seats

30955. jexster - 6/27/2008 10:47:37 PM

Piles of lies....


Surprise: Dems are better for rallies
Despite 'market friendly' Republican policies, stocks rise more and volatility dips under Democrats.

Not a surprise to me. I have known this for decades

30956. jexster - 6/27/2008 11:00:14 PM

This oughta inspire GOP Confidence

McCain: I'll Overtake Obama 48 Hours Before The Election

30957. wonkers2 - 6/27/2008 11:09:30 PM

His friends are planning another swiftboat attack no doubt. This time it won't work.

30958. jexster - 6/28/2008 10:18:09 AM

Sound Familiar???

The e-mail landed in Danielle Allen's queue one winter morning as she was studying in her office at the Institute for Advanced Study, the renowned haven for some of the nation's most brilliant minds. The missive began: "THIS DEFINITELY WARRANTS LOOKING INTO."

Sewer That Concerned Crawled Out of DISCOVERED!

An Attack That Came Out of the Methane

Laid out before Allen, a razor-sharp, 36-year-old political theorist, was what purported to be a biographical sketch of Barack Obama that has become one of the most effective -- and baseless -- Internet attacks of the 2008 presidential season. The anonymous chain e-mail makes the false claim that Obama is concealing a radical Islamic background. By the time it reached Allen on Jan. 11, 2008, it had spread with viral efficiency for more than a year.

How Rumors Are Born

Allen was ideally suited to embark on such a difficult hunt. She boasts two doctorates, one in classics from Cambridge University and the other in government from Harvard University, and won a $500,000 MacArthur "genius" award at the age of 29. Last year she joined the faculty of the institute, the only African American and one of a handful of women at the elite research center, where she works alongside groundbreaking physicists, mathematicians and social scientists. They don't have to teach, and they face no quotas on what they publish. Their only mandate is to work in the tradition of Einstein, wrestling with the most vexing problems in the universe.

While Allen was already an expert on the mechanics of politics, she fast began to learn the mechanics of the Internet. She discovered, for instance, that the recipe for launching a chain e-mail attack is not as simple as typing it up and hitting the send button to a long list of recipients. It takes effort to seed a chain mail that spreads as widely as the Obama missive, explained Jeff Bedser, president of the Internet Crimes Group, a company that helps corporations battle such broadsides. "Lighting that fire, getting something to have momentum, takes work," he said.

Allen discovered that theories about Obama's religious background had circulated for many years on the Internet. And that the man who takes credit for posting the first article to assert that the Illinois senator was a Muslim is Andy Martin.

Martin, a former political opponent of Obama's, is the publisher of an Internet newspaper who sends e-mails to his mailing list almost daily. He said in an interview that he first began questioning Obama's religious background after hearing his famous keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. In an Aug. 10, 2004, article, which he posted on Web sites and e-mailed to bloggers, he said that Obama had concealed his Muslim heritage....

30959. jexster - 6/28/2008 12:34:42 PM

National Association for the Advancement of Beaners

McMaimed - heckled
O'Bama - LOVE HIM..several standing O!s

The word is out through the Latino grapevine. Carlos Robleto the building mgr (I bote bor Heeelary, Cleentons good) stopped me on the stair.."Hey Yon I bote for Obama"

I swear they have a network ...I have heard the same lines in political campaigns from Beaner after Beaner

30960. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/28/2008 12:49:53 PM

Don't underestimate the angry fools factor . . .



about this book

A raucous, truth-telling look at the white working poor-and why they hate liberalism.

Deer Hunting with Jesus is web columnist Joe Bageant’s report on what he learned when he moved back to his hometown of Winchester, Virginia, which-like countless American small towns-is fast becoming the bedrock of a permanent underclass. By turns brutal, tender, incendiary, and seriously funny, this book is a call to arms for fellow progressives with little real understanding of "the great beery, NASCAR-loving, church-going, gun-owning America that has never set foot in a Starbucks."


about the author

Joe Bageant writes an online column (www.joebageant.com) that has made him a cult hero among gonzo-journalism junkies and progressives. He has been interviewed on Air America and comments on America’s long history of religious fundamentalism in the BBC/Owl documentary The Vision: Americans on America. Until recently he worked as a senior editor for the Primedia History Magazine Group. Bageant and his wife recently downsized their lives in America so that Joe could spend half the year in Belize, where he writes and sponsors a small development project with the Black Carib families of Hopkins Village.

30961. jexster - 6/28/2008 2:24:03 PM

Look what the French done did

Open Hostilities Break Out Between GOP Senators on EuroTanker McDeal

30962. jexster - 6/28/2008 10:18:51 PM

The Name's JEXSTER HUSSEIN

Obama Supporters Take His Middle Name as Their Own


Emily Nordling has never met a Muslim, at least not to her knowledge. But this spring, Ms. Nordling, a 19-year-old student from Fort Thomas, Ky., gave herself a new middle name on Facebook.com, mimicking her boyfriend and shocking her father.

“Emily Hussein Nordling,” her entry now reads.

With her decision, she joined a growing band of supporters of Senator Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, who are expressing solidarity with him by informally adopting his middle name.

The result is a group of unlikely-sounding Husseins: Jewish and Catholic, Hispanic and Asian and Italian-American, from Jaime Hussein Alvarez of Washington, D.C., to Kelly Hussein Crowley of Norman, Okla., to Sarah Beth Hussein Frumkin of Chicago.

Jeff Strabone of Brooklyn now signs credit card receipts with his newly assumed middle name, while Dan O’Maley of Washington, D.C., jiggered his e-mail account so his name would appear as “D. Hussein O’Maley.” Alex Enderle made the switch online along with several other Obama volunteers from Columbus, Ohio, and now friends greet him that way in person, too.


NUMMY...

30963. wonkers2 - 6/29/2008 10:46:32 AM

The David Addington-John Yoo House hearing is being re-broadcast on C-Span 1 today as I type.

30964. jexster - 6/29/2008 11:22:18 AM

That was then....

McExperience welcomed Ahmed Chalabi, leader of the Iraqi National Congress (INC), to Washington and pressured the administration to give him money. When General Anthony Zinni cast doubt upon the effectiveness of the Iraqi opposition, McCain rebuked him at a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee...

Chalabi Receive Warm Welcome in Tehran, Blasts US


We sure could use another decade of experience like that

30965. jexster - 6/29/2008 11:34:54 AM

John McAhmed said

Chalabi’s a patriot who has the best interests of his country at heart.” '

30966. jexster - 6/29/2008 1:22:31 PM

Thank you John McGramm

No matter how you fiddle with terms of their present situation, it’s not going to save the day” for many borrowers, said Bert Ely, a housing finance consultant based in Washington. “They are not in a good financial situation because they have lost their jobs and they are overburdened with credit cards and home equity loans.”

"They" are the three million mortagees in or near foreclosure and the the two million following hard behind



The Senators from McEnron

30967. jexster - 6/29/2008 1:58:29 PM

Cole:

Sunday afternoon viewing:

Ron Paul on Iran and the energy crisis. He argues that speculation about a US or Israeli strike on Iran is driving some of the increase in oil prices.

The OPEC president should know a thing or two about what drives oil prices and he agrees.

30968. jexster - 6/29/2008 2:01:32 PM

30969. jexster - 6/29/2008 7:08:33 PM

Just because Ron Paul's from Texas don't mean he's a total idiot. As Seymour Hersh points out in his latest Preparing the Battle Field, Bush has been conducting covert operations for some time

Paul is talking about HCON Res 362, the "Iran War Resolution" which is coming to a vote on July 8

30970. jexster - 6/29/2008 8:45:12 PM

It's been obvious for 2-3 years now that Wes Clark's been running for SOMETHING. No great secret to anyone on his email list..always raising money for some Senate or Gov candidate then Hillary

Today with Mentum co-appearing on Face


Clark Slams McLame as Military Fraud

Gen. Wesley Clark, acting as a surrogate for Barack Obama’s campaign, invoked John McCain’s military service against him in one of the more personal attacks on the Republican presidential nominee this election cycle.

30971. jexster - 6/30/2008 10:51:14 AM

Lee Iacocca:

' "Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder. We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, "Stay the course."

"Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not the Titanic. I'll give you a sound bite: Throw the bums out!

30972. jexster - 6/30/2008 11:32:40 AM

#
AZ-Pres
June 29 Rasmussen
McCain (R) 49%,
Obama (D) 40%


#
VA-Pres
June 29 SurveyUSA
Obama (D) 49%, McCain (R) 47%

30973. jexster - 6/30/2008 11:48:44 AM

McConnell Concedes GOP Senate Defeat in 2008

30974. robertjayb - 6/30/2008 12:02:58 PM

How low can he go?

Seven months before the end of his term, President Bush's approval rating is at an all-time low.

In the just-released Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll, the president won approval from 23% of all registered voters -- including 3% of Democrats and 58% of Republicans. Those numbers are down from February, when he had an approval rating of 35%. His high mark, according to the poll, was in November 2001, just after the 9/11 terror attacks, when the president's popularity rating among registered voters was at 85%.

30975. Max Macks - 6/30/2008 2:08:38 PM

can someone up date last list of
cOMMENTARY

I have just read in the June 23 New Yorker mag
about Keith Olbermann
who I never heard of before but would like to read
his blog if he has one.

Molly Ivins , alas has been dead for a year.

30976. wonkers2 - 6/30/2008 4:14:38 PM

You can watch Olberman on CNBC at 8pm. Also there are plenty of Olberman YouTube videos. Olberman is da man!

30977. David Ehrenstein - 6/30/2008 7:48:26 PM

Most Hilarious News Story of The Day!

30978. jexster - 6/30/2008 8:36:10 PM

Max...Olberman replays on MSNBC at 8 pacific

30979. jexster - 6/30/2008 8:37:36 PM

My god the LATimes has flip flopped!

Not really.

How does President Bush lie?
Let Cy Bolton count the memos.


In the face of overwhelming evidence, it's astounding that people such as James Kirchick, in "Bush never lied to us about Iraq," continue to defend the president against accusations that he intentionally misled and outright lied to the American people in making the case for war with Iraq.

30980. jexster - 6/30/2008 8:57:17 PM

Ho's Go-To Collaborator

"Hero" John McCain as Phony and Collaborator:
What Really Happened When He Was a POW?
Alexander Cockburn

John McCain’s been getting kid-glove treatment from the press for years, ever since he wriggled free of the Keating scandal and his profitable association – another collaboration, you might say -- with the nation’s top bank swindler in the 1980s. But nothing equals the astounding tact with which his claque on the press bus avoids the topic of McCain’s collaborating with his Vietnamese captors after he’d been shot down.

The man's as phony as a 3 dollar bill

30981. jexster - 6/30/2008 9:05:27 PM

Honestly, besides being tortured, what did McCain do to excel in the military?



It's not "nice" to ask the question, but it's actually a pretty good question. Yes, we all know that John McCain was captured and tortured in Vietnam (McCain won't let you forget). A lot of people don't know, however, that McCain made a propaganda tape for the enemy while he was in captivity. Putting that bit of disloyalty aside, what exactly is McCain's military experience that prepares him for being commander in chief

30982. jexster - 6/30/2008 9:17:30 PM

Eric should join the Mote...we've been treated to CLOWNcerned's comedy for years


Black GOP Group Running Ads Calling Obama "Elitist"
By Eric Kleefeld - June 30, 2008, 5:50PM
And now for a bit of happy hour comic relief. A group called the National Black Republican Association -- which previously achieved minor infamy for some really inflammatory and historically-inaccurate radio ads in the Maryland Senate race -- has set a new goal: Turn African-American voters against Barack Obama.

The Huffington Post's Sam Stein reports that the NBRA has unveiled a new set of radio ads that it plans to run in battleground states on black radio stations, but they haven't yet clarified exactly when or how big their buy will be. The ads manage the neat trick of sliming both the Democratic Party as racist and Obama as elitist:

30983. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/30/2008 9:54:14 PM

30984. OhioSTOPAS - 7/1/2008 6:41:54 AM

A general says captains don't know much.

This is news?

30985. OhioSTOPAS - 7/1/2008 6:53:39 AM

"SCHIEFFER: Can I just interrupt you? I have to say, Barack Obama hasn’t had any of these experiences either, nor has he ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down.

"CLARK: I don’t think getting in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to become president."

Clark's most-quoted line was simply a repeat of Bob Schieffer's choice of words, and Schieffer's silly suggestion that having "ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down" was a qualification to be President.

But by all means, let the faux outrage (fauxtrage?) continue!

30986. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/1/2008 9:45:10 AM

The Rogues In Robes

30987. jexster - 7/1/2008 11:55:48 AM

Pakistani Ambassador: US Diplomacy a "Complete Failure"


Worst president ever

30988. jexster - 7/1/2008 11:59:26 AM

While Wonkers and his fellow failed state plutocrats ply the waters in their summer regattas....


DETROIT - With General Motors shares trading near their lowest levels in more than half a century and gasoline prices rising to record levels, the auto industry braced to deliver another bleak monthly report on auto sales.



Industry analysts said June sales could drop to their lowest monthly rate in 16 years, with several predicting another double-digit dip.

Toyota Motor Corp. could even grab the U.S. sales lead from General Motors Corp. for the first time.

30989. jexster - 7/1/2008 12:14:28 PM

Remember What Concerned Said About Democrats and the Stock Market????

Barack Obama has collected nearly twice as much money as John McCain

Wall Street firms have chipped in more than $9 million to Barack Obama. Wall Street is investing heavily in Barack Obama.

Although the Democratic presidential hopeful has vowed to raise capital gains and corporate taxes, financial industry bigs have contributed almost twice as much to Obama as to GOP rival John McCain, a Daily News analysis of campaign records shows.

"Wall Street wants change and wants a curtailment in spending. It wants someone who focuses on the domestic economy," said Jim Cramer, the boisterous host of CNBC's "Mad Money."

30990. jexster - 7/1/2008 12:17:38 PM

What Hath Bush Wrought?

Conservative Andrew J. Bacevich:

"Throughout the long primary season, even as various contenders in both parties argued endlessly about Iraq, they seemed oblivious to the more fundamental questions raised by the Bush years: whether global war makes sense as an antidote to terror, whether preventive war works, whether the costs of 'global leadership' are sustainable, and whether events in Asia rather than the Middle East just might determine the course of the 21st century."

30991. jexster - 7/1/2008 12:28:01 PM

Don't forget what Concerned told us.

Cause he sure will
Always does


PIMCO - world's largest bond fund manager - eager for O'Bama Presidency

30992. wonkers2 - 7/1/2008 12:39:03 PM

According to David Brooks column today employees of Goldman Sachs gave more to Obama than workers of any other employer. Hedge fund operators gave double to Obama than to McCain. Real estate professionals gave more to Obama than to McCain, ditto for commercial bankers. Teachers and professors gave seven times more to Obama than to McCain. Mainly midwestern business moguls are supporting McCain.

30993. jexster - 7/1/2008 1:11:56 PM

I take it back...there are only idiots in Texas. Cornyn is blasting Noreiga for the latter's proposal to use Iraqi oil to lower US gas prices


Boy that's a race to the bottom of the IQ barrel

30994. jexster - 7/1/2008 1:23:25 PM

America the Concerned
The Name's McSame

30995. robertjayb - 7/1/2008 1:59:02 PM

...by all means, let the faux outrage (fauxtrage?) continue!...

The Obama camp should recognize this blowback of synthetic indignation. It is a technique thay used constantly and effectively against the Clintons.

It is a shame that O has gone all wobbly on wrt defense of Clark. Clark's statement was exactly as Ohio said, a rebuttal of Schieffer's words with a little army v. navy edge for lagniappe.

30996. jexster - 7/1/2008 2:53:26 PM

I most def agree with that..and have said so..both email and browbeat some poor schlemiel at World Headquarters yesterday

That muthafucka Bill Burton..well anyway

Senator Obama,

I've been a volunteer here in San Francisco since February 10, 2007. I'm a precinct captain and I am outraged at Bill Burton's "rejection" of General Clark's comments on Face the Nation yesterday.

The FISA CAVE group on Mybo is going great guns. I think I should start a Stand by Gen Clark, Dump Bill Burton group. Like a Pavlovian dog "of course Sen Obama rejects _______"

What in hell has happened to your campaign?
What ever became of "tell Americans what they need to hear, not what they want to hear"?

When that spirit returns, so will mine

30997. jexster - 7/1/2008 2:56:52 PM

Get Gen Clark's Back
VoteVets.org Petition

30998. arkymalarky - 7/1/2008 3:52:19 PM

The general election is all about wobbly. The middle will move and Obama will benefit. I don't agree with some of what he's doing, but I never expected to, especially once the general election started. And I think Burton has been doing a great job overall.

30999. arkymalarky - 7/1/2008 3:52:39 PM

Leave

31000. arkymalarky - 7/1/2008 3:52:50 PM

it to Obama.

31001. jexster - 7/1/2008 5:29:31 PM

I am willing on FISA and never knee-jerked at the mention of "faith-based" but rejecting Wes Clark's comments was total all-meat move

Better he said yesterday what he's saying today

A candidate for president ain't got time for this mickey-mouse shit

Instead of well ..mickey mouse shit

31002. wonkers2 - 7/1/2008 5:33:58 PM

Mayor Bloomberg is trying to decide what to do after he's term-limited out. One suggestion in today's papers is that he be nominated and run for VP with both Obama and McCain!

31003. jexster - 7/1/2008 5:42:48 PM

Now they're accusing Jim Webb of attacking John McSongbird's war record.

Hell they aren't but I will

31004. jexster - 7/1/2008 5:43:47 PM

Wonkers and his pluto-pals probably came up with that one after a hard day of regatta drinking

31005. Max Macks - 7/1/2008 7:20:52 PM

where is the Jim Webb article , Jex?

31006. jexster - 7/1/2008 7:44:08 PM

7 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- Democratic Sen. Barack Obama has announced his opposition to a November ballot measure that would ban same-sex marriage in California, a move that puts gay rights front and center in the 2008 presidential campaign.

In a letter to San Francisco's Alice B. Toklas Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Democratic Club Sunday, the presumptive presidential nominee said he opposed "the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California Constitution" and similar efforts in other states.

Earlier last week, Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, the GOP standard-bearer in November, took the other side. He told officials of Protect Marriage, a coalition that gathered 1.1 million signatures for the California measure, that he backed their efforts "to recognize marriage as a unique institution between a man and a woman."


Alice B. Toklas! I am a member

31007. jexster - 7/1/2008 7:45:04 PM

Here ya go Max

31008. David Ehrenstein - 7/1/2008 8:17:45 PM

Latest FaBlog: Howard Kurtz Can Kiss My Ass

31009. jexster - 7/1/2008 8:36:47 PM

Mine too....on second thought..not my type

31010. jexster - 7/1/2008 8:37:53 PM

MSM Hyperventilates over Clark's torpedo attack on McSongbird


Ho's go-to collaborator

31011. jexster - 7/1/2008 8:48:55 PM

Newsom Opens Gubernatorial Campaign Committee

31012. jexster - 7/1/2008 8:54:59 PM

Man has a pair
Shame he's straight

31013. jexster - 7/1/2008 9:00:51 PM

Financial Times: Obama Camp Signals Robust Approach on Iran

31014. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/2/2008 12:17:13 AM

. . . the Swing State Project has put together the most comprehensive compendium of Republican hubris, fuckups and misfortunes you will find anywhere, ever.


The Modern Republican Party: A Compendium of Catastrophe

31015. concerned - 7/2/2008 2:56:09 AM

rejexst, besides being an enlistment avoiding coward, is a reprehensible POS for repeatedly distorting and attacking McCain on his military record, but even more so are Weasely Clark and Jim Webb. Those no credibility sellout bastards should just fuck themselves.

31016. concerned - 7/2/2008 3:06:18 AM

Speaking of catastrophe, Hussein cohort Toddler Stroger has boosted the Chicago retail tax rate to the highest in the nation: 10.25%. Detroit and Cleveland, here we come.

31017. concerned - 7/2/2008 3:08:11 AM

Stroger actually wanted at least 11.25%, to show how out of touch the Hussein crowd is with reality. Left Wingers, especially stupid ones of the Hussein persuasion, will tax the US into hell, given the chance. It's written into their ideological DNA.

31018. concerned - 7/2/2008 3:11:25 AM

Btw, any discussion here that George W. Bush has caused North Korea to destroy the cooling tower at its nuclear fuel enrichment facility?

This represents a huge step forward especially compared to the less than nothing that Xlowntoon accomplished wrt North Korea.

31019. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/2/2008 11:24:45 AM

Left Wingers, especially stupid ones of the Hussein persuasion, will tax the US into hell, given the chance. It's written into their ideological DNA.

This from the cheerleader of most stagnant pool of thought since the Spanish Inquisition. As if the-hell-on-Earth brought to you by the Bush/Cheney mob wasn't enough, Dr. DimWit is still only concerned about his money and his fear of losing it. How patriotic.

31020. arkymalarky - 7/2/2008 11:37:58 AM

Con'd, you'd better vote for Obama if you want to keep your money. No good keeping all the Bush tax cuts if the economy collapses. Obama is extending them on those making 250K or less. That way you know you keep your tax cut, but the Dems, as they are wont to do, will save the economy from Republican disaster so you're doubly rich.

31021. jexster - 7/2/2008 11:45:49 AM

McBush Recession: Deepining Cycles of Job Loss Seen into Next Year

31022. jexster - 7/2/2008 11:47:25 AM

So tell us TD, how does getting shot down on your first combat command and being Uncle Ho's "go-to collaborator" qualify that scenescent old bag of wind to be president?


I just don't get it

Inform our comments

31023. jexster - 7/2/2008 11:50:24 AM

America's first jobless recovery followed by...

It’s a slow-motion recession,” said Ethan Harris, chief United States economist for Lehman Brothers. “In a normal recession, things kind of collapse and get so weak that you have nowhere to go but up. But we’re not getting the classic two or three negative quarters. Instead, we’re expecting two years of sub-par growth. Growth that’s not enough to generate jobs. It’s kind of a chronic rather than an acute pain.”

Mr. Harris expects tepid economic growth and a shrinking labor market to persist through the fall of 2009.

The national unemployment rate climbed a full percentage point over the last year to 5.5 percent in May, according to the Labor Department. That does not include people who are jobless and have given up looking for work, or people who have been bumped to part-time jobs from full-time. Add in those people and the so-called underemployment rate rises to 9.7 percent, up from 8.3 percent in May 2007, according to the Labor Department.

31024. jexster - 7/2/2008 11:54:22 AM

For the love of Money- Meet the McSames

31025. jexster - 7/2/2008 11:59:41 AM

McSongbird's Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

McCain 'Visibly Angry' When Asked Relevance Of Military Experience

Maybe this is why the McCain camp focused on Gen. Clark's non-insult. On his trip to Colombia, McCain "recoiled in distaste" when a reporter asked him how his Vietnam experience prepared him for the Presidency.

31026. jexster - 7/2/2008 12:02:20 PM

Another MSM myth bites the dust

Obama Performing Better with Beaners than Kerry Did

31027. jexster - 7/2/2008 12:14:43 PM

Why would John McTantrum pitch a PTSD fit at answering a simple question on the straight talk express?

How does this qualify you to be president?

31028. jexster - 7/2/2008 12:14:53 PM

Late-Period Limbaugh
By ZEV CHAFETS
Bush is wildly unpopular. McCain is nobody’s idea of a movement guy. Conservatism is cracking up. What’s the king of talk radio to do?

Got game TD?

31029. jexster - 7/2/2008 12:23:38 PM

McSongbird's Vietnam Experience

Just keeps on keepin on...


GOP senator: McCain roughed up Nicaraguan
AP



One of John McCain's Republican colleagues says he saw the presumed GOP presidential nominee roughly grab an associate of Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega and lift him out of his chair during a diplomatic mission to the Central American nation in 1987.

A former McCain aide who was along on the mission said he doesn't recall an incident like the one described by Sen. Thad Cochran, R-Miss.

Cochran said he saw McCain, who has a reputation for being hot tempered, rough up an Ortega associate during a trip to Nicaragua led by former Sen. Bob Dole, R-Kan.

"McCain was down at the end of the table and we were talking to the head of the guerrilla group here at this end of the table and I don't know what attracted my attention," Cochran said in an interview with the Sun Herald in Biloxi, Miss. "But I saw some kind of quick movement at the bottom of the table and I looked down there and John had reached over and grabbed this guy by the shirt collar and had snatched him up like he was throwing him up out of the chair to tell him what he thought about him or whatever ...

"I don't know what he was telling him but I thought, 'Good grief, everybody around here has got guns and we were there on a diplomatic mission.' I don't know what had happened to provoke John, but he obviously got mad at the guy ... and he just reached over there and snatched ... him."

31030. jexster - 7/2/2008 12:36:58 PM

The American Voter:

Just How Stoopid Are We

Dumb enough to elect that Tejas oil hustler

31031. jexster - 7/2/2008 12:41:46 PM

Not since the halcyon days of his reign as Third Grade GeoBee Champ has concerned ever racked up a perfect score....


Until now

Five defining characteristics of stupidity, it seems to me, are readily apparent. First, is sheer ignorance: Ignorance of critical facts about important events in the news, and ignorance of how our government functions and who's in charge. Second, is negligence: The disinclination to seek reliable sources of information about important news events. Third, is wooden-headedness, as the historian Barbara Tuchman defined it: The inclination to believe what we want to believe regardless of the facts. Fourth, is shortsightedness: The support of public policies that are mutually contradictory, or contrary to the country's long-term interests. Fifth, and finally, is a broad category I call bone-headedness, for want of a better name: The susceptibility to meaningless phrases, stereotypes, irrational biases, and simplistic diagnoses and solutions that play on our hopes and fears.

31032. jexster - 7/2/2008 12:48:21 PM

O! inside McTormented's OODA Loop already

Shakeup at the Top of McSame Campaign

31033. jexster - 7/2/2008 12:56:58 PM

Obama's Plot to Destroy the Religious Right
By Nathan Newman -

Obama's proposed Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, faith-based initiatives to funnel social welfare money through religiously-run institutions, is not a move to the right as some bloggers argue; in fact, it's a brilliant plot to seize political territory and marginalize the religious right.

31034. jexster - 7/2/2008 1:12:57 PM

31035. concerned - 7/2/2008 1:23:39 PM

rejexst's Alzheimers prevents him from remembering that McCain flew at least a couple dozen missions.

Any Lefty who hasn't been a prisoner of war for several years, simply to protect their own credibility, should not criticize McCain's war record or patriotism.

31036. jexster - 7/2/2008 1:39:14 PM

Barack Obama is a different kind of Democrat.
He is one who actually intends to win

31037. jexster - 7/2/2008 1:45:19 PM

If you fail to plan
You plan to fail


No McPlan Worries GOP Insiders

Que sera ...leadership lesson Uncle Ho taught him?

31038. jexster - 7/2/2008 2:03:21 PM

McCain commanded only ONE combat mission. His first. He got shot down


Question still remains unanswered:

How does getting shot down over Vietnam qualify McPTSD to be president?

For all the frothing, the question should be easy to answer

Funny no one has

31039. wonkers2 - 7/2/2008 2:17:12 PM

concerned, who has criticized McCain's war record? Clark certainly didn't. He merely said, correctly, that being a fighter pilot and prisoner in N. Vietnam didn't qualify McCain for the Presidency. Perfectly true. The same people who criticized Kerry's war record are touting McCain's. Give us a break!

31040. jexster - 7/2/2008 2:30:39 PM

The Army McBush Destroyed

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Wednesday it has been a "tough month" in Afghanistan, where more U.S. and NATO troops died during the past two months than in Iraq. The Pentagon said it is too strapped to send more forces to Afghanistan now.


Meanwhile Adm Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, confessed that were Jizzrael to strike Iran, the US military could not handle the "Third Front" that would open

But instead of seizing this moment, the Clinton-Gore administration has squandered it. We have seen a steady erosion of American power and an unsteady exercise of American influence. Our military is low on parts, pay and morale. If called on by the commander-in-chief today, two entire divisions of the Army would have to report, "Not ready for duty, sir."

West Texas Oil Hustler
2000

Surely you'd think that w/ six years in the Armed Services committee majority, and all that experience on Hanoi TV, McTantrum would have prevented such a disaster

31041. jexster - 7/2/2008 2:34:13 PM

Your Tax Dollars in the McSewer

McJustice Department Sitting on Government Fraud Cases

31042. jexster - 7/2/2008 2:36:57 PM

Mote Pop Quiz

What did Concerned say about Democrats and the stock market?

31043. jexster - 7/2/2008 2:51:44 PM

JoeMentum for O!

Could be Biden Time

31044. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/2/2008 2:58:10 PM

Good grief–even without Photoshop–just look at these two. They look crazier than Charles Manson and Squeaky Fromme!

31045. concerned - 7/2/2008 4:15:57 PM

Wiper - McCain is a lot saner than you are.

31046. concerned - 7/2/2008 4:19:16 PM

Rejexst, the innumerate numbskull, lies again as usual.

McCain was on his 23rd bombing mission over N. Vietnam when his A-4 Skyhawk was hit by a surface-to-air missile (SAM) on Oct 26, 1967.

Rejexst has numerous times staked his nonexistent credibility on McCain being shot down on his first combat mission. Ooops.

31047. concerned - 7/2/2008 4:20:29 PM

Rejexst shows he has the same abysmal lack of mental skills as Hussein who believes that there are 58 states in the Union.

31048. concerned - 7/2/2008 4:24:10 PM

rejexst -

One is not Twenty Three, moron. How about you STFU about McCain until you understand the difference.

31049. jexster - 7/2/2008 5:09:26 PM

His FIRST command mission...

So what's so difficult about the question


What does getting shot down and collaborating with the NVN have to do with being president?

Not reall that hard, is it?

Something unclear about the question?

Perhaps you'd like it in french?

31050. jexster - 7/2/2008 5:10:15 PM

Stocks drop after new record for oil prices

Stocks post sharp decline after oil price surge; GM falls 15 percent on bearish report

TIM PARADIS
AP News

Jul 02, 2008 15:51 EST

Wall Street resumed its sell-off Wednesday after oil hit a new record and a bearish analyst report renewed concerns that General Motors Corp. could run out of cash.

The stock market's pullback, which accelerated in the final hours of the week's last full trading day, left the Dow Jones industrial average officially in bear market territory, with the blue chips having fallen more than 20 percent from their October highs.

Oil surged to new records above $144 a barrel as the government reported a bigger-than-expected drop in U.S. supplies and as investors worried about tensions in the Middle East.

Worries that GM could go so far as to declare bankruptcy only added to investors' unease. The stock fell $1.77, or 15 percent, to $9.98 — the first close below $10 since September 1954 when Dwight Eisenhower was president. Investors shrugged off better-than-expected sales figures from June and fretted about the company's cash needs.

According to preliminary calculations, the Dow fell 166.75, or 1.46 percent, to 11,215.51, the lowest close since August 2006.

31051. jexster - 7/2/2008 5:16:02 PM

Looks like Wonk's gonna have to sell a few yatchs
Sorry Honkers

31052. jexster - 7/2/2008 5:16:51 PM

Is this the answer we're looking for TD???

31053. jexster - 7/2/2008 5:28:53 PM

Executive Management Certificate
Ho Chi Min U


McStain Campaign Starts from Scratch

31054. jexster - 7/2/2008 5:33:45 PM

No Honor Among Thieves:
The BushVille Way!

Candidates Cleaned Out: GOP Firm Empties Pockets Of Own Clients

31055. jexster - 7/2/2008 5:54:00 PM

McDummy: I don't know squat about economics

31056. concerned - 7/2/2008 5:59:40 PM

His FIRST command mission...

Can you show that you're not making that up, rejexst?

31057. concerned - 7/2/2008 6:02:02 PM

rejexst - you'd be screaming for mommy if you had two broken arms, a broken leg, a crushed shoulder and was bayoneted, and the beaten and denied medical care as John McCain was after he was shot down by the North Vietnamese.

You're despicable.

31058. jexster - 7/2/2008 6:05:49 PM

The cite I read claims authority here...I have not read the book nor do I plan to. I have also seen McCain joke about it.




Doesn't really matter to me. I just want to know what about getting shot down makes him Ready to Lead from Day 1

31059. concerned - 7/2/2008 6:27:25 PM

So you don't even have a cite. There's a word for what you're doing then. It's: 'Lying'.

31060. jexster - 7/2/2008 6:48:22 PM

You have to take my word for it. I saw him joke about it on film of one of his visits to his old Commie masters in Hanoi

31061. jexster - 7/2/2008 6:49:01 PM

OR you can read the epic
Faith of His Fathers My Friends

31062. David Ehrenstein - 7/2/2008 7:46:20 PM

Latest FaBlog: Oxycontin Chic

31063. jexster - 7/2/2008 8:17:50 PM

RU tryin to say that with conservatism swirling in the toilet bowl, Rush is going to be buying his drugs from black people?

31064. jexster - 7/2/2008 8:18:24 PM

Something concerned should consider seriously

31065. David Ehrenstein - 7/2/2008 8:27:30 PM

He uses his Mexican maid to buy the drugs. He'd never do it himself.

31066. jexster - 7/2/2008 8:31:10 PM

Sold Out on the Fourth of July

Why is McTraitor in Columbia?

WITHOUT an American flag on his lapel?
Over the JULY FOURTH Holy-day?

31067. jexster - 7/2/2008 8:33:56 PM

McShamed of Old Glory?

31068. jexster - 7/3/2008 10:14:29 AM

MT-Pres
July 3 Gallup
Obama (D) 48%, McCain (R) 43%

31069. jexster - 7/3/2008 10:15:17 AM

Those cowboys know a McPhony when they see one

31070. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/3/2008 10:17:44 AM

31071. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/3/2008 10:19:36 AM

31072. jexster - 7/3/2008 10:20:22 AM

The Lies of George W. Bush: The Blood Is For Oil

Bush Officials Condoned Regional Iraqi Oil Deal
Contract Contradicted State Dept.'s Public Stance

Ray Hunt of Hunt Oil was a member of Bush's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board.

Bush administration officials told Hunt Oil last summer that they did not object to its efforts to reach an oil deal with the Kurdish regional government in northern Iraq, even while the State Department was publicly expressing concern that such contracts could undermine a national Iraqi petroleum law, according to documents obtained by a House committee.

Last fall, after the deal was announced, the State Department said that it had tried to dissuade Hunt Oil from signing the contract with Kurdish regional authorities but that the company had proceeded "regardless of our advice." Although Hunt Oil's chief executive has been a major fundraiser for President Bush, the president said he knew nothing about the deal.

31073. jexster - 7/3/2008 10:36:09 AM

Dollar's 41% Drop Writes Epitaph of McBush Residency

Today Ole Yurrup's set to raise interest rates and drive the greenback even further into the dust and oil prices ever further into the stratosphere.


Anyone recall what TD said about Democrats and the stock market?

31074. jexster - 7/3/2008 10:38:12 AM

We are strong dollar people
GWB
7/1/08

31075. jexster - 7/3/2008 11:37:03 AM

McSongbird’s TV biopic, reconsidered

GOP candidate tells director he enjoyed “good times” during POW stay.


No shit.

I get it now. McTreason learned the fine arts of diplomacy at Uncle Ho U.

31076. jexster - 7/3/2008 11:41:17 AM

31077. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/3/2008 11:57:39 AM

31078. jexster - 7/3/2008 5:26:07 PM

"Total private sector job gains in the Bush years may fall below 3 million by November. The annual average for the Clinton years was 2.6 million."

--David Kurtz

31079. jexster - 7/3/2008 5:32:22 PM

Donna Brazille be comin

July 15th fundraiser

31080. jexster - 7/3/2008 5:50:00 PM

Today in Mexico, John McTraitor attacked Barack Obama. The podium from which he delivered his pro-NAFTA slam bears the Mexican Buzzard Seal, and what's that on Songbird's lapel?????






NOTHING
NOT A DAMN THING

31081. jexster - 7/3/2008 6:11:03 PM

I am sure Arky joined the FISA group at mybo and she'd share this


NOT

All hat, no cattle that one

For the rest...

Response from Barack on FISA and Discussion with Policy Staff

Says he's always admired jerking left knees

31082. jexster - 7/3/2008 6:23:17 PM

John McShame is no doubt afraid to wear Her especially down Mexico way as he betrays this country and her hard pressed working men and women

But we will not trade Her for some Mexican Buzzard THIS FOURTH OF JULY HOLIDAY!

Her Name is Old Glory
We love Her
Long may She wave
Land of Free
Home of Brave. Amen.

31083. jexster - 7/3/2008 6:24:37 PM

Even his trophy bitch is dressed like a Mexican

31084. jexster - 7/3/2008 8:07:11 PM

McCain Flips At Legit Question

Jon Soltz:

I've been running VoteVets.org for a couple of years now. In 2006 and in 2008, we've endorsed a number of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans for Congress. It's still a story that the press is largely interested in, and when they call me to talk about it, I always -- always -- get the same first question:

What is it about their honorable service in Iraq and/or Afghanistan that qualifies them to go to Congress?

It's a legit question, and neither I, nor any of the candidates, take any umbrage at it. As veterans of the current conflicts, they have a unique perspective on the wars that should be part of the debate on the floor of Congress, and a vote that helps shapes our security policy.
McCain's response?

"Please," he said, recoiling back in his seat in distaste at the very question

We're STILL waiting for a straight answer from the TongueTied Express

31085. concerned - 7/3/2008 11:55:56 PM

This from the guy who swore that Lurch's Vietnam medals were his prime qualification to be president.

31086. concerned - 7/3/2008 11:57:35 PM

I notice that Lefties are getting an early start on talking about impeaching McCain.

From DU:

all McCain needs to do is not break the law, and Impeachment is truly off the table.

31087. concerned - 7/4/2008 12:27:59 AM

More trouble for the lying Hussein Campaign from his forgery producing supporters:

Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims

Look at the name of the linked blog, rejexst. Looks like your 'archenemies' from Israel (based on all your anti-Jewish posting) are trying to get Hussein thrown off the presidential ballot in November.

31088. concerned - 7/4/2008 12:32:27 AM

Without a valid birth certificate, the primary record of US birth, Obama cannot prove that he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into grave doubt his eligibility to run for President. His presumed Kenyan-born father was foreign-born, and his mother was too young at the time of birth to confer natural born status by virtue of her American citizenship. Thus his citizenship comes down to proving he was born in the USA, and his campaign has staked its credibility on the authenticity of the Daily Kos-derived birth certificate image.

No non-eligible candidates allowed to be US president.

31089. concerned - 7/4/2008 12:37:10 AM

Btw, 'African' is not a race, contrary to what Left Wingers believe.

31090. alistairconnor - 7/4/2008 4:28:51 AM

Contrary to what Con believes, there are no "races" within the human race.

31091. jexster - 7/4/2008 9:14:47 AM

Nice Touch

Barack Obama's campaign is considering having him accept the Democratic presidential nomination at Invesco Field at Mile High instead of the Pepsi Center, the chosen site for the Democratic National Convention, two people with knowledge of convention planning said Thursday.

...
The convention will be held Aug. 25-28 at the Pepsi Center, with Obama scheduled to accept the Democratic presidential nomination on the final night, which also is the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington in 1963.

..

The Pepsi Center's Web site says it can hold 21,000 people for special events. Invesco Field at Mile High, where the Denver Broncos play, seats more than 76,000.

___

31092. jexster - 7/4/2008 9:16:25 AM

Oh spare me that post-modern French palaver!

31093. jexster - 7/4/2008 9:18:22 AM

We're STILL waiting for a straight answer from the TongueTied Express

31085. concerned - 7/4/2008 4:55:56 AM

This from the guy who swore that Lurch's Vietnam medals were his prime qualification to be president.

Still waiting

31094. jexster - 7/4/2008 9:31:11 AM

Even though John McShame's Her, we LOVE OLD GLORY

31095. wonkers2 - 7/4/2008 10:00:12 AM

Oh Mama! He's new and not improved!

31096. jexster - 7/4/2008 10:07:11 AM

I say let's give TD a hand!

Republicans struggling to "define" Obama

Leading Republicans are beginning to complain that the McCain campaign hasn't yet settled on a way of "defining" -- a.k.a. "sliming" -- Barack Obama, prompting some to worry that Obama may prove as elusive a target for them as he did for Hillary. It's worth noting that the multiple GOP lines of attack floating around right now clearly contradict each other: One moment Obama's an elitist at a country club; the next he's a "street" organizer; and so on.

Target: Barack Obama. Strategy: What Day Is It?

31097. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/4/2008 10:23:26 AM

Connie's boldfaced lies about Obama just parrot Fox Slime News. This video proves it . . .

31098. robertjayb - 7/4/2008 11:06:29 AM

Jesse Helms is dead? Is it true?

31099. jexster - 7/4/2008 11:11:17 AM

Tragic isn't it

31100. jexster - 7/4/2008 11:12:16 AM

31101. robertjayb - 7/4/2008 11:20:34 AM

Yesss!

RALEIGH, N.C. — (AP) - Former Sen. Jesse Helms, who served 30 years in Congress, died on the Fourth of July, the Jesse Helms research center says. He was 86.

The center, based at Wingate University in North Carolina, said Friday that he died at 1:15 a.m.
...........................................................

Helms built a career along the fault lines of racial politics and battled liberals, Communists and the occasional fellow Republican during his decades in Congress. He was slowed in later age by a variety of illnesses, including a bone disorder, prostate cancer and heart problems.

I believe the old bastard was among the first to build a reputation as an outrageous broadcaster into a career as an outrageous politician. Too bad he wasn't the last.

31102. David Ehrenstein - 7/4/2008 11:37:44 AM

Latest FaBlog: Fait Divers - Sing It High, Sing It Low!

31103. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/4/2008 11:58:07 AM

To quote Gore Vidal:

"Good career move!"

31104. robertjayb - 7/4/2008 12:11:50 PM

Sheer cites Geo. Washington on pretend patriotism...

Washington's "Farewell Address" to the new nation was a warning about the threat of American imperial ambitions and a declaration of his high expectations for a republic of free men: "In offering to you, my countrymen, these counsels of an old and affectionate friend, I dare not hope they will make the strong and lasting impression I could wish; that they will control the usual current of the passions, or prevent our nation from running the course which has hitherto marked the destiny of nations. But, if I may even flatter myself, that they may be productive of some partial benefit, some occasional good; that they may now and then recur to moderate the fury of party spirit, to warn against the mischiefs of foreign intrigue, to guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. ..."

We are drowning in the "impostures of pretended patriotism," used to cover the lies that got us into Iraq, the defense of torture and the violation of our basic liberties. In the name of patriotism, we presume a God-given American right to reorder the world to our liking, masking the vice of unfettered greed as an obligation of national security.

31105. jexster - 7/4/2008 12:19:03 PM

Sorry, he's still not wearing Old Glory

31106. jexster - 7/4/2008 1:24:00 PM

China moves additional rigs off Florida Coast

31107. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/4/2008 2:38:54 PM

Prophetic insight . . .

31108. jexster - 7/4/2008 2:44:48 PM

Just HOW Desperate R They?

Conservative pundits begin lying about Obama's Iraq remarks
Right-wing opinion-makers have begun falsifying Obama's Iraq remarks yesterday, starting with Charles Krauthammer of The Washington Post, who has a remarkably dishonest column this morning asserting as fact that Obama has "already begun" his "shift" in the direction of erasing "all meaningful differences with McCain on withdrawal from Iraq." Curiously, there's no mention in Krauthammer's column of the subsequent presser Obama held yesterday firmly reiterating his commitment to a 16-month withdrawal timetable.

Happy fourth, everyone!

Think the 100 Years Warrior worries the War Partisans?

You bet he does.

31109. jexster - 7/4/2008 2:46:36 PM

31110. jexster - 7/4/2008 2:53:22 PM

Good one Wiz
Lock n load i3

31111. jexster - 7/4/2008 2:57:57 PM

Died on the Fourth of July

Some quotes of Jesse Helms, who died on the Fourth of July at age 86:


"I'm so old-fashioned I believe in horse whipping." — During a debate in 1991 on an AIDS-related amendment.

"Well, there is no joy in Mudville tonight. The mighty ultraliberal establishment, and the liberal politicians and editors and commentators and columnists, have struck out again." — Helms after defeating black Democrat Harvey Gantt for Senate in 1990.

"I came up between the two world wars during the Depression. All the people around me emphasized working and savings and personal responsibility. They spelled out in one way or another the uniqueness of America. This has largely been lost. Nobody would have thought of turning to the government to solve all our problems." — 1984 interview.

"The destruction of this country can be pinpointed in terms of its beginnings to the time that our political leadership turned to socialism. They didn't call it socialism, of course. It was given deceptive names and adorned with fancy slogans. We heard about New Deals, and Fair Deals and New Frontiers and the Great Society." — From a Helms editorial at WRAL-TV in Raleigh.

"I shall always remember the shady streets, the quiet Sundays, the cotton wagons, the Fourth of July parades, the New Year's Eve firecrackers. I shall never forget the stream of school kids marching uptown to place flowers on the Courthouse Square monument on Confederate Memorial Day." — Helms writing in 1956 on life in his hometown of Monroe, N.C.

"If he taught us anything, he taught us that we are personally responsible and accountable. I remember that day, and always will, when he called in several from the senior class. ... He said you can make it in this country. He said it's going to take hard work. ... He said you're going to succeed. He said you'll own your own homes and you'll have two cars and all that. I thought this man had lost his mind." — Helms reflecting on his high school principal.

"Compromise, hell! That's what has happened to us all down the line — and that's the very cause of our woes. If freedom is right and tyranny is wrong, why should those who believe in freedom treat it as if it were a roll of bologna to be bartered a slice at a time?" — Helms writing in 1959 on compromise in politics.

"To rob the Negro of his reputation of thinking through a problem in his own fashion is about the same as trying to pretend that he doesn't have a natural instinct for rhythm and for singing and dancing." — Helms responding in 1956 to criticism that a fictional black character in his newspaper column was offensive.

31112. robertjayb - 7/4/2008 4:46:38 PM

Ray McGovern Zaps O on FISA...

Dear Senator Obama,

I speak from 30 years of experience in intelligence work. I don't know who actually briefed you on the eavesdropping legislation, but the bill is unnecessary for intelligence collection and POISON for our civil liberties—not even to mention the unconscionable retroactive immunity provision.

You have made a big mistake, Senator, in indicating you intend to vote for it. There is still time to change your mind. That's what big people do.

Your penultimate paragraph seals it for me. What you are saying relies not on principle—and still less on respect for the law, or respect for our Constitutional rights.

What I hear you saying is an all too familiar refrain: "Tough s___, progressive voter. You know you've got nowhere else to go. You want McCain in there?"

31113. wonkers2 - 7/4/2008 5:00:51 PM

He deserves it.

31114. wonkers2 - 7/4/2008 5:25:41 PM

What John McCain didn't learn in Vietnam

31115. jexster - 7/4/2008 5:39:45 PM

I think Ray's in need of professional help

Our windows are open and George Mason can be heard tossing and turning in his grave, loudly moaning. Yes, moaning.

I went over to his grave; between the moans he explained that he had just heard of your plan to play fast and loose with his beloved Bill of Rights. "Hard to enjoy the Fourth tomorrow with the Constitution being shredded Right and Left," he whispered.

31116. jexster - 7/5/2008 2:12:22 PM

Brace those jerking left knees

A good-enough spy law
The FISA bill isn't perfect, but it's a compromise that the Senate should accept.

31117. jexster - 7/5/2008 6:47:50 PM

The Purfuit of Happiness in a McBush World

Americans' Unhappy Birthday
AP

31118. jexster - 7/5/2008 8:12:27 PM

Helms: Republican Racist to the End


Dead on the 4th of July

31119. jexster - 7/5/2008 8:14:54 PM

Born on the 4th of July
Malia O'Bama




This message brought to you by God

31120. alistairConnor - 7/6/2008 7:55:09 AM

How old's Malia?

She looks like my g*d-daughter, born in France on a quatorze juillet, now living in NC and coming up for US citizenship this year (along with her ma & pa who ought to get theirs in time to vote for Malia's daddy)

31121. jexster - 7/6/2008 10:22:44 AM

10

31122. jexster - 7/6/2008 10:57:29 AM

Surprising because this comes from archWarLord Peter Beinart

He may be right

Because Americans are less afraid and because Republicans have abandoned the foreign policy center, Democrats need not worry that Obama will suffer the fate of George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale or John Kerry. He won't lose because he looks weak. The greater danger is that he will change positions in a bid to look strong -- as he recently did on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act -- and come across as inauthentic and insincere. As Ruy Teixeira and John Halpin have noted, the Democrats' biggest political liability is not that Americans believe they are too liberal but rather that they believe that Democrats don't stand for anything at all. On foreign policy, Obama has a chance to change that: to articulate a vision based on the principles of global cooperation and human dignity that animated Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt. He shouldn't be deterred by fears of being called soft. Those fears are the echoes of a bygone age.

31123. jexster - 7/6/2008 11:52:11 AM

The Race for Governator


Hells bells it is two years away

Charismatic and politically bold, both San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa seem like naturals to help Democrats reclaim the governor's office in 2010.

But there's a formidable obstacle for the next generation eyeing the job: Former two-term governor and current Attorney General Jerry Brown.

31124. David Ehrenstein - 7/6/2008 12:06:57 PM

31125. jexster - 7/6/2008 1:42:37 PM

'If You have an R in front of your name, you better run scared'
John Ensign Chairman, Republican Senate Campaign Committee



For Republicans, the Senate outlook is bad
Mississippi and other longtime strongholds could go Democratic this fall. Obama's candidacy is a boost.

31126. jexster - 7/6/2008 2:02:00 PM

Bush Official Who Resigned to Help O'Bama

I am sure he appreciates, as do I, the only candidate who is proud to be an American.

31127. David Ehrenstein - 7/6/2008 2:07:29 PM

Sorry about this, jex, but --

Latest FaBlog: I'm OK -- You're Not

31128. jexster - 7/6/2008 2:10:22 PM

That's OK Cllr. As I always say, "we're all niggers under the skin:

31129. jexster - 7/6/2008 2:24:30 PM

Let them that have ears hear DE

Oh ye Wendy Whiners of little Faith

Matthew 11


16 ‘But to what will I compare this generation? It is like children sitting in the market-places and calling to one another,
17“We played the flute for you, and you did not dance;
we wailed, and you did not mourn.”
18For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, “He has a demon”; 19the Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, “Look, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax-collectors and sinners!” Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds.’*

31130. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/6/2008 3:25:05 PM

I don't fault David for his point of view, but the fact is the boat we are all in, called America, is sinking fast and McCain will not keep it from going under, but rather, hasten it. So what fucking choice do we have? David is taking the stance of the principled jihadist, but it's a fool's paradise because the American public is complacent and fearful of the obvious truth.

The fact is, it's beginning to look like the boat is unseaworthy for the storms we are facing and whatever crew is chosen, we are all in for a very rough ride.

31131. wonkers2 - 7/6/2008 3:55:33 PM

David is correct, but I'm voting for Obama. He's our last best hope.

31132. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/6/2008 4:58:46 PM

That's what I meant, but words aren't my medium–nor is boating!

31133. jexster - 7/6/2008 4:59:16 PM

David's a Wendy Whiner

31134. jexster - 7/6/2008 5:00:59 PM

Oh and yes David. It IS all about Barry. Whose FISA vote did you think it was about?

31135. jexster - 7/6/2008 8:20:14 PM

It is a prospect that thrills liberals and terrifies many Republicans: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi working hand-in-glove with a President Barack Obama.

31136. Wombat - 7/7/2008 10:23:52 AM

Wiz:

Where did you find the photo of the wrecked ship?

31137. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 7/7/2008 11:18:04 AM

Google Image Search, Wombat.

31138. jexster - 7/7/2008 11:22:26 AM

Looks to me like a Dreadnought

31139. Wombat - 7/7/2008 11:22:46 AM

Thanks! By the way, as someone who has often criticized your artistic political statements in the past, your current efforts are spot on.

31140. jexster - 7/7/2008 11:23:12 AM

Voters Associate Obama with "Change", McSame with "Old"

31141. Wombat - 7/7/2008 11:25:54 AM

Jex:

It looks like a WW II era light cruiser. The guns are way too small to be a battleship's.

31142. jexster - 7/7/2008 11:30:35 AM

Ah yes.

31143. arkymalarky - 7/7/2008 11:33:45 AM

This is to some in the blogosphere and to the anti-FISA group on Obama's site: Obama's running for president of the country, not president of the liberals, and if he expects to win that's how he has to run. I also have always thought he's more moderate than a lot of his supporters have given him credit for. I don't think he's shifted much, if any. I don't like his FISA vote, but there's no way I won't vote enthusiastically for him in November.

I swear, if the liberal wing of the Democrats starts this hand-wringing navel-gazing crap as they've done with every candidate since Clinton--really since Carter lost, imo--they will deserve the results as much as the people who actually, incredibly, stupidly, support McCain. Dickerson, I believe it was, said it best in Slate four years ago, and I think of it and repeat it a lot: The difference between winning and losing, which is synonymous with the difference between Republicans and Democrats since Carter (no, Clinton doesn't count--Republicans dominated through most of his two terms) is that Republicans never abandon their candidate. Never. They get on board and stay there, no matter what. Republicans hate McCain. But even Limbaugh is holding his nose and shutting his mouth, which is amazing. And it's not the criticism, it's the whining and hand-wringing and second-guessing and all that mushy crap that gives the impression the base is abandoning the candidate and undermines him. And of course the media jumps on it, because they're already in McCain's pocket and Republicans use the only thing they are still able to manage better than Democrats: message control. So the base helps the media set the narrative as negative to the Democratic candidate, even though he's ahead in every national poll that's been taken since the end of the Democratic primary, while the Republican candidate appears steady despite one mismanagement and corruption and flip-flopping story after another. Democrats are too busy looking at their own navels to capitalize on the massive incompetence of the McCain campaign. This is how Lucy tricks Charlie every time and defeat is repeatedly snatched from the jaws of victory.

There. I feel better.

31144. arkymalarky - 7/7/2008 11:36:38 AM

And I'm not suggesting people shouldn't criticize Obama and let him know when he's pissing them off--they just need to put the pitchforks and torches away.

31145. jexster - 7/7/2008 11:38:40 AM

Obama's made it official. He will deliver his acceptane speech at the new 76,000 seat Mile High Stadim

The last acceptance speech held outdoors

31146. iiibbb - 7/7/2008 11:38:55 AM

It's not WW2. Too many vestiges of modern electronics on it.

Fauklands war maybe?

31147. iiibbb - 7/7/2008 11:43:57 AM

Russian. The Murmansk. A cruiser. Being towed to India for scrap but ran aground in a storm in 1993.


http://www.gosleepgo.com/go/russian-battle-ship-murmansk

31148. jexster - 7/7/2008 11:48:21 AM

Excellent I3
I like the cut of your jib

31149. concerned - 7/7/2008 11:49:31 AM

David is correct, but I'm voting for Obama. He's our last best hope.

For what? Change? To what, exactly?

31150. alistairconnor - 7/7/2008 11:52:12 AM

I also have always thought he's more moderate than a lot of his supporters have given him credit for.

I think being black has helped him.

I doubt that a white could have gotten away with being so moderate, in south Chicago. And I doubt that a moderate white could have created an enthusiastic mass movement.

31151. Wombat - 7/7/2008 11:59:06 AM

Wiz: Thanks again! The Murmansk was a Kirov class light cruiser, which was a WW II era design of which 17 were built from 1951-60 (so we're both right iiibbb!). They were obsolete as soon as they were built, and some were converted to missile cruisers. Others were sold abroad, but were too expensive to operate.

31152. jexster - 7/7/2008 11:59:13 AM

Barack by the books
The works that have influenced Obama illustrate that he would be the most literary president in recent memory -- and one likely to govern from the center.

31153. jexster - 7/7/2008 12:07:57 PM

Ed Kilgore: Big speech, big venue


A bit of campaign news that might have gotten somewhat lost in the Independence Day fireworks haze was the report -- now confirmed -- that Barack Obama will move his nomination acceptance speech in Denver from the formal convention site (the 19,000-seat Pepsi Center) to Invesco Field, the Denver Broncos stadium that seats 76,000.

It's not surprising that the Obama campaign would want a big venue for a very big speech. Make no mistake, it will be that. When you consider the historic nature of his speech (on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" address, no less), the vast international audience it will command, the high expectations surrounding Obama's oratory, and the rapid development of new media for its secondary distribution, this could well be the most watched, listened to, heard, and generally observed political speech in, well, the history of the world. Think about it.

31154. iiibbb - 7/7/2008 12:10:53 PM

Message # 31143

I vomit a little in my mouth when I listen to a liberal say they may not vote for Obama because he's pandering or he's not "progressive" enough. What fools.

I am certain I will be amazed if the Dem's lose this one... but it won't be this swing-voter's fault.

31155. jexster - 7/7/2008 12:17:10 PM

Obamacans: Why Some Conservatives Are Backing Obama

31156. jexster - 7/7/2008 12:25:02 PM

Andrew J. Bacevich, professor of history and international relations at Boston University, writing in the American Conservative: "We should take (McCain) at his word: his commitment to continuing the most disastrous of President Bush's misadventures is irrevocable. ... He is the candidate of the War Party. The election of John McCain would provide a new lease on life to American militarism, while perpetuating the U.S. penchant for global interventionism marketed under the guise of liberation."

31157. jexster - 7/7/2008 12:25:44 PM

I don't much like dem Wendy Whiners either I3

31158. concerned - 7/7/2008 1:19:46 PM

I doubt that a white could have gotten away with being so moderate, in south Chicago. And I doubt that a moderate white could have created an enthusiastic mass movement.

Sure, his speech is very moderate right now (what a surprise from a politician who is trying to shore up the center), but what about his legislative record (such as it is)? Anything but moderate.

31159. jexster - 7/7/2008 1:21:24 PM

John McSame - Most Irrelevant Candidate Ever?

Obama’s apple pie campaign
By: Jonathan Martin and Ben Smith


On June 19, Barack Obama released his first television advertisement, a multi-million dollar, 18-state production that conveyed the core of his campaign’s goal this summer: To establish his American cultural normalcy.

Obama offered a clear new version of his complex family story: “I was raised by a single mom and my grandparents. We didn’t have much money, but they taught me values straight from the Kansas heartland where they grew up.” His African father and his upbringing abroad were never mentioned, and he was pictured in six images surrounded by ordinary-looking white people.

Two hours later, John McCain’s campaign spokesman, Tucker Bounds, emailed reporters a terse, standard-issue and irrelevant response: “Barack Obama wants more taxes from 21 million small businesses, 10 million seniors and he’s confessed that his economic proposals could damage the economy—we’re confident the more Americans know about Barack Obama the less likely they are to support him,” he said.

The exchange encapsulated the disconnect between the two campaigns. John McCain is attacking Barack Obama in well-worn terms: As a flip-flopper, an elitist and a typical politician. But in a year when polls show a generic Democratic candidate easily taking the White House, the Illinois Senator has little reason to fear being defined by his party—or as anything typical.

"There has never been a major party candidate less relevant in an election than John McCain," said Democratic strategist James Carville. "It's all about Obama."

To Obama right now, McCain is indeed almost incidental.

31160. jexster - 7/7/2008 1:41:34 PM

Obama's Website Riles Muzzies

31161. jexster - 7/7/2008 2:11:00 PM

Cook Sees Massive Shift to Democrats

31162. iiibbb - 7/7/2008 2:46:49 PM

The Dem's mandates are

War
Economy
Health Care


Really it is the anti-war anger and economy that's going to carry this election. After that things may shift again.

31163. jexster - 7/7/2008 2:54:59 PM

BobbleFoot in Mouth Disease

Roger Wicker (R-MS) teams with David Vitter and Larry Craig on Marriage Protection Amendment

31164. arkymalarky - 7/7/2008 3:12:30 PM

Alistair,

I attribute it more to his grassroots background. Grassroots people come in as activists but quickly learn that raging against the machine only makes things worse. They've got to learn to work with the system and find common ground if they really want their causes to progress.

31165. jexster - 7/7/2008 3:12:53 PM

Change from what to what?

McSame Claims He'll Balance Budget
Experts stop him before he lies again

PHOENIX – Senator John McCain is pledging once again to balance the budget by the end of his first term in 2013, his advisers said Monday, reverting to an earlier pledge he had abandoned in April when he proposed a series of costly tax cuts for corporations and high earners and said it might take two terms to balance the budget.

31166. arkymalarky - 7/7/2008 3:15:43 PM

Con'd, one thing Obama has been very consistent on--far more than any other candidate, including McCain, is middle class tax cut.

31167. arkymalarky - 7/7/2008 3:17:12 PM

I'll say this--Democratic pundits are doing a far better job on tv holding their ground and getting their talking points out.

31168. arkymalarky - 7/7/2008 3:19:23 PM

Con'd, c'mon, vote Obama. I promise you won't regret it. You know you can/t stand the idea of President McCain.

31169. arkymalarky - 7/7/2008 10:13:31 PM

I wonder how many people on the MyObama FISA forum are and have been opposed to him?

31170. jexster - 7/7/2008 10:16:55 PM

I dunno.
I am not a member of the Wendy Whiner Club

31171. jexster - 7/8/2008 11:26:26 AM

Love that laugh.

Making a play for the sympathy vote my friends

31172. concerned - 7/8/2008 11:45:33 AM

Congressional approval rating falls from Peloser's shoe size to her single digit IQ

IOW, George W. Bush has gone from being twice as popular to being three times as popular as the Democrat controlled Congress .

Let's see now. Democrats took control of Congress in 2006 on promises of a better economy, lower fuel prices, more jobs, better schools, protected borders, and a peaceful end to the WOT based on diplomacy.

9%..Worst...Congress...Ever..9%

31173. concerned - 7/8/2008 11:48:20 AM

Who is insane enough to want to have both the worst congress ever and the most inexperienced president ever, courtesy of the Wingnut Left?

Not me.

31174. concerned - 7/8/2008 12:03:15 PM

I think Peloser and Co. are already delivering the 'change' that Hussein is promising.

31175. concerned - 7/8/2008 12:39:45 PM

9%...Worst...Congress...Ever...9%

31176. concerned - 7/8/2008 1:06:31 PM

Hussein is starting to convince me that he is an agent of change. Why, in the first month of the general election, he has already reversed course on everything from FISA to the Second Amendment to the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment to gay marriage to campaign finance reform. And I thought Pinocchio Bore was all over the map. Next up, Hussein changing his Iraq policy?

31177. concerned - 7/8/2008 1:10:00 PM

Hussein is changing his campaign promises so much, in fact, that his statements are now what one would expect from somebody who doesn't have a fucking clue as to what he is talking about or wants to do (besides tax us all to hell, that is).

31178. concerned - 7/8/2008 1:48:34 PM

Say, arky -

If Hussein doesn't know what 'change' he 'believes' in, as he clearly doesn't, tell me why should anybody put their faith in his campaign phrase that he represents 'change' that they should 'believe' in?

31179. concerned - 7/8/2008 1:58:58 PM

Frankly, this guy's cluelessness is very scary.

31180. concerned - 7/8/2008 2:06:51 PM

Arky -

Another question. I understand that Hussein voted to raise taxes as many as 94 times in the three years he was in the US Senate. Considering all the entitlement programs he wants to add as president, what makes you believe your overall Federal tax burden is likely to decrease if he is placed in office?

31181. jexster - 7/8/2008 2:33:28 PM

Uncle Fester's Feuds

WASHINGTON — Senator John McCain’s campaigns have long been defined by internal squabbling and power plays, zigzagging lines of command and a penchant by the candidate for consulting with former advisers without alerting current ones, always a recipe for disquiet.
Festering Feuds Return to DoubleTalk Express

31182. jexster - 7/8/2008 2:45:32 PM

GOP Congressman: We're Going To Bleed More Seats This Fall -- And That's Good!
By Eric Kleefeld -

How's this for hopelessness in the House GOP ranks: A Republican Congressman is not only predicting losses in this election and futures ones -- he's also saying it would be a good thing!

"I'm of the position that we really need to clean house in this Republican Party," Nevada Republican Dean Heller told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "And I think the next couple of election cycles are going to do that."

Heller isn't all doom and gloom, though. He thinks the Republicans will get the majority back within a decade.




Gee with 27 of the 28 Cook Report house seats in danger and no Dems at risk in the senate, with the Chair of the GOP senate campaign conceding a 5 seat loss and warning all Republicans to "run scared", I might just conclude that Americans don't like the REPUBLICANS in Congress

31183. jexster - 7/8/2008 2:48:52 PM

FISA? Kyl-Lieberman? Gay marriage?

Wouldn't know a flip-flop from his asshole

Scared TD RU?

* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he's against it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...



* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three
weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/18/mccains-offsho...



* McCain thought Bush's warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15781.htm...



* McCain defended "privatizing" Social Security. Now he says he's against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15863.htm...



* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn't.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/10/mccain-flips-o...



* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15825.htm...



* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the
Supreme Court reached the same conclusion,he called it "one of the
worst decisions in the history of this country."

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15864.htm...

31184. jexster - 7/8/2008 2:50:39 PM



* McCain said he would "not impose a litmus test on any nominee." He used to promise the opposite.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/06/now-mccain-is-flip-f...



* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role
in the administration's warrantless surveillance program as a condition
for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...



* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/may/28/mccains-abo... /



* McCain supported moving "towards normalization of relations" with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15617.htm...







31185. jexster - 7/8/2008 2:50:56 PM

* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15557.htm...



* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15564.htm...



* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party's policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15573.htm...



* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn't.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/20/mccains-97-lob...





31186. jexster - 7/8/2008 2:51:23 PM

* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn't.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15633.htm...



* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn't.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15699.htm...



*McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any
circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is
a"'read my lips' candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?" referring to
George H.W. Bush's 1988 pledge. "No new taxes," McCain responded.Two
weeks later, McCain said, "I'm not making a 'read my lips' statement,
in that I will not raise taxes."

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14761.htm...



* McCain is both for and against a "rogue state rollback" as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/mccain-...



* McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry's Democratic ticket in 2004.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14818.htm...



*In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut
underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide
resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a
$0.61-per-pack tax increase, won't commit to supporting a regulation
bill he's co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris' former lobbyist
as his senior campaign adviser.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15033.htm...



* McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15337.htm...



* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15370.htm...



* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15358.htm...



31187. jexster - 7/8/2008 2:51:46 PM

* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/19/mccain-economy-bloo... /



* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/06/mccain-earmark /



* McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/21/hagee-flip-flop /



*McCain's first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that
homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn't be "rewarded" for
acting"irresponsibly."His second mortgage plan took largely the
opposite position.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15176.htm...



* McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of
his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to
reach that goal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/us/politics/16mccain....



* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/10/emtimeem-has-m...



* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even
volunteering to testify on the treaty's behalf before a Senate
committee. Now he opposes it.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/oct/31/mccain-... /



* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal
status to illegal immigrants' kids who graduate from high school. Now
he's against it.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/oct/31/mccain-... /



* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14447.htm...





31188. jexster - 7/8/2008 2:52:14 PM

*In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying
coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after
receiving"feedback" on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist
groups that he opposes his own measure.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9658.html



* McCain said before the war in Iraq, "We will win this conflict. We
will win it easily." Four years later, McCain said he knew all along
that the war in Iraq war was "probably going to be long and hard and
tough."

http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral...



*McCain said he was the "greatest critic" of Rumsfeld's failed Iraq
policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as"a mission
accomplished." In March 2004, he said, "I'm confident we're on the
right course."In December 2005, he said, "Overall, I think a year from
now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course."

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/18/mccain-greatest-cri... /



* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade http://mediamatters.org/items/200610310003 to saying the exact opposite.http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/19/mccain-abortion /




* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/02/mcc...



* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as "an agent of
intolerance" in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said
Americans "deserved" the 9/11 attacks.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/6988.html

* McCain used to oppose Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/6731.html



* On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because
they were "too tilted to the wealthy." By 2007, he denied ever having
said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased
government spending.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/03/us/politics/03mccain....



*In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of
being corrupt, spending "dirty money" to help finance Bush's
presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the
Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out
at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=1880630&page=1



* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.

http://www.nysun.com/national/campaign-finance-effort-r... /





31189. jexster - 7/8/2008 2:52:20 PM

* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20070115/pl_usnw/dnc__mcca...



* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/8313.html



* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he's pro-ethanol.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15637887 /



* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200610310003



* McCain decided in2000 that he didn't want anything to do with former
Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he "would taint the image
of the'Straight Talk Express.'" Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair
for his presidential campaign in New York.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/19/mccain-kissinger /



* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and acorrupt
shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for
president and began to reconcile with Norquist.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/19/mccain-kissinger /



* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/20...



* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance
reform, and won't back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of
years ago.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/8066.html



* And now he's both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/19/mccain-abortion /

31190. arkymalarky - 7/8/2008 2:56:10 PM

Con'd, don't believe the hype. You'll be better off with Obama as president, and you don't have to hate him like you did Bill Clinton. He wants the rich to bear more of the tax burden and to give families making under 200k a year a break, especially people making under 75k.

31191. arkymalarky - 7/8/2008 2:56:50 PM

Admit it, Con'd. The thought of casting a vote for McCain makes you want to hurl.

31192. concerned - 7/8/2008 2:57:15 PM

How about his dropping the capital gains tax increase?

31193. concerned - 7/8/2008 2:57:43 PM

FISA? Kyl-Lieberman? Gay marriage?

Wouldn't know a flip-flop from his asshole

Jexster said it about his boy Hussein.

31194. arkymalarky - 7/8/2008 2:58:50 PM

Why? Oil companies have made the biggest profits in the history of capitalism. Corporate welfare is killing our economy and it has got to end. Too much wealth in the hands of too few will be the death of us.

And you didn't answer: how do you feel about casting a vote for McCain?

31195. jexster - 7/8/2008 3:08:56 PM

Yesterday, McSame was going to balance the budget in 4 years.

Today, eight

31196. jexster - 7/8/2008 3:09:36 PM

I bet TD likes his positions on Global warming

31197. concerned - 7/8/2008 3:23:40 PM

Re. 31194 -

I'm talking about capital gains for the small investor like you or me. I'm not very interested in jeopardizing my retirement in order to 'punish' some corporation.

31198. arkymalarky - 7/8/2008 3:28:05 PM

I don't think any tax policy Obama has proposed affects small investors. Looking at past votes isn't very instructive considering how irresponsible the Bush administration tax policies have been.

31199. concerned - 7/8/2008 3:33:18 PM

Sure it does. Look up what capital gains are. Virtually anybody who has money to invest can earn capital gains.

31200. concerned - 7/8/2008 3:43:10 PM

On the other side of the coin, consider that lowered capital gains taxes have been a major contributing factor to the stock market boom over the last 15 years.

Maybe if Hussein only increased capital gains taxes for really 'rich people'? But, I'm not holding my breath.

31201. jexster - 7/8/2008 3:43:17 PM

Obama favors letting the capital gains tax reduction expire in 2011 on schedule

Obama opposes the economic policies that have led to the McBush recession preceded by the weakest recovery on record, and unprecedented trade and budget deficits.

It is not a question of punishing anyone. It is a matter of sound fiscal policy

31202. concerned - 7/8/2008 3:45:59 PM

Actually, it should be called the Peloser/Reid recession if/when it begins because Congress controls the nation's spending, not the President, since you are unaware of that, rejexst.

31203. jexster - 7/8/2008 3:48:27 PM

Bullshit

31204. jexster - 7/8/2008 3:49:39 PM

We're calling it what it is. You weren't even calling it a recession 2 weeks ago

My what a tangled TD weaves...

31205. jexster - 7/8/2008 3:50:33 PM

The subject again - teh McBush tax cuts and the McBush recession

31206. jexster - 7/8/2008 3:52:21 PM

And I gaurantee you that Obama's not going to be running away from Pelosi or Reid nor will democrats try to hide their party affiiliations this year

31207. concerned - 7/8/2008 3:59:54 PM

And I'm still not saying it's a recession - yet. It's called being consistent, rejexst, something you only ever are for the wrong reasons.

Bush was president for six years with a Republican Congress and the economy was doing fine from first to last.

Now its going to shit. What changed? The Do Nothing Democrats seized control of both houses of Congress.

Now you want to pull the Handle for Hussein and flush the economy right into the sewer.

No doubt you will blame everything on Republicans while you guys are wrecking the economy. That's a given, based on your past record. What you probably don't realize, however, is that kind of ignorant finger pointing only shows how clueless and incompetent your side really is, rejexst.

31208. arkymalarky - 7/8/2008 4:06:13 PM

What is that saying, something about "a foolish consistency" and "hobgoblin"?

31209. jexster - 7/8/2008 4:33:12 PM

Sixteen months sounds about right

With a stunning 68% opposed to the McBush war, and the Iraqi government insisting that there was no "transcription error", insisting on a timetable for withdrawal of US forces, the Mc100year Warrior is looking more irrelevant and ridiculous than ever.


Maybe he'd be able to balance his budget if he wasn't burning 12 billion a month to aid Iran's puppet

31210. jexster - 7/8/2008 4:37:29 PM

Right about one thing

I am blaming all of it on 8 years of the most incompetent administration in US history and the GOP congress (remember 1994-2006)?

31211. jexster - 7/8/2008 4:39:01 PM

Stop Future McBush Wars


James Baker/Warren Christopher recommend changes to War Powers Act

31212. jexster - 7/8/2008 4:41:09 PM

The American people remember what Concerned conveniently forgets


Congress
July 8 Rasmussen
Democrats 47%, Republicans 34%

31213. jexster - 7/8/2008 4:47:03 PM

CNN Rips McBush Economic Horseshit

ROBERTS: I checked the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a non-partisan organization. They project that by extending the president's tax cuts, which you want to do, and adding in the tax cuts that you're proposing, the deficit for the year 2013 would be somewhere around $439 to $445 billion. So I think it is a fair question to ask, how would you get that number down to zero?

MCCAIN: First, I suggest you check in with other organizations. But the fact is there's a whole lot of economists, including Nobel laureates that agree with my plan. We're going to reach restrained spending, we're going to have the economy grow again and increase revenues. The problem is that spending got completely out of control. We grew government by some 40% since the Great Society. The spending got out of control, we restrained spending, we keep people's taxes low. We create jobs, 700,000 jobs by building new nuclear power plants, 20,000 new jobs by coal gasification, so that we have clean coal technologies, new automotive technologies, and we'll balance the budget. The same outfit said that we could never balance the budget in the past. We certainly have. It's spending that's out of control, my friend.

ROBERTS: I also checked with the Congressional Budget Office and the Center for Budget and Policy Priority's numbers were more conservative, they were lower than the CBO's numbers. The CBO's numbers are higher.

Gets worse

31214. jexster - 7/8/2008 5:15:35 PM

Maybe this is why the Democrats are looking forward so eagerly to House and Senate races 120 days or so from today

Ill GOP'er admits to China Drilling Lie


IOW - LIES HAVE CONSEQUENCES

A lesson TD has had some difficulty learning

31215. thoughtful - 7/8/2008 5:28:01 PM

Bush was president for six years with a Republican Congress and the economy was doing fine from first to last.

Yeah, if you turn a blind eye to the recession that started in March 2001 and lasted until November 2001 and was followed by the job-loss recovery where for 28 months, employment didn't even reach the 11/01 level and 38 months before it reached the level it was at when w took office.

How soon they forget...

31216. jexster - 7/8/2008 5:28:05 PM

31212 of course is the OTHER part of the Rasmussen poll on Congress.

You know the part that completes the TRUTH, the part ConMan left out

31217. jexster - 7/8/2008 5:29:04 PM

"Job-loss recovery" good one.

Better than the "jobless" recovery as bad as THAT is

31218. jexster - 7/8/2008 5:58:32 PM

Change to what?

Democrats Launch Major Drive for Universal Health Care


Enough of TD parading his ignorance as if it were an excuse for anyone else's.

The differences between what the Democrats are offering and the Republican policies of the last 8 years could not be more pronounced or obvious

If concerned hasn't the courage of his convictions, well that's hardly surprising.

I wouldn't either if I were him. Then again, if I were him, I'd be one of those Repuglicans afraid to let others know my registration

31219. concerned - 7/8/2008 6:06:30 PM