American Politics, pt. 14

20001. jexster - 8/16/2007 11:53:38 AM

It is Judith. But we've come to expect sneaky from Texicans these past 7 years.

Almost redundant

20002. jexster - 8/16/2007 12:19:54 PM

Do I hear an AMEN Sister!

Huckabee Says Web Site And Fundraising Picking Up After Straw Poll


Mike Huckabee says that after his second-place finish at the Iowa Straw Poll, traffic to his Web site has picked up considerably — 30,000 hits per day, more than they previously got in a week — and fundraising is picking up as well. "The people who wouldn't even return our calls last week are calling us now ready to host fundraisers and get on board," Huckabee said, although he declined to say just how much money has come in since Saturday.

20003. jexster - 8/16/2007 1:48:14 PM

Romney Attacks Obama
Fact Check: A Phony Profiles in Ignorance



20004. concerned - 8/16/2007 2:11:15 PM

Re. 19986 -

Try to stay with me on this one, jexster. The AP/Ipsos poll gives Congress 25%, George W. Bush 35% approval ratings. Bush's excess margin of approval is: (35%-25%)/25%=10/25=0.4=40%.

If you can't follow this with your innumerate understanding, get somebody who is not mathematically challenged to explain it to you.



20005. jexster - 8/16/2007 2:16:01 PM

Fuzzy math!



20006. jexster - 8/16/2007 2:16:51 PM

Obscures objective truth



AP/Ipsos Poll: Bush, Congress In Perverse Struggle For Low Marks From Public

20007. jexster - 8/16/2007 3:24:39 PM

Arky,

Here's a "tool kit", a list of links to articles on grassroots organizing from the KSG Practicing Democracy Network (Ganz)

Give you a flavor for the Camp Obama curiculum

20008. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/16/2007 3:48:02 PM

20009. jexster - 8/16/2007 3:49:48 PM

Vilified Again

Hillary Agonistes

20010. jexster - 8/16/2007 7:16:14 PM

ALARM!
Democrats Seek to Defeat Plan to Change California Electoral Law

Democrats are rallying to put in place the organization to defeat a ballot proposal from a Republican lawyer that would divide California's electoral votes by district, thus making a national Democratic presidential victory in 2008 all but impossible. Hollywood producer Steve Bing and investor Tom Steyer are forming a political committee, backed by Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and other prominent Democrats, that will raise money to combat the proposal. In a joint statement, Sens. Feinsten and Boxer derided the Republican effort as a "power grab" and "another cynical move to keep the presidency in Republican control."



Bout time the Dems started screaming bout this. I've seen several media items in the last couple of days.

June ballot when turnout is sure to be next to non-existent

20011. jexster - 8/16/2007 7:33:42 PM

Obama on Daily Show 8/22

20012. concerned - 8/16/2007 10:32:41 PM

Re. 20006 -

I see you're thinking of me, Wombat of Weirdness. Unfortunately, perhaps, for you, I'm a centrist, not a moderate, nor a Republican, and I don't stick anything up my ass, don't wear glasses, and my hair is not receding.

20013. concerned - 8/16/2007 10:34:13 PM

Ooops, that's re 20008. My memory isn't quite as good I thought.

20014. arkymalarky - 8/16/2007 10:51:51 PM

Tole ya

20015. concerned - 8/16/2007 10:59:15 PM

The administration responds to unfair criticism from Hilliary and that's intended to help her?

I think that's a stretch. She is, after all, by far the frontrunner.

20016. arkymalarky - 8/16/2007 11:05:20 PM

They're trying to unite Democrats behind her. What better way than to attack her? But there's more to it than that in the article. She's the frontrunner nationwide, but in the earliest primaries, she isn't. Past circumstances show that there is no way she can take the nomination for granted, and Republican strategists want her to win that nomination as much as she wants it. Her high negatives are their best hope of victory in Nov '08 with such a weak slate of GOP candidates, and they know it.

20017. concerned - 8/16/2007 11:06:03 PM

Even Mercurio admits she is leading her Democrat rivals 'by double digits'. I should also mention that it should be obvious that it makes no sense for the Republicans to deliberately try to 'help' her by intervening under these circumstances and this long before the party nomination.

20018. concerned - 8/16/2007 11:09:53 PM

I don't think you'll often see Republicans praising Democrat presidential candidates under most real world circumstances. And it's natural that they'd be most likely to criticize something about the front-runner, whoever he or she may be, especially when the front runner led off with the attacks.

20019. arkymalarky - 8/16/2007 11:10:37 PM

Even Mercurio admits she is leading her Democrat rivals 'by double digits'.

Not in the early primary states. AND those numbers are not bankable at this point, as past front-running nobodies can tell you.

It makes worlds of sense for the GOP to help her now, because if they can help her with the "foregone conclusion" tack by treating her as the only candidate worth responding to they can drive the Dems to rally behind her and build her strength up through those early states where her lead isn't strong.

20020. arkymalarky - 8/16/2007 11:12:12 PM

Watergate was all about trying to knock out the top Democratic candidate--Muskie--and get the weakest in. They're doing the same thing, but (one assumes) legally. Which is why Dems who have eyes can see the strings.

20021. concerned - 8/16/2007 11:12:38 PM

Well, FWIW, I think the extended election season is a mistake, all partisanship aside.

20022. arkymalarky - 8/16/2007 11:13:51 PM

They have no reason to focus on the "front runner" of the opposing party right now if there weren't some strategy behind it. They have ZERO to work with in their own party, so it's their best strategy, unless some decent GOP candidate appears for them to promote. And Fred Thompson ain't it, imo.

20023. arkymalarky - 8/16/2007 11:16:07 PM

Well, FWIW, I think the extended election season is a mistake, all partisanship aside.

I absolutely agree with that. And I don't like the media's coverage for either group. They're desperately trying to turn Huckabee into somebody on the GOP ticket and not covering candidates from either party well, imo.

20024. concerned - 8/16/2007 11:28:26 PM

They have no reason to focus on the "front runner" of the opposing party right now if there weren't some strategy behind it.

Sure they do. That person is getting the most attention by his or her party's electorate, and that increases the importance of correcting false or distorted representations by that person. How that balances against whether doing so will affect partisan support for that candidate may be a significant, but definitely a separate issue.

20025. concerned - 8/16/2007 11:32:51 PM

what it boils down to is that I allow for the likelihood that the initial Republican response in this case was motivated primarily by the subject at hand, not long range political triangulation.

20026. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/17/2007 12:19:38 AM

20027. jexster - 8/17/2007 8:26:26 AM

I see you're thinking of me, Wombat of Weirdness. Unfortunately, perhaps, for you, I'm a centrist, not a moderate, nor a Republican, and I don't stick anything up my ass, don't wear glasses, and my hair is not receding.

Got a big farm boy doin the stickin do ya?

20028. jexster - 8/17/2007 11:07:01 AM

Meet the Traitor


At 1907 GMT on 6 August Al-Jazirah carries a new episode of its weekly program "From Washington" presented Abd-al-Rahim Fuqara. The program hosts Richard Armitage, former US deputy secretary of state.

20029. jexster - 8/17/2007 3:19:19 PM

Call him "Crazy" TD!

CNN ledes the Hastert resignation "A year ago Dennis Hastert stood before the press and confidently predicted that the GOP would not only hold Congress but increase its majority. Today he announced his retirement"

The Night of the election, TD "call me crazy but I think the GOP will hold on to both House and Senate"


When are you gonna retire TD?

I'll invite Pelosi to the party

20030. jexster - 8/17/2007 4:24:45 PM

Krugman

20031. arkymalarky - 8/17/2007 10:45:55 PM

Wiz, that's an absolute RIOT!

20032. jexster - 8/17/2007 10:58:39 PM

I am none too fond of people who are cruel to cats myself

20033. arkymalarky - 8/17/2007 11:04:52 PM

Hey Jex, do you have a public email? I wanted to email you about something.

20034. arkymalarky - 8/17/2007 11:05:15 PM

If not, you can email me at amalarky@yahoo.com

20035. arkymalarky - 8/17/2007 11:06:11 PM

I'm through with grad school and I have my pet projects going again--namely work and rural ed advocacy.

AND I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!!!

20036. concerned - 8/18/2007 12:21:38 AM

Re. 20029 -

Guess the American People were just hankering to get a Democrat majority in Congress so they could give them lower approval ratings than they ever gave Republicans.

20037. concerned - 8/18/2007 12:25:26 AM

110th Peloser Congress -

Worst Congress Ever!

20038. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/18/2007 12:42:11 AM

20039. concerned - 8/18/2007 2:38:06 AM















110th Peloser Congress -



Worst Congress Ever!














20040. jexster - 8/18/2007 5:08:04 AM

I Heart Huckabee !!!!


Huckabee Hearts the Clintons!

The Other Man from Hope!

20041. jexster - 8/18/2007 5:17:43 AM

Worst Congres Ever!


FBI Scrutinizes Stevens and VECO Contracts




while

Florida County Votes to Send Back Earmarks from Sleazeball GOP Congressman

in the worst Congrss ever

Gonzalez Lies Continue - The Top 6

20042. jexster - 8/18/2007 5:42:27 AM

TD Retires!

After Losses, Several GOP Veterans Head for the Exits


Well ya know most of em got elected on term limits about 6 or so terms ago



I guess it's time



For Concerned's Years of Service With a Cat Up His Ass

20043. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/18/2007 9:59:05 AM

Thanks & congrats, arky!

20044. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/18/2007 11:53:51 AM

20045. jexster - 8/18/2007 12:23:40 PM

Arky that you?

Oh dear...Huckabee Movin On Up
"I'm a Mainstreet Republican"



223 Main Street
Hope, AR

20046. jexster - 8/18/2007 2:47:44 PM

20047. jexster - 8/18/2007 4:18:11 PM

Arky - Politics is all relative..who, in her righteous mind, wouldn't then HEART HUCKABEE?

sent you an email....my address is jex2@sbcglobal.net ...same same public private all go to same box

Worse than Bush?
Giuliani's dangerous bluster

Joe Conason, ArKANSAN Reformed



Reading Giuliani and imagining that he might somehow become president induces a profound sense of gloom. Fortunately, there is comic relief. At one of many points where he attempts to display his erudition and expertise, he notes the "cultural exchanges" that allegedly brought about the end of the Soviet empire. The example he cites is pianist Van Cliburn's concerts in Moscow, which "hastened change."

Van Cliburn played Moscow in 1958. The Soviet Union fell in 1989. If change were any hastier, the Berlin Wall would still be intact.


Foreign policy "Experience"?

20048. jexster - 8/18/2007 10:39:46 PM

The Scorn Supremacy
Towards a Sustainable Contempt Policy


Obama on Daily Show WEDNESDAY



20049. jexster - 8/19/2007 4:38:15 PM

Heckuva job Howdy Duty!

WASHINGTON - Sapped by nearly six years of war, the Army has nearly exhausted its fighting force


20050. jexster - 8/19/2007 8:52:04 PM

The face of the Republican Party in Iowa is the face of a losing party, full of hatred toward immigrants, lust for government subsidies, and the demand that any Republican seeking the office of the presidency acknowledge that he's little more than Jesus Christ's running mate.
Ryan Sager, The New York Sun (via Frank Rich)

20051. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/19/2007 8:59:05 PM

Bill Moyer's Journal last night:

Moyers: "Karl Rove figured out a long time ago that the way to take an intellectually incurious draft-averse naughty playboy in a flight jacket with chewing tobacco inhis back pocket and make him governor of Texas, was to sell him as God's anointed in a state where preachers and televangelists outnumber even oil derricks and jack rabbits. Using church pews as precincts Rove turned religion into a weapon of political combat a batteringram, aimed at the devil’s minions, especially at gay people.

It's so easy, as Karl knew, to scapegoat people you outnumber, and if God is love, as rumor has it, Rove knew that, in politics, you better bet on fear and loathing. Never mind that in stroking the basest bigotry of true believers you coarsen both politics and religion."

20052. concerned - 8/19/2007 9:30:09 PM

I hadn't thought Moyers was such a bullshitter. His words mean nothing - he can't point at anything Republicans have done to justify what he wrote here.

20053. concerned - 8/19/2007 9:32:51 PM

So, how is it that all the major 'Rat candidates denial of marriage to gays is not 'a batteringram, aimed at the devil's minions, especially at gay people'?

20054. concerned - 8/19/2007 9:34:56 PM

I want to see, just once, a WoW response that is to the point, rather than merely be insulting.

20055. jexster - 8/19/2007 9:48:22 PM

So, how is it that all the major 'Rat candidates denial of marriage to gays is not 'a batteringram, aimed at the devil's minions, especially at gay people'?


Trick question

20056. jexster - 8/19/2007 9:50:25 PM

Someone else brought up the subject of Rove's God and Guns program in Tejas..how he was an Episcopalian (oh the shame!) and didn't give a shit but when he saw which way the winds were blowing he led a purge of the Texas GOP to the point where in Dallas, they stopped serving cocktails at functions and started serving milk shakes and sundaes!

20057. jexster - 8/19/2007 9:50:47 PM

err

God
Guns
Gays

20058. concerned - 8/19/2007 10:09:46 PM

Thanks for the ancient history lesson, Jexster. Means nothing.

20059. jexster - 8/19/2007 10:11:16 PM

Gimme a break!


2004 too ancient for your history book!

20060. jexster - 8/19/2007 10:14:21 PM

EUREKA....

He found religion, even if he didn't find Jesus. And it was a foxhole conversion at best. Rove had been brought to Texas by the elder Bush in the early '80s and devoted his energies to building a Republican Party where there was none -- using direct mail, money and databases in ways that Texas Democrats never imagined. There was one statewide Republican elected official when Rove began his work, U.S. Sen. John Tower. Today, Republicans hold all 22 statewide offices. But the party Karl Rove built was based on the economic conservatism of Barry Goldwater, not the social conservatism of Jerry Falwell. Once Bush was elected governor, Rove marginalized the Christian right's party chairman, Tom Pauken, denying him access to party money, and when Pauken ran for state attorney general, Rove quietly assisted the campaign of his primary opponent, John Cornyn, who now represents Texas in the United States Senate. Yet despite the low regard in which he held evangelicals, Rove recognized the importance of keeping them in harness with economic conservatives.

The "guns, God, and gays" campaigns that defined Texas politics and the politics of the South became the model for Republican Party campaigns across the country. It was Rove who was responsible for the whispering campaign that characterized Democratic Gov. Ann Richards, Bush's opponent in the 1994 governor's race, as a closet lesbian, in a successful attempt to peel away conservative Christian votes in East Texas.

Perhaps the most recent example of a successful social-issues campaign was in Ohio during the 2004 election, which provided critical electoral votes to secure George Bush's second term. With Bush in peril of losing to John Kerry, the Republican National Committee looked to David Barton to go into Ohio and turn out the base. Barton is a former vice chairman of the Texas Republican Party and one of the founders of the WallBuilders, a Christian advocacy group working to restore God to His central position in American history, and in the history and social studies curricula of the nation's public schools.

Barton comes straight out of the social conservative wing of the Republican Party Rove put together and then left behind in Texas when he followed Bush to Washington in 2001. And Barton represents both the success and what now might be the failure of the Republican Party Rove cobbled together. U.S. District Judge John E. Jones III mentioned Barton by name, in his 2005 opinion that declared "intelligent design" (biblical creationism dressed up as science) unconstitutional to teach in the nation's public schools. Jones, a George W. Bush appointee to the federal bench, was particularly offended by the Dover, Penn., school board president's stated intention to move from Christian intelligent design in biology classes to Christian social studies in history classes. The judge cited both Barton and his book, "The Myth of Separation," as examples of a school board that was in open violation of the Constitution. (WallBuilders do not recognize the separation of church and state as defined by the First Amendment.)



The Kollapse of Karl

20061. concerned - 8/19/2007 10:27:18 PM

Guess you can't even say 'moral values' nowadays without being accused of being anti-gay.

I think that's an insane situation.

20062. concerned - 8/19/2007 10:32:40 PM

Re. 20059 -

You mean, '1994', of course, because by mentioning Texas, you are obviously referring to GWB's gubernatorial defeat of Ann Richards.

20063. jexster - 8/19/2007 10:37:29 PM

What do you think TD?

20064. jexster - 8/19/2007 10:39:04 PM

The poisonous rhetorical legacy of Karl Rove

Even Fox's Chris Wallace wants to know why Bush's newly departed advisor had to paint Democrats as traitors.

By Juan Cole

20065. jexster - 8/19/2007 10:40:56 PM

We'll go no more a-Rove-ing


The country takes leave of the political serial killer who tried to forge a one-party state. But don't expect the Mayberry Machiavelli to pay for his civic sins.
By Sidney Blumenthal

20066. jexster - 8/19/2007 10:49:46 PM

Yet one more tiresome proof that TD makes history up. Just like Karl Rove and the Orwellian propagandists of the Bush Regime, these hayseed hucksters depend first and foremost on the assumption that we all live in what Gore Vidal calls "the United States of Amnesia"


20067. jexster - 8/19/2007 10:53:02 PM

The entire catastrophic legacy of the Reign of Cheney/Bush - to finish the Nixon Revolution......

Rove's merger of politics and policy was an effort to forge a total one-party state. While he is acclaimed as a political strategist, his true innovation was in governing. He sought to subordinate the entire federal government to his goal of creating a permanent Republican majority. Every department and agency has been subject to an intense and thorough politicization. Indeed, Rove's ambitious plan was tantamount to a proto-Sovietization. Even science has been suppressed in the name of the party line, recalling the Lysenko episode. Cheney and Rove acted as the pincers of the unitary executive. While Cheney sought to concentrate unaccountable power in the presidency, Rove brought down the anvil of politics on the professional career staff.


Rove's saga is a rags-to-riches success story of a political serial killer. His first involvement in a political campaign was to conduct a dirty trick against a candidate running for Illinois state treasurer. After Rove dropped out of the University of Utah, his promise was recognized and he was appointed executive director of the College Republicans. Donald Segretti, ringmaster for the Committee to Reelect the President of a gang of dirty tricksters engaged in what he called "ratfucking," recruited Rove. Rove conducted one session training young Republicans to sift through the garbage of opponents. In the Watergate scandal, Segretti was sentenced to prison for forging campaign literature.

20068. concerned - 8/19/2007 10:58:41 PM

I didn't 'make up' anything, jexster.

20069. jexster - 8/19/2007 11:05:53 PM

Here's a clue....


Gay marriage initiatives 2004


A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage. (Applause.)

The outcome of this debate is important -- and so is the way we conduct it. The same moral tradition that defines marriage also teaches that each individual has dignity and value in God's sight. (Applause.)






You make most things up...from your junk science to your "reluctant" support of the Iraq war to the cat that's up your ass right now

20070. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/19/2007 11:13:51 PM

20054. concerned - 8/19/2007 9:34:56 PM

I want to see, just once, a WoW response that is to the point, rather than merely be insulting.


20071. jexster - 8/19/2007 11:22:43 PM

Now the Republicans have the Mexicans to beat up so I guess I am safe for a while

20072. concerned - 8/20/2007 12:14:28 AM

Re. 20069 -

You saying Xlowntoon is a Republican here? Do you have a point at all?

20073. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/20/2007 12:16:48 AM

20074. jexster - 8/20/2007 10:45:25 AM

20069

no

yes

20075. jexster - 8/20/2007 10:59:52 AM

Yesterday's Bullshit

Bush's Sweeping Push For Democracy Falters


President's vision of ending global tyranny stalls in a bureaucratic and geopolitical morass, say activists, officials and even White House aides.



Today's catastrophe.
Fucking election ju-ju

I hear he's going to hire "scholars" at his Liberrry who will develop his "vision thing"

20076. jexster - 8/20/2007 11:41:03 AM

Victory!

We have overcome


NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New York Times Co. plans to stop charging Internet users for access to its columnists and Op-Ed pieces on a section of its Web site known as TimesSelect, The New York Post reported on Tuesday.

Bite me Wonk

20077. jexster - 8/20/2007 6:35:03 PM

And to think I compared this doofus to Mussolini



A thousand pardons Duce!

Secret White House Manual: How to Stop Anti-Bush T-Shirts
ABC News

20078. jexster - 8/20/2007 10:42:31 PM

Scholtzman Out at DOJ
GOP "Voter Fraud" Huckster Resigns

20079. jexster - 8/21/2007 12:01:14 AM

20080. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/21/2007 12:30:14 AM

Schlozman was such an obsequious little worm and it was so apparent during his testimony before the congressional committees. He was the little ambitious partisan creep willing to do anything to get noticed. It was so easy to see why Freddo and his keepers kept him around.

20081. thoughtful - 8/21/2007 10:30:50 AM

Maher on Neocons

20082. jexster - 8/21/2007 11:30:14 AM

The The Texicans of El Paso have a diffrent view of Mexicans

Mexicans and Texicans - brothers in the blood and soil..


Now North America's fourth-largest manufacturing hub -- after Los Angeles, Chicago and Dallas-Fort Worth -- El Paso and Juarez's surrounding state of Chihuahua have 270,000 manufacturing jobs, three times as many as Detroit, in 400 maquiladoras, or duty-free factories, economic development officials said. About 78 percent of residents are Hispanic, and 25 percent are foreign-born. Families send breadwinners across the bridge daily to work, and children to study.

Texico to Mexico....it's right thing to do for Mexicans, for Texicans for AMERICANS

20083. jexster - 8/21/2007 12:05:20 PM

Five Wars, Five Losses


The Terror Index

Center for American Progress/Foreign Policy




  • Iraq
  • Afghanistan
  • Lebanon
  • Somalia
  • War of Terror

    20084. jexster - 8/21/2007 12:28:31 PM

    Michelle Baits Billary

    20085. jexster - 8/21/2007 12:37:45 PM

    I didn't watch the Stephanopolous debate but Frank Luntz and his focus group did.

    The Fox Noise Report tells the tale....


    20086. concerned - 8/21/2007 12:46:19 PM

    Gallup poll extends George W. Bush's approval rating to 78% over Worst Congress Ever

    PRINCETON, NJ -- A new Gallup Poll finds Congress' approval rating the lowest it has been since Gallup first tracked public opinion of Congress with this measure in 1974. Just 18% of Americans approve of the job Congress is doing, while 76% disapprove, according to the August 13-16, 2007, Gallup Poll.

    That 18% job approval rating matches the low recorded in March 1992
    (what else? a Democrat Congress), when a check-bouncing scandal was one of several scandals besetting Congress, leading many states to pass term limits measures for U.S. representatives (which the Supreme Court later declared unconstitutional). Congress had a similarly low 19% approval rating during the energy crisis in the summer of 1979.(You guessed it, another Democrat Congress).



    Worst...Congress...Ever!



    20087. jexster - 8/21/2007 12:50:25 PM

    Damn

    You'd think the money would be POURING into RNCC coffers wouldn't you?

    You'd think Republican congresspersons would be gearing up for campaigns and not running for the exits

    If you thought that, think again



    DCCC has a unprecendented 10:1 advantage



    Maybe people think that there are still too many Republicans in Congreff!


    THe 6 months/43 filibuster Congreff


    Worst ever!!

    20088. jexster - 8/21/2007 12:51:24 PM

    Real Men Aren't Afraid of Hugo Chavez

    20089. concerned - 8/21/2007 12:58:43 PM

    Holy shit, jexster! Put your toys away!

    20090. jexster - 8/21/2007 1:02:39 PM

    As you can see I DID!

    Now go max out your RNCC contributions. Put your money where your mouf is....


    Nancy sends her love


    20091. jexster - 8/21/2007 1:03:45 PM

    Manliness: It's Next to Godliness


    20092. concerned - 8/21/2007 1:07:19 PM

    What's your problem, jexter? You going blind?

    20093. jexster - 8/21/2007 1:12:31 PM

    My thing bigger than your thing TD - ManCode 4.34.1

    20094. thoughtful - 8/21/2007 1:20:28 PM

    I only glanced at KO last night as KO wasn't on, but there was a brief reference to something having come out that rove etal pushed for kerry because they thought he'd be the easiest to beat....

    20095. jexster - 8/21/2007 1:40:04 PM

    "kerry" a freudian slip!!


    This isn't from Olbermann but it puts the matter:

    20096. concerned - 8/21/2007 2:15:57 PM













    Worst...Congress...Ever!!!

    20097. concerned - 8/21/2007 2:18:00 PM

    Now all we need is a Congressional Scandal and the 'Rat Congress approval rating will go from Peloser's IQ to her shoe size.

    20098. jexster - 8/21/2007 2:35:49 PM

    Trouble is all you guyz are getting is MORE GOP scandals....Donald Young (R-AK)

    20099. jexster - 8/21/2007 2:41:43 PM

    America's ready to clean out Bushville DC


    And that includes the War Party's Foreign Policy Courtiers

    There is one thing you must never do if you want to be considered a Serious Foreign Policy Thinker in Washington: Don't stop to consider the lessons of history before proposing massive redesigns to another part of the world. Michael O'Hanlon and other Iraq war backers were wildly incorrect in their last set of predictions, but that hasn't stopped them from promoting still more grand schemes. Now O'Hanlon wants to partition Iraq.


    Serious Thought: Experience in Bushville



    When the history of this war is written, when it is revised and rewritten, one theme will remain constant - at no time has the Washington policy debate had much to do with what was actually going on in Iraq.

    At one time, that debate certainly affected the lives of Iraqis. Now it is, in the main, as irrelevant as it is fanciful

    20100. thoughtful - 8/21/2007 2:51:14 PM

    If you haven't read it, you should. It's one of the best pieces I've seen on iraq, told by soldiers who've seen it up close and personal. While reading it, I couldn't help but think of lawrence of arabia. If only someone, someone in the neocon world had seen the flick before they entered iraq!

    Political reconciliation in Iraq will occur, but not at our insistence or in ways that meet our benchmarks. It will happen on Iraqi terms when the reality on the battlefield is congruent with that in the political sphere. There will be no magnanimous solutions that please every party the way we expect, and there will be winners and losers. The choice we have left is to decide which side we will take. Trying to please every party in the conflict — as we do now — will only ensure we are hated by all in the long run.

    At the same time, the most important front in the counterinsurgency, improving basic social and economic conditions, is the one on which we have failed most miserably. Two million Iraqis are in refugee camps in bordering countries. Close to two million more are internally displaced and now fill many urban slums. Cities lack regular electricity, telephone services and sanitation. “Lucky” Iraqis live in gated communities barricaded with concrete blast walls that provide them with a sense of communal claustrophobia rather than any sense of security we would consider normal.

    In a lawless environment where men with guns rule the streets, engaging in the banalities of life has become a death-defying act. Four years into our occupation, we have failed on every promise, while we have substituted Baath Party tyranny with a tyranny of Islamist, militia and criminal violence. When the primary preoccupation of average Iraqis is when and how they are likely to be killed, we can hardly feel smug as we hand out care packages. As an Iraqi man told us a few days ago with deep resignation, “We need security, not free food.”

    In the end, we need to recognize that our presence may have released Iraqis from the grip of a tyrant, but that it has also robbed them of their self-respect. They will soon realize that the best way to regain dignity is to call us what we are — an army of occupation — and force our withdrawal.

    20101. judithathome - 8/21/2007 3:01:36 PM

    Hey, we need serious help on this thread...it is way outta whack!

    20102. concerned - 8/21/2007 3:11:58 PM

    jexster just doesn't clean up his toys because he thinks he can distract from my posting on the Democrat Congress. Well, he's got another think coming. When 20 posts have passed, then, blammo, up it goes again:)

    20103. jexster - 8/21/2007 3:51:23 PM

    There's a reason TD posts large...

    There's a reason the DCCC has raised a phenomenal TEN TIMES (that's 1000% TD) more than their GOP counterparts.


    And it's the WORST CONGREFF EVER!

    Ted Stevens (R-AK) Makes His Friends Look Bad


    You want Congressional scandal TD? Be careful what you ask for.

    More indictments of GOP congreffoids coming

    20104. jexster - 8/21/2007 3:53:44 PM

    20100


    Fighting an insurgency is like eating soup with a fork
    TE Lawrence

    20105. thoughtful - 8/21/2007 8:29:57 PM

    20106. thoughtful - 8/21/2007 8:30:39 PM

    Did that help? my machine at work didn't reveal the screwed up fonts, but my machine at home shows giant red! Jex! Pick up your toys!

    20107. thoughtful - 8/21/2007 8:30:57 PM

    Ah,finally

    20108. concerned - 8/21/2007 10:37:50 PM





    Worst...Congress...Ever!!!

    20109. robertjayb - 8/21/2007 10:37:57 PM

    Well done. Thanks.

    20110. concerned - 8/21/2007 10:38:41 PM

    You're very welcome.

    20111. concerned - 8/21/2007 10:51:37 PM


    Clinton faces gender gap as she stumps in Iowa


    20112. concerned - 8/21/2007 10:57:59 PM

    Unlike jexster, I can control my fonts.

    20113. jexster - 8/21/2007 10:58:40 PM

    Just think. If that woman had learned how to put a health care plan together and/or learnt the art of baking cookies/bjs or hells bells even making biscuits and wallpaper paste..er gravy for Bill, we wouldn't have to deal with her Brunhilde actin

    20114. jexster - 8/21/2007 11:01:35 PM

    Hello! I don't know what you all have been snortin but I haven't a toys problem all day.



    Why should I? The Senatorial campaign committees have reported in and it's bad news indeed for Harry Reid


    He only has a 3:1 cash advantage over the Republicans

    Worst Congreff ever?

    At this rate, it can't get much worser for the GOP

    20115. concerned - 8/21/2007 11:10:15 PM

    Hate to break it to ya, jexster, but both houses of Congress are controlled by Democrats. The 18% approval rating is all theirs.

    20116. concerned - 8/21/2007 11:12:19 PM

    That 'Rat drop to 18%, besides being an absolute historic minimum, must have set a record for quickest voters remorse in history.

    20117. concerned - 8/21/2007 11:14:09 PM

    jexster - aren't you going to thank thoughtful for cleaning up your toys, you ingrate?

    20118. jexster - 8/21/2007 11:28:40 PM

    Thoughtful's high...didn't clean up a dang thang..

    And YOU

    Aider and abettor of treason..yes TREASON


    Wednesday's Iraq papers discuss Who will inherit Southern Provincese of Iraq - the ones with all that oil and the only exit for the US other than helicopter skids

    Will it be My MAIN MAN
    Muqtada or

    Bush's Best Friend, the Iranian puppet al-Hakim?



    Real Americans support Muqtada!

    20119. concerned - 8/21/2007 11:41:00 PM

    You mean your pet pig Porky?

    20120. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/22/2007 12:27:19 AM


    20121. jexster - 8/22/2007 9:25:23 AM

    As American military officers gain rank, they soon learn that the absolute worst political sin is "committing truth." Any time they say something that contradicts what is coming out of the White House or the office of the secretary of defense, they find themselves in very hot water. If they persist in the annoying practice, they discover they do not quality for senior commands.

    If Gen. Petraeus is to present a genuine military report in September and not a "cooked" political document, he will have to buck the system. It should be fairly easy to judge whether he has done that or not, because if he has, the White House will howl. The gap between the reality in Iraq and the administration's rhetoric is so wide that it should show dramatically in any genuine military analysis. If it does not, and if the White House regards his report complacently, with just a few quibbles as part of the kabuki, then it amounts to nothing more than one of Napoleon's bulletins – from which we got the phrase, "to lie like a bulletin."

    Come September, we will find out what Gen. Petraeus is made of. Depending on that, we may also find out something about the war in Iraq.


    PetRaeus Report: More Kabuki - William Lind






    20122. thoughtful - 8/22/2007 9:26:59 AM

    So which candidate is your candidate? Can you tell by the statements they've made? If you want to learn more about where the candidates stand...or at least say they stand...on the issues and how that meshes with your point of view, check out myelectionchoices.com. You are given a list of statements made by the various candidates without identification, select the ones you agree with, then view the results. It can be surprising.

    Just for fun, I did separation of church and state and found I was in most agreement with dodd and huckabee!

    20123. jexster - 8/22/2007 11:51:45 AM

    Iraq, Health Care
    Dodd
    Clinton
    Obama

    20124. jexster - 8/22/2007 12:06:01 PM

    Add foreign policy and Richardson replaces Dodd

    20125. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/22/2007 1:44:23 PM

    20126. thoughtful - 8/22/2007 2:26:16 PM

    Hah! I did trade and came out strongly with mccain and romney!

    20127. thoughtful - 8/22/2007 2:36:40 PM

    On education I agreed with mccain and obama...what the heck is going on???

    20128. jexster - 8/22/2007 2:47:43 PM

    You've got a short-circuit T'fill

    Now PAY ATTENTION..

    Here's the day's history lesson from the Decider:

  • Bush ties Iraq to Vietnam, South Korea, Japan
  • Bush compares Pearl Harbor to 9/11 to back Iraq policy

    That simple shit will literally say ANYTHING to save his sorry ass war....No wonder Americans are pissed at Congress for not doing anything about this asshole

    20129. jexster - 8/22/2007 2:50:37 PM

    5 wars..five losses
    Didn't have much to begin with, lost what little mind he had

    US Losing War on Terror
    Foreign Policy "Terrorism Index"

    20130. jexster - 8/22/2007 3:24:59 PM

    Bush Lies About AQI Captures in IraQ


    Noooo...Say it ain't so

    20131. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/22/2007 4:30:34 PM


    20132. thoughtful - 8/22/2007 4:52:13 PM

    Very interesting stuff in froomkin...I'm finally catching up on a few of them. So there's this whole thing about rove in 04 purposely trashing kerry to keep his name afloat, knowing the more they trashed him, the more the dems would support him, thinking he's easier to beat than edwards.

    So since he 'left' the white house, he's been on 3 talk shows where he refuses to talk about obama, but is more than willing to trash hillary. Same tactic? Especially after this:

    On Face the Nation, CBS's Bob Schieffer asked an innocuous opening question and got a tantalizing response.

    SCHIEFFER: "[Y]ou haven't been on any of the shows in a long, long time. Why did you decide suddenly to come out?

    "Mr. ROVE: Well, somebody else made the decision for me, and I'm just doing what I was instructed to do."

    Really? Who instructed him? And was he instructed to trash Clinton?


    Yeah, right he's going to spend more time with his family!

    20133. thoughtful - 8/22/2007 4:54:57 PM

    And then there's this gem:

    Bill Moyers writes on his PBS Web site: "Karl Rove figured out a long time ago that the way to take an intellectually incurious, draft-averse, naughty playboy in a flight jacket with chewing tobacco in his back pocket and make him governor of Texas, was to sell him as God's anointed in a state where preachers and televangelists outnumber even oil derricks and jack rabbits."

    20134. jexster - 8/22/2007 4:58:16 PM

    Cultural Learnings

    I will forgive Pamela, and I will go to California, with my friend Mr. Jesus, and we will take her!

    20131

    20135. jexster - 8/22/2007 8:00:57 PM

    Worst Congress Ever

    Hastert is leaving November 6








    2007

    according to Bob Novak

    20136. jexster - 8/22/2007 9:06:28 PM

    Carl Levin is an idiot and a marmot

    20137. jexster - 8/22/2007 9:30:13 PM

    Hillary Clinton and the Imbecile Levin have called on Iraqis to replace Maliki. Hillary Clinton at her disingenuous, best is dire need of a do-over. Too bad there aren't any in politics


    From the NewsHour Panel tonight:

    20138. jexster - 8/23/2007 12:21:31 PM

    Iowa Republicans Want Out of Iraq - In Six Months!


    Maybe that's why Hastert's in such a godawful hurry to bail

    20139. jexster - 8/23/2007 12:40:16 PM

    O on the Daily Show


    20140. jexster - 8/23/2007 12:58:50 PM

    Asked if he admired any of the Republican candidates, Obama offered faint praise: "Yeah, I think some of these folks are decent people."

    Obama cited only former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee by name.



    For me it was HEART at first sight!!!!



    20141. jexster - 8/23/2007 1:10:10 PM

    RoveBush's Massive Conspiracy to Violate the Hatch Act


    Waxman has a superabundance of "controlling legal authority"

    20142. jexster - 8/23/2007 1:51:43 PM

    The "Coventional Wisdom' of ClintonBushVille


    Hard to conceive a more self-canceling phrase

    20143. jexster - 8/23/2007 3:28:58 PM

    You introduce new products in August


    That's what Andy Card says anyway and apparently Obama agrees.

    Sunday's debate he "triple downed" according to Time and wiped out Frank Luntz's debate focus group Last night the Daily Show, today an exclusive interview and education speech coverage in Dillon SC on CNN

    CNN's tease - Obama without warmup, hitting a 3 nothing but net in a 100 degree Dillon school gym

    20144. jexster - 8/23/2007 3:51:40 PM

    Bad News for Bushville: Worst Congress Ever




    The country's being swept by a wave of Klowntoon nostalgia TD!

    Better stick a couple more cats up your butt

    20145. jexster - 8/23/2007 8:29:37 PM

    Grand Ole Pigpile -

    End of an Era

    Financial Times





    20146. jexster - 8/24/2007 11:00:47 AM

    First John Warner NOW


    Peter Pan Pace to Call for Cut and Run 50% Troop Reduction

    20147. jexster - 8/24/2007 6:40:22 PM

    Steve Clemons, New America Foundation:

    Hillary Clinton -- regrettably, as I do recognize her many strengths -- is staying in the past.

    That is why Brzezinski has called for Obama. Hillary Clinton could still be our next President, but she should not get defensive about Brzezinski's statement -- and instead, should dig a bit here and ask herself why her advisors are pushing her into anachronistic, 20th century grooves -- and not ones aimed at a clear-headed and consistent 21st century vision for the country.

    20148. jexster - 8/24/2007 7:05:58 PM

    Obama's moving out boys and girls. Win or lose, it will be remembered that the Demo campaign for president began with Obama's Iowa debate appearance


    The Pragmatic Obama
    He's Shaping the Debate on Foreign Policy

    By David Ignatius, WaPo

    20149. jexster - 8/24/2007 7:15:52 PM

    Brzezinski Embraces Obama Over Clinton for President (Bloomberg Update3)

    20150. Max Macks - 8/25/2007 3:38:35 PM

    Brzezinski, a harsh critic of the Bush administration's war in Iraq, slammed President George W. Bush for claiming progress is being made in Iraq and for asserting in an Aug. 22 speech that an early pullout would lead to the kind of bloodshed Southeast Asia experienced after American forces left Vietnam. "

    Zbig Brzezinsiki, has been my all time favorite
    person for years even tho I cannot spell his
    name from memory

    20151. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/25/2007 3:44:09 PM

    I agree Max, a man of integrity and intellect and how America needs his skills and insight now.

    20152. jexster - 8/26/2007 10:21:06 AM

    100% righteous charge
    Maliki's not going to be Hillary or Levin's do-over


    We fucked that country up not Maliki

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq's Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki lashed out on Sunday at U.S. Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton who had called for him to be replaced.


    In a sign of increased tension between him and Washington, Maliki also criticized the U.S. military for killing civilians.

    "There are American officials who consider Iraq as if it were one of their villages, for example Hillary Clinton and Carl Levin," Maliki told a news conference.



    NyT - Hillary's Manufactured Experience Issue


    20153. jexster - 8/26/2007 10:36:54 AM

    Regular Americans not just Republicans like Tom Delay and Ahnold should be able to enjoy a Cohiba from time to time.

    Florida Cubans can kiss my ass USA USA USA

    LAT: Obama Scores on Cuba Policy Change

    20154. arkymalarky - 8/26/2007 10:52:24 AM

    more on Republicans wanting Hillary to be the Dem nominee

    20155. jexster - 8/26/2007 11:19:07 AM

    Did you see the Salon Article???? In a poll of Iowa REPUBLICANS, asked who they preferred as a nominee, Obama beat Huckabee

    Any wonder Republicans want Hillary?


    No Do-Overs - Ten More Years

    the real test came over a lunch with Gen. David H. Petraeus, who used charts and a laser pointer to show how security conditions were gradually improving -- evidence, he argued, that the troop increase is doing some good.

    Still, the U.S. commander cautioned, it could take another decade before real stability is at hand. Schakowsky gasped. "I come from an environment where people talk nine to 10 months," she said, referring to the time frame for withdrawal that many Democrats are advocating. "And there he was, talking nine to 10 years."

    20156. jexster - 8/26/2007 5:19:48 PM

    Up for re-election is he?

    * Warner may back Dems' bill on withdrawal

    20157. jexster - 8/26/2007 6:55:22 PM

    Into the Belly of the Beast
    Elian is Free at Last





    While Shillary hugs the Bush line for dear life...the colored boy gets down


    MIAMI (AFP) - US Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Saturday promised a more open policy towards Cuba at a packed campaign rally in Miami, the heart of the anti-Castro Cuban exile community.


    "Just 90 miles from here there is a country where justice and freedom are out of reach," Obama told the cheering crowd packed into a city auditorium.

    "That's why my policy toward Cuba will be guided by one word: Liberty."

    Obama heartily criticized US President George W. Bush, who restricted travel to Cuba and money remittances to the island in 2004 with the goal of toppling the communist regime of President Fidel Castro.




    20158. jexster - 8/26/2007 10:08:56 PM

    Arky...

    You may have seen this months ago. NyT Magazine bit on David Axelrod who is Obama's political director - his Narrator

    I was re-reading in light of what I've seen of the organizing at the grassroots level and it is amazing. What the NYT reported last April is beginning to happen on the streets.....
    This is exactly what Camp Obama was about - Narratives. How to tell your story...Story of You, Story of US (your campaign team) and Story of Now - Your Campaign Team's action objectives


    Key Grafs:




    Win or lose, Obama is not only an electric political personality, he knows what the fuck he is doing and what he is doing - his goal - is ambitious to say the least

    Will he break through the Rovian Politics of Division and create an organization, a movement that gives him a mandate to govern?

    That's what he is attempting...pretty ballsy I'd say

    20159. robertjayb - 8/27/2007 8:52:14 AM

    Adios Speedy...

    CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) -- Embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, under fire from congressional Democrats, has resigned, senior Bush administration officials said Monday.

    20160. wonkers2 - 8/27/2007 9:01:25 AM

    Speedy

    20161. jexster - 8/27/2007 11:03:42 AM

    20162. jexster - 8/27/2007 11:18:50 AM

    Oya Senor we are federales...


    20163. jexster - 8/27/2007 11:55:02 AM

    I too think it a shame and a travesty that such a fine frijole couldn't jump on the business of his department because he was being bumper dragged through the mud for political reasons

    20164. thoughtful - 8/27/2007 12:37:07 PM

    so gonzales resigns.

    Why'd it take so long?

    Took him awhile to remember he WAS att. gen.!

    20165. jexster - 8/27/2007 1:08:12 PM

    Beltway Bumper Drag Through the Mud

    20166. Max Macks - 8/27/2007 1:19:58 PM

    so the last of that gang is gone except the
    worst one of all Prick Cheney.

    Rumsfeld, Wolfrowitz, and Rove(he was surprise
    I assumed ht would never leave ) , and now finally
    Gonzales,

    If I thought that Bush had any thoughts except for himself I would wonder how he feels now.

    20167. jexster - 8/27/2007 1:20:55 PM

    Fredo, Harriet, Karl, Dumbsfeld

    So much for the famous Bush Loyalty!!! All thrown under the bus. Another lie bites the dust


    The House should open impeachment proceedings against Cheney

    Be gone by Crimmus

    20168. jexster - 8/27/2007 3:27:39 PM

    Hillary's the one for the Grand Old Pigpile...this on MSNBC from the Midwest GOP Conference now going on...she's the hot topic...

    She makes em cream their designer jeans

    They're making novenas to St. Jude for Revenge of Brunhilde: Comeback Kid III & The Democratic Death Wish

    20169. robertjayb - 8/27/2007 3:35:10 PM

    Louisiana Treasurer Switches To GOP — May Run For Senate...(TPM election central)

    John Kennedy? OhMiGod!

    In a move that could throw a shadow over growing Dem optimism about making gains in the Senate in 2008, Louisiana Treasurer John N. Kennedy announced today that he is switching from the Democrats over to the Republican Party — a change widely seen as being a preliminary move towards challenging Democratic Senator Mary Landrieu.
    .................................................

    Louisiana is one of the few states in the country currently trending Republican. After the election of Senator David Vitter (R) to succeed retiring conservative Democrat John Breaux in 2004, the state's Democratic base was further damaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, which caused many black voters to move elsewhere. If Kennedy follows up on his party switch with a run for Senate — which Karl Rove had been courting him to do — expect it to be a very tough race for the Dems.


    Get this squared away, will you, jexster?

    How's your man Obama polling in LA?






    20170. jexster - 8/27/2007 4:12:48 PM

    I am not high enuf up the food chain for polling..Hell I can even get them to get off their asses and send my data coordinator the keys to the kingdom - the Voter Action Network


    Having sufficient problems at my pay grade

    I don't think the Kennedy thing matters ...just shows how hard up the GOP is in finding an opponent for Landrieu


    SC, GA, LA, MS, AL, TX - the Alamo of the Grand Old Pigpile

    20171. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/27/2007 5:48:09 PM

    20172. jexster - 8/27/2007 7:47:41 PM

    We weren't there but they were


    National Geographic Channel
    On Tonight: "Road to War: Iraq"



    I know she trusted Bush
    Make a great president someday. Just needs a little seasoning



    Throw that fish back in the water...haul her out in 8 years


    20173. jexster - 8/27/2007 8:21:15 PM

    Randy Republicans!


    Sen Larry Craig Cops a Plea
    Idaho Republican Caught Cruising Bathroom, Minneapolis Airport

    20174. jexster - 8/27/2007 8:32:58 PM

    Craig Called Bill a "Naughty Boy"

    I bet concerned gets laid all the time


    Think I'll switch parties...help out the ole love life...get some Viagra..head for some TRoom

    20175. jexster - 8/27/2007 8:35:19 PM

    Best Legal Defense of 2007

    A reader pointed me to this portion of the Roll Call report on the arrest of Sen. Larry "Wide Stance" Craig (R-ID), as recounted by the arresting officer:


    20176. jexster - 8/27/2007 10:07:13 PM

    Plenty of people claim to run "grassroots" campaigns, but very few have a candidate and a campaign strategy that actually live up to the term. Barack Obama is different....


    What a "Grassroots Campaign" Really Is


    Kudos to Arky

    She had this guy pegged from Day 1

    20177. jexster - 8/28/2007 6:39:29 AM

    What it took Hillary FOUR YEARS to discover, most of us around here knew at the time and still he goes on

    At least Brunhilde doesnt' believe him any more. That's experience!


    Bush's Reasons for War Keep Changing

    20178. jexster - 8/28/2007 7:03:53 AM

    In his two and a half years in the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama has been active -- even hyperactive -- on matters of energy and the environment. The Democrat from Illinois has introduced or cosponsored nearly 100 eco-related bills on issues ranging from lead poisoning and mercury emissions to auto fuel economy and biofuels promotion. Along the way, he has racked up a notable 96 percent rating from the League of Conservation Voters.

    Salon.com Examines Obama's Green Cred

    20179. jexster - 8/28/2007 3:13:21 PM

    Grand Old Pigpile 1
    A Ride Up the Hershey Highway


    More Republican Hypocrisy
    Larry Craig's bathroom behavior and the right wing -- then and now


    Now they're calling for castration


    The reaction to the Larry Craig story provides one of the most vivid illustrations yet of how the right-wing movement works. Last October, just weeks before the midterm election, gay activist Mike Rogers reported that the married, GOP "family values" Senator repeatedly had sex with anonymous men in public bathrooms. His report was based on "extensive research," including interviews with several men whom Craig solicited for bathroom sex. ...

    it is hard to overstate the intense fury that this pre-election report triggered from the Right -- not at Senator Craig for engaging in this behavior, but at Rogers for reporting it. A virtually unanimous chorus on the Right furiously insisted that nothing could be more irrelevant than whether the married family values Senator had sex with men in bathrooms (acts that are simultaneously criminal and adulterous). The same political movement that impeached Bill Clinton and which has made a living exploiting issues of private morality for political gain insisted that Rogers had reached a new and despicable low in politics even by reporting this.

    20180. jexster - 8/28/2007 4:32:32 PM

    Let the Witch Hunt Begin!


    Concerned, you a peter pumper?

    Senate Grand Old Pigpile "leadership" calls for ethics investigation


    20181. jexster - 8/28/2007 5:07:16 PM

    The Angel Moroni Weighs In...

    Smit the Shameless, just stuck a temple thong in Sen Wide Stance's mouth and threw him under the bus

    "We remember Bill Clinton....It strikes me that we have yet another instance of a public official falling short of the standards of personal conduct we have the right to expect"

    Romney's Idaho campaign manager fer crissakes

    First Fredo, now Larry

    20182. robertjayb - 8/28/2007 5:09:12 PM

    Craig: I am not gay. I have never been gay.

    Takes full responsibility for a lapse in judgement.

    Hoo-Hah!

    20183. thoughtful - 8/28/2007 5:21:26 PM

    How'd you like his line that he wasn't tapping the foot of the cop in the next booth...he just has a 'wide stance'.

    Uh huh.

    He wasn't sticking his hand out at the cop in the next booth...he was reaching for a piece of paper that dropped on the floor.

    Uh huh.

    There should be a penalty for lying, and an extra penalty for treating us like fools by stretching credulity beyond the breaking point.

    Cactus is a regular at the angry bear blog and has claimed Cactus' first law as follows:

    "those who talk a lot about ethics, morality, or patriotism generally have none."

    20184. concerned - 8/28/2007 5:32:00 PM

    I can hear it now from the LW peanut gallery about Gonzales' resignation.

    Chortle chortle chortle. Sneer sneer sneer.

    Yuk it up while you can, Lefties.

    20185. robertjayb - 8/28/2007 5:32:44 PM

    The Idaho Statesman is all over the Larry Craig story.

    In his press statement Craig claimed the paper has been hounding him.

    Damn liberal media.

    20186. jexster - 8/28/2007 5:33:55 PM

    "I Don't Suck D/ck


    The Ace of Spades does"


    20187. jexster - 8/28/2007 5:35:07 PM

    20184

    I bet Fredo takes cats up the ass just like you

    20188. jexster - 8/28/2007 5:38:04 PM

    By my count, Craig has blamed:

    1. the democratic party
    2. liberals
    3. the worldwide gay conspiracy
    4. The Idaho Statesman newspaper
    5. The Minneapolis Airport Pohlees



    You a PeterPumper too TD?


    BTW, Pelosi's going to launch impeachment proceedings against DickWad Cheney on Tues.

    If the past is prologue, should be gone by Saturday

    20189. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/28/2007 6:35:33 PM

    20190. jexster - 8/28/2007 6:46:54 PM

    Knew you'd cum thru Wizzer

    20191. jexster - 8/28/2007 7:21:02 PM

    TD..

    From "I am not a crook" to

    "I am not a fag"

    Not sure if the Pigpile's making progress or no

    20192. jexster - 8/28/2007 8:22:41 PM

    In all the kerfuffle about Sen Wide Stance's preversions, George W. Bush warned the American Legion that if we leave IraQ, we should expect mushroom clouds from IraN

    20193. robertjayb - 8/28/2007 9:45:58 PM

    One in ten unarmed. We need more guns.

    GENEVA — There are nine guns for every 10 people in the United States, with about 270 million firearms in circulation, according to a report released today.

    Worldwide, civilians now have access to 650 million small arms — from handguns to semiautomatic rifles — an arsenal that far outstrips what is held by police and militaries, according to the annual Small Arms Survey. It estimates that civilians account for about three-fourths of the 875 million such weapons in circulation.

    "Civilian holdings of weapons worldwide are much larger than we previously believed," the director of the Geneva-based group, Keith Krause, told reporters.


    Another quaint notion out of Geneva...


    20194. jexster - 8/28/2007 10:11:28 PM

    So you say.
    How in the hell do you expect us to convince the IslamoFascists that we don't fight like Tejas girlie men if only the IslamoFascists have guns!


    I insist on my constitutional rights, thank you very much. You want to outlaw guns - go to Mexico and that wasteland of state with you



    20196. robertjayb - 8/28/2007 10:52:06 PM

    Cousin Gail sends a funny:

    HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK

    >> 1. Open a new file in your computer.
    >> 2. Name it " George W. Bush "
    >> 3. Send it to the trash.
    >> 4. Empty the trash.
    >> 5. Your PC will ask you,
    >> "Do you really want to get rid of
    >> " George W. Bush?"
    >> 6. Firmly Click "Yes."
    >> 7. Feel better?
    >>
    >> Tomorrow we'll do Dick Cheney...


    20197. jexster - 8/28/2007 11:15:17 PM

    Tell ya if Pelosi opens impeachment proceedings by 9/7, Bush will dump him by the end of the month.

    And if TD thinks Ole Dickwad will find any help on Capitol Hill - fuggit about it.

    So sorry to report the Demo scandals you were praying to Allah for...no can do

    Scandal Scarred, Grand Old Pigpile Wonders 'What next'

    Party Platform Committee Considers 'I am not gay' for 2008 Slogan






    20198. jexster - 8/29/2007 10:35:04 AM

    Cole in Salon: The War on al-Maliki

    My Salon column for Wednesday is now available: "The war against Iraq's prime minister:"

    Sens. Hillary Clinton and Carl Levin are calling for Nouri al-Maliki's ouster as a way of attacking Bush's Iraq policy. But do they understand the consequences?


    Obviously Sen Clinton has incredibly poor judgment and overweening ignorance of the basic facts on the ground in the stateless region of Mesopotamia for the war she supported has destroyed civil society and the very nation of Iraq itself, which exists now in name only, a place on a map

    No man, and no woman, not even Sen Clinton, could lead that ruin.


    Maybe Sen Rod Ham just needs a little more seasoning. Throw the fish back in the water, catch her again in 8 years

    20199. jexster - 8/29/2007 10:54:37 AM

    "Upon being asked about his resignation by a reporter, Gonzales stated he did not recall resigning, then proceeded back to his office where he couldn't remember what he was supposed to do there."

    20200. concerned - 8/29/2007 10:57:39 AM

    Re. 20189-91 -

    He should change parties. Then he'd be an elite 'Rat instead of a scummy Pub.

    20201. jexster - 8/29/2007 11:07:32 AM

    Israel told Bush to Attack IraN not IraQ


    Bush just got confused

    or did he?


    TREASON by any other name

    sraeli officials warned the George W. Bush administration that an invasion of Iraq would be destabilizing to the region and urged the United States to instead target Iran as the primary enemy, according to former administration official Lawrence Wilkerson.

    Wilkerson, then a member of the State Department's Policy Planning Staff and later chief of staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell, recalled in an interview with IPS that the Israelis reacted immediately to indications that the Bush administration was thinking of war against Iraq. After the Israeli government picked up the first signs of that intention, Wilkerson says, "The Israelis were telling us Iraq is not the enemy – Iran is the enemy."

    20202. jexster - 8/29/2007 11:21:52 AM

    20200




    I think he should be punished..by a policeman, naked policeman

    The real question for Republicans in Washington is how low can you go, because we are approaching a level of ridiculousness,” says one Republican strategist.


    All you need is a scandal and Pelosi's history right TD????



    Who'll be next in the Grand Old Dock?

    Call you crazy again if you don't mind

    20203. jexster - 8/29/2007 11:51:39 AM

    Little Britain
    Sir Norman Fry - Public Toilet


    20204. jexster - 8/29/2007 3:02:47 PM

    Here ya go Arky..what are you waiting for?

    Huffington Post: Obama Field Organizers Plot Miracle

    20205. robertjayb - 8/29/2007 4:34:39 PM

    He did what?

    20206. jexster - 8/29/2007 5:17:55 PM

    They eat their own


    McCain and Stormin Norman Coleman have called on Craig to resign


    "Do the crime, can't do time in the USS"


    20207. jexster - 8/29/2007 5:26:44 PM

    Karl Your Kar is Ready



    Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove's car, Wednesday, Aug. 29, 2007, after someone wrapped the car in plastic wrap and put eagles and stickers, including one with I love Obama on it. The car was parked on White House grounds.

    20208. arkymalarky - 8/29/2007 6:01:19 PM

    'splain the picture, Robert!

    20209. jexster - 8/29/2007 6:03:41 PM

    GOP Forces Senator Wide Stance to Resign Posts


    TD get that cat out of your ass!

    No justice
    No fucking peace


    FREE SENATOR PETER PUMPER!!


    20210. robertjayb - 8/29/2007 6:15:25 PM

    Craig volunteered unkind remarks during Clinton's Monica troubles. Now the big dog reacts to Craig's toilet adventure.

    20211. arkymalarky - 8/29/2007 6:19:24 PM

    AAAAAAAhhh!

    20212. concerned - 8/29/2007 6:20:59 PM

    Maybe Craig'll switch parties and improve the average ethical level of both.

    20213. jexster - 8/29/2007 6:21:11 PM

    And Robert You don't look much like Bevo to me

    20214. jexster - 8/29/2007 6:32:07 PM

    20212


    You mean the democrats to take this freak too?!?!??!

    I don't think so


    Rudy 3 Pussies You DA MAN!

    20215. jexster - 8/29/2007 8:11:46 PM

    You may not think much is happening but that's because you live here. Laura and I dont...

    Surprise
    Surprise

    Grand Old PigPile Sleazebag and Iraqi Lobbyist Haley Barbour gets TWICE as much for Mississippi as NOLA



    EDITORIAL: Treat us fairly, Mr. President
    Times Picayune 08/29/2007


    Nobody wants to have to compete for disaster relief. But that is what Louisianians have had to do in the two years since Hurricane Katrina struck.

    20216. jexster - 8/29/2007 8:32:07 PM

    Robert posted the item Bush asks for 50 Billion more for Iraq keep his Surge into Hell going until the Army has run out of troops - next year.

    Did we say he lied back in January?

    What I didn't realize and what EJ Dionne pointed out, Bush is at the same time making a huge stink of the fact that Congress dares to spend 22 billion more than Bush requested on domestic needs !


    Folks if Congress caves, as they probably will, we'll be spending $3 Billion a week in Iraq for God only knows what


    No wonder Congress is so unpopular. That's what 49 seat Senate 'majority' means

    20217. concerned - 8/29/2007 10:09:45 PM

    As far as jexster is concerned, 'Democrats' and 'Responsibility' mix like oil and water. He just admitted it.

    20218. concerned - 8/29/2007 10:13:04 PM

    Folks if Congress caves, as they probably will, we'll be spending $3 Billion a week in Iraq for God only knows what

    Now the moron has a God complex. More like Allah Oops.

    20219. concerned - 8/29/2007 10:36:46 PM

    Congress caving? Looks like the 'Rats don't have game. Good-bye Peloser IQ. Hell-oo Peloser shoe size.

    20220. jexster - 8/29/2007 11:33:31 PM

    GOP Bathroom Etiquette Breakdown


    20221. jexster - 8/29/2007 11:36:38 PM

    20219 - Still Crazy After All These Years

    Call me crazy but I think the Republicans will retain control of both houses of Congress
    Concerned, Election night not 2 hours before....

    20222. concerned - 8/29/2007 11:45:55 PM

    Not as crazy as the ones who are suffering voters' remorse now, jexster.

    20223. concerned - 8/29/2007 11:49:13 PM

    It takes something special for a Congress to have an approval rating in the bottom quartile among the majority party electorate after only six months in office.

    Something like terminal incompetence.

    20224. wonkers2 - 8/30/2007 6:41:15 AM

    Too many GOP incompetents, hypocrites, pedophiles and crooks.

    20225. robertjayb - 8/30/2007 10:14:14 AM

    Our own cellar door has a LATimes op-ed on Senator Craig's situation: Our (not so) private Idahos..

    Gentle reader, by now you've probably read more than you ever nightmared you'd want to know about the latest Republican gay-sex scandal. The revelation that Idaho Sen. Larry Craig was caught allegedly trolling for sex in a Minnesota airport men's room in June comes on the heels of Florida state Rep. Robert Allen's July restroom arrest, making it reasonable to suspect that yet another GOP bathroom bust may burst forth by the time this Op-Ed article goes to press.

    But barring further white-tiled tragedy, the all-too-obvious question remains, "What in the Sam Hill is going on here?" The answer rests on what can safely be described as bipartisan grounds.

    20226. jexster - 8/30/2007 11:33:43 AM

    Deja vu all over again Wonkler


    Clinton Under Another Donor Cloud


    Democratic death wish

    But at least it gives me my FOURTH Rod Ham Experience Check List Item.


    No one it seems bothers to ask the question, in the midst of Rod Ham's WMD against Obama's "lack of experience", just what experience Billary has that would prepare her for the Ovary Orifice.

    So I'm working on a list. Feel free to join in

    1. Sponsor the Great Health Care Debacle 1993, where HRC blew the first chance since 1948 for major health care reform

    2. Co-Sponsor the GOP Takeover of Congress 1994-2006

    3. Co-Sponsor the Greatest Strategic Disaster in US History

    4. Towel matron, Lincoln bedroom bathroom

    Being First Lady doesn't qualify you to be president - Zbig



    Neither does 1-4 above

    20227. jexster - 8/30/2007 12:08:32 PM

    Is Cheney Plotting September Attack on Iran?

    20228. jexster - 8/30/2007 12:11:49 PM

    Worst Congress Ever

    Rank and File Democrats Furious That More Bush Isn't Burnt



    Sing along TD!

    20229. jexster - 8/30/2007 12:48:04 PM

    The PetRaeus Punt

    Pentagon Won't Make Recommendation on "Surge" BushWar Escalation

    20230. jexster - 8/30/2007 12:53:26 PM

    BushKill - 30,000 Casualties

    3800 dead
    27,000 wounded

    20231. jexster - 8/30/2007 1:00:01 PM

    Three Down, Fifteen Benchmarks to Go
    Pelosi Slams Bush Over GAO Findings


    No wonder PetRaeus finds discretion the better part of PR! That and the fact that Bush has thoroughly decimated the Army

    20232. jexster - 8/30/2007 1:01:06 PM

    TD...look for the GrandOldPigpile in the toilet bowl

    20233. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/30/2007 1:43:50 PM

    Historical Quote of the Day:

    "A moment I've been dreading. George brought his ne're-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work."

    -- Ronald Reagan in his recently published diaries, May 17, 1986.

    20234. jexster - 8/30/2007 3:07:31 PM

    Olbermann - Craig Arrest Reenactment
    I carry a badge


    The Grand Old Preverts

    20235. jexster - 8/30/2007 3:13:48 PM

    Wizzer has the Mote Catch of the Millenium

    20236. robertjayb - 8/30/2007 4:05:28 PM

    MSNBC is airing taped police interview with Craig.

    20237. robertjayb - 8/30/2007 4:13:07 PM

    Fred Thompson will announce his run for prez on Sept. 6, says MSNBC.

    20238. jexster - 8/30/2007 4:53:28 PM

    "I am just real disappointed. I even voted for you"


    That's life in the GOP Toilet Bowl

    20239. jexster - 8/30/2007 4:56:00 PM

    20240. jexster - 8/30/2007 5:10:55 PM

    Sorry Wiz, gotta take back your award


    The Reagan Quote is BOGUS

    20241. jexster - 8/30/2007 8:05:45 PM

    Grand Old Perverts

    Senator PeterPumper's Interview Tape


    I can't believe they hauled out the Texas cockroach to prattle on about Alcee Hastings and Barney Fag on Hardball.


    Mathews took the Raid to him

    20242. jexster - 8/30/2007 8:26:14 PM

    He's so afraid of Gates, Bush didn't inform him of the 50 billion funding supplemental for IraQ.

    Gates had to read about it in the paper - according to Brit Hume of Faux News

    All's well in the Fuehrer Bunker

    20243. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/30/2007 8:30:45 PM

    Sorry Jex, but it was sent to me by a usually reliable source, so I believed it too.

    It is so utterly plausible, however--other than the fact that Ronnie Raggin' was slightly less of a surrogate-dunderhead-for-the rich as W.

    20244. jexster - 8/30/2007 9:02:05 PM

    I STILL believe it!! If he didn't say it, he was thinkin it

    20245. jexster - 8/30/2007 11:02:16 PM

    IraQ Corruption Probe Widens

    20246. jexster - 8/30/2007 11:07:47 PM

    Worse Congress Ever!

    TD's been "waiting for Demo scandals"
    TD's been waiting for Godot

    The GOPigpile Opens Muck Gap

    20247. concerned - 8/31/2007 1:34:01 AM

    "utterly plausible"

    ...if you're a deranged LW nutcase, that is.

    20248. concerned - 8/31/2007 1:36:03 AM

    "utterly plausible"

    ...if you're a deranged LW nutcase, that is.

    20249. concerned - 8/31/2007 1:38:18 AM

    Re. 20246 -

    How does a Republican striking a blow for Democrat 'rights' translate into a scandal in your book?

    20250. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/31/2007 7:44:25 AM






    20251. jexster - 8/31/2007 10:15:54 AM

    Grim and Grimmer for Dumb and Dumber

    WASHINGTON - President Bush is expected to hear deep concerns Friday from top Pentagon generals about continuing the military buildup in Iraq, as yet another grim independent report emerges finding lack of progress in the conflict



    A Republican "striking a blow for democratic rights" is a RINO

    20252. jexster - 8/31/2007 10:16:24 AM

    Link

    20253. jexster - 8/31/2007 10:19:07 AM

    hehehehehe

    BAGHDAD (AFP) - A US Air Force C-130 aircraft carrying a congressional delegation had come under surface-to-air fire as it departed from Baghdad airport a day ago, the US military announced Friday.

    "The aircrew dispensed flares as a defensive countermeasure and conducted standard evasive maneuvers," the military said, adding the aircraft, crew and passengers safely completed their flight to Washington on Thursday.

    20254. jexster - 8/31/2007 11:06:10 AM

    Rove couldn't get up to deliver a farewell speech to the final staff meeting today because he was crying like a bitch

    20255. jexster - 8/31/2007 11:15:28 AM

    Larry Craig MOving to Iowa

    DES MOINES, Iowa - Less than two hours after a judge struck down Iowa's decade-old gay marriage ban, two Des Moines men applied for a marriage license as bride and groom, and county officials said they expected to see more same-sex couples doing the same on Friday.

    20256. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 8/31/2007 11:22:12 AM

    August 31, 2007
    Op-Ed Columnist
    Katrina All the Time

    By PAUL KRUGMAN
    Two years ago today, Americans watched in horror as a great city drowned, and wondered what had happened to their country. Where was FEMA? Where was the National Guard? Why wasn’t the government of the world’s richest, most powerful nation coming to the aid of its own citizens?

    What we mostly saw on TV was the nightmarish scene at the Superdome, but things were even worse at the New Orleans convention center, where thousands were stranded without food or water. The levees were breached Monday morning — but as late as Thursday evening, The Washington Post reported, the convention center “still had no visible government presence,” while “corpses lay out in the open among wailing babies and other refugees.”

    Meanwhile, federal officials were oblivious. “We are extremely pleased with the response that every element of the federal government, all of our federal partners, have made to this terrible tragedy,” declared Michael Chertoff, the secretary for Homeland Security, on Wednesday. When asked the next day about the situation at the convention center, he dismissed the reports as “a rumor” or “someone’s anecdotal version.”

    Today, much of the Gulf Coast remains in ruins. Less than half the federal money set aside for rebuilding, as opposed to emergency relief, has actually been spent, in part because the Bush administration refused to waive the requirement that local governments put up matching funds for recovery projects — an impossible burden for communities whose tax bases have literally been washed away.

    On the other hand, generous investment tax breaks, supposedly designed to spur recovery in the disaster area, have been used to build luxury condominiums near the University of Alabama’s football stadium in Tuscaloosa, 200 miles inland.

    But why should we be surprised by any of this? The Bush administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina — the mixture of neglect of those in need, obliviousness to their plight, and self-congratulation in the face of abject failure — has become standard operating procedure. These days, it’s Katrina all the time.

    Consider the White House reaction to new Census data on income, poverty and health insurance. By any normal standard, this week’s report was a devastating indictment of the administration’s policies. After all, last year the administration insisted that the economy was booming — and whined that it wasn’t getting enough credit. What the data show, however, is that 2006, while a good year for the wealthy, brought only a slight decline in the poverty rate and a modest rise in median income, with most Americans still considerably worse off than they were before President Bush took office.

    Most disturbing of all, the number of Americans without health insurance jumped. At this point, there are 47 million uninsured people in this country, 8.5 million more than there were in 2000. Mr. Bush may think that being uninsured is no big deal — “you just go to an emergency room” — but the reality is that if you’re uninsured every illness is a catastrophe, your own private Katrina.

    Yet the White House press release on the report declared that President Bush was “pleased” with the new numbers. Heckuva job, economy!

    Mr. Bush’s only concession that something might be amiss was to say that “challenges remain in reducing the number of uninsured Americans” — a statement reminiscent of Emperor Hirohito’s famous admission, in his surrender broadcast, that “the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan’s advantage.” And Mr. Bush’s solution — more tax cuts, of course — has about as much relevance to the real needs of the uninsured as subsidies for luxury condos in Tuscaloosa have to the needs of New Orleans’s Ninth Ward.

    The question is whether any of this will change when Mr. Bush leaves office.

    There’s a powerful political faction in this country that’s determined to draw exactly the wrong lesson from the Katrina debacle — namely, that the government always fails when it attempts to help people in need, so it shouldn’t even try. “I don’t want the people who ran the Katrina cleanup to manage our health care system,” says Mitt Romney, as if the Bush administration’s practice of appointing incompetent cronies to key positions and refusing to hold them accountable no matter how badly they perform — did I mention that Mr. Chertoff still has his job? — were the way government always works.

    And I’m not sure that faction is losing the argument. The thing about conservative governance is that it can succeed by failing: when conservative politicians mess up, they foster a cynicism about government that may actually help their cause.

    Future historians will, without doubt, see Katrina as a turning point. The question is whether it will be seen as the moment when America remembered the importance of good government, or the moment when neglect and obliviousness to the needs of others became the new American way.

    20257. jexster - 8/31/2007 11:39:48 AM

    They run against the government so they can run it, ruin it and run against it again



    If this weren't the United States of Amnesia, these hucksters would have real jobs

    20258. jexster - 8/31/2007 12:46:47 PM

    I got to get to NYC post-haste

    Eric I'm coming!

    Foot Tapping Ritual Common in Sex Stings
    TPM dispatched its interns to every public bathroom in the Port Authority to investigate the story further. (TPM)


    20259. jexster - 8/31/2007 1:12:38 PM

    Dumb as a Sack of Hammers

    In his speech Tuesday to the American Legion President Bush proclaimed, "For all those who ask whether the fight in Iraq is worth it, imagine an Iraq where militia groups backed by Iran control large parts of the country." That doesn't take a vivid imagination, however - the reality on the ground is that Iran-backed militias and their political allies already control large parts of the country. And as this week's violence in Karbala demonstrates, those militias are fighting each other for supremacy as U.S. and British influence wanes.

    20260. jexster - 8/31/2007 1:32:56 PM

    So why should anyone believe anything he now says about Iraq?


    I dunno TD, Why?




    To be fair, I didn't realize that, in addition to gay marriages in Iowa, there is also an epidemic of flag burning sweeping the nation. Next thing you know, Republicans will be doing the nasty with billy goats

    20261. concerned - 8/31/2007 1:39:10 PM

    Re. 20256 -

    Krugman giving more proof that he's an idiot. Why doesn't he ask why there was almost no effort by the City of N'awlins or the State of Lousyanna to help their own citizens, unless you count whining about the Federal Government not stepping in as fast as these lazy negligent asses would prefer? Oh, that's right! Only Republicans are actually responsible for anything, because Democrats can't do shit anyway.

    Krugman isn't much of an economist if he can't do a better job of explaining the options that state and local governments have for raising matching funds. Not all money has to be raised on the spur of the moment by imposing new taxes for fuck sakes. And 'washed away' - such bullshit.

    20262. jexster - 8/31/2007 1:53:09 PM

    Worst Congress Ever - World's Greatest Deliberative Body





    At least he fights for "democratic rights"!


    Toilet Terrorist Denounced FBI for Raiding Ted Stevens

    20263. jexster - 8/31/2007 1:54:06 PM

    20261 - TD of course bloviates...no evidence..no facts but why bother, facts are the last thing Republicans care about

    20264. jexster - 8/31/2007 1:58:33 PM

    Case in point...they tell us the surge is working because sectarian attacks are down

    Sounds good. Just like Why doesn't he ask why there was almost no effort by the City of N'awlins or the State of Lousyanna to help their own citizens

    Sounds good. Dump on Louisiana (a good red state!)..Dump on the niggers..always a good strategy

    But then facts, they're pesky things aren't they

    Fuzzy Math: Stats Scrambled in DOD Iraq Reports
    BushOgon fucks with Figures

    20265. jexster - 8/31/2007 2:03:52 PM

    Grand Old Toilet politics

    A year later, Iraq is still in flames, and your president's administration is safely focused on reclaiming $485 million in aid money from a bunch of toothless black survivors of Hurricane Katrina.

    According to the most reliable estimates, we have doled out more than $500 billion for the war, as well as $44 billion for the Iraqi reconstruction effort. And what did America's contractors give us for that money? They built big steaming shit piles, set brand-new trucks on fire, drove back and forth across the desert for no reason at all and dumped bags of nails in ditches. For the most part, nobody at home cared, because war on some level is always a waste. But what happened in Iraq went beyond inefficiency, beyond fraud even. This was about the business of government being corrupted by the profit motive to such an extraordinary degree that now we all have to wonder how we will ever be able to depend on the state to do its job in the future. If catastrophic failure is worth billions, where's the incentive to deliver success? There's no profit in patriotism, no cost-plus angle on common decency. Sixty years after America liberated Europe, those are just words, and words don't pay the bills.


    Weapons of Mass Distraction - a time honored tactic of the Grand Old Pigpile


    Toilet politics



    20266. robertjayb - 8/31/2007 2:10:25 PM

    John Warner will not run for another senate term. (CNN)

    20267. jexster - 8/31/2007 2:21:42 PM

    Worse Congress ever may well get one Senate seat better

    20268. jexster - 8/31/2007 2:46:31 PM

    20261

    Justice Dept. Probing Whether Gonzales Lied



    Maybe the dumb nigrahs of N'walins should have hired that Fat Scumsucker Haley Barbour.

    IraQ Crook and CIA Henchman Allawi did

    20269. concerned - 8/31/2007 2:47:51 PM

    Dump on the niggers..always a good strategy

    Unfortunately for you, jex all that's the 'Rat Party's department. After owning them as slaves and then destroying their family structure, they're trying to bribe them with promises of governmental bribes to assuage their guilty consciences.

    20270. concerned - 8/31/2007 2:48:37 PM

    ...governmental payouts....

    20271. concerned - 8/31/2007 3:01:23 PM

    IAC, it's very ironic that Lousiana Democrats are criticizing the Federal Government for not jumping through hoops fast enough while they themselves are sitting on their fat asses.

    20272. jexster - 8/31/2007 3:19:03 PM

    Won't even have to change the name on the office door

    The most likely Democratic contender is former Gov. Mark R. Warner, a wealthy Alexandria businessman who left office in early 2006 with unprecedented job-approval ratings. Mark Warner, who is not related to the senator, unsuccessfully challenged him in the 1996 Senate race

    20273. jexster - 8/31/2007 3:20:17 PM

    One thing among many that TD just don't get is the South


    The good ole boyz have been republicans for three decades


    Maybe in the next life when TD comes back into the TRoom Trade

    20274. jexster - 8/31/2007 3:21:04 PM

    20271

    My invite to produce facts still open

    Won't hold my breath

    20275. jexster - 8/31/2007 3:22:07 PM

    Maybe I forward message to Senator Ho House Vitter and the rest of the mostly REPUBLICAN delegation..except for NOLA of course...too black to be republican

    20276. concerned - 8/31/2007 3:24:10 PM

    Re. 20273 -

    No, they haven't. Jim Crow, KKK, Robert Byrd, slavery -

    all wholly owned subsidiaries of the 'Rat Party.

    Screwing black people over throughout history - it's what Democrats are all about.

    20277. concerned - 8/31/2007 3:27:48 PM

    AFAIC, all Democrats have a little Robert Byrd (some more than a little) in them.

    20278. jexster - 8/31/2007 3:39:50 PM

    Like I said, you don't know the South from your asshole


    The one with the cat in it

    If you're right then either all nigrahs vote republican, and white Dem (as it was in 1870!) or nigrahs are stoopid (the GOPigpile position in 2007)

    Just 130 years behind TD..you can catch up....spend some time with the Wombat in the History Thread

    20279. concerned - 8/31/2007 4:06:37 PM

    Most 'nigras', as you put it, are living the 'Rat approved lifestyle, and they have the high poverty and crime rates to prove it.

    As far as general stupidity goes, the 'Rats as a political party have a corner on that.

    20280. jexster - 8/31/2007 4:25:11 PM

    Don't worry TD. Roberts has declared the Emancipation Nigger Nation and the Solid Republican South shall rise again

    20281. jexster - 8/31/2007 4:26:21 PM

    Boy dem coloreds ain't too bright are they! I mean choosing that Democratic lifestyle of crime and drugs over the Grand Old Pigpile toilet

    20282. jexster - 8/31/2007 4:27:37 PM

    Bus h Faces Mounting Reports of Iraq Failure

    20283. jexster - 8/31/2007 4:32:21 PM

    Larry Craig and the Singing Senators of the Grand Old Pigpile




    Old Folks at Home

    20284. jexster - 8/31/2007 4:33:59 PM

    Let the Eagle Soar

    Right up TD's ass...the cat needs company

    20285. jexster - 8/31/2007 5:12:16 PM

    Don your flak jackets Hanoi John and Likud Lieberman....the Freedom Fighters have your flight number

    That C130 under surface to air fire out of Saddam International..

    Richard Shelby
    James Inoffe
    and supporting cast of Lesser Grand Old Pigpilians


    Worst congress ever would have had a major improvement


    Better luck next time Ragheads..work on your aim

    20286. robertjayb - 8/31/2007 7:51:43 PM

    Craig will quit...

    BOISE, Idaho -- Idaho Republican Sen. Larry Craig will resign from the Senate amid a furor over his arrest and guilty plea in a police sex sting in an airport men's room, Republican officials said Friday.

    Craig will announce at a news conference in Boise Saturday morning that he will resign effective Sept. 30, four state GOP officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.


    (AP)

    20287. Max Macks - 8/31/2007 8:06:47 PM

    Likud lIEBERMAN ! how accurate

    20288. jexster - 8/31/2007 9:48:19 PM

    How George Bush Is Destroying the US Army
    We have a Congress that has no idea what it is doing
    Sargent with Apache Company, Baghdad


    We used to see reports like this nightly during the Vietnam War. This is the first such I have seen on US network news - a report with commentary from two military psychologists on the NewsHour, narrated by a BRIT - from the Guardian UK which ran a lengthy Sunday article on the burnt out US military.

    We can't come down. We never have time to rest

    20289. jexster - 8/31/2007 10:10:33 PM

    20290. jexster - 9/1/2007 12:23:27 AM

    20291. jexster - 9/1/2007 12:32:05 AM

    Not More Grand Old Preversions!

    Rudy "Three Pussies" enters the fray with a Florida campaign official - Rudy's Faggot Serial Groper

    20292. jexster - 9/1/2007 12:33:04 AM

    Sure you aren't a peterpumper too TD?

    We know the Ace of Spades is

    The next high heel to drop????

    20293. robertjayb - 9/1/2007 2:20:16 PM

    Less than meets the eye to *'s housing/credit scheme...

    WASHINGTON — President Bush on Friday unveiled his plan to address homeowners who face foreclosure in the nation's credit crunch and housing slump.

    The plan was announced days before Congress returns from its August recess with housing issues high on its agenda. The proposals, however, duplicate efforts already under way by Congress and other federal agencies, would help at most 21 percent of the homeowners facing foreclosures and would do little to help areas in which inflated real estate prices are a problem.


    20294. jexster - 9/1/2007 5:47:17 PM

    Lincoln Day Dinner
    Gov Ahnold Schwarzenegger and the Grand Old Perversts of Califoria Invite YOU




    San Francisco International Airport
    All Terminals
    Restrooms Reserved

    RSVP
    1-800-TOI-LETU

    20295. jexster - 9/1/2007 11:06:54 PM

    Red State Update: Concerned on the Toilet


    20296. robertjayb - 9/1/2007 11:17:24 PM

    Hunter tops Texas straw poll...

    FORT WORTH, Texas (Reuters) - Republican presidential hopeful Duncan Hunter scored a symbolic victory on Saturday, winning a low-turnout Texas straw poll that drew only a few second-tier candidates in the White House race.

    Hunter, a California congressman, whose big issues are border security and strong national defense, took about 41 percent of the 1,300 votes cast.

    Former Tennessee senator and actor Fred Thompson, who will formally launch his White House run next week, came second with about 20 percent of the vote. Texas Congressman Ron Paul was third with just under 17 percent of the vote.


    20297. jexster - 9/1/2007 11:29:40 PM

    “During the week of October 22-26, 2007, the nation will be rocked by the biggest conservative campus protest ever – Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, a wake-up call for Americans on 200 university and college campuses.” The event will confront the two “Big Lies of the political left:” that “George Bush created the war on terror and that Global Warming is a greater danger to Americans than the terrorist threat.”

    20298. jexster - 9/1/2007 11:36:53 PM

    Fatally Flawed

    Gloucester Eating Surrender Monkeys
    Second British General Rips BushWar Strategery

    20299. jexster - 9/2/2007 11:30:52 AM

    Worst Congress Ever

    GOP Faces Growing Peril In 2008 Races

    Senate Prospects Dimming





    TD, I've reserved a seat for you at next year's Lincoln Day Dinner





    and he's still crazy after all these years

    20300. jexster - 9/2/2007 11:32:26 AM

    "It's always darkest right before you get clobbered over the head with a pipe wrench. But then it actually does get darker," said a GOP pollster who insisted on anonymity in order to speak candidly.

    20301. jexster - 9/3/2007 5:13:29 PM

    I hear the Bush is declaring victory..and not a minute too soon either

    IraQ No Longer Exists

    20302. jexster - 9/3/2007 10:38:24 PM

    Life in the Pigpile TD...


    Within G.O.P., Months of Stumping Fail to Impress



    For Democrats, Primary Field Gives Confidence

    20303. jexster - 9/4/2007 10:50:35 AM

    Dora Market: PetRaeus's Potemkin Village

    20304. robertjayb - 9/4/2007 11:34:04 AM

    Good catch, jexster. I hope Sgt. Campbell wasn't planning on a long military career. Truth to power is not real welcome in bushieville.

    20305. concerned - 9/4/2007 12:41:37 PM

    Re. 20301 -

    Allowing his premise, jexster would have also denied the Holy Roman Empire on the strength of the same argument, but it didn't wash then and it doesn't wash now in Iraq.

    Since there's only one entity that calls itself the Iraqi government, Iraq does indeed still exist.

    20306. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/4/2007 12:47:14 PM

    Arcane contorted logic . . . or senility? You decide!


    20307. jexster - 9/4/2007 12:51:50 PM

    Benchmarks? We Don't Need No Stinkin Benchmarks!

    20308. jexster - 9/4/2007 12:52:24 PM

    Wizzer..that's disgusting

    20309. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/4/2007 12:56:06 PM

    Really?

    20310. jexster - 9/4/2007 2:04:19 PM

    But not so disgusting as this...

    John Yoo - Godsend to Bush Administration Officials Fearful of War Crimes Prosecutions

    20311. jexster - 9/4/2007 2:07:56 PM

    Goldsmith Sings Like a Canary

    After a bit of silence, Goldsmith told me, Gonzales thanked Ashcroft, and he and Card walked out of the room. “At that moment,” Goldsmith recalled, “Mrs. Ashcroft, who obviously couldn’t believe what she saw happening to her sick husband, looked at Gonzales and Card as they walked out of the room and stuck her tongue out at them. She had no idea what we were discussing, but this sweet-looking woman sticking out her tongue was the ultimate expression of disapproval. It captured the feeling in the room perfectly.”

    20312. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/4/2007 3:51:24 PM

    When the fuck are the Dems going to wake up and impeach those bastard despots?

    20313. concerned - 9/4/2007 4:12:50 PM

    I'd really like to see those Pelosers try!

    20314. jexster - 9/4/2007 4:51:17 PM

    That makes 3 of us!

    20315. jexster - 9/4/2007 4:53:02 PM










    20316. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/4/2007 5:22:06 PM

    Go find your wallet, connie . . . after you watch this . . .



    20317. jexster - 9/4/2007 5:50:42 PM

    How much for the boy Wiz?

    20318. concerned - 9/4/2007 5:59:53 PM

    Coalition of nuns calls for impeaching Bush and Cheney

    NOW I know what Whacko of Wooziness is. A nun!



    20319. judithathome - 9/4/2007 6:13:45 PM

    Jex, that kid needs a good night's sleep...those bags under his eyes are disturbing.

    20320. jexster - 9/4/2007 6:22:59 PM

    I will restore him

    Just like George W. restored the troops



    Dana Perino - Comfort Girl

    20321. jexster - 9/4/2007 6:23:30 PM

    I think TD's got something against both man and GOD

    20322. jexster - 9/4/2007 6:25:26 PM

    He may just be a kid today but in 6-7 years he be bad, and he be legal

    20323. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/4/2007 7:44:28 PM

    Rudy was right, 30 seconds is not enough time to cover (up) all of his screw-ups . . .

    20324. jexster - 9/4/2007 7:59:41 PM

    That Crawford Village idiot not only lied when he said he didn't know how it came to be that Bremmer disbanded the Iraqi army, he apparently told his prequel biographer that he couldn't wait to get out of office and make tons of money from speeches



    Goes down well with the poor soldiers eating sand in Iraq

    20325. jexster - 9/4/2007 8:16:03 PM









    20326. robertjayb - 9/4/2007 9:12:35 PM

    He's baaaack! Maybe.

    BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- Sen. Larry Craig is reconsidering his decision to resign after his arrest in a Minnesota airport sex sting and may still fight for his Senate seat, his spokesman said Tuesday evening.

    ''It's not such a foregone conclusion anymore, that the only thing he could do was resign,'' said Sidney Smith, Craig's spokesman in Idaho's capital.


    Methinks old Larry is just knee-deep in dumb.

    Don't do it, Larry. You've been the nation's pathetic laughing-stock for a week, ten days now.
    Why try to extend the disgrace? Unless, of course, you are a masochist...

    20327. robertjayb - 9/4/2007 9:26:34 PM

    Another stupid war that should be shut down...(Neal Peirce)

    Thirty-eight million arrests, most for simple possession. Lives ruined, families disrupted. America turned into the most prison-happy nation on the face of the Earth.

    Illegal rewards incentivizing shooting fields in inner-city neighborhoods — enough bloodshed to appall even an Al Capone. Over $1 trillion in taxpayer outlays.

    Thirty-six years after President Richard Nixon inaugurated this country's misbegotten "war on drugs," worldwide narcotics markets are booming, drug ring profits are higher than ever, and drugs cost less than ever on the street.

    Our "war" is a miserable, incredibly costly failure.

    20328. jexster - 9/4/2007 10:50:44 PM

    It was the White House and the Iraqi government, not Congress, that first proposed the benchmarks for Iraq that are now producing failing grades, a provenance that raises questions about why the administration is declaring now that the government’s performance is not the best measure of change.

    OOOPS time to change the grading scale. That's how he got through Yale.


    Boolah boolah

    20329. jexster - 9/4/2007 11:16:44 PM

    Larry ain't goin quietly to the Grand Old Pigpilian lynchin. Specter's got his back. So does Tom DeLay


    I suggest they redo the t-rooms on Capitol Hill


    Craig Proof

    20330. thoughtful - 9/5/2007 12:14:05 PM

    Yesterday, froomkin pointed out this excellent piece by Greenwald at salon, including:

    Goldsmith argued continuously about his conclusion with Addington, and during the course of those arguments, this is what happened:

    [Goldsmith] shared the White House's concern that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act might prevent wiretaps on international calls involving terrorists. But Goldsmith deplored the way the White House tried to fix the problem, which was highly contemptuous of Congress and the courts. "We're one bomb away from getting rid of that obnoxious [FISA] court," Goldsmith recalls Addington telling him in February 2004.

    Their goal all along was to "get rid of the obnoxious FISA court" entirely, so that they could freely eavesdrop on whomever they wanted with no warrants or oversight of any kind. And here is Dick Cheney's top aide, drooling with anticipation at the prospect of another terrorist attack so that they could seize this power without challenge. Addington views the Next Terrorist Attack as the golden opportunity to seize yet more power. Sitting around the White House dreaming of all the great new powers they will have once the new terrorist attack occurs -- as Addington was doing -- is nothing short of deranged.

    20331. thoughtful - 9/5/2007 12:23:05 PM

    Froomkin also highlighted this:

    "Draper pressed Bush to explain why, if he wanted to maintain the army, his chief administrator for Iraq, L. Paul Bremer III, issued an order in May 2003 disbanding the 400,000-strong army without pay.

    "'Yeah, I can't remember; I'm sure I said, 'This is the policy, what happened?' ' Bush said, adding: 'Again, Hadley's got notes on all this stuff' -- a reference to national security advisor Stephen J. Hadley."

    James Fallows blogs for the Atlantic about Bush's "magical combination of certainty and lack of curiosity": "Think about this. The dissolution of the Iraq military is one of the six most-criticized and most-often-discussed aspects of the Administration's entire approach to Iraq. (Others: the decision to invade at all; the assessment of WMD; the size of the initial invasion-and-occupation force; the decision not to stop the looting of Baghdad; and the operation of Abu Ghraib.) And the President who has staked the fortunes of his Administration, his party, his place in history, and (come to think of it ) his nation on the success of his Iraq policy cannot remember and even now cannot be bothered to find out how the decision was made."

    20332. thoughtful - 9/5/2007 12:23:23 PM

    Only one word for it....bankrupt.

    20333. robertjayb - 9/5/2007 12:26:36 PM

    Senator Johnson is back...

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- South Dakota Sen. Tim Johnson returned to the Senate on Wednesday physically weaker but saying he anticipates running for re-election next year.

    Johnson, a Democrat, has been out since suffering a life-threatening brain hemorrhage nine months ago. The effects of the hemorrhage are clear -- he uses a scooter to get around and his words are slow and slurred.

    But his mind appears sharp, and he gave every indication of wanting to stay.

    ''It feels good and I'm ready to go,'' he said after returning to his office.


    20334. jexster - 9/5/2007 12:34:42 PM

    Glenn Greenwald..I'm a big fan

    20335. jexster - 9/5/2007 5:07:58 PM

    George Who?

    GOP tries rebranding to win back voters

    For Republicans today, live coverage of Bush in their district is more often something to avoid than seek.

    20336. jexster - 9/5/2007 6:44:47 PM

    Have to say after listenining to the talking heads breathlessly claim that McConnell was minutes away from "firing up the bus and running over Craig one more time", the man has a point!






    Blow buddies?

    20337. judithathome - 9/5/2007 7:00:26 PM

    God, it just keeps getting more and more bizarre....

    20338. jexster - 9/5/2007 7:02:50 PM

    I'm having a harder and harder time figuring what's up with Republicans - why they stick cats and wallets up their asses; molest young boys and cruise public bathrooms

    TD any thoughts?

    20339. robertjayb - 9/6/2007 12:40:33 AM

    Spine transplants urgently needed...

    WASHINGTON, Sept. 5 — With a mixed picture emerging about progress in Iraq, Senate Democratic leaders are showing a new openness to compromise as they try to attract Republican support for forcing at least modest troop withdrawals in the coming months.

    After short-circuiting consideration of votes on some bipartisan proposals on Iraq before the August break, senior Democrats now say they are willing to rethink their push to establish a withdrawal deadline of next spring if doing so will attract the 60 Senate votes needed to prevail.

    Senator Carl Levin, Democrat of Michigan, said, “If we have to make the spring part a goal, rather than something that is binding, and if that is able to produce some additional votes to get us over the filibuster, my own inclination would be to consider that.”

    .................................................

    "With a mixed picture emerging about progress in Iraq..."

    Jeezaleezus! What's emerging is a carefully orchestrated con fronted by New Jesus, General Petraeus. He's a counterinsurgency guy. This is the sort of scams COIN people conduct.

    20340. concerned - 9/6/2007 1:14:51 AM

    How predictable from the Left. Don't like the message? Attack the messenger.

    20341. judithathome - 9/6/2007 10:06:37 AM

    Well, the message just might be false...and if it's not rosy enough, they change it to read that way. We know this from past experience.

    Just because YOU fall for it doesn't make it true.

    20342. jexster - 9/6/2007 11:00:29 AM

    Iraq By the Numbers begins with a ringing call for "more of the same" from Lindsay Graham

    20343. jexster - 9/6/2007 11:13:22 AM

    Well wowee zowee Bush is lying again

    Experts Doubt Drop In Violence in Iraq
    Military Statistics Called Into Question

    20344. jexster - 9/6/2007 3:16:40 PM

    20345. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/6/2007 9:12:42 PM

    "AS DEMOCRACY IS PERFECTED, THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT REPRESENTS, MORE AND MORE CLOSELY, THE INNER SOUL OF THE PEOPLE. ON SOME GREAT AND GLORIOUS DAY, THE PLAIN FOLKS OF THE LAND WILL REACH THEIR HEART'S DESIRE AT LAST, AND THE WHITE HOUSE WILL BE ADORNED BY A DOWNRIGHT MORON." - Mark Twain

    20346. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/6/2007 9:44:52 PM

    Sorry, that quote is H. L. Mencken's; not Twain.

    20347. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/6/2007 9:58:28 PM

    I had Twain on my brain.

    20348. jexster - 9/6/2007 11:18:47 PM

    From the Grand Old Pigpile

    Another North Carolina Republican Honcho Headed for the Big House


    Bet the toilet sex can't be beat

    20349. robertjayb - 9/7/2007 12:08:11 AM

    Paul Krugman predicts dem response to "Petraeus" report...

    Here’s what will definitely happen when Gen. David Petraeus testifies before Congress next week: he’ll assert that the surge has reduced violence in Iraq — as long as you don’t count Sunnis killed by Sunnis, Shiites killed by Shiites, Iraqis killed by car bombs and people shot in the front of the head.

    Here’s what I’m afraid will happen: Democrats will look at Gen. Petraeus’s uniform and medals and fall into their usual cringe. They won’t ask hard questions out of fear that someone might accuse them of attacking the military. After the testimony, they’ll desperately try to get Republicans to agree to a resolution that politely asks President Bush to maybe, possibly, withdraw some troops, if he feels like it.

    20350. concerned - 9/7/2007 12:13:15 AM

    Tribalism and religion - an often deadly mix.

    20351. jexster - 9/7/2007 6:54:56 AM

    4 Twain Brained

    The War Prayer


    20352. jexster - 9/7/2007 6:56:22 AM

    20349..

    And Shillary will that very day tell us that she will end the war she helped start

    20353. jexster - 9/7/2007 6:58:30 AM

    Colored Man Cometh

    Join Barack Obama in San Francisco
    September 7 | San Francisco, CA!

    20354. jexster - 9/7/2007 11:01:40 AM

    Wonder why the greatest military the world has ever seen lost to a bunch rag heads with AK47's and pipe bombs?


    SYDNEY, Australia - President Bush had a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day at the Sydney Opera House.



    He'd only reached the third sentence of Friday's speech to business leaders, on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum, when he committed his first gaffe.

    "Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit," Bush said to Australian Prime Minister John Howard.

    Oops. That would be APEC, the annual meeting of leaders from 21 Pacific Rim nations, not OPEC, the cartel of 12 major oil producers.

    Bush quickly corrected himself. "APEC summit," he said forcefully, joking that Howard had invited him to the OPEC summit next year (for the record, an impossibility, since neither Australia nor the U.S. are OPEC members).

    The president's next goof went uncorrected — by him anyway. Talking about Howard's visit to Iraq last year to thank his country's soldiers serving there, Bush called them "Austrian troops."

    That one was fixed for him. Though tapes of the speech clearly show Bush saying "Austrian," the official text released by the White House switched it to "Australian."

    Then, speech done, Bush confidently headed out — the wrong way.

    20355. judithathome - 9/7/2007 12:32:53 PM

    REPORT? We Don't Need No Stinking Report!

    20356. jexster - 9/7/2007 12:56:01 PM

    Robert's right. The Dems are gonna cave. Shumer et al see that the GOP has toilet problems and 22 of 34 Senate Toilet seats up next year. They're rightly confident of holding the house no matter what and will make like marmots in the Senate.

    Thanks Hillary....Took you four years to figure out you'd been screwed now we all are.

    20357. jexster - 9/7/2007 12:56:56 PM

    They'd better watch out...The base won't stand for their shit and the independents maybe even more dangerous because they aren't as attached to the label....

    20358. jexster - 9/7/2007 12:57:40 PM


    Cheney's Top Aide: 'One Bomb Away' From Our Goal
    Glenn Greenwald

    20359. jexster - 9/7/2007 5:58:42 PM

    Just back from Obama's SF fundraiser - 2,000+ best political stump speech I have ever heard. Will look for video.


    He is fucking amazing. After going through his injunction to work for things that aren't easy to achieve, he quiets crowd down with a story about Greenwood SC

    Was at a dinner with SC politicians and sitting next to a state legislator. Wanted her endorsement "I'll endorse you if you go to Greenwood"

    "I musta had a glass of wine so I said sure." Next time in the state, "I drag into the hotel about 11 and my staff tells me to get up at 5:30. 'You promised to go to Greenwood'"


    "Welll Greenwood is about an hour and a half from everywhere else and I get up at 5;30 my back is hurting. I look out the window and it is pouring down rain. I go downstairs and my staff hands me the papers and one has a not too kind article on the front page. Nobody dare talk to me. I am looking mean"

    Gets to Greenwood "About 20 people there looking very damp. So I go through the line "how are you? what do you do?" when all of a sudden there's this big voice behind us..everyone looks around

    "FIRED UP! READY TO GO!"

    A little 5'2" city councilwoman known for her chants keeps it goin "FIRED UP READY TO GO!" and the crowd responds.

    "This went on for five minutes and you know what? I was fired up and I was ready to go!"

    "So what about San Francisco........."

    The end

    20360. robertjayb - 9/7/2007 6:22:30 PM

    jexster, you are a stone junkie. You really love this stuff.

    The boy can't help it.

    20361. jexster - 9/7/2007 6:28:16 PM

    I really do...Been doin it since I was 7

    Real coon asses drink politics instead of mama's milk


    It was awesome. This guy is a freak of political nature. There were 400-500 folks paying 250 bucks to eat fried chicken in plastic containers and the rest of us unwashed mob a couple thousand or so..massive media in the balcony

    Remember John Kerry? Remember Al Gore?




    If BarackObama.com doesn't post a video, some head shed heads should roll

    20362. jexster - 9/7/2007 6:58:57 PM

    NEW YORK - In a year voters say they crave fundamental political change, Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton is taking a gamble: arguing that her years of experience working within the political system make her the best candidate to change the system.


    But does her career — eight years as White House first lady, seven as senator from New York, and 12 as Arkansas first lady — offer evidence to support that claim? And will her message resonate with Democratic primary voters, who may not embrace a candidate so willing to seek accommodation?

    20363. jexster - 9/7/2007 7:04:43 PM

    Newsflash..the economy's headed for the same toilet as Iraq and Afghanistan. We sure need some of Hillary's leadership ability.

    20364. jexster - 9/7/2007 7:33:22 PM

    This didn't hurt. The event was Women For Obama. Kamela Harris the colored SF DA ..I detect her fine hand in this front page of the SF Chron today.


    I know the student for Obama from the Camp thing





    Woman for Obama

    20365. robertjayb - 9/7/2007 10:50:36 PM

    Isn't this sweet?

    WASHINGTON — When they're not bickering, once in awhile members of Congress fall in love.

    GOP Reps. Mary Bono of California and Connie Mack of Florida announced their engagement Friday after dating for two years.

    "Happy news," Cullen said. Congress returned from its summer recess this week and the couple have been informing colleagues.

    Bono, 45, was married to the late singer-turned-politician Sonny Bono, and replaced him in a special election in Congress in 1998 representing Palm Springs and other parts of inland Southern California.


    20366. jexster - 9/8/2007 3:49:00 AM

    They say we're young
    We don't know....

    20367. jexster - 9/8/2007 4:15:47 AM

    Obama asks women to risk backing him


    Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, hoping to make inroads with women voters, urged an overwhelmingly female audience on Friday to risk supporting him instead of someone "who will deliver competently more of the same."

    Obama never mentioned by name Hillary Rodham Clinton, his chief rival for the party's nomination, but he offered several shots at the New York senator's claim that she is the only candidate with the experience to lead the nation effectively.

    "There are those who tout their experience working the system in Washington. I understand that," the Illinois senator told about 3,000 die-hard Democrats at an event launching the California chapter of Women for Obama. "But the problem is, the system in Washington is not working for us."

    Obama said he would not be a perfect president but will tell people where he stands and ask what they think.

    "This campaign will be hard ... people who follow the well-worn grooves, people who will deliver competently more of the same. That's what they are counting on, that you will be too scared, that you will walk away, that this will seem too risky, this call to action," he said.

    Obama cited a lack of reform on issues ranging from health care to energy that has endured through Republican and Democratic administrations.

    "George W. has been a great advertisement for the Democratic Party, but it will take more than a change in parties in the White House to truly turn this country around," he said. "George Bush and Dick Cheney may have turned divisive politics into an art form, but they did not invent them."

    Obama promised that ending the war in Iraq would be his first act as president if it is not done before then and said that he looked forward to engaging in dialogue the leaders of nations hostile to U.S. policies.

    "It does not make us look tough to not talk to other countries. It makes us look arrogant," he said.


    20368. jexster - 9/8/2007 12:44:10 PM

    20369. jexster - 9/8/2007 12:45:24 PM

    20370. jexster - 9/8/2007 1:13:39 PM

    Ahnold: GOP Dying at the Box Office

    20371. robertjayb - 9/8/2007 1:33:56 PM

    Hagel is out...

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel, a persistent Republican critic of the Iraq war, intends to announce on Monday he will not seek a third term, according to Republican officials.

    The officials also said Hagel does not plan to run for the White House in 2008, despite earlier flirting with a candidacy.

    The decision by Hagel is the latest in a string of setbacks for minority Republicans in the Senate, who must defend 22 of the 34 seats on the ballot next fall.


    20372. jexster - 9/8/2007 1:36:00 PM

    Fred Cuts Himself a Chunk of Gobagool


    NC-Pres (R)
    Sep 6 PPP (D)
    Thompson 34%, Giuliani 16%, Romney 13%, McCain 7%


    But it's my man Huckabee-on-the-spot..challenges the Method Actor to play "Lincoln-Douglas" debate

    20373. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/8/2007 2:39:11 PM

    This is a hoot . . .

    20374. jexster - 9/8/2007 5:25:08 PM

    Obama Wows Em in SF
    LAT



    Too bad Orpah the Killer whale flopped her fat black ass all over our local coverage....

    20375. arkymalarky - 9/8/2007 5:38:39 PM

    Hey, her endorsement's going to be great for his campaign.

    And wrt Huckabee, I'm sick of MSNBC and CNN trying to push him to the front.

    20376. jexster - 9/8/2007 5:55:41 PM

    Keep her fat black ass in Santa Barbara, not stepping on OUR Obama coverage thank you very much

    20377. jexster - 9/8/2007 5:57:22 PM

    That "Vision Thing" - NOT AGAIN!

    SYDNEY (Reuters) - President George W. Bush will address a war-weary American public next week to "lay out a vision" for the U.S. role in Iraq as he tries to sell his strategy in the wake of a crucial report to Congress.

    20378. arkymalarky - 9/8/2007 6:50:17 PM

    Hey, if you want women voting for Obama, Oprah's your man!

    20379. jexster - 9/8/2007 8:19:33 PM

    Gallup poll:Obama is best gen election candidate from either party

    Even beats Huckabee and the other bitch from Hope

    20380. jexster - 9/8/2007 8:37:13 PM

    Orpah
    Killer Whale (forbes)



    20381. jexster - 9/8/2007 8:47:44 PM



    LATimes Obama's day in the sun

    Before his much-anticipated and highly exclusive fundraiser today at Oprah Winfrey's estate in Montecito, Barack Obama mingled with the masses --- or, as The Times' Tina Daunt notes, what passes for the masses in a particularly well-heeled stretch of Southern California.
    Here's Daunt's initial dispatch:
    "There was a decidedly more populist tone to Obama's first appearance of the day then would mark the A-list event hosted by Oprah. The crowd that began arriving about 10:30 a.m. at Santa Barbara City College for an address by the Democratic presidential hopeful about an hour later offered a cross-section of the hip beachside community. Overwhelmingly white, it ranged from fashionably turned out surfers to high-end bohemians. It also featured kids from the local middle school who were video-taping and live-blogging the event for the school's website.
    "By the time Obama arrived from an overnight stay in San Francisco, the crowd had grown to around 5,000 under one of those perfectly blue Santa Barbara skies. The temperature was 75 degrees and the ocean glinted under the sun, providing the kind of backdrop money can't buy --- unless, of course, you can afford property in Santa Barbara.
    "Obama surveyed the scene and quipped, 'I can tell you, city colleges in Chicago don't look like this. I wouldn't get any work done here.'
    "Then, surveying his audience, he added, 'I didn't know there were any hippies left.'
    "That got a big laugh, as did his rejoiner: 'That's cool.'
    "From there, Obama moved into his standard stump speech. He decried the war in Iraq, attacked President Bush's domestic policies and called for an increase in the national minimum wage. He earned his biggest bursts of applause denouncing the Darfur genocide and the administration's detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
    "The speech complete, Obama was whisked south to Montecito for a private lunch at the gated, beachside home of human rights activist Nancy Koppelman. There, the crush around the driveway included white-shirted campaign aides and surfers (the latter were bound for the adjacent steps that lead down to the ocean)."
    Daunt will be filing a story for our website later today and for Sunday's print edition on the gathering at Oprah's 42-acre spread.
    The fete was expected to generate about $3 million for Obama's campaign. And, as the Chicago Tribune's Christi Parsons wrote about today, it may be just the start of the talk-show diva's efforts on behalf of her favorite candidate.
    It also appears that entertainers on the East Coast don't intend to be upstaged by Hollywood types when it comes to contributing to Obama's coffers. A New York Times blog item details a Broadway bash planned for him later this month.
    -- Don Frederick





    20382. jexster - 9/8/2007 8:49:05 PM

    Guess I'm on the d-list....just another house nigger

    20383. jexster - 9/8/2007 9:00:01 PM

    Good Call Arky!

    CBS Poll - The Orpah Effect

    20384. arkymalarky - 9/8/2007 9:59:46 PM

    Kewl!

    20385. jexster - 9/9/2007 10:49:21 AM

    Uniter Not a Divider

    Surge Sparks Dissent, Infighting

    CENTCOM Commander Develops Plan for Major Cut and Run

    20386. jexster - 9/9/2007 2:02:55 PM

    Curious Georgie Plays Ring Around the Rosie - Again

    It will be all 9/11 all the time this week, as the White House yet again synchronizes its drumbeating for the Iraq war with the anniversary of an attack that had nothing to do with Iraq. Ignore that fog and focus instead on another date whose anniversary passed yesterday without notice: Sept. 8, 2002. What happened on that Sunday five years ago is the Rosetta Stone for the administration's latest scam.

    As the Iraqis Stand Down, We'll Stand Up
    By Frank Rich

    20387. jexster - 9/9/2007 6:54:46 PM




    20388. jexster - 9/9/2007 8:00:57 PM

    A Hanoi John Sampler

    [via TPM]


    20389. concerned - 9/9/2007 11:09:59 PM

    Re. 20387 -

    As opposed to your scum ilk who want Americans out of Iraq with dishonor.

    20390. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/10/2007 12:03:22 AM

    Hey Dipshit, the dishonor came when your reckless "scum ilk" ordered our military to invade Iraq without a good reason or a plan.

    Apologizing and asking the rest of the world to help fix what Bush & Company broke is the only honorable alternative at this point -- but fools like you have too much pride and hubris to admit it -- so lets kill more young kids . . .






    20391. concerned - 9/10/2007 12:17:23 AM

    Hey, Whacko of Weirdness -

    I take everything you say knowing that your ilk supported all the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century.

    20392. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/10/2007 12:42:08 AM

    The Holocaust?


    20393. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/10/2007 12:52:14 AM

    20394. concerned - 9/10/2007 1:18:40 AM

    20395. jexster - 9/10/2007 11:06:24 AM

    Are you a peter pumper?


    20396. jexster - 9/10/2007 11:07:00 AM

    McClatchy: Civilian Deaths Steady through Surge;
    August Secret Official Toll Staggering 2,890;
    Mahdi Army Continuing Ethnic Cleansing

    20397. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/10/2007 11:11:59 AM

    "Duhbya Begins With Duh!"

    20398. jexster - 9/10/2007 11:19:51 AM

    20399. jexster - 9/10/2007 11:37:59 AM

    Stop The Grand Old Pigpile Railroad Job


    Craig blames press for his plea

    20400. jexster - 9/10/2007 11:51:56 AM

    Iraqis Say Surge Is Not Working
    ABC News



    Barely a quarter of Iraqis say their security has improved in the past six months, a negative assessment of the surge in U.S. forces that reflects worsening public attitudes across a range of measures, even as authorities report some progress curtailing violence.

    Apart from a few scattered gains, a new national survey by ABC News, the BBC and the Japanese broadcaster NHK finds deepening dissatisfaction with conditions in Iraq, lower ratings for the national government and growing rejection of the U.S. role there.

    More Iraqis say security in their local area has gotten worse in the last six months than say it's gotten better, 31 percent to 24 percent, with the rest reporting no change. Far more, six in 10, say security in the country overall has worsened since the surge began, while just one in 10 sees improvement.

    More directly assessing the surge itself - a measure that necessarily includes views of the United States, which are highly negative - 65 to 70 percent of Iraqis say it's worsened rather than improved security, political stability and the pace of redevelopment alike.

    There are some improvements, but they're sparse and inconsistent. Thirty-eight percent in Anbar province, a focal point of the surge, now rate local security positively; none did so six months ago. In Baghdad fewer now describe themselves as feeling completely unsafe in their own neighborhoods - 58 percent, down from 84 percent. Yet other assessments of security in these locales have not improved, nor has the view nationally.

    Overall, 41 percent report security as their greatest personal problem, down seven points from 48 percent in March. But there's been essentially no change in the number who call it the nation's top problem (56 percent, with an additional 28 percent citing political or military issues). And there are other problems aplenty to sour the public's outlook - lack of jobs, poor power and fuel supply, poor medical services and many more.

    Big Picture

    The big picture remains bleak. Six in 10 Iraqis say their own lives are going badly, and even more, 78 percent, say things are going badly for the country overall - up 13 points from last winter. Expectations have crumbled; just 23 percent see improvement for Iraq in the year ahead, down from 40 percent last winter and 69 percent in November 2005.

    More than six in 10 now call the U.S.-led invasion of their country wrong, up from 52 percent last winter. Fifty-seven percent call violence against U.S. forces acceptable, up six points. And despite the uncertainties of what might follow, 47 percent now favor the immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq - a 12-point rise.

    In a better result for the United States, fewer now blame U.S. or coalition forces directly for the violence occurring in Iraq - 19 percent, down from 31 percent six months ago; as many (21 percent) blame al Qaeda. (Eight percent blame George W. Bush personally.)

    If the United States is unpopular, others fare no better. Seventy-nine percent of Iraqis believe Iran is actively engaged in encouraging sectarian violence in Iraq, up eight points; majorities also suspect Saudi Arabia and Syria of fomenting violence. And the poll finds almost unanimous opposition to most activities of al Qaeda in Iraq; the sole exception is its attacks on U.S. and other coalition forces

    20401. jexster - 9/10/2007 11:59:49 AM


    [.pdf]

    20402. robertjayb - 9/10/2007 12:24:51 PM

    MoveOn's sophomoric headline obscures any righteous messsage they may have had.

    20403. jexster - 9/10/2007 12:25:41 PM

    The French have taken over Stars and Stripes


    Road to nowhere
    Troops clearing routes Pluto, Predator in Iraq see little improvement, find few clues

    By Les Neuhaus, Stars and Stripes
    Mideast edition, Sunday, September 9, 2000


    Who let them in though?
    I mean you can smell a Frenchman from a 1000 yards.
    Musta been an inside job.
    Musta been Moveon.org

    20404. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/10/2007 12:32:41 PM

    Robert is right about the headline, but they nailed this obsequious little CBS whore . . .

    20405. jexster - 9/10/2007 12:56:17 PM

    It's an eye-catcher but it's wrong. PetRaeus has never been loyal to anything but his careerist epaulets so he couldn't betray anyone

    20406. jexster - 9/10/2007 12:58:05 PM

    What a ho! Needs to wash her hair too

    20407. jexster - 9/10/2007 12:59:21 PM

    20408. robertjayb - 9/10/2007 12:59:53 PM

    Duncan Hunter just brought up the ad in the first minutes of the hearing.

    20409. jexster - 9/10/2007 1:10:19 PM

    See...Got our money's worth!


    “If anything, it’s only gotten worse since we’ve been here,” Staff Sgt. Robert Schuelke, of Milwaukee,

    The publication formerly known as Stars and Stripes
    now just stripes



    20410. robertjayb - 9/10/2007 1:27:53 PM


    (firedoglake)

    Farcical beginning. The mikes don't work. Petraeus hasn't said an audible word.

    20411. jexster - 9/10/2007 2:28:35 PM

    Poll: Public Doesn't Care What BeTrayUS - Still Want Out

    Heavens let's not upset anyone!!

    20412. jexster - 9/10/2007 2:31:57 PM

    Despite the administration's efforts, fresh polls reflected significant public opposition to the war. A USA Today-Gallup poll taken in the past few days found that 60 percent of those surveyed favor setting a timetable for removing troops. Only 35 percent favor keeping the troops in Iraq until the situation improves

    20413. jexster - 9/10/2007 2:38:41 PM

    Enter Howard Beale


    20414. jexster - 9/10/2007 2:53:01 PM







    BushKill in Baghdad - 9 Americans Died Today

    20415. jexster - 9/10/2007 2:55:29 PM

    Bush Support for DeadEnders and Saddamites May Hasten Disintegration
    Bloomberg

    20416. jexster - 9/10/2007 3:47:08 PM

    Redefining the BushShit

    Less Talk of Victory Now


    20417. jexster - 9/10/2007 4:38:45 PM

    As Barack said the other day, GWB is the best advertisement the Dems could have..Indeed that is what Hillary is benefiting from..whether from the standpoint of national security or economic prosperity, Americans were indisputably better off under Bill Clinton than George W. Bush

    No matter how you slice it

    Where's My Trickle?
    By Paul Krugman
    The New York Times



    Barack also said that the Democrats will need more than Bush hatred to govern, more than nostalgia for Bill

    20418. jexster - 9/10/2007 5:16:59 PM

    Now isn't that convenient!


    Obama scheduled to make Iraq speech in Clinton, Iowa

    Brzezinski's going to be on stage

    20419. jexster - 9/10/2007 5:46:19 PM

    AP asks How did we get into this mess?


    Hint: It isn't all Georgie's fault, is it Sen Rod Ham?


    Villary's dispatching ButtUgly Albright to Iowa to counter Zbig's appearance

    20420. jexster - 9/10/2007 7:05:08 PM

    So TD, RU a peter pumper or a ho-hoppah??

    NEW ORLEANS -- A former New Orleans prostitute who says she had an affair with Sen. David Vitter has passed a lie-detector test and will provide details of the four-month relationship at a press conference Tuesday, according to Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt.

    Wendy Cortez, whose real name is Wendy Ellis, says she had a sexual relationship with Vitter, R-La., in 1999, when he was a state legislator.

    Copies of the results of Cortez's polygraph test, which she took at Flynt's request, will be provided to reporters at the news conference at Flynt's office in Beverly Hills, Calif., Hustler said in a news release Monday.


    Grand Old Pigpile Family Values



    BOTH?

    20421. jexster - 9/10/2007 8:45:28 PM

    KOS - O in SFO

    Tole ya he rocked

    20422. jexster - 9/10/2007 8:50:21 PM

    California Women for Obama
    San Francisco 9/7/07
    KPIX Video

    20423. jexster - 9/11/2007 6:21:49 AM

    Greenwald: Ignatius bases his entire column on the trite and fact-free claims of an anonymous "leading Democratic Party strategist." Both Ignatius and his cowardly anonymous friend believe that President Bush is on his way to doing what Democrats want -- "announcing that he will begin reducing the number of U.S. troops in Iraq this year" -- and the primary challenge for Democrats is not to get in the way of the President by giving into their loudmouth radical base and thereby constraining the Leader. Here is the rationale for this brilliant position:

    That's the smart Democratic strategy, he argues, to take credit for altering the course of the war. "We have to stop saying we're going to end the war, because we can't," the strategist cautions. But he fears that congressional Democrats, pushed by an angry base, will continue to schedule votes for funding cutoffs and troop-withdrawal dates. That may appeal to the base but not to the country as a whole, the strategist fears.

    Do Democratic Beltway "strategists" ever do anything but "fear"?


    20424. thoughtful - 9/11/2007 8:07:49 AM

    So apparently that was the whole surge strategy...add enough troops so you can reduce the number of troops and take credit for it but still keep at least as many in iraq as you had before the surge.

    20425. jexster - 9/11/2007 11:26:17 AM

    Well said. Let's battle about when to bring home the 3 month temporary brigades that never should have gone in the first place and debate it a year later

    20426. jexster - 9/11/2007 12:33:32 PM

    WASHINGTON - Senate Republicans sharply challenged President Bush's top military general and ambassador in Iraq on Tuesday in a blatant demonstration of misgivings within the GOP about the protracted war.



    "Are we going to continue to invest blood and treasure at the same rate we're doing now? For what?" asked Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., who supports legislation setting a deadline to bring troops home.


    Blatant Sedition



    20427. jexster - 9/11/2007 3:48:28 PM

    May the Farce be with you

    WASHINGTON - President Bush will tell the nation this week he plans to reduce the American troop presence in Iraq by about 30,000 by next summer, but will condition those and further cuts on continued progress, The Associated Press has learned.

    20428. jexster - 9/11/2007 3:54:15 PM

    O! Confronts BetrayUS and Betty Crock o Crap

    and NOW at TPMCafe

    Paul Krugman
    Crank Politics

    20429. jexster - 9/11/2007 4:10:48 PM

    While TD is stuck in 19th Century US Political History


    Krugman

    20430. thoughtful - 9/11/2007 4:14:37 PM

    Not just race issue. The key factor in the last 4 elections was the presence of a 3rd party candidate...perot in the clinton years and nader in the bush years.

    key question, if bloomberg runs as an independent, will he sap more votes from the dems or the gopers?

    20431. jexster - 9/11/2007 4:19:41 PM

    Welcome to Camp Victory
    and
    May the Farce Be With You


    BAGHDAD - An indirect-fire weapon struck the major U.S. headquarters outside Iraq's capital Tuesday, killing one "third-country national" and wounding 11 coalition soldiers, the U.S. command said.


    It was an unusually large number of casualties at Camp Victory, a sprawling base near Baghdad International Airport that includes the headquarters of Multinational Corps-Iraq, which runs the ground war

    20432. jexster - 9/11/2007 4:20:35 PM

    Fundamentally Krugman's correct...3d party candidates in presidential elections have next to zero explanatory power

    20433. jexster - 9/11/2007 4:27:29 PM

    Grilled Gabagool



    Rudy Three Pussies didn't last long..Happy 911 Rudy


    Fred Ties Three Pussies

    20434. jexster - 9/11/2007 4:28:49 PM

    In fact T'filled Perot electing Clinton is a myth and Nader's Florida impact


    Are you drunk?

    20435. thoughtful - 9/12/2007 8:37:15 AM

    Are you?

    20436. jexster - 9/12/2007 11:40:55 AM

    IraqMe Petraeus


    20437. jexster - 9/12/2007 1:21:36 PM

    As Bush opens secret surrender talks with Muqtada Sadr,
    Obama Slams BushVille Pundits and Pols for Iraq Disaster

    20438. jexster - 9/12/2007 2:05:16 PM

    Sinking Like Lucca Brazzi

    Rudy Three Pussies Sleeps with the Fishes

    20439. thoughtful - 9/12/2007 2:55:44 PM

    This is interesting, via froomkin:

    Adam Nossiter writes in the New York Times: "House leaders are beginning an investigation this week of the prosecution of Don Siegelman, the former Democratic governor of Alabama who was imprisoned in June on federal corruption charges. The case could become the centerpiece of a Democratic effort to show that the Justice Department engaged in political prosecutions. . . .

    "Jill Simpson, an Alabama lawyer who signed an affidavit saying she overheard a Republican political operative connect the prosecution of Mr. Siegelman to Karl Rove, will be questioned under oath this week by investigators for the House Judiciary Committee."

    20440. thoughtful - 9/12/2007 3:27:01 PM

    No wonder the people are so dissatisfied with congress...how can you respect a government body without a backbone? via froomkin

    John Bresnahan writes for the Politico: "House Democratic leaders have decided to postpone a vote on a criminal contempt resolution against White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers for several weeks, and possibly longer, according to top lawmakers and aides."

    20441. jexster - 9/12/2007 3:56:21 PM

    Obama Rattles Edwards
    White Boy Comes Unglued

    20442. jexster - 9/12/2007 4:03:53 PM

    Reid Vows to Block Olson

    The only way to deal with George Bush is to tell him to go f*ck himself. I have said that since he stole the election in December 2000.


    Lisa Murkowski's running for re-election. Now she wants to cut and run. Now she wants a time line.

    20443. jexster - 9/12/2007 4:16:57 PM

    Chris Mathews is basically an idiot


    Last week in the Fred Feeding Frenzy he insisted several times on one broadcast that Thompson would draw from Romney.

    I kept yelling at the TV set - YOU MORON! IT's RUDY WHO'LL SINK


    Obama's right to go after the Bushville Pundits and Polticos


    So much for BushLeague experience.

    20444. robertjayb - 9/12/2007 5:49:52 PM

    $80 Oil! Bush's legacy is secure...

    NEW YORK — Oil futures prices rose sharply today, briefly climbing above a record $80 a barrel after the government reported a surprisingly large drop in crude inventories and declines in gasoline supplies and refinery activity.

    The report from the Energy Department's Energy Information Administration suggested oil supplies are tightening as demand remains strong. That's why oil prices are rising despite OPEC's decision on Tuesday to boost crude production by 500,000 barrels per day this fall, analysts said.

    20445. robertjayb - 9/12/2007 5:58:41 PM

    Senator Warner, please move over for Senator Warner...

    (AP)(TPM)--Former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner intends to run for the Senate next year, Democratic officials said Wednesday, assuring his party a competitive race for a seat long in Republican hands.

    20446. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/12/2007 5:59:27 PM

    And the new Bush lawn-jockey in Iraq has secured their oil fields for future exploitation.



    20447. jexster - 9/12/2007 7:08:39 PM

    Full Text of Obama's Iraq Speech, Clinton IA [KOS]

    20448. jexster - 9/12/2007 7:13:01 PM

    Run Lisa Run
    See Lisa Cut and Run


    Wonder why Lisa Murkowski loves withdrawal timetables all of a sudden?


    Novak: GOP Could Lose Five or More Senate Seats Next Year

    20449. jexster - 9/12/2007 7:21:41 PM

    20450. jexster - 9/12/2007 11:18:36 PM

    The Anti-War Primary Now Has a Name - OBAMA
    DailyKos

    20451. jexster - 9/13/2007 12:04:06 AM

    The Pigpile's treatin Old Three Pussies like a rancid hunk of gabagool!!!


    Fred Opens Massive Lead in Georgia

    Guess he didn't get in too late!

    Obama's right. Those BushVille chattering nattering classes are a bad joke

    20452. OhioSTOPAS - 9/13/2007 7:48:26 AM

    How ridiculous and offensive it is for media right-wingers to assert that it's wrong for U.S. Senators to question the accuracy of a General's (questionable) statements. Is he above inquiry and criticism because of his distinguished military record? (Funny, Max Cleland and John Kerry weren't.)

    20453. jexster - 9/13/2007 8:17:49 AM

    Admiral Fallon got it right

    20454. jexster - 9/13/2007 8:29:37 AM

    Your Krony Kleptocracy at Work

    Bircher and Bushevik Hunt Inks Oil Deal with Kurds, Sinks Iraq Oil Law


    Those leeches are gonna suck us as dry as they can before that little shit leaves office

    20455. jexster - 9/13/2007 1:27:52 PM

    Arky!


    Camp Obama - Marshall Ganz, Buffy Wicks Introduction

    20456. jexster - 9/13/2007 2:20:10 PM

    The shit don't flush no mo

    Ah for the 911 trifecta campaigns of yesteryear!

    PetRaeus Performances Haven't Moved Public Opinion One Bit

    Poll

    20457. robertjayb - 9/13/2007 2:47:07 PM

    President Petraeus? Iraqi says told of ambition...

    (The Independent)---The US commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus, expressed long-term interest in running for the US presidency when he was stationed in Baghdad, according to a senior Iraqi official who knew him at that time.

    Sabah Khadim, then a senior adviser at Iraq's Interior Ministry, says General Petraeus discussed with him his ambition when the general was head of training and recruitment of the Iraqi army in 2004-05.

    "I asked him if he was planning to run in 2008 and he said, 'No, that would be too soon'," Mr Khadim, who now lives in London, said.


    20458. jexster - 9/13/2007 3:30:32 PM

    Even more interesting, [the study] finds that of all the Presidential candidates, the one receiving the most military money right now is Barack Obama, who opposed the war from the beginning (though his relative youth could be a key factor, the study speculates).

    Military Contributions to Democrats Surge



    20459. thoughtful - 9/13/2007 3:31:21 PM

    Vote to impeach bush

    20460. jexster - 9/13/2007 3:46:17 PM

    John Boner says 1 trillion dollars and 30,000 US casualties are a "small price".


    The Los Angeles Times has the real world take



    Another $100 billion for Iraq?

    Eleven more months of surge would mean $100 billion that could be better spent elsewhere.

    20461. jexster - 9/13/2007 6:42:32 PM

    Edwards Ad Running on MSNBC

    20462. jexster - 9/13/2007 6:44:38 PM

    Equal Rights=Equal Time for the Colored Man

    20463. jexster - 9/14/2007 11:46:43 AM

    Facing Tough Reelection Bids, GOP Moderates React With Concern

    Get it? Get it?

    20464. jexster - 9/14/2007 11:47:28 AM

    Actually they are "gravely Concerned"

    Get it
    Get it?????

    20465. jexster - 9/14/2007 11:52:52 AM

    Deceptive or Delusional?
    Bush's appalling Iraq speech.

    By Fred Kaplan


    20466. jexster - 9/14/2007 1:29:40 PM

    The Eye of Newt, Head for Fred

    Republicans Need to Dump Bush - Gingrich

    20467. robertjayb - 9/14/2007 2:40:50 PM

    Shaheen to face Sununu for NH senate seat...

    CONCORD, N.H. (AP) -- Former Gov. Jeanne Shaheen announced Friday that she will run again for the U.S. Senate seat that Republican John Sununu beat her out for in 2002.

    In finally entering the race, Shaheen immediately becomes the favorite among the four Democrats seeking the job.


    20468. robertjayb - 9/14/2007 2:41:34 PM

    oop

    20469. jexster - 9/14/2007 2:46:08 PM

    Dumb Texican..go back to Mexico where you came from

    20470. robertjayb - 9/14/2007 3:22:06 PM

    Another one bites the dust...

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) -- The former head of an oil field services company admitted Friday that he had employees work for several months on remodeling the home of Republican U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens.

    Ex-VECO Corp. CEO Bill Allen discussed the work while testifying in the corruption trial of former state House Speaker Pete Kott.


    20471. jexster - 9/14/2007 6:23:46 PM

    Way to run Rudy run!

    "She's changed now that she's running for President"

    20472. robertjayb - 9/14/2007 6:30:17 PM

    Condi a stealth dyke?

    Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice co-owned a home and shared a line of credit with another woman, according to Washington Post diplomatic correspondent Glenn Kessler, who reveals the information in his new book, The Confidante: Condoleezza Rice and the Creation of the Bush Legacy.


    According to the book, Rice owns a home together with Randy Bean, a documentary filmmaker who once worked with Bill Moyers. Kessler made the discovery by looking through real estate records. The home is located in Palo Alto, California.

    Bean explains the joint ownership and line of credit in the book by saying she had medical bills which left her financially drained and Rice helped her by co-purchasing the house along with a third person, Coit Blacker, a Stanford professor. Blacker is openly gay.





    20473. jexster - 9/14/2007 6:31:04 PM

    Stormin Norman's up for re-election

    Coleman Calls For Withdrawal Of Half The Troops — In Three Years>Coleman Calls for Withdrawal of 1/2 troops - in three years

    20474. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/15/2007 11:53:58 PM

    Will the Democrats Betray Us?

    By FRANK RICH
    SIR, I don't know, actually": The fact that America's surrogate commander in chief, David Petraeus, could not say whether the war in Iraq is making America safer was all you needed to take away from last week's festivities in Washington. Everything else was a verbal quagmire, as administration spin and senatorial preening fought to a numbing standoff.

    Not that many Americans were watching. The country knew going in that the White House would win its latest campaign to stay its course of indefinitely shoveling our troops and treasure into the bottomless pit of Iraq. The only troops coming home alive or with their limbs intact in President Bush's troop "reduction" are those who were scheduled to be withdrawn by April anyway. Otherwise the president would have had to extend combat tours yet again, mobilize more reserves or bring back the draft.

    On the sixth anniversary of the day that did not change everything, General Petraeus couldn't say we are safer because he knows we are not. Last Sunday, Michael Scheuer, the former chief of the C.I.A.'s Osama bin Laden unit, explained why. He wrote in The Daily News that Al Qaeda, under the de facto protection of Pervez Musharraf, is "on balance" more threatening today that it was on 9/11. And as goes Pakistan, so goes Afghanistan. On Tuesday, just as the Senate hearings began, Lisa Myers of NBC News reported on a Taliban camp near Kabul in an area nominally controlled by the Afghan government we installed. It is training bomb makers to attack America.

    Little of this registered in or beyond the Beltway. New bin Laden tapes and the latest 9/11 memorial rites notwithstanding, we're back in a 9/10 mind-set. Bin Laden, said Frances Townsend, the top White House homeland security official, "is virtually impotent." Karen Hughes, the Bush crony in charge of America's P.R. in the jihadists' world, recently held a press conference anointing Cal Ripken Jr. our international "special sports envoy." We are once more sleepwalking through history, fiddling while the Qaeda not in Iraq prepares to burn.

    This is why the parallels between Vietnam and Iraq, including those more accurate than Mr. Bush's recent false analogies, can take us only so far. Our situation is graver than it was during Vietnam.

    Certainly there were some eerie symmetries between General Petraeus's sales pitch last week and its often-noted historical antecedent: Gen. William Westmoreland's similar mission for L.B.J. before Congress on April 28, 1967. Westmoreland, too, refused to acknowledge that our troops were caught in a civil war. He spoke as well of the "repeated successes" of the American-trained South Vietnamese military and ticked off its growing number of combat-ready battalions. "The strategy we're following at this time is the proper one," the general assured America, and "is producing results."

    Those fabulous results delayed our final departure from Vietnam for another eight years — just short of the nine to 10 years General Petraeus has said may be needed for a counterinsurgency in Iraq. But there's a crucial difference between the Westmoreland show of 1967 and the 2007 revival by General Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker. Westmoreland played to a full and largely enthusiastic house. Most Americans still supported the war in Vietnam and trusted him; so did all but a few members of Congress, regardless of party. All three networks pre-empted their midday programming for Westmoreland's Congressional appearance.

    Our Iraq commander, by contrast, appeared before a divided and stalemated Congress just as an ABC News-Washington Post poll found that most Americans believed he would overhype progress in Iraq. No network interrupted a soap opera for his testimony. On cable the hearings fought for coverage with Britney Spears's latest self-immolation and the fate of Madeleine McCann, our latest JonBenet Ramsey stand-in.


    20475. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/15/2007 11:54:14 PM

    General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker could grab an hour of prime television time only by slinking into the safe foxhole of Fox News, where Brit Hume chaperoned them on a gloomy, bunkerlike set before an audience of merely 1.5 million true believers. Their "Briefing for America," as Fox titled it, was all too fittingly interrupted early on for a commercial promising pharmaceutical relief from erectile dysfunction.

    Even if military "victory" were achievable in Iraq, America could not win a war abandoned by its own citizens. The evaporation of that support was ratified by voters last November. For that, they were rewarded with the "surge." Now their mood has turned darker. Americans have not merely abandoned the war; they don't want to hear anything that might remind them of it, or of war in general. Katie Couric's much-promoted weeklong visit to the front produced ratings matching the CBS newscast's all-time low. Angelina Jolie's movie about Daniel Pearl sank without a trace. Even Clint Eastwood's wildly acclaimed movies about World War II went begging. Over its latest season, "24" lost a third of its viewers, just as Mr. Bush did between January's prime-time address and last week's.

    You can't blame the public for changing the channel. People realize that the president's real "plan for victory" is to let his successor clean up the mess. They don't want to see American troops dying for that cause, but what can be done? Americans voted the G.O.P. out of power in Congress; a clear majority consistently tell pollsters they want out of Iraq. And still every day is Groundhog Day. Our America, unlike Vietnam-era America, is more often resigned than angry. Though the latest New York Times-CBS News poll finds that only 5 percent trust the president to wrap up the war, the figure for the (barely) Democratic-controlled Congress, 21 percent, is an almost-as-resounding vote of no confidence.

    Last week Democrats often earned that rating, especially those running for president. It is true that they do not have the votes to overcome a Bush veto of any war legislation. But that doesn't mean the Democrats have to go on holiday. Few used their time to cross-examine General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker on their disingenuous talking points, choosing instead to regurgitate stump sentiments or ask uncoordinated, redundant questions. It's telling that the one question that drew blood — are we safer? — was asked by a Republican, John Warner, who is retiring from the Senate.

    Americans are looking for leadership, somewhere, anywhere. At least one of the Democratic presidential contenders might have shown the guts to soundly slap the "General Betray-Us" headline on the ad placed by MoveOn.org in The Times, if only to deflate a counterproductive distraction. This left-wing brand of juvenile name-calling is as witless as the "Defeatocrats" and "cut and run" McCarthyism from the right; it at once undermined the serious charges against the data in the Petraeus progress report (including those charges in the same MoveOn ad) and allowed the war's cheerleaders to hyperventilate about a sideshow. "General Betray-Us" gave Republicans a furlough to avoid ownership of an Iraq policy that now has us supporting both sides of the Shiite-vs.-Sunni blood bath while simultaneously shutting America's doors on the millions of Iraqi refugees the blood bath has so far created.

    It's also past time for the Democratic presidential candidates to stop getting bogged down in bickering about who has the faster timeline for withdrawal or the more enforceable deadline. Every one of these plans is academic anyway as long as Mr. Bush has a veto pen. The security of America is more important — dare one say it? — than trying to outpander one another in Iowa and New Hampshire.

    The Democratic presidential candidates in the Senate need all the unity and focus they can muster to move this story forward, and that starts with the two marquee draws, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. It's essential to turn up the heat full time in Washington for any and every legislative roadblock to administration policy that they and their peers can induce principled or frightened Republicans to endorse.

    They should summon the new chief of central command (and General Petraeus's boss), Adm. William Fallon, for tough questioning; he is reportedly concerned about our lapsed military readiness should trouble strike beyond Iraq. And why not grill the Joint Chiefs and those half-dozen or so generals who turned down the White House post of "war czar" last fall? The war should be front and center in Congress every day.

    Mr. Bush, confident that he got away with repackaging the same bankrupt policies with a nonsensical new slogan ("Return on Success") Thursday night, is counting on the public's continued apathy as he kicks the can down the road and bides his time until Jan. 20, 2009; he, after all, has nothing more to lose. The job for real leaders is to wake up America to the urgent reality. We can't afford to punt until Inauguration Day in a war that each day drains America of resources and will. Our national security can't be held hostage indefinitely to a president's narcissistic need to compound his errors rather than admit them.

    The enemy votes, too. Cataclysmic events on the ground in Iraq, including Thursday's murder of the Sunni tribal leader Mr. Bush embraced two weeks ago as a symbol of hope, have never arrived according to this administration's optimistic timetable. Nor have major Qaeda attacks in the West. It's national suicide to entertain the daydream that they will start doing so now.






    20476. jexster - 9/16/2007 1:05:18 AM

    Concerned that his pack of losers want to start two more fucking wars!


    Lose five
    Start two more

    20477. jexster - 9/16/2007 1:06:23 AM

    Concerned "and"


    The usual crowd of liars, crackpots, and mavens of disaster.


    "Return on success" they call it

    20478. robertjayb - 9/16/2007 3:18:29 PM

    Lincoln Chafee has left the GOP...

    PROVIDENCE — Lincoln D. Chafee, who lost his Senate seat in the wave of anti-Republican sentiment in last November’s election, said yesterday that he has left the party.
    ...............................................

    Chafee’s departure is another step in the waning of the strain of moderate Republicanism that was once a winning political philosophy from Rhode Island and Connecticut to the Canadian border. For the first time since the Civil War, the six New England states combined now have only one Republican U.S. House member, Connecticut’s Christopher Shays.




    20479. robertjayb - 9/16/2007 7:24:55 PM

    New AG...

    WASHINGTON — President Bush has settled on Michael B. Mukasey, a retired federal judge from New York, to replace Alberto Gonzales as attorney general and will announce his selection Monday, a source familiar with the president's decision said Sunday evening.

    Mukasey, who has handled terrorist cases in the U.S. legal system for more than a decade, would become the nation's top law enforcement officer.

    The 66-year-old New York native, who is a legal adviser to GOP presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani, would take charge of a Justice Department where morale is low following months of investigations into the firings of nine U.S. attorneys and Gonzales' sworn testimony on the Bush administration's terrorist surveillance program.


    20480. jexster - 9/16/2007 8:15:08 PM

    Of course, Cunnilingus Rice drinks from the furry bowl.

    Repulsive isn't it!

    20481. concerned - 9/17/2007 10:59:16 AM



    Doesn't this big guy look a lot like Michael Moore?

    20482. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/17/2007 11:14:12 AM

    No, it looks more like Denny Hastert and, being only concerned with its own wants--just like you, con-man!

    20483. thoughtful - 9/17/2007 12:30:35 PM

    #20471...you know obama must be salivating over that ad.

    20484. wonkers2 - 9/17/2007 5:25:57 PM

    Greenspan is a Liar and a Fraud

    20485. jexster - 9/17/2007 6:38:29 PM

    T'filled...I have already suggested that the ABC candidates use the first part of Rudy's ad in a blast at Chillary's so called "experience"

    Send the bitch back for more "seasoning"


    BTW...Obama has his phone bank software up..dry run is calling the 300,000 supporter list re: O's Iraq Speech

    20486. jexster - 9/17/2007 7:11:37 PM

    Hanoi John's PTSD is acting up. Alzheimer's too.

    Probably forgot to take his aricept McCain: "Throw MoveOn.org Out of the Country"

    20487. jexster - 9/17/2007 7:14:05 PM

    But at least he's campaigning. DeadHead Fred hasn't got a single public appearance on his schedule this week


    Guess the GOP nomination isn't worth a pitcher of warm spit. "none of the above" still holds the lead

    20488. jexster - 9/17/2007 7:16:01 PM

    YO WONKSTER

    This bud's for you

    Women for the NegrO SFO Kickoff..best stump speech I have ever heard

    20489. jexster - 9/17/2007 8:26:03 PM

    Hanoi John Has Lost His Mind


    Warns of emerging al-Maliki/Al-Qaeda alliance

    20490. jexster - 9/18/2007 3:33:07 AM

    City wide campaign council convenes Friday..we have the Voter Activation network and online phone bank software


    Ready to rumble Billary bitch!


    Our little group, "tables" outside the Ferry Building on Saturdays registering voters and selling Obama swag for 2 bucks/ea

    We do 130-150 bucks in 3-4 hours! 50% profit for the coordinating team CD8 Fline.....gotta Chinaman running it


    20491. jexster - 9/18/2007 10:53:02 AM

    Boy's Got a Pair

    But are they big enough for him to sit under the "whites only" tree in Jena Lurziana????



    Obama Goes to Wall Street


    NEW YORK - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama told Wall Street investors Monday that several of them have been too focused on their own gain at the expense of struggling Americans and echoed Franklin Delano Roosevelt's call for a "reappraisal of values."


    Obama prides himself on delivering tough messages directly to the source, and his address at the NASDAQ Marketsite was another example. He said a "what's good for me is good enough" mentality has crept into parts of the business world while working men and women toil longer hours and still struggle to pay for health care, tuition and taxes.

    "If we are honest, I think we must admit that those who have benefited from the new global marketplace — and that includes almost everyone in this room — have not always concerned themselves with the losers in this new economy," the Illinois senator said.

    "The danger with this mentality isn't just that it offends our morals, it's that it endangers our markets," Obama said.

    Economic experts including former Commerce secretary Bill Daley, former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson and University of Chicago economist Austan D. Goolsbee helped Obama with the speech, which risks alienating some Wall Street supporters. But Obama said in a recent interview with The Associated Press that he is determined not just to campaign by telling people what they want to hear, but to win support for an agenda for change.

    20492. jexster - 9/18/2007 1:23:17 PM

    Same Old Pigs at the Trough

    Same Old Slop


    Bush-Clinton-Bush- you have GOT to be kidding me!


    Edward's Blasts Shillary's Lobbyist Fundraising Luncheon

    20493. jexster - 9/18/2007 1:49:50 PM

    WHillary Rod Ham - Whore to the Lieberman/Likud Wing of the Democratic Party

    20494. robertjayb - 9/18/2007 2:23:08 PM

    Here comes Henry---Going after State Dept...

    WASHINGTON, Aug. 18 — A top House Democrat has issued an unusually strongly worded letter alleging that the State Department inspector general has interfered repeatedly with investigations into fraud and abuse in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that he had done so “to protect the State Department and the White House from political embarrassment.”

    The letter, from Representative Henry Waxman of California, described allegations against the inspector general, Howard Krongard, that Mr. Waxman said covered all major divisions of the inspector general’s office investigations, audits and inspections. It said the assertions came from several current and former employees of that office, who buttressed their charges with e-mail messages.

    The letter said that the staff complaints followed Mr. Krongard’s testimony on July 26 to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which Mr. Waxman heads. Some of the complainants had sought “whistleblower” status, which protects government employees who report malfeasance from being punished for doing so. Other allegations came from two former senior officials, the committee said.


    20495. jexster - 9/18/2007 3:11:37 PM

    20496. jexster - 9/18/2007 8:50:25 PM

    * Clinton sees lessons in past failure


    20497. concerned - 9/19/2007 1:25:41 AM

    Harry Reid has proved that he's one stupid motherfucker.

    20498. jexster - 9/19/2007 7:53:14 AM

    Talk about stoopid, the Hucksters can't even keep their lies straight any more

    Newly Released MNF Document Contradicts Petraeus's Slurge Assertions


    He's the fucking CO!


    Well, Little Georgie sure plowed through that 911 trifecta jackpot....not a dime left

    20499. concerned - 9/19/2007 2:08:00 PM

    Worst Congress Ever!!! Approval Rating Drops to 11%, George W. Bush Approval Rating Margin Over Congress Surges to 163%

    Looks like my prediction is being realized that Peloser's/Reid's Congress approval rating is dropping or has already dropped to her shoe size, judging by the estimated size of her mouth in photographs.

    20500. concerned - 9/19/2007 2:17:48 PM

    Worst Congress Ever!!!

    11%11%11%11%11%11%

    20501. concerned - 9/19/2007 2:19:43 PM

    Should we impeach the Democrat Party?

    20502. jexster - 9/19/2007 2:21:58 PM

    Harry Reid has proved that he's one stupid motherfucker.


    Must be doing something right

    20503. jexster - 9/19/2007 2:25:11 PM

    20500
    GOP loses another to retirement



    GOP retirements are dimming already long chances of recapturing control of Congress in 2008.

    20504. concerned - 9/19/2007 2:30:18 PM

    Considering that Zogby weights his polls to favor the Left and the 3% margin of error, chances are that the real Congressional approval rating is already in SINGLE DIGITS.

    Congrats, jexster. You guys are really good for shit, that is.

    20505. jexster - 9/19/2007 2:42:18 PM

    Larry Craig's back at work and Bob Novak is predicting a 5 seat Pigpile Senate loss - minimum

    Considering that Bob Novak "weights his polls to favor the Right"


    Got milk?



    The Republicans are the last thing the democratic party needs to worry about

    20506. jexster - 9/19/2007 2:45:30 PM

    Worst president in US History and his Congressional lackeys and crooks....the politics of upheaval has arrived and you still ain't got game TD


    Doom and Gloom in Novak Land


    As I said, the democrats needn't be Concerned

    20507. concerned - 9/19/2007 2:46:29 PM

    Not if the Democrats stay home in droves, and they will, the way this Congress is shaping up.

    Look at the bright side, jexster. Usually unpopular Congresses are actually doing something. Peloser, Reid & Co. have perfected that formula - they've accomplished nothing yet, less than a year into power, they are by far the most unpopular Congress ever!

    20508. concerned - 9/19/2007 2:47:16 PM

    Look at the bright side, jexster. Usually unpopular Congresses are actually doing something. Peloser, Reid & Co. have perfected that formula - they've accomplished nothing, yet less than a year into power, they are by far the most unpopular Congress ever!

    20509. jexster - 9/19/2007 2:47:28 PM

    Working on bumper stickers



    Catchy eh?

    20510. concerned - 9/19/2007 2:50:28 PM

    Jesse Jackson is saying Hussein acts 'too white'.

    20511. concerned - 9/19/2007 2:57:36 PM

    Re. 20509 -

    I like this one:

    From 'Six in '06' to 'One and Done'

    20512. jexster - 9/19/2007 3:04:36 PM

    Osama to you



    Oprah's calling Jesse

    Biden said he was the clean nigger

    20513. jexster - 9/19/2007 3:05:23 PM

    20514. jexster - 9/19/2007 3:06:30 PM

    20515. jexster - 9/19/2007 3:10:53 PM

    He could almost sit under the white tree with the Republicans


    20516. thoughtful - 9/19/2007 3:39:40 PM

    I so enjoy froomkin. From today:

    And Pew once again asked an open-ended question, asking respondents for the word that best describes the situation in Iraq these days.

    The most frequently volunteered expressions were mess, bad, terrible, sad, horrible, disaster, hopeless, chaos, confused, disappointing, bring troops home, disgusting, tragic and unfortunate.


    20517. thoughtful - 9/19/2007 3:44:44 PM

    Also from froomkin, I'm just not sure how to take this one:

    But Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is said to be putting her foot down: "The Sunday Telegraph has been told that Mr Bush has privately promised her that he would consult 'meaningfully' with Congressional leaders of both parties before any military action against Iran on the understanding that Miss Rice would resign if this did not happen."

    I'm glad to see rice has cajones, if this is true, but bush has about a 0% chance of following through on this promise, in which case she'd go, which could potentially be a good or a really bad thing. Can you see wolfowitz as sec state?

    20518. jexster - 9/19/2007 4:08:24 PM

    Yeah that Pew poll is excellent..that's why the last thing Dems in Congress have to worry about is public revulsion with Bushville

    The Dems need to worry about Sen Rod Ham....the answer GOP's prayers

    20519. thoughtful - 9/19/2007 4:09:13 PM

    concerned, re your 11%, you do realize that the reason why so many people are unhappy with congress is because it isn't doing what it was elected to do, namely get us out of iraq. And the reason why it isn't doing what it was elected to do is because it is running such a slim margin majority (esp given lieberman and johnson in the senate) that it is unable to enact even legislation that suggests a possibility of a timetable for withdrawal. The gopers won't sign on so congress is still stuck. no wonder people are unhappy!

    20520. jexster - 9/19/2007 4:16:21 PM

    Support the troops?

    Not the Grand Old Pigpile
    They'd rather talk about it in the Raygun National Airport mens' rooms


    GOP Opposes Rest for Troops

    20521. jexster - 9/19/2007 4:44:14 PM

    Another Fillibuster

    The Pigpile just blocked a Democratic attempt to restore the fundamental constitutional right of habeas corpus even though it had majority support

    20522. jexster - 9/19/2007 4:44:35 PM

    Wonder how Larry Craig voted?

    20523. jexster - 9/19/2007 5:05:29 PM

    Edwards Rips Sen Rod Ham

    "a corrupt campaign" Edwards blasts Shrillary for holding a fundraiser to introduce lobbyists to legislators

    A colored boy might be shy about boinking a white bitch

    Edwards isn't

    20524. thoughtful - 9/19/2007 5:17:31 PM

    20520...whoever that interviewer was should fired. Especially when you only have 3 min to question someone, you should let them talk. I think she interrupted him or talked over him more than she let him talk. she must have attended the chris matthews school of interviewing. no one interviews like the i-man.

    20525. jexster - 9/19/2007 5:20:18 PM

    Thanks to the PC Police, Lt.Wonkers commanding, Imus be imprisoned

    FREE IMUS
    HANG OJ
    JAIL THE JENA 6

    20526. jexster - 9/19/2007 5:22:46 PM

    Larry Craig's not the only turd in the GOP toilet


    20527. concerned - 9/19/2007 5:54:29 PM

    Re. 20521 -

    jexster -

    Please learn what habeas corpus is before posting on the subject.

    20528. jexster - 9/19/2007 6:12:10 PM

    Grand Old Pigpile Shows True Colors

    and they ain't red, white, blue



    The Senate blocked legislation Wednesday that would have regulated the amount of time troops spent in combat, a blow for Democrats struggling to challenge President Bush's Iraq policies.

    The 56-44 vote was four votes short of reaching the 60 needed to cut off debate.
    It was the second time in as many months that the bill, sponsored by Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., was sidetracked. In July, a similar measure fell four votes short of advancing.

    20529. jexster - 9/19/2007 6:12:56 PM

    Thank you TD, I've practiced law for 30 years.

    When I want your legal advice, I'll be sure and ask for it

    20530. Max Macks - 9/19/2007 7:20:42 PM

    I guess Harry Reid is a good man , etc.

    but he makes such a weak impression when he speaks.

    I wish they had a better speaker as Maj.Leader of
    the Senate.

    20531. jexster - 9/19/2007 7:23:57 PM

    If he makes TD mad you know he's kickin ass!


    Speaking of Grand Old Pigpiles of slime....Seems that Jesse Jackson never criticized Obama

    Seems that was a lie another lynching by the Vast Republican Right Wing Slime Conspiracy

    KKK South Carolina Klavern

    20532. jexster - 9/19/2007 7:48:20 PM

    Like dying flies on poisoned pig shit


    Like Flies

    Scandal-tarred Rep. Weller (R) to retire.

    20533. jexster - 9/19/2007 8:37:21 PM

    True Stench


    20534. jexster - 9/19/2007 8:42:10 PM

    Last month the Pigpile's Presidential field told the Hispanics to fuck off

    Today the GOP candidates unanimously spurned a debate invitation at a black college


    The South shall rise again




    No Democrats allowed under that tree

    20535. jexster - 9/20/2007 12:16:50 AM



    Texans turn against Bush's war

    Disillusionment with Iraq is smoldering even in the heart of Bush country, where military families have paid a heavy price.



    Still give em back to Mexico

    20536. jexster - 9/20/2007 12:27:24 AM

    Wonder why the USA is losing????


    Texas has paid a price for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. More Texans than people from any other state have served in those wars. From September 2001 through July 2007, 171,335 active-duty service members and 23,906 National Guard troops and reservists from Texas have been deployed with Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom, according to data provided to Salon by the Department of Defense


    and George W. Bush AWOL Commander in Chief???

    Lyndon Johnson?

    John Bell Hood?


    Remember the Alamo anyone?


    Cowboy: "Sir! Texas, Sir!"
    Gny. Sgt. Hartman, Drill Instructor: "Holy dog bleep! Texas? Only steers and queers come from Texas, Private Cowboy. And you don't look much like a steer to me so that kinda narrows it down. Do you suck dicks?"
    Cowboy: "Sir! No Sir!"
    Gny. Sgt. Hartman, Drill Instructor: "Are you a peter puffer?"
    Cowboy: "Sir! No Sir!"
    Gny. Sgt. Hartman, Drill Instructor: "I'll bet you're the kinda guy that would bleep a person in the ass and not even have the bleepdamn common courtesy to give him a reach-around. I'll be watching you."

    20537. jexster - 9/20/2007 12:32:05 AM

    Is Concerned a peter puffer?

    How about the Ace of Spades?

    I KNOW 109109 could "suck a golf ball through a garden hose" and AlDavis could too..when he had teeth

    20538. jexster - 9/20/2007 12:43:02 AM

    The 11% Congress

    Filibustered TWO bills with majority support in one cay.

    That puts them over 50 bills filibustered and the first session isn't even over.

    I say THROW THE REST OF THE BUMS OUT

    but keep Larry Craig...somewhere out there there's a man in a bathroom stall just waiting to do a US Senator

    20539. jexster - 9/20/2007 1:25:15 AM

    My bad....The Worst Congress and the Worst President Ever




    World record for defying the will of the American people


    Feel their pain

    20540. concerned - 9/20/2007 12:21:31 PM

    No, polls say Jimmuh Cahtuh was the worst president ever. He came in at about 22% for a while during his presiduncy.

    20541. concerned - 9/20/2007 12:22:49 PM

    habeas corpus for enemy combatants

    jexster finally quotes a cite that doesn't lie about it.

    20542. jexster - 9/20/2007 12:25:27 PM

    Worst President Ever

    Eye of Newt
    Gringrich - Give Me 30 Million and I'll Save You

    20543. concerned - 9/20/2007 12:26:16 PM

    Re. 20539 -

    When the Republicans controlled Congress, Democrats used the filibuster without restraint. Why is this guy crying about it now?

    20544. concerned - 9/20/2007 12:27:11 PM

    Re. 20537 -

    Never 'puffed a peter' in my life.

    20545. concerned - 9/20/2007 12:28:32 PM

    I never indulged in anal sex of any sort, either.

    Now jexster knows.

    20546. jexster - 9/20/2007 12:29:26 PM

    If the Democrats used the filibuster "without restraint" why are the Republicans using it THREE TIMES more than any other Congress in History?


    That was before yesterday's astonishing THREE

    Flush the Turd Blossoms Nixon Yellow, Bush RED,Raygun Blue


    20547. concerned - 9/20/2007 12:33:29 PM

    Dan Rather Sues CBS, Seeking To 'Restore His Reputation'

    Hey, Dan, what about George W. Bush's reputation? Maybe he should sue your rotten ass.

    Maybe Dan and OJ can collaborate on their next book.

    One of the forged memos Rather staked his reputation on, typed on "Word '73":

    20548. concerned - 9/20/2007 12:35:28 PM

    Re 20546 -

    The Republicans have not used the filibuster (note correct spelling, jexster) "THREE TIMES more than any other Congress in History", you lying little turdball.

    20549. jexster - 9/20/2007 12:49:10 PM

    Eat shit


    20550. jexster - 9/20/2007 12:51:45 PM

    WASHINGTONThis year Senate Republicans are threatening filibusters to block more legislation than ever before, a pattern that's rooted in — and could increase — the pettiness and dysfunction in Congress.


    Filibusters are most effective at the end of sessions and we have two of those to come.


    They just did another one.

    20551. thoughtful - 9/20/2007 12:52:45 PM

    waste of time to argue about points of fact.

    20552. thoughtful - 9/20/2007 12:53:38 PM

    jex, you beat me.

    Of course my response was far more genteel.

    20553. jexster - 9/20/2007 12:56:01 PM

    That's cause you're a beeyatch!


    Sue me Wonk Sharpton

    20554. jexster - 9/20/2007 1:00:08 PM

    Brings back memories. We had a ton back in the day 73-78


    But then men were men not bathroom sex queens. When they filibustered I had a ton of work to do covering the floor because filibusters, used as a vehicle as much to force changes as kill bills. would go on and on and compromises come and go and they'd even filibuster amendments to bills being filibustered..once at least as I recall - involves sandbagging unanimous consent


    Those were the days of men not BushLeague bitches

    20555. jexster - 9/20/2007 1:33:19 PM

    Holy dog shit Private Cowboy...Senator Toilet hasn't left the building

    No surprise that the Euro has reached an all time high against the dollar but one Canadian dollar = one USD?!?!?!?


    The Eagle Has Crash Landed - Heckuva Job Georgie


    The United States in decline? Few people today would believe this assertion. The only ones who do are the U.S. hawks, who argue vociferously for policies to reverse the decline. This belief that the end of U.S. hegemony has already begun does not follow from the vulnerability that became apparent to all on September 11, 2001. In fact, the United States has been fading as a global power since the 1970s, and the U.S. response to the terrorist attacks has merely accelerated this decline. To understand why the so-called Pax Americana is on the wane requires examining the geopolitics of the 20th century, particularly of the century's final three decades. This exercise uncovers a simple and inescapable conclusion: The economic, political, and military factors that contributed to U.S. hegemony are the same factors that will inexorably produce the coming U.S. decline.

    20556. jexster - 9/20/2007 1:41:14 PM

    Running on Rod Ham's Experience

    WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Chris Dodd Thursday criticized rival Hillary Rodham Clinton's rollout of her health care plan, saying she had mismanaged her effort to reshape the health care system as first lady, resulting in a major policy debacle.

    Like I've been saying all over the internet and no one has been able to expand my list of Rod Ham's experiences beyond:

    1. Sponsor Great Health Care Debacle 1993
    2. Co Sponsor GOP takeover of Congress
    3. Chambermaid, Lincoln Bedroom
    4. Co Sponsor Greatest Strategic Disaster in US History 2002-2006

    20557. jexster - 9/20/2007 1:42:54 PM

    Sad thing is, that the Worst President in US History is making 60% approval Bill look like Abraham Lincoln or some such


    Longing for Bill is the foundation of Brunehilde's support

    20558. concerned - 9/20/2007 2:04:26 PM

    Don't worry. Jimmuh Cahtuh is long gone from office. Wrt the Pantload, he was earning approval points from Democrats for the same behavior that got him impeached.

    20559. concerned - 9/20/2007 2:09:00 PM

    Abraham Lincoln (or more accurately, his policies) were quite unpopular for much of his first term in office, btw.

    20560. concerned - 9/20/2007 2:10:49 PM

    And Xlowntoon accomplished very little in office, so nobody who doesn't have shit for brains is in danger of comparing him to Lincoln.

    20561. concerned - 9/20/2007 2:19:46 PM

    From what I've seen, the Senate Republicans are justified in at least most of their filbustering. The 'Rats are trying to pass a lot of thoughtless, garbage legislation without attempting to reach any accommodations with the other side of the aisle first.

    20562. concerned - 9/20/2007 2:20:18 PM

    ...typo....filibustering...

    20563. jexster - 9/20/2007 3:43:32 PM

    Glad you think they're justified...this from a crackpot who's not 5 messages back was proved a liar once again. Why bother with the facts, when you can make shit up


    Worst congress ever

    Defy the will of the people...Save Bush?

    Feel their pain..watch them sinking to their watery grave Grand Old PilesofPigshit in the Larry Craig toilet bowl of corruption

    Bush's stairway to paradise

    Hoping that history will somehow vindicate him, the president has entered a phase of decadent perversity.

    By Sidney Blumenthal





    Bush is a classic insecure authoritarian who imposes humiliating tests of obedience on others in order to prove his superiority and their inferiority. In 1999, according to Draper, at a meeting of economic experts at the Texas governor's mansion, Bush interrupted Rove when he joined in the discussion, saying, "Karl, hang up my jacket." In front of other aides, Bush joked repeatedly that he would fire Rove. (Laura Bush's attitude toward Rove was pointedly disdainful. She nicknamed him "Pigpen," for wallowing in dirty politics. He was staff, not family -- certainly not people like them.)

    ...
    Bush grasps at the straws of his own disinformation as he casts himself deeper into the abyss. The more profound and compounded his blunders, and the more he redoubles his certainty in ultimate victory, the greater his indifference to failure. He has entered a phase of decadent perversity, where he accelerates his errors to vindicate his folly. As the sands of time run down, he has decided that no matter what he does, history will finally judge him as heroic.

    The greater the chaos, the more he reinforces and rigidifies his views. The more havoc he wreaks, the more he insists he is succeeding. His intensified struggle for self-control is matched by his increased denial of responsibility. Hence Petraeus.



    Bush's ever-inflating self-confidence hides his gaping fear of failure. His obsession with deference demands exercises of humiliation that never satisfy him. His unwavering resolve is maintained by his adamant refusal to wade into the waters of ambiguity. "You can't talk me out of thinking freedom's a good thing!" he protests to his biographer. For Bush, even when he is long out of office, presiding at his planned library's Freedom Institute -- "I would like to build a Hoover Institute" -- victory will always be just around the corner.

    Bush grasps at the straws of his own disinformation as he casts himself deeper into the abyss. The more profound and compounded his blunders, and the more he redoubles his certainty in ultimate victory, the greater his indifference to failure. He has entered a phase of decadent perversity, where he accelerates his errors to vindicate his folly. As the sands of time run down, he has decided that no matter what he does, history will finally judge him as heroic.


    20564. jexster - 9/20/2007 3:45:00 PM

    Pigpiles of Perversity

    Bet TD could suck a golf ball through a garden hose

    20565. jexster - 9/20/2007 3:54:47 PM

    Rather pathetic character for Republicans to sacrifice their political careers for

    Those around him have learned how to manipulate him through the art of flattery. Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld played Bush like a Stradivarius, exploiting his grandiosity. "Rumsfeld would later tell his lieutenants that if you wanted the president's support for an initiative, it was always best to frame it as a 'Big New Thing.'" Other aides played on Bush's self-conception as "the Decider." "To sell him on an idea," writes Draper, "aides were now learning, the best approach was to tell the president, This is going to be a really tough decision." But flattery always requires deference. Every morning, Josh Bolten, the chief of staff, greets Bush with the same words: "Thank you for the privilege of serving today." (according to the Draper Bio)

    20566. jexster - 9/20/2007 3:57:49 PM

    Repudiate or perish

    Through his interposition of Petraeus, Bush has bound his party to his fate. Of the Republicans, only Newt Gingrich, former speaker of the House, leader of the 1994 self-styled radical "revolution" that captured Congress, is willing to speak publicly about the danger Bush poses to the future of the party. "I believe for any Republican to win in 2008, they have to have a clean break and offer a dramatic, bold change," he told a group of reporters on Sept. 14. "If we nominate somebody who has not done that ... they're very, very unlikely to win it."

    But repudiating Bush would also mean repudiating Gingrich's legacy, too

    20567. jexster - 9/20/2007 4:02:33 PM

    Poll: More Republicans Than Democrats Approve of Congress

    20568. concerned - 9/20/2007 4:15:03 PM

    Re. 20567 -

    That's because Republicans can appreciate the advantages of having a do-nothing moron-led Democrat Congress and so aren't nearly as wound up as the squinch-brained BDS addled Left.

    20569. concerned - 9/20/2007 4:16:27 PM

    From the Baltimore Sun:

    Senate rebukes MoveOn.org for Gen. 'Betray Us' ad
    by Frank James

    The Senate approved, by a 72 to 25 vote, a symbolic, Republican-initiated resolution condemning the recent MoveOn.org ad that called Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. "Betray Us," with 22 Democrats voting with the Republicans.

    The resolution, introduced by Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) as an amendment to a defense authorization bill, had this statement of purpose:


    "To express the sense of the Senate that General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force-Iraq, deserves the full support of the Senate and strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all members of the United States Armed Forces."

    That official statement didn't mention MoveOn but it didn't have to. Everyone knew it was directed at the liberal group that has provided a lot of volunteers and donations to Democrats in recent years.

    It was a vote meant to demonstrate the genuine outrage felt by many lawmakers, and not just Republicans, at the personal attack the ad represented on a widely respected military leader during war time.

    But it didn't hurt, from the GOP's perspective, that it helped burnish the party's pro-military image and that it put Democrats in a difficult position politically since MoveOn.org has become an important force in Democratic Party politics.

    Ever since the ad ran last week, Republicans have demanded that Democratic presidential candidates renounce the ad and MoveOn.org. The Democratic candidates have refused to publicly criticize MoveOn.org though Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) said the ad was wrong.

    Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) had offered an alternative to Cornyn's resolution that meant to support the troops without singling out the Petraeus ad and, by implication, MoveOn.org.

    The statement of purpose of her resolution read thusly:


    To reaffirm strong support for all the men and women of the United States Armed Forces and to strongly condemn attacks on the honor, integrity, and patriotism of any individual who is serving or has served honorably in the United States Armed Forces, by any person organization.

    The vote on Boxer's resolution broke nearly along party lines, getting a simple majority of 51 -- 46 Democrats, three Republicans and two independents.

    A Bloomberg News story quoted Boxer as saying the following:

    "This is about politics, lets face it," said Senator Barbara Boxer of California, the sponsor of the Democratic measure. "Since when are we the ad police?"

    Boxer's bill failed, however, because, to get just about any legislation through the Senate takes 60 votes, enough to end debate.

    20570. jexster - 9/20/2007 4:18:15 PM

    MoveOn Hits Back At Senate: "No Wonder Public Approval Of Congress Is Tanking"
    By Greg Sargent - September 20, 2007, 3:36PM

    MoveOn chief Eli Pariser hammers back at today's Senate vote condemning his group with this statement:


    Hard to argue with, really. What we're really hoping to see soon is some polling on the question of the importance the American public accords the Ad Heard Round The World.



    20571. jexster - 9/20/2007 4:20:38 PM

    Clean out the Pigpile
    Finish the job begun last year

    Worst congress ever

    20572. jexster - 9/20/2007 4:21:35 PM

    World Filibuster Record

    Passing meaningless stunt resolutions ..cruising toilets for sex...

    20573. jexster - 9/20/2007 4:24:40 PM




    20574. jexster - 9/20/2007 4:25:37 PM

    20575. jexster - 9/20/2007 7:33:02 PM

    The Stench

    Grand jury targets ex-DeLay adviser
    By: JOHN BRESNAHAN |The Poltico

    Blog: Subpoena is the first formal notification that Ed Buckham is the focus of a federal corruption probe.


    Senate Votes to Do PR For MoveOn

    20576. jexster - 9/20/2007 7:38:23 PM

    Veto This Bitch

    Grassley slams Bush over child health bill
    Top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee angry at Bush SCHIP veto threat.

    20577. jexster - 9/20/2007 7:40:11 PM

    Quote Of The Day



    -- Nancy Pelosi, in a rare foray into criticism of Senate rules, arguing that the primary function of the GOP filibusters is to protect the President from having to veto Iraq withdrawal measures that are popular with the public. It certainly is working out that way, isn't it.

    20578. jexster - 9/20/2007 7:42:23 PM

    Quote of the Day II



    Bush incessantly invokes a host of presidents past -- Truman, Lincoln and Washington -- as appropriate comparisons, and also talks of Winston Churchill. Frederick Kagan, the neoconservative instigator of "the surge," refers to it as "Gettysburg," a leap of historical imagination that transforms Bush into the Great Emancipator. In his unstoppable commentary about himself, Bush has become as certain of his exalted place in history as he is of his policy's rightness. He projects his image into the future, willing his enshrinement as a great president. History has become a magical incantation for him, a kind of prayerful refuge where he is safe from having to think in the present. For Bush, history is supernatural, a deus ex machina, nothing less than a kind of divine intervention enabling him to enter presidential Valhalla. Through his fantasy about history as afterlife -- the stairway to paradise -- he rationalizes his current course.

    20579. jexster - 9/20/2007 9:04:30 PM

    Worst President Ever - Concerned Lies Again


    23% - that was NIXON

    Carter's now tied with Bush in Gallup. Jimmy's low - 29% and never as low as long as the Worst President in US Histor

    George "Honest Abe" Bush
    Damn that's 3 in one day. He's got game!


    20580. OhioSTOPAS - 9/20/2007 9:10:15 PM

    I heard the President's proposal for SChip described as an "increase" on the radio today. Perhaps, but only in the most literal sense. The Bush budget would spend $30 billion on SChip in the next five years, as compared to $25 billion in the last five. With increases in population and the cost of medical care, the amount Bush has budgeted for 2007-2012 would remove coverage from children who would receive coverage under the 2002-2007 budget.

    It's reminiscent of the "slowing of the rate of increase" for Medicare proposed by Newt Gingrich and fellow Repubs in the 90's, legislation that would have reduced services and increased co-pays of Medicare recipients - but "It's not a 'cut'!"

    20581. OhioSTOPAS - 9/20/2007 9:13:26 PM

    Not too long ago, I heard someone ask the question, "In fifty years, will we consider George W. Bush the worst president ever?"

    Many punchlines are available, of course. Mine was, "I sure as hell hope so - if not, that means that someone worse is coming up!"

    20582. OhioSTOPAS - 9/20/2007 9:20:58 PM

    If only the General's surname was "Passkissinglittlechickenshit."

    Then MoveOn could have written an ad even his commanding officer would approve of.

    20583. arkymalarky - 9/20/2007 9:23:52 PM

    HAHAHAHA! How long ago was it now that the Republicans wanted to do away with the filibuster? Too bad they didn't get their way!

    20584. jexster - 9/20/2007 9:54:29 PM

    Ohio

    ROFLMAO


    Leave Gen Petraeus alone


    Bush immediately moveOn to action blasting moveOn and exhorting America to stay the course to victory in Iraq!!!!



    Novak's right to worry...Filibuster proof Senate coming

    20585. jexster - 9/20/2007 10:37:47 PM

    While Concerned pretends Bush is Abe Lincoln and that we're paying a small price in Iraq's Civil War...


    Thomas Ricks, WaPo military affairs reporter, has some advice for the rest of us who live in the real world:




    The BushVille Democrats have nothing to fear from the Republican Party

    20586. concerned - 9/20/2007 11:32:41 PM

    The impression of incompetence is so prevalent that it has plunged Carter close to the lowest poll ratings ever reached by a President. The figures: a 25% overall approval rating in the latest ABC News-Louis Harris poll, or one point below the nadir reached by Richard Nixon in a Harris survey two months before he resigned.

    As I posted, Jimmuh Cahtuh - the worst president in US history, or at least the 20th Century.

    And I caught jexster at another of his damned lies again.

    20587. concerned - 9/20/2007 11:45:59 PM

    Also, in 1952, even Gallup had Truman at a whopping 22% approval rating.

    Suck on that one, jexster.

    20588. concerned - 9/20/2007 11:46:48 PM

    So, maybe Truman and Cahtuh should share the distinction of being the co-equal worst presidents in the 20th Century.

    20589. jexster - 9/21/2007 7:48:36 AM

    Here are the figures:

    Presidential Job Approval at 29% or Lower Historically


    Approval Rating


    Date



    %





    Truman


    22


    1952 Feb 9-14


    Truman


    23


    1952 Jan 6-11


    Truman


    23


    1951 Nov 11-16


    Nixon


    24


    1974 Aug 2-5


    Nixon


    24


    1974 Jul 12-15


    Truman


    24


    1951 May 19-24


    Truman


    24


    1951 Apr 16-21


    Nixon


    25


    1974 May 10-13


    Nixon


    25


    1974 May 3-6


    Nixon


    25


    1974 Apr 12-15


    Nixon


    25


    1974 Feb 22-25


    Truman


    25


    1952 Jan 20-25


    Truman


    25


    1951 Jun 16-21


    Nixon


    26


    1974 Jun 21-24


    Nixon


    26


    1974 May 17-20


    Nixon


    26


    1974 Apr 19-22


    Nixon


    26


    1974 Mar 29-Apr 1


    Nixon


    26


    1974 Mar 8-11


    Nixon


    26


    1974 Jan 18-21


    Truman


    26


    1951 Feb 4-9


    Nixon


    27


    1974 Feb 8-11


    Nixon


    27


    1974 Jan 4-7


    Nixon


    27


    1973 Nov 2-5


    Nixon


    27


    1973 Oct 19-22


    Truman


    27


    1952 May 11-16


    Truman


    27


    1951 Mar 4-9


    Carter


    28


    1979 Jun 29-Jul 2


    Nixon


    28


    1974 Jun 28-Jul 1


    Nixon


    28


    1974 May 31-Jun 3


    Nixon


    28


    1974 Feb 1-4


    Truman


    28


    1952 Apr 13-18


    Truman


    28


    1951 Mar 26-31


    Truman


    29


    1951 Jul 8-13


    Truman


    29


    1951 Oct 14-19


    Truman


    29


    1951 Jul 13-18


    Nixon


    29


    1973 Dec 7-10


    Carter


    29


    1979 Jun 1-4


    Carter


    29


    1979 Jun 22-25


    Carter


    29


    1979 Jul 13-16


    Carter


    29


    1979 Oct 5-8


    Bush


    29


    1992 Jul 31-Aug 2


    Bush


    29


    2007 Jul 6-8



    20590. jexster - 9/21/2007 7:50:48 AM

    Bush is at 29 right now in the Gallup poll and while the Worst President Ever is, obviously, not the same as the Most Unpopular President Ever, Bush wins that one too for while there have been lower numbers, no President has had such high disapproval numbers for as long as George W. Bush


    It ain't the trifecta but it is the Daily Double

    20591. jexster - 9/21/2007 7:53:00 AM

    A disapproval of 65% ties for the second highest ever recorded. The highest ever recorded was just one point higher, 66%, for Richard Nixon in August of 1974, about one week before he resigned.

    20592. concerned - 9/21/2007 10:33:05 AM

    Sorry, jexster -

    The rules say that no two term president can qualify as 'worst president ever'. This should be obvious because no president that bad would have had a chance at being reelected.

    20593. jexster - 9/21/2007 11:15:16 AM

    We're making up rules now

    20594. jexster - 9/21/2007 11:17:11 AM

    Six Billion in Iraq Contracts Under Criminal Review

    20595. jexster - 9/21/2007 12:17:16 PM

    Dozens of 2004 Bush Rangers Bolt for Democrats
    War and Widening Deficit Trouble Bushie's Heavy Hitters

    20596. jexster - 9/21/2007 12:21:29 PM

    Cesspool of Corruption

    FBI Tapped Sen Stevens's Phones

    20597. jexster - 9/21/2007 12:23:04 PM

    Reid: "War Now Belongs to the Grand Old Pigpile"

    And Brunhilde Rod Ham because there are no do-overs in politics

    20598. jexster - 9/21/2007 1:00:45 PM

    The Filibuster Congress Paid for It, They Own It

    Bush Plans for IraQ Will Cost Trillions - Budget Office

    20599. jexster - 9/21/2007 1:06:33 PM


    Back in October 2002, I attended the Johnston wedding with all the politicos from back Bushville way. The War Party Dems had just passed the War Res two days before. Tim Roemer was there and I wasn't in a good mood

    I told my ole DC pal and Chevron GR lady Laura that I wanted to read Roemer's beads in front of God and the assembled witnesses. She appealed to the angels of my better nature but nearly lost the battle when I asked "What are Clinton and that gang of chicken shits thinking? Trust Bush not to make war?"

    "Oh they realize that but they think that they can stop him via the appropriations process"

    "Like I said, what is that gang of chicken shit mutha fuckas thinking?"


    Run on experience I say

    20600. jexster - 9/21/2007 2:02:06 PM

    It's all Klowntoon's fault TD

    Do the math

    Jumping Ship


    Forget about the presidential race. How are things looking for the GOP in the House and Senate for 2008? Not so good, at least when you add up the number of Republicans retiring and leaving once secure seats open to possible Democratic takeover.




    20601. jexster - 9/21/2007 2:11:53 PM

    Yikes!

    The President is scared of horses? So says the former President of Mexico.

    --David Kurtz



    Only steers and queers come from Texas

    20602. jexster - 9/21/2007 2:15:54 PM

    And now that the Feds are onto the Bug Meister, Allah only knows how many GOP cockroaches will fall with him

    20603. jexster - 9/21/2007 2:35:53 PM

    And the Krony Kapitalist Korruption just keeps on keeping on


    Most people think that the United States is the lead partner in Bush's bullshit "coalition of the willing"

    Not so. 180,000 mercenary troops in Iraq are. The holy troops that the GOP hypocrites whine about supporting and then grind them into the sand....only 160,000


    The infamous Blackwater is now under Congressional investigation.

    Now even the State Department is looking into the sewer

    Needless to say, Blackwater Inc are major Bush supporters

    20604. jexster - 9/21/2007 2:36:53 PM

    Those RNC talking points about the Worst Congress ever?

    You be sure and keep whining TD

    20605. jexster - 9/21/2007 6:45:04 PM

    Chaos at the NRCC - Gives Dems a Boner!


    GOP House leader John Boehner -- last seen saying that the loss of American lives in Iraq is a "small price" to pay for realizing Bush's vision in Iraq -- is upset with the "mismanagement" of the NRCC and is locked in a struggle for control over it with NRCC chief Tom Cole, according to a new report.

    The Politico's John Bresnahan and Patrick O'Connor have the story. It's a good yarn, complete with shouting matches and hissy fits. The story is a reminder of just how bleak the 2008 electoral landscape looks for the GOP -- and the depth of denial about this that's reigning at the NRCC right now.....



    GrandOldPigpile in the toilet....

    20606. jexster - 9/21/2007 8:20:00 PM

    Hey TD..that new job of yours wouldn't happen to be with the NRCC??



    Just thought I'd ask. These are the same nut jobs who think Bush is winning in Iraq - the Hanoi John "No Surrender" crowd

    20607. jexster - 9/21/2007 9:19:08 PM

    The Grand Old PigPile is flushed


    Smit Smites GOP





    20608. jexster - 9/21/2007 10:13:21 PM

    The New Political Correctness:

    Fatuous Fatwahs of the Crackpot Conservatives





    How Dare You!

    Michael Kinsley

    20609. jexster - 9/22/2007 12:53:43 PM

    Breakout the cots, order up the pizza

    Message # 20554

    Beat the New York Times to it

    In Search of Manly Men: Let the GOP Filibuster

    20610. jexster - 9/23/2007 10:58:22 AM

    Here's one TD and I both can get behind!


    so to speak


    Pardon Poor Old Larry Craig

    20611. judithathome - 9/23/2007 1:12:49 PM

    Video from Rachel Maddow, covering the "Value Voters" debate: YouTube link

    Please listen to her reamrks on what would have happened had the Dems changed the words to "God Bless America" and had it performed by a choir before a debate...of course, they wouldn't be batshit crazy enough to do that but the main stream media would have been all over it...unlike they were with the Values Candidates.

    20612. jexster - 9/23/2007 2:29:28 PM

    Huckabee don't need to come to ya Judith

    Huckabee's with ya Arky

    I heart Huckabees

    Free Larry Craig

    20613. jexster - 9/23/2007 6:31:32 PM

    Not ANOTHER do-over! This is turning into some kind of Reality TV show

    The Hillary Rod Ham Experience
    #1 - Sponsor Great Health Care Debacle 1993



    WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton on Sunday defended her plan for universal health care and insisted she won't repeat the mistakes that doomed her earlier effort to cover millions of people when she was first lady.

    Fools say that they learn by experience. I prefer to profit by others' experience.
    Otto von Bismarck

    20614. jexster - 9/23/2007 8:40:11 PM

    Just in time for a Crimmus recess filibuster


    This time, keep em talking til Santa comes to town

    Bush to Ask for Another $195 Billion for War

    And veto child health coverage to pay for it or about 1/2 day of it

    20615. concerned - 9/24/2007 11:16:46 AM

    More BDS on parade: Boston Globe Fifth Columnist accuses GWB of 'desecrating' 9/11 site

    20616. jexster - 9/24/2007 11:31:54 AM

    Old news




    He climbed on the bodies so everyone could hear his BushWar lies...he's desecrated the site since 9/12 at least once a year

    20617. jexster - 9/24/2007 11:32:59 AM

    HUELGA!

    UAW strikes to save Wonk's benefits

    20618. jexster - 9/24/2007 12:11:49 PM

    Grand Old Pigpile About to Pay the Piper for Decades of Race Baiting

    20619. concerned - 9/24/2007 12:22:12 PM

    Re. 20616 -

    Who are those people next to him, jexster?

    20620. jexster - 9/24/2007 12:25:48 PM

    Those are the rescue workers he and Rudy fuckt. Used them too..used you!

    They'll use anything

    Ahmadinejad, It Turns Out, Is Just Like Us; Welcome To Your America

    With all the media attention being paid to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's visit to America, it's surprising that no one has pointed out the many curious similarities that should make him feel right at home. Note that all quotes come from Wikipedia.

    *

    • Ahmadeinjad has said that "I will only accept something as truth if I am actually convinced of it." When President Bush heard that, he said "Wait a minute, that's my line!"

    • In a secret report specifically investigating whether or not Ahmadinejad was involved in hostage-taking at the American Embassy, the CIA declared this identification "Not proven." Here, Ahmadinejad has much in common with the many Americans who've been investigated by the CIA, and about whom the agency hasn't been able to prove anything, either.

    • Ahmadinejad believes that wealthy Jews run the world. Billionaire Mayor and potential presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg was at the synagogue and unable to comment

    • Even though he is "the highest directly elected official in Iran, he has less power than the Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khameni." Our highest directly elected official, President Bush, also must kiss the ass of religious extremists.''

    • In August 2007, Ahmadinejad gave his approval for Oliver Stone to make a biopic film of him. Not to be outdone, President Bush has greenlighted an authorized film of his life to be directed by Quentin Tarrantino.

    • Even after his election, "Ahmadinejad continued living in a simple apartment flat and eating meals brought from home, to his office. Both of these traits contributed to his widespread support amongst the poorer classes." Similarly, John Edwards has promised to continue to bring his $400 haircuts to his office even after his election.

    • His campaign motto when he ran for President was "It's possible and we can do it," displaying the same desperate lack of imagination as American presidential candidates.

    • "His critics include some of the conservatives who helped him win the 2005 presidential elections." Arlen Specter, Chuck Hagel, John Warner and Susan Collins refused to comment.

    • "In his blog, Ahmadinejad described his reaction to the incident {when he requested that student protestors not be questioned or disturbed} as "a feeling of joy" because of the freedom that people enjoyed after the revolution." Note that Ahmadinejad, like millions of Americans, actually has a blog, in which he has also blamed his unhealthy fixation on Jessica Alba on the five-member United Nations Security Council.

    • "Some critics have alleged that President Ahmadinejad is becoming increasingly unpopular at home for spending too much time criticizing the United States and not enough time reforming the nation's stagnant economy." See. Tehran and D.C. are closer than anybody thought.

    20621. jexster - 9/24/2007 12:30:21 PM

    Death Bed Conversion

    McCain a Babdiss???


    for votes in the deep South, John McCain dismisses his lifelong Episcopal background and declares himself a Baptist. Why?

    I wonder


    Rt. Rev. Eugene Robinson, first openly gay Anglican bishop

    20622. jexster - 9/24/2007 1:00:12 PM

    Bush: Obama a Lazy Negro

    As you can see in our feature story over on the right, the White House's new line is that Barack Obama may be too "intellectually lazy" to run a serious presidential campaign let alone be President of the United States.

    And don't think this was a stray comment.

    The RNC just shot off an email building on the slur. With the headline "Razzle Dazzle", the email continues the theme that Obama is just another black fancy-pants with a slick smile and nice turn of phrase but either without the candle-power or stick-to-it-iveness to actually get things done.

    "Chicago Star Obama Continues His All Show, No Substance Campaign With Event On Broadway," the email begins.

    What to expect next out of the RNC? Obama would be a better singer and tap dancer than president.

    --Josh Marshall


    Not only can he tap dance, he's pretty fair with a basketball too

    20623. jexster - 9/24/2007 1:50:36 PM

    Conquering Hero!

    Mahmoud got a rousing welcome at Columbia.
    Bush would too I'm sure.

    He should try it

    20624. jexster - 9/24/2007 2:56:21 PM

    Rudy Giuliani - Betrayal of Trust


    20625. Max Macks - 9/24/2007 3:25:14 PM

    Re Iranian Pres. Ahmadinejad

    typically most of the protest comes from the Jewish
    persecutors of Palestinians.

    this is what he said, I wonder how or even IF it will
    be rported in the Press


    Protesters also assembled at Columbia, where President Lee Bollinger promised to grill Ahmadinejad on subjects such as human rights, the Holocaust and Iran's disputed nuclear program. The Iranian leader previously has called the Holocaust ``a myth'' and called for Israel to be ``wiped off the map.''

    He told the National Press Club that his questioning of the Holocaust was based on his concern that it was used to justify Israeli oppression of the Palestinians.

    ``Granted that the Holocaust is a reality ... Why is it that the Palestinian people should be displaced?'' he said. ``Why are they paying the damage by giving up their land?''

    At Columbia,

    20626. jexster - 9/24/2007 3:34:27 PM

    The guy's a mess but you can be damn sure of one thing...He's got more balls than all of Bushville combined

    20627. jexster - 9/24/2007 5:06:29 PM

    Juan Cole
    Turning Ahmadinejad into public enemy No. 1


    Demonizing the Iranian president and making his visit to New York seem controversial are all part of the neoconservative push for yet another war.


    And Hillary plays right along. Learn from her experience folks. She co-sponsored the Iraq Debacle for four years. That is before her experience told her she couldn't win the nomination without a "do-over"

    20628. jexster - 9/24/2007 7:11:25 PM

    "In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country. We do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who told you that we have it."

    None in the GrandOldPigpile either

    20629. Max Macks - 9/24/2007 7:41:27 PM

    thanks for that link to Juan Cole

    I just saw on CN Ahmadinejad at some US Press
    club.
    he was well spoken ( via translation) and had
    a nice smile
    >L>>I was surprised .

    20630. jexster - 9/24/2007 8:46:23 PM

    He didn't have horns?

    And he rid Iran of all the homosexuals!

    20631. concerned - 9/24/2007 10:32:39 PM

    Re. 20629 -


    He was picked for his nice smile and well spokenness. I'm sure the Iranian Mullahs will be glad to learn you were suitably impressed.

    20632. jexster - 9/24/2007 11:07:24 PM

    When's Bush going to speak at Columbia?

    20633. robertjayb - 9/24/2007 11:08:36 PM

    Bush fullfills Mencken's prophecy---Joe Galloway0

    On July 26, 1920, the acerbic and cranky scribe wrote in The Baltimore Sun: " . . . all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily (and) adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    My late good buddy Leon Daniel, a wire service legend for 40 years at United Press International, dredged up that Mencken quote several years ago and found that it was a perfect fit for George W. Bush, The Decider. MSNBC's Keith Olberman highlighted the same quote this week. A tip of the hat to both of them, and to Mencken.


    20634. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/24/2007 11:57:33 PM

    In that case I deserve a tip of the hat too because I posted that Mencken quote on my website and in this very thread three weeks ago. Why do I bother with this place?

    TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/6/2007 9:44:52 PM

    Message # 20344 in thread 155

    20635. winstonsmith - 9/25/2007 12:37:27 AM

    I am sorry to say that it is really looking like Hillary will win the primary. If this comes to pass, is there any way Obama would accept the VP spot on her ticket?

    It's not what I want but I think the ticket would be more palatable with him on it.

    20636. jexster - 9/25/2007 7:25:33 AM

    I don't know Wiz..You said it was Mark Twain!

    Tip of the hat nonetheless...we got what we deserved after all!


    Where's mine now???




    I feel your pain Wiz but look on the bright side. We could be Moronic Legionnaires like TD..they're in pretty sorry shape

    20637. jexster - 9/25/2007 7:31:53 AM

    Don't believe it Winston. Sure Hillary's the favorite but Obama has more money and more rank and file excitement. He's also stronger with independents and in most states, the Dem primary is where those voters are headed (in CA it is the only place - Republicans don't allow it)

    I ain't predicting the outcome but remember that delegates are awarded proportionately to every candidate carrying 15% or so or better by congressional district.

    Hillary stuck at 40% or so four months before 2/5 is beatable, and a brokered convention is not out of the question (though given her edge among party hacks, she probably has the advantage there!)

    Hillary wants you to think she's unbeatable - that's why she gins up these media blitzes.


    Obama isn't running for VP....

    20638. jexster - 9/25/2007 7:53:53 AM

    You don't always get what you want...


    This is getting scary. I find myself agreeing with Pat Buchanan almost all the time. I've said this for years now


    Of course, I just didn't come up with it out of thin air. Readily available crackpots like Concerned bring the point home oh so...well pointedly


    Infantile Nation
    by Patrick J. Buchanan


    Does this generation possess the gravitas to lead the world?

    Considering the hysteria that greeted the request of Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to lay a wreath at Ground Zero, the answer is no.



    Hillary bellowed and blustered - how predictable. But Obama he promised to tell you what you need not what you want to hear. He reiterated his commitment to meet with Ahmadinejad as President

    20639. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/25/2007 9:10:20 AM

    20636. jexster - 9/25/2007 7:25:33 AM

    I don't know Wiz..You said it was Mark Twain!

    Tip of the hat nonetheless...we got what we deserved after all!

    Where's mine now???


    I self-corrected the Twain misquote instantly and if there had been an edit function, it would't have mattered.

    Your obcession with these gangsters has been prescient quite often, but what good does it do with so many apathetic sheep in this country?

    Nevertheless . . .


    20640. concerned - 9/25/2007 10:44:21 AM

    jexster, the consummate treasonous whackjob, is projecting here when he refers to me.

    20641. jexster - 9/25/2007 11:18:19 AM

    baa..baa..baa..baa

    20642. concerned - 9/25/2007 11:40:21 AM

    I'm sorry. I should have said 'seditious', not 'treasonous'. I'm not some whackjob.

    20643. jexster - 9/25/2007 11:53:12 AM

    Now there we can agree!

    20644. jexster - 9/25/2007 12:23:19 PM

    Worst Congress Ever!

    GOP expects to lose more House seats


    By: JOSH KRAUSHAAR
    GOP braces for repercussions of wave of retirements, ongoing scandals and gloomy fundraising forecasts.

    20645. Max Macks - 9/25/2007 2:43:14 PM

    Hillary will never get elected
    can't the Demorats realize that
    they seem to pick nice folks but not those
    who will win an election.

    20646. jexster - 9/25/2007 3:37:01 PM

    Obama Rumored Over $30 Million for Third Quarter

    20647. jexster - 9/25/2007 3:58:26 PM

    The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy
    Chapter One
    John Mearsheimer, Steven Walt

    20648. jexster - 9/25/2007 4:16:15 PM

    Hey Max..You see that article in the Chron this am about how Bush tried to kill California's Climate Law?


    The Truth Comes Out just as Bush is trying to con world leaders at the UN that he is serious about climate control

    Getting harder and harder to keep the lies straight

    Just ask Concerned

    20649. jexster - 9/25/2007 4:18:58 PM

    Hillary might make it Max - especially if she picks Evan Bayh as running mate



    Secret death democratic death wish or secret plan?

    I mean that would be the most boring ticket since Gore/Mentum

    20650. jexster - 9/25/2007 4:48:47 PM

    Worst Congress Ever!
    Grim and Grimmer for the Pigpile People




    Live by the Bush
    Burn with the Bush

    20651. jexster - 9/25/2007 4:52:57 PM




    The rest of em might as well be free too

    Join Larry Craig in the nearest public toilet

    20652. jexster - 9/25/2007 5:22:07 PM

    Be there Max or be square!


    Obama For America Northern California Headquarters Opening

    The HQ opening party will be this Sunday, September 30th at 1:00 PM.
    WHERE: 436 14th Street, 3rd Floor - directly in front of the 14th Street exit of the Oakland City Center BART station, between Broadway and Franklin.

    20653. jexster - 9/25/2007 5:38:19 PM

    Cunnilingus Rice and The Great Emancipator


    NEW YORK - Slain al-Qaida in Iraq chief Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was a "diabolically brilliant" war tactician, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said, likening the terror commander to Civil War generals Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant.


    I think they're drinking big time in the Bush House...or maybe Bush has taken to crack cocaine.

    20654. jexster - 9/25/2007 5:50:38 PM

    The Mencken Prophecy

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - How do you keep a leader as verbally gaffe-prone as U.S. President George W. Bush from making even more slips of the tongue?


    When Bush addressed the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday, the White House inadvertently showed exactly how -- with a phonetic pronunciation guide on the teleprompter to get him past troublesome names of countries and world leaders.

    The White House was left scrambling to explain after a marked-up draft of Bush's speech popped up briefly on the U.N. Web site as he delivered his remarks, giving a rare glimpse of the special guidance he gets for major addresses.

    It included phonetic spellings for French President Nicolas Sarkozy (sar-KO-zee), a friend, and Zimbabwe leader Robert Mugabe (moo-GAH-bee), a target of U.S. human rights criticism.



    20655. robertjayb - 9/25/2007 6:32:19 PM

    V-22 Osprey deployed to Iraq...

    WASHINGTON — The first combat squadron of tilt-rotor V-22 Ospreys has been quietly deployed to Iraq, ushering a new form of aerial technology into 21st Century warfare.

    A Marine Corps aviation squadron and 10 Ospreys left for Iraq on Monday aboard the U.S.S. Wasp, a small Navy aircraft carrier known as an amphibious assault ship, said Marine Corps spokesman Maj. Eric Dent.


    20656. jexster - 9/25/2007 7:17:44 PM

    That'll make all the difference!

    Meanwhile back on planet Earth, the man who led the design team for the US Military's assault rifle the M-16, says that if he had a son in Iraq, he'd give him an AK-47 (ak-74 upgrade)

    20657. jexster - 9/25/2007 7:26:31 PM

    Stop in the Name of Love!

    Cunnilingus Rice Attempted to Obstruct Investigation into Iraq Corruption

    20658. jexster - 9/25/2007 7:30:36 PM

    AK-74

    20659. jexster - 9/25/2007 8:06:31 PM

    Hitting the White Powder Again???

    Olbermann reports that Bush followed up his RodHam Victory Memo, sending backchannel advice to Brunhilde on how to stay in Iraq.

    I think he's off the wagon and hitting the white powder again but at least he was lucid enough to choose his Debacle Co-sponsor

    20660. winstonsmith - 9/25/2007 10:17:48 PM

    re 20637

    Thanks Jex,

    I continue to support Obama and am about to send him some more money. I still fear that the Dems may make a stupid choice in the primary.

    20661. jexster - 9/26/2007 12:20:28 PM

    Me too! The Clinton Machine is powerful, awesome even



    20662. jexster - 9/26/2007 12:22:22 PM

    Rumors about that Obama's raised 30 million this quarter. Some think it could be Dillary Disinformation designed to inflate the expectation but it is reasonable...Hell the Oprah weekend between SF Portland Santa Barbara he raised 5 million in 2 days

    20663. jexster - 9/26/2007 12:23:42 PM

    US Soldier to Return Iraq Medals in Protest

    20664. concerned - 9/26/2007 12:34:00 PM

    From OneCosmos:

    The Patterned Irrationality of the Left

    In the unconscious mind, where symmetrical logic rules the night, the stronger the emotion one is feeling, the more "symmetrical deductions" are likely to occur.

    For example, as Bomford writes, on a deep unconscious level, "one who hates has to believe that his or her hatred is returned." Note that this is a logical operation, only based upon a different sort of logic. This logic is no doubt the source of the psychotic fear of Israel in the Islamic world. Their unconscious hatred is so profound that it simultaneously reverses the relation, so that they can't help perceiving that Israel hates them. But Israelis just want to shop, raise their families, or read the Torah. They couldn't care less about Muslims, except to the extent that bloodthirsty Muslim barbarians harbor murderous rage toward them.

    It's fine to hate evil, but in the Islamic world, what is hated is transformed into evil. Something is not hated because it is evil, but evil because it is hated. One could say the same of the left, which habitually fears what it eternally hates. The left cannot be comprehended unless one appreciates the extent of their unbound hatred. Once this is grasped, what seems illogical is suddenly seen to obey the dictates of symmetrical logic. For example, the unconscious feeling that I hate America and want us to lose in Iraq is transformed to General Petraeus is a traitor, or I am a racist becomes America is racist, or I am unbearably envious becomes the wealthy are engaged in class warfare against me!

    Another characteristic of the unconscious is that it is timeless, in the sense that it can reverse temporal relations. For example, in the unconscious mind, if A is the cause of B, B can also be the cause of A. Thus, "before" and "after" become meaningless. Therefore, although we were inexcusably attacked by Islamists on 9-11, within minutes, leftists were saying that the real reason for the attack was that we had done something to offend Muslims.

    Likewise, throughout the Cold War, leftist scholars wrote "revisionist" histories, in which the United States was the cause of the Cold War, or at least equally responsible for it. You will notice that there are no conservative revisionists who write, for example, that blacks were the cause of their own lynching, or that Japanese Americans were the cause of their own internment. You can only think in this manner if you are pathologically under the sway of unconscious symmetrical logic.

    Also in the unconscious mind, there is no distinction between the memory of something that actually occurred vs. the memory of a fantasy. Here we can understand how and why the left is so prone to mythologizing the past, as their fantasies are mingled with reality.

    Thus, no amount of reality and asymmetrical logic will ever convince them that FDR made the Great Depression worse, not better, or that the black family only began to disintegrate after the imposition of all the "Great Society" programs of the mid to late '60s. No amount of logic could convince a leftist that his policies harm the "little guy," since his ruling myth, in the face of all evidence to the contrary, is that he is here to rescue the hapless little guy (for whom the leftist always feels rich contempt in the unconscious mind, contempt which only seeps out everywhere).

    One thing you will notice about the left is that they are passionate. Because the left is guided by feelings and intentions, they are blind to the results of their actions. If their feelings are infinitely good, then in the unconscious mind, the results must also be infinitely good.

    As I have written before, this is a religious passion in the absence of religion, so it has no traditional means to structure and channel it. Just as religion partakes of symmetrical logic in an adaptive way (i.e., the meek shall inherit the earth, the Golden Rule, humans are made in the image of the Creator, etc.), leftists do so in a terribly unhealthy way. That is, because of the intensity of their feelings, these feelings reach way down into the symmetrical realm, with no way to structure or make sense of them. This is why you always see so much highly charged, "unfiltered" unconscious material coming out of the left. To borrow a metaphor from someone, reading dailykos or huffington post is like taking a ride through a sewer in a glass bottom boat.

    As Bomford writes, the dictates of symmetrical logic mean that deductions "do not follow the path of fact, but of feeling or emotion." And although this inevitably leads to "crazy" deductions based upon a chain of feelings, in a sense, it is much more "free" than asymmetrical, Aristotelian logic. For example, the latter "has a deterministic feel. That is to say, it never delivers a new truth, though it may deliver truths that had not been clear before. Everything is already 'there' in the premises."

    Not so symmetrical logic, which has considerably more freedom to "deduce." It can easily arrive at patent falsehoods while still obeying its own logic. For example, the knuckleheads at Columbia University believe that having a genocidal sociopath speak on their campus is an instance of defending "freedom of speech." I would agree, but only in a psychotically cluelessidal way, rooted in symmetrical logic. By the standards of normal logic, it makes no sense whatsoever. It's crazy.

    One of the most fascinating aspects of unconscious logic is the way it can shift attributes from agent to agent. For example, as mentioned above, it is the work of a moment for a leftist to turn a perpetrator into a victim and a victim into a perpetrator, based upon the emotional needs of the day. For example, the standard leftist logic would be Larry Craig --> Homosexual --> Ultimate Victim. But place an "R" after the name, and the overriding logic becomes Republican --> Homophobic Victimizer --> Burn him!

    Likewise, the normal train of leftist logic would be ROTC --> Don't ask, Don't tell policy --> Homophobia --> Get off our campus, fascists! But Ahmadinejad -- whose government's policy toward homosexuals is "don't tell, because we'll bury you alive" -- is given a pass because he shares the left's passionate hatred of America and of President Bush. Their interests converge in the deep, symmetrical unconscious. Ironically, it is obvious that Ahmadinejad is much more conscious of this than the left to which his manipulative talking points are tailored. You might say that he is consciously speaking to the left's unconscious, pushing every one of their happy buttons he can think of.

    Don't believe me?

    Daily Kos: 45% Want Ahmadinejad As US President


    jexster: the poster child of LW irrationality

    20665. jexster - 9/26/2007 12:45:17 PM

    Kareem Ramadan to you


    Must make you feel about two feet tall...humiliated that a bunch of uncivilized wretched Muslims with AK47's have defeated the WarLord Bush - who hasn't got the balls to speak at Columbia! - in each of the five wars he has started during his disastrous reign

    Worse still, he has totally wrecked US ground armies to the point where he couldn't invade Qatar if Osama built a villa there

    20666. jexster - 9/26/2007 12:47:09 PM

    Don't blame me

    Look in the mirror


    Night of Power comes October 9

    Introduction
    This surat is titled Surat Al-Qadr meaning 'The night of power'. It is the 97th surat from the 114 contained in the Holy Quraan. Said to be revealed in Makkah, some hold the opinion that it was revealed in Madinah. The subject-matter is the Night of Power (or Honour), in which Revelation came down to the Prophet Peace and Blessings be upon him for the first through the Angel Jibrail (Gabriel)
    Back

    "We have indeed revealed this in the 'Night of Power'"

    One of the most meritous aspects of Islam fall in one of the last 5 odd nights of the Holy month of Ramadhan. It is the most blessed night of the year. Reference here is made to the fact that on this special night the Holy Quraan was revealed. One reason this night is referred to as the Night of Power is due to the increase in the amount of reward gained by worship performed on this particular night in comparison to any other throughout the whole year.
    Back

    "And what will explain to you what the night of power is?"

    The question being asked here is: "Have you any knowledge as to how great and important this night is, and to the favours and bounties which are placed within the Night of Power"?
    Back

    "The Night of Power is better than a thousand months"

    This verse means that the worship performed in this night brings more reward than the worship performed in a thousand months, but how much more better? Allah is such a great being that anything is possible from his behalf. "A thousand" must be taken in an indefinite sense; meaning a very long period of time. This does not refer to our ideas of time, but to "timeless Time".
    Back

    "Therein come down The Angels and the Spirit By Allah's permission, on every errand"

    The Angels descend by Allah's permission and the Spirit mentioned here is usually understood to be the angel Gabriel
    Back

    "Peace!...This until the rise of Morn!"

    When the Night of spiritual darkness is dissipated by the glory of Allah, a wonderful peace and sense of security arise in the soul, and this lasts on until this life closes, and the glorious day of the new world dawns, when everything will be on a different plane, and the chequered nights and days of this world will be even less than a dream.

    20667. concerned - 9/26/2007 1:00:47 PM

    Re. 20665 -

    Another good example of the Left's patterned irrationality in this post.

    20668. jexster - 9/26/2007 1:36:41 PM

    Let's make it simple so even you can understand

    "You Bush and what army" gonna fight your crusade

    20669. jexster - 9/26/2007 1:36:55 PM

    Irrational

    You bet

    20670. jexster - 9/26/2007 1:38:24 PM

    There she goes again

    Brunehilde Votes YES on Lieberman/Kyl Iran Resolution


    She Co-Sponsored the Greatest Strategic Disaster in US History and supported Bush for four years until she decided to run for president

    Clinton is a charter member of the Democratic Wing of the War Party and of this there can be no doubt

    Let this race be about the experience of the Democratic Candidates

    20671. jexster - 9/26/2007 1:59:31 PM

    Give Em Hell Larry!

    Craig Now Refuses to Say Whether He'll Resign






    20672. Max Macks - 9/26/2007 2:21:15 PM

    Thanks for that post about how Bush
    gets his speeches in phonetic notes

    have wondered in the few mintues that I can
    tolerate seeing his jerky facial movments
    and voice on Lehr News hour
    how he could speak as coherently as he seemed to

    sure would like to see a copy of the teleprompter
    speech.

    20673. concerned - 9/26/2007 2:46:05 PM

    Another good passage from OneCosmos about the Leftist mentality:

    I think we can see this same dynamic in the dysfunctional relationship between the left -- which is so obviously like a child or hysterical (the operative word is hysterical) female -- and the right, which too often deals with the left as if mere logic will satisfy them. It doesn't work and it won't work, as anyone who's tried to have a rational conversation with a leftist knows. In their shrill paranoia, narcissism, and hysteria, it's as if the left is crying out in pain, so that their literal words are completely unimportant. If it were a micro-relationship, we'd know how to deal with them.

    But in the macro realm, how does one respond to a whole psychoclass of histrionic girly men? (And please keep in mind that we are specifically talking about a form of dysfunctional feminized consciousness, not the normal or healthy variety. A radical feminist is not a normal woman, any more than Dennis Kucinich is a normal man.) In fact, to be fair, the left is mainly composed of hysterical women (of both sexes) and of adolescent boys and girls. In both cases, there is a developmental arrest, the failure to become a proper man or woman. Indeed, this is one of the premises of leftism, which rejects any concept of a spiritual telos to human psychological growth. Rather, all is relative, so that no way of living or being is superior to any other.

    20674. jexster - 9/26/2007 3:34:40 PM

    Pretty authoritative there TD.


    [I think he's lost his mind - what little there was of it]

    Feel his pain

    20675. jexster - 9/26/2007 3:35:54 PM

    Bush Promised Democracy, Freedom, Peace, Flowers and Candy


    Myanmar, Somalia, and the Nation formerly known as Iraq Top Most Corrupt Countries List

    20676. jexster - 9/26/2007 3:37:42 PM

    Worst Congress Ever
    Another GOP Congressmen Retires

    20677. jexster - 9/26/2007 3:39:56 PM

    I think we need Wizzer here

    I think we need a virtual intervention

    I fear that if we do not act soon, the police will find TD on some sleazy street corner blubbering incoherently about Klowntoon, Kucinich, Sharpton and nefarious Lefties

    20678. jexster - 9/26/2007 3:48:53 PM

    Wounded Iraq War Vets Still Getting Treated Like Shit

    20679. concerned - 9/26/2007 4:02:15 PM

    jexster needs a new private name for Iraq. Any suggestions?

    20680. jexster - 9/26/2007 5:21:59 PM

    Mess-O-Potamia

    20681. jexster - 9/26/2007 6:42:55 PM

    Maybe he should move to Iran


    CheneyBushDumbsfeld darling Gen Peter Pan Pace Says Homosexuality is "Immoral"


    America love it or leave it

    20682. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/26/2007 11:17:59 PM

    When it comes to Pavlov's Dopes, like connie, you're on your own, jexster.

    20683. jexster - 9/27/2007 6:11:45 AM

    Conspiracy to Wage Agressive War:
    Bush Rice Anza Caught on Tape

    Spanish Newspaper Publishes Transcript

    20684. jexster - 9/27/2007 6:31:56 AM

    Hillary Can be Stopped
    Peaking Now?

    Real Clear Politics

    20685. Max Macks - 9/27/2007 1:15:51 PM

    anyone see Paul Solomon on Lehr news
    about the fautls of the M-16/ M4
    rife American troops are still using
    which mis fire often and are inferior to
    the AK-47

    and governemnet contractors?

    20686. jexster - 9/27/2007 1:25:49 PM

    Yeah linked above there Max!!!


    El Pais, Spain's number 1 daily newspaper, has a scoop a transcript of a meeting between Bush and Jose Maria Aznar proving that Bush lied us into war.

    The Aznar Tapes

    20687. jexster - 9/27/2007 2:53:18 PM

    Chicken Shit Litte Ass Kisser

    Same as he ever was



    20688. jexster - 9/27/2007 4:20:13 PM

    Is This the Best Robert and Judith Can Come Up With?

    Manuel is headed for France last I heard



    TX-SEN
    Sep 27 Research 2000
    Cornyn (R) 51%, Noriega (D) 35%

    That man is the second dumbest Texican I've ever seen.


    Won't be too soon, the day we return that flat wasteland of phonies and martial misfits back to Mexico

    20689. jexster - 9/27/2007 5:05:53 PM

    Bush Krony Kapitalism in Action


    Led to Bush's Little Stalingrad - Fallujah
    Bush's crony butchers - Blackwater USA



    And you paid at least 4 times what you're paying the holy troops




    So just give him 200 billion more and veto health care for kids

    20690. jexster - 9/27/2007 6:00:55 PM

    No Child Left Behind

    Childrens Do Learn



    Shouldn't that be "chirrens"?

    20691. jexster - 9/27/2007 6:15:39 PM

    In his first appearance as Army chief of staff, Casey told the House Armed Services Committee that the Army is "out of balance" and "the current demand for our forces exceeds the sustainable supply. We are consumed with meeting the demands of the current fight and are unable to provide ready forces as rapidly as necessary for other potential contingencies."


    The Army Bush Broke

    20692. jexster - 9/27/2007 6:33:24 PM

    Worst Congress Ever


    Doolittle and 5 Aides Received Grand Jury Subpoenas in Abramoff Probe

    20693. jexster - 9/27/2007 9:33:32 PM

    24,000 in Washington Square


    20694. jexster - 9/28/2007 1:09:56 PM

    Bout sums it up


    From BushVille's perspective, the problem is - BUSH


    Stop the friggin presses



    WASHINGTON - A small group of Republicans facing election fights next year have rallied around war legislation they think could unite the GOP: call for an end to U.S. combat in Iraq, but wait until President Bush is out of office.

    The legislation was deemed essentially a nonstarter by Democrats Friday and underscored the difficulty Congress has in striking a bipartisan compromise on the war. What attracts Democrats has repelled Republicans and vice versa, making it impossible so far to find a middle ground

    20695. jexster - 9/28/2007 1:26:38 PM

    O! Army Invades Billary Hill
    24,000 Hear Obama Draw Sharp Distinction's on Brunehilde's Turf


    And I can report that California is getting ready to rumble. We've set up the first statewide organization outside the early states and are opening our NoCali office on Sunday. In our district alone we have over 8,000 volunteer contacts, over 100,000 Statewide

    Held our first CD8 Campaign Council meeting last night..Pretty nifty shit





    20696. jexster - 9/28/2007 6:32:31 PM

    Sunday we're having our headquarters opening party

    Sunday two hours later right outside our window, Shrillary's going to be shrieking

    20697. jexster - 9/29/2007 8:38:07 PM

    The Way of the Whigs???

    Leading indicators point down for GOP





    John we will rule forever
    Mike DeNunzio
    Chairman SF County GOP
    November 2004

    Proving once again that two years is an eternity in politics

    20698. jexster - 9/29/2007 10:02:00 PM

    Get ready. We've been watching this one develop for a while. Five wars, five losses. Karzai wants to put the Taliban in the government and Iraq - well it no longer exists.

    So what oh what is a War Party to do???

    Just what they did with their Vietnam disaster. What they always do when they lose a war.

    Five wars Five Losses


    The Coming Dolchstoss Campaign



    Having exposed their country to the ignominy of certain defeat in Iraq, the Bush Administration and its neoconservative allies are seeking to salvage their crumbling reputations by blaming their critics for the catastrophe their policies have wrought. We are witnessing the foundation for a post-Iraq "stab in the back" campaign.





    20699. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 9/29/2007 11:29:49 PM

    Mario Cuomo on Hardball:

    Let’s not do what we did before and wind up apologizing for our resolutions and saying we’re sorry. Now remember, the Founding Fathers gave the powers to declare war to the Congress. That power cannot be delegated to the President. You can’t adopt a resolution and say well, the Founding Fathers wanted us to do it, but it’s too heavy a lift for us, so we empower you, Mr. President, if you feel like doing it, to do it.

    And my goodness, the President you’re talking about is the president who started a war with a mistaken context-assuming he was telling the truth, and I will-he was wrong about the reason for it, he was wrong about complicity, he was wrong about how many troops we needed, he was wrong about how we would be greeted when we got there, he was wrong about the civil war, wrong about how much it would cost, wrong about how long it would last and now you’re saying maybe he can start another war. It’s a mistake; this an opportunity for Democrats to show real leadership. And the presidential candidates should lead the way. And if they don’t, then the question is going to be when it comes to improvident war-making, why are you any better than Bush?

    20700. jexster - 9/30/2007 10:11:54 AM

    The Bums Rush Back to the Future
    Is Hillary Clinton the New Old Al Gore?

    By FRANK RICH

    THE Democrats can't lose the White House in 2008, can they?

    Some 13 months before Election Day, the race's dynamic seems immutable. Americans can't wait to evict the unpopular president and end his disastrous war. As the campaign's poll-tested phrasemaking constantly reminds us, voters crave change above all else. That means nearly any Democrat might do, even if the nominee isn't the first woman, black or Hispanic to lead a major party's ticket.

    The Republican field of aging white guys, meanwhile, gets flakier by the day. The front-runner has taken to cooing to his third wife over a cellphone in the middle of campaign speeches. His hottest challenger, the new "new Reagan," may have learned his lines for "Law & Order," but clearly needs cue cards on the stump. In Florida, even the most rudimentary details of red-hot local issues (drilling in the Everglades, Terri Schiavo) eluded him. The party's fund-raising is anemic. Its snubs of Hispanic and African-American voters kissed off essential swing states in the Sun Belt and moderate swing voters farther north.

    So nothing can go wrong for the Democrats. Can it?

    Of course it can, and not just because of the party's perennial penchant for cutting off its nose to spite its face. ....

    20701. Max Macks - 9/30/2007 2:42:34 PM

    Just read that that ass hole John Boltn

    is in England drummig up support for bombing Iran

    didn't know tht clown was still around

    20702. jexster - 9/30/2007 2:43:14 PM

    There's so much red meat on Millary my arteries clog just thinking about it.

    The Nepotism Tango
    By MAUREEN DOWD


    Maybe it’s fitting that a woman who first sashayed into the national consciousness with an equation — “two for the price of one” — may have her fate determined by the arithmetic of dynasty.

    The town is divided into two camps: those who think that, after 16 years of Hillary pushing herself forward, the public will get worn out and reject her, and those who think that, after 16 years of Hillary pushing herself forward, the public will get worn down and give in to her


    I'll have to take up tofu

    20703. jexster - 9/30/2007 6:27:28 PM

    Bolton's freelancing for the War Party whackos. He had concerned cackling about Syria's nuclear program

    They want a little Iran shock and awe but time's running out for the scum

    20704. jexster - 9/30/2007 6:28:45 PM

    Quotoe of 2007


    Maureen Dowd quoting
    TNR literary editor Leon Wieseltier

    20705. jexster - 9/30/2007 8:42:54 PM

    She's full o venom today!

    20706. jexster - 9/30/2007 9:16:53 PM

    Little Georgie's hittin the white powder again.

    I am sure he's drinking. Have you listened to any of his recent speeches

    Now Sy Hersh confirms that he wants a little fireworks show before he returns to the life of a simple cowboy...Going out with a bang..he's going to bomb Iran but not the non-existent nookolars..just whatever don't matter


    Sy Hersh:

    20707. thoughtful - 10/1/2007 1:02:18 PM

    This could make richard mellon scaife look like a piker. It's not bad enough that many people are so easily swayed by the likes of fox news and talk radio...now they're going to get "Freedom Watch".

    Founded this summer by a dozen wealthy conservatives, the nonprofit group is set apart from most advocacy groups by the immense wealth of its core group of benefactors, its intention to far outspend its rivals and its ambition to pursue a wide-ranging agenda. Its next target: Iran policy.

    Remember how bush sr got us into somalia just before he left office leaving the mess for wjc to clean up? How much you wanna make a bet that W will do the same for the next pres with iran...

    20708. jexster - 10/1/2007 3:33:20 PM

    Not a bet I'd take. The NeoCons are out beating the war drums big time. Time's running out for the scumbags

    20709. jexster - 10/1/2007 3:46:28 PM

    Chorus of Bush Advisers Seek Iran War

    20710. jexster - 10/1/2007 4:03:32 PM

    Israel Bush Poised for War on Iran


    A respected American paper posted a scoop this week: Vice President Dick Cheney, the King of Hawks, has thought up a Machiavellian scheme for an attack on Iran. Its main point: Israel will start by bombing an Iranian nuclear installation, Iran will respond by launching missiles at Israel, and this will serve as a pretext for an American attack on Iran.

    Far-fetched? Not really. It is rather like what happened in 1956.

    20711. arkymalarky - 10/1/2007 6:17:46 PM

    Why has Hillary not revealed what she raised this quarter?

    20712. jexster - 10/1/2007 7:15:00 PM

    I dunno..sandbagging?

    And what have you done for the Cause Arky? Say I know where you can find a major Caltrans dump of roadkill for that roadkill stew you like so much

    20713. jexster - 10/1/2007 9:22:33 PM

    Bush Hits Bottom
    Public Favors Democrats on Iraq

    Most Americans oppose fully funding Bush's $190 billion request for war, and majority support expansion of children's health insurance bill.



    And Congress approval is 4 points lower than Bush!

    TD should look at it this way.
    When you hit bottom, there's no place else to go but up. I'm serious. Stay out of Iran. Pray the Dems go with Shrillary, and the GOPigpile might have a half decent chance next year

    20714. arkymalarky - 10/1/2007 10:51:45 PM

    Hey, I'm in southern AR, but I'm not that close to Louisiana.

    20715. concerned - 10/3/2007 12:39:27 AM

    Senate Moronity Leader and full time phony Harry Reid blatantly mischaracterized Rush Limbaugh's calling Left Wing flake Jesse Macbeth a 'phony soldier'.

    After Reid the Rat's ridiculous 'million Iraqi death' gaffe, this is only further proof that he either has little conception of what reality is or no respect for it and his constituents.

    20716. concerned - 10/3/2007 12:40:45 AM

    constituents

    20717. concerned - 10/3/2007 12:44:25 AM

    And let us not forget 'phony war hero' Harkin.

    20718. concerned - 10/3/2007 12:49:54 AM

    Reid the 'Rat, Peloser and Harkin are the stuff of which single digit Congressional approval ratings are made.

    20719. concerned - 10/3/2007 12:53:41 AM

    Reid the 'Rat shows how much class he has (none) by lying about Rush Limbaugh.

    20720. jexster - 10/3/2007 1:26:29 AM

    I heard Limbaugh. "Phony soldier!" his words listen for yourself



    And for those who didn't get it the first time, his comment on this Vet's tv spot

    "Somebody strapped a suicide vest on him"

    His injuries were from a suicide bombing.


    But you're right. This is petty GOP stuff. The people want the Dems to end this war not pass stupid resolutions about nothing.

    Worst Congress ever - GOP Congressional approval - 27%
    Dems - 38%


    Listen for yourself

    Fat sack of shit. Talk about phony! He even cut out the colloquy from his Armed Forces Radio Net broadcast.

    20721. jexster - 10/3/2007 1:32:05 AM

    Phony Soldier Maj Gen John Batiste on the Phat Phony


    20722. jexster - 10/3/2007 1:33:43 AM

    20723. concerned - 10/3/2007 1:46:30 AM

    The phony soldier was convicted for lying about his war record.

    That good enough for you, jexster?

    20724. concerned - 10/3/2007 1:47:08 AM

    The phony soldier was convicted for lying about his war record.

    That good enough for you, jexster?

    20725. concerned - 10/3/2007 1:48:27 AM

    It would be, except that you're a liar too.

    20726. jexster - 10/3/2007 2:07:10 AM

    Bullshit

    "Phony soldiers"

    The ones that oppose dying for nothing


    In his own words ...right up thread

    20727. jexster - 10/3/2007 2:15:10 AM

    Media Matters

    During the September 26 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh called service members who advocate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq "phony soldiers." He made the comment while discussing with a caller a conversation he had with a previous caller, "Mike from Chicago," who said he "used to be military," and "believe[s] that we should pull out of Iraq." Limbaugh told the second caller, whom he identified as "Mike, this one from Olympia, Washington," that "[t]here's a lot" that people who favor U.S. withdrawal "don't understand" and that when asked why the United States should pull out, their only answer is, " 'Well, we just gotta bring the troops home.' ... 'Save the -- keeps the troops safe' or whatever," adding, "[I]t's not possible, intellectually, to follow these people." "Mike" from Olympia replied, "No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media." Limbaugh interjected, "The phony soldiers." The caller, who had earlier said, "I am a serving American military, in the Army," agreed, replying, "The phony soldiers."

    As you can see, Limbaugh responded to the firestorm on his website 1)by editing the transcript 2) Adding a totally superfluous diatribe about MacBeth which was not the subject at all. He made that up after the fact.

    CALLER: The phony soldiers. If you talk to any real soldier and they're proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they're willing to sacrifice for the country.

    RUSH: They joined to be in Iraq.

    RUSH: It's frustrating and maddening, and why they must be kept in the minority. I want to thank you, Mike, for calling. I appreciate it very much.

    20728. jexster - 10/3/2007 2:17:56 AM

    So what else is new? These cockroaches have been doing the same thing for 6 years now. Anyone who dares to say Bush has lost five wars and fathered the greatest strategic debacle in US history get the bums rush ..."Sedition!" "Traitor"


    Same old farts from a the same old GrandOldPigpile of gas bags and the Limbaugh Legion

    20729. jexster - 10/3/2007 2:27:58 AM

    The Phony Soldiers Transcript




    20730. jexster - 10/3/2007 2:30:23 AM

    January 25th ..referred to Vietnam Vet and war opponent Chuck Hagel as "Senator Betrayus"

    Limbaugh: VoteVets lied to soldier in ad, "strapp[ed] those lies to his belt," then sent him out "to walk into as many people" as he can (10/02/2007)

    20731. jexster - 10/3/2007 6:47:57 AM

    fter Reid the Rat's ridiculous 'million Iraqi death' gaffe, this is only further proof that he either has little conception of what reality is or no respect for it and his constituents.

    The Truth is a gaffe to the Moron Mind. A million dead in Iraq is as good an estimate as you will find. Iraqis aren't surprised. Polls work as well in Iraq as they do here. That's why there are 4 million refugees..about 1/6 of the population that can afford to leave has left

    Clinton +33, &+7 Obama's got to be relentless in the attack. Measured but relentless. The Clinton Machine is too formidable to run a polite campaign against them and have a chance of winning

    20732. jexster - 10/3/2007 7:14:01 AM

    Killary's Kackle

    8 years of that voice and that laugh.....people be stickin pins in their eardrums


    20733. robertjayb - 10/3/2007 10:55:29 AM

    * hides to veto child health bill

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush, in a confrontation with Congress, on Wednesday vetoed a bipartisan bill that would have dramatically expanded children's health insurance.
    ....................................................

    The White House sought as little attention as possible, with the president wielding his veto behind closed doors without any fanfare or news coverage.


    20734. concerned - 10/3/2007 11:14:32 AM

    If another jackass said that he conducted a poll that said 2 million Iraqis died because of the Iraq war, jexster would be braying the same lie in an instant, claiming that it's "as good an estimate as you will find".

    Moron.

    20735. concerned - 10/3/2007 11:17:20 AM

    This has to be the self referential quote of the year from the demented jexster:

    The Truth is a gaffe to the Moron Mind.

    20736. concerned - 10/3/2007 11:43:57 AM

    I woke up the water cooler crowd yesterday when somebody mentioned slavery reparations. I said that Democrats should pay any such reparations because they're the ones who owned the slaves in the first place. Fair's fair.

    20737. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/3/2007 12:40:03 PM

    Concerned- you and Rush Limbaugh make a lovely couple . . . of liars . . .

    20738. jexster - 10/3/2007 12:51:30 PM

    They aren't "jackasses" any more than Gallup are jackasses. They didn't report 2 million dead, they reported 1.2 million dead. They didn't report results that Bush liked, so instead of embracing the findings as Bush has done in the past

    They didn't make shit up. Bush and you make shit up. Why just like Limbaugh trying to rewrite his transcript after the fact of his big fat fart


    Phony soldiers of the Ole Gorey belong in a toilet with Larry Craig

    20739. concerned - 10/3/2007 12:52:47 PM

    'Course, you can't recall anything I actually 'lied' about, but you never let that stop your cheap shots before.

    20740. jexster - 10/3/2007 12:52:48 PM

    I agree. You oughta hear my "back to Africa" rant. But I won't share because people have threatened to report me to the Obama Campaign pohlees

    20741. concerned - 10/3/2007 12:57:39 PM

    Re. 20738 -

    Yes, they are 'jackasses'. They are also liars and idiots.

    Your problem is that you don't even know the difference. I'm a bit afriad you might hurt yourself given your diminished perception of reality. Maybe you should have your meds adjusted.

    20742. concerned - 10/3/2007 1:10:55 PM

    20739 was meant for Whipper of Cheapshots.

    20743. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/3/2007 2:43:08 PM

    Concern'd- Let me tell you how you lie. Like Limbaugh, you're only concerned with right vs. left and with right thinking vs. wrong (left) thinking, rather than the discernable consequences of bad patterns of thought and behavior.

    You overlook and never acknowledge the countless blunders and the horrifying outcomes of the Bush Administration's arrogant policies and ineptitude of everything that isn't political propaganda.

    These are the reflexive earmarks of a primitive and narrow-minded mentality--a mentality that flourishes on a self-deceit and delusion.

    Eric Hoffer once said: "it is not only more sensible but more humane to base social practice on the assumption that all motives are questionable and that in the long run social improvement is attained more readily by a concern with the quality of results than with the purity of motives."

    So, connie, I say this with no malice and no cheap shot in mind: You and Limbaugh lie about everything because you deceive yourselves with your misguided motivations and think you can't be wrong. If you really allowed yourselves to look at just the effect on America from all of those awful decisions and blunders, you couldn't live with it. Stop lying to yourself and wake up to the truth!

    20744. thoughtful - 10/3/2007 2:54:27 PM

    cognitive dissonance...too disturbing to some to open their eyes and see the facts.

    20745. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/3/2007 3:21:57 PM

    In a term, yes, bullseye!

    20746. thoughtful - 10/3/2007 3:59:09 PM

    I see a lot of that among my goper friends.

    20747. concerned - 10/3/2007 4:03:51 PM

    I think one of the worst things to happen to American society during the last 50 years is the breakup of the black family structure by Left Wing welfare policies.

    Another one of the worst things to happen to American society during the last 50 years was our do-nothing Left Wing directed HIV control policy. Result: 40,000,000 dead and counting worldwide. The idea that the AIDS virus was going to be the first virus ever to be curable by medication was totally ludicrous and could only have resulted from total ideological blindness and willful medical ignorance.

    And how about the Korean and Vietnam Wars, the worst US debacles in US history by far. Yep. Started by your fellow Democrats.

    These were not *just* awful decisions and blunders. They were among the worst decisions of any made during this time frame.

    I'm posting this in response to two of the biggest sufferers of cognitive dissonance in the Mote.

    20748. concerned - 10/3/2007 4:08:18 PM

    Let's not forget the Worst Congress in History and the Jimmuh Cahtuh, the worst president of the 20th Century.

    The Left Wing Signature Accomplishment in most any area one might check is things really going to hell.

    20749. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/3/2007 5:20:00 PM

    Concerned, you haven't even the awareness to be embarrassed for your barbaric mentality--but thank you for proving me so perceptive with your latest troglodyte spittle.

    20750. jexster - 10/3/2007 5:25:26 PM

    I hope that all Republicans have their heads as far up their asses as TD!

    We'll get a veto proof Senate, add 30 seats in the House and might even be condemned to 8 years of the Shrieking Shrew and her Cackle

    20751. jexster - 10/3/2007 5:25:44 PM

    20752. jexster - 10/3/2007 5:29:56 PM

    'Course, you can't recall anything I actually 'lied' about, but you never let that stop your cheap shots before.

    Try going up thread for starters

    Then I think you will find in Lies or Conflict(should rename Debacle) in theME...a compendium of archival evidence refuting your lie about your "reluctant" war support


    Shit I could be here for a month and still not complete the list.

    The better, easier task...list the times you've told the truth

    20754. jexster - 10/3/2007 5:54:59 PM

    If the Dems didn't have Bush and GOP lackey limbaugh brained dolts like TD, they'd have to rely on their own wits and they'd be up Larry Craig's crapper without a paddle

    Bush Veto Strategy Threatens Republicans

    20755. concerned - 10/3/2007 6:43:32 PM

    Looks like jexster fucked up the page formatting again. Way to go, jexster.

    Re. 20749 -

    'Barbaric'...?

    You sound like some effete dumbshit who's scared of being bitch slapped by reality.

    Confucius say:

    Lefty who goes with gut barf all over himself.

    20756. concerned - 10/3/2007 7:11:35 PM

    Re. 20751 -

    Just shows where the 'Rat's tiny heads are at. They don't have a worthwhile legislative agenda so they mug talk show hosts they don't like.

    20757. concerned - 10/3/2007 7:30:23 PM

    Rush Limbaugh ought to visit Congress and explain the First Amendment to the Constitution to slow learners like Hairy Reid the 'Rat.

    20758. jexster - 10/3/2007 7:39:27 PM

    The Limbaugh Lectures in Constitutional Law!

    Sounds like a plan! I say we Imus the fat fuck

    20759. thoughtful - 10/4/2007 4:22:32 PM

    what happened to the margins on this page???

    20760. concerned - 10/4/2007 4:24:10 PM

    They were jexstered.

    20761. thoughtful - 10/4/2007 4:24:40 PM

    From froomkin about the revelation that torture continues and has even been expanded to this day under the bush administration:

    Georgetown University law professor Marty Lederman blogs: "I am increasingly confident that when the history of the Bush Administration is written, this systematic violation of statutory and treaty-based law concerning fundamental war crimes and other horrific offenses will be seen as the blackest mark in our nation's recent history -- not only because of what was done, but because the programs were routinely sanctioned, on an ongoing basis, by numerous esteemed professionals -- lawyers, doctors, psychologists and government officers -- without whose approval such a systematized torture regime could not be sustained."

    That was also true about the nazis...that administration was run and sanctioned by the educated and the professional. Just further proof that brains and morals are not necessarily correlated.

    20762. concerned - 10/4/2007 4:36:12 PM

    Why does the Left love jerking themselves off so much by inappropriately comparing their political opponents to the Nazis (who were Left Wing Socialists)?

    20763. arkymalarky - 10/4/2007 5:50:24 PM

    Yeow! Not only are the margins crazy, but I read the last post and thought I'd mistakenly gone to the archives.

    20764. concerned - 10/4/2007 8:18:33 PM

    Phony Soldiers and Phony Senators

    Recently, at least 41 Democratic Senators, joined by a howling mob including George Soros’ Media Matters, sought to silence Rush Limbaugh because of his reference to “phony” anti war soldiers. Limbaugh’s comments, taken in context, referred to Jesse Macbeth, a confessed and convicted phony, whose faked but graphic war crimes confessions received far wider media notice than his later confession. He had been discharged in boot camp after 40 days of service.

    Macbeth follows a grand tradition of fake soldiers whose “war crimes” confessions have been used by the Left to slander the service of our troops. For example, Micah Ian Wright, author of the 2003 anti war best seller "You Back the Attack," was an Army Ranger and Combat veteran feted at USC’s Annenberg School and in media like the Washington Post until he was finally “outed” as a complete fake. Many similar examples of phony “soldiers” used by the Left for war crimes confessions are documented in B.G. Burkett’s bestseller Stolen Valor. Indeed, the problem was so endemic that a Republican Congress in 2005, at the urging of many veterans, passed “The Stolen Valor Act” finally criminalizing activities such as those of Macbeth.

    There is no one more injured by phony war crimes charges lodged by phony veterans than veterans themselves whose service is dishonored by the slander. I know. In 1971, in addition to listening to John Kerry from our unit falsely compare our forces in Viet Nam to “the Army of Jhengiz Khan,” I heard Al Hubbard, the president of Kerry’s VVAW, appearing with Kerry in forums such as Meet the Press and Congress confess to war crimes such as bombing innocent villages. Hubbard was an Air Force pilot, who appeared on national television wearing the Distinguished Flying Cross and many other medals while confessing our guilt in Viet Nam. Except he was none of these things, having left the Air Force as a Sergeant, never serving in Viet Nam at all.

    Military personnel all over the world thank God for Rush Limbaugh’s stout defense of our military from these fakes. In 1971, there was no one to defend us from the John Kerrys and the Al Hubbards. Indeed, it is the U.S. Senate that is a Potemkin Village. It is a body whose failure to condemn Hubbard’s and Kerry’s 1971 libels is deafening. It is also a place on whose floor active duty soldiers have been compared to the assassins of the Khmer Rouge (Senator Deck Durbin); people who terrorize women and children (Senator Kerry); and (in close proximity) cold blooded murderers (Rep. John Murtha). Hypocrisy and cowardice are terms too kind for those who demean our soldiers without regard to the consequences to them. This conduct when coupled with the effort to silence Limbaugh a stout defender of the troops, can be best described with two words: What phonies.


    20765. wonkers2 - 10/4/2007 9:30:49 PM

    Torture in the Bush Administartion--Heroes and Villains

    20766. jexster - 10/4/2007 10:09:04 PM

    Seems concerned has a problem understanding the English language. Either that or he is a pathological liar. There are no other explanation for 20764

    Sorry Arky. I blew the margins. Concerned blew Larry Craig

    20767. concerned - 10/5/2007 11:11:39 AM

    I think the Left's obsession with 'fake but accurate', 'fake but graphic' et al is what is pathological.

    Lefties keep falling for the same lies and then demonize others for not being as gullible as they are.

    20768. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/5/2007 12:05:14 PM


    20769. jexster - 10/5/2007 12:16:03 PM

    HA Wizzer!

    Conservatives Are Such Jokers . The dress like girls and stick cats up their asses.

    In 1960, John F. Kennedy, who had been shocked by the hunger he saw in West Virginia, made the fight against hunger a theme of his presidential campaign. After his election he created the modern food stamp program, which today helps millions of Americans get enough to eat.

    But Ronald Reagan thought the issue of hunger in the world’s richest nation was nothing but a big joke. Here’s what Reagan said in his famous 1964 speech “A Time for Choosing,” which made him a national political figure: “We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry each night. Well, that was probably true. They were all on a diet.”

    Today’s leading conservatives are Reagan’s heirs. If you’re poor, if you don’t have health insurance, if you’re sick — well, they don’t think it’s a serious issue. In fact, they think it’s funny.

    20770. concerned - 10/5/2007 1:27:39 PM

    More cheap ad-hominems from a homo and a hominoid.

    So what crawled up the peanut galleries' ass and died this time?

    20771. jexster - 10/5/2007 2:24:10 PM

    The margins are back..

    I think all Republicans should be required to register as sex offenders.


    What do you think TD? I mean really..do you cruise bathrooms with a cat up your ass and a plumber's helper in hand?

    20772. jexster - 10/5/2007 2:24:48 PM

    Larry Craig IS FREE!

    Larry you GO GIRL

    20773. jexster - 10/5/2007 2:28:17 PM

    New Military Leaders Question Iraq Mission

    Washington - Four and a half years after the nation's top military leaders saluted and fell in behind President Bush's pre-emptive invasion of Iraq, their replacements are beginning to question the mission and sound alarms about the toll the war is taking on the Army and the Marine Corps.

    The change at the Pentagon is striking but little-noticed, in part because Defense Secretary Robert Gates, a longtime veteran of the CIA, is quiet where his predecessor Donald H. Rumsfeld was not.

    "It's part of a sea change," said Loren Thompson, a military analyst at the Lexington Institute, a national-security research center in Washington. "The ideologues have been replaced by managers who view Iraq not as a cause, but a problem to be solved."

    Gates, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Michael Mullen, Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, Undersecretary for Intelligence Gen. James Clapper and other top officials also are concerned that the war may be crippling the military's ability to respond to other crises. They have allies in the congressional Democratic leadership - particularly House Armed Services Committee Chairman Rep. Ike Skelton of Missouri - who've been speaking out about that for months.

    20774. concerned - 10/5/2007 2:31:07 PM

    jexster -

    Did you know that 'WoW' really stands for 'Wiper of Wildcats'? That's purely his brainstorm, considering where his brain is.

    20775. jexster - 10/5/2007 2:35:31 PM

    The choice is between one loss and two and given what has been happening in Afghanistan and the Talibanization of Pakistan, I doubt there's even any choice at all

    Bush has lost two wars and broken the army in the process

    Mounting evidence, in a variety of official reports in recent weeks, that Iraqi forces won't be prepared to take over from American troops in significant numbers until late next year at the earliest, and that Iraqis have made little progress toward political reconciliation.

    "Barring that, no amount of troops and no amount of time will make much of a difference," Joint Chiefs Chairman Mullen told the Senate Armed Services Committee.



    Heckuva job



    20776. jexster - 10/5/2007 2:36:22 PM

    Wizzer you rock..now only Al Davis were about, my day would be complete!

    20777. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/5/2007 2:40:55 PM




    20778. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/5/2007 2:51:56 PM

    20779. jexster - 10/5/2007 3:44:13 PM

    Ain't it rich TD!


    Larry "Mr. Morals" Craig gets nailed for dick hunting without a license while Rush "These Colors Don't Run" Limbaugh takes a big public shit on the Troops.

    The only thing missing... a bottle of oxycontin and a desperate cat

    20780. jexster - 10/5/2007 3:53:49 PM

    So Arky when you gonna stop talking the talk and fix up a mes o Roadkill stew for the troops?

    What troops? MY TROOPS!

    This is what we do..This is what I am doing as one of the CA CD8 Field Operations Teams

    We sure could use some grits n possum!

    The Politico.com - Obama Understands what Iowa (and SC, and CA and AR - not Texas) is all about

    20781. jexster - 10/5/2007 3:54:33 PM

    "as coordinator"

    20782. concerned - 10/5/2007 4:58:20 PM

    jexster -

    You trying to say you're going to vote for a real man for president in '08?

    20783. jexster - 10/5/2007 7:13:35 PM

    Jim Webb's not running..

    20784. jexster - 10/5/2007 7:39:21 PM

    I am pissed that more DemoFags aren't standin tall with Larry. Some GOP hairball is tearing into Larry as some sort of Traitor to the Cause right now on "Hardball"

    "I am only interested in the values of my Party and the good of my country..."

    To which, his interlocutor replied..zip, zap I am jealous:

    "That's exactly why he shouldn't resign!"

    20785. jexster - 10/5/2007 9:39:57 PM

    Damn he was on PBS 2nite. Great interview. The more I see of the Man from Hope, the more I heart Huckabee

    20786. jexster - 10/6/2007 12:18:02 PM

    Fags,they're so fickle



    The War Criminal
    by Andrew Sullivan


    After reading the full investigative piece in the NYT today on how this administration decided on breaking America's historic ban on torture and then pursued a long, corrupting policy of ensuring that the interpretation of the law was politicized to keep torture alive, it is hard to disagree with Marty Lederman:

    20787. jexster - 10/6/2007 12:23:01 PM

    There is no doubt - no doubt at all - that these tactics are torture and subject to prosecution as war crimes. We know this because the law is very clear when you don't have war criminals like AEI's John Yoo rewriting it to give one man unchecked power. We know this because the very same techniques - hypothermia, long-time standing, beating - and even the very same term "enhanced interrogation techniques" - "verschaerfte Vernehmung" in the original German - were once prosecuted by American forces as war crimes. The perpetrators were the Gestapo. The penalty was death. You can verify the history here.

    20788. robertjayb - 10/6/2007 8:40:03 PM

    Huge new U.S. embassy a mess... Is Condi not minding the store? (McClatchy)

    WASHINGTON — The latest problem with the trouble-plagued new U.S. embassy complex in Iraq is that the sprinkler systems meant to contain a fire do not work, according to officials in Congress and the State Department.
    .................................................

    The embassy complex, being built by First Kuwaiti General Trade and Contracting Co., has been marred by repeated problems. In May, when kitchen facilities at a guard camp that is part of the embassy complex were tested, the electrical system malfunctioned and wires melted. A subsequent inquiry showed that First Kuwaiti had used counterfeit electrical wiring that did not meet specifications, according to testimony at a congressional hearing in July.



    20789. jexster - 10/6/2007 8:43:47 PM

    That's what you get for using slave labor

    Can't do it right without some ass-kickin overseers right Robt?

    20790. arkymalarky - 10/6/2007 10:34:18 PM

    Slate's "Trailhead" speculated several days ago about a handwritten Hillary note on her website. Inquiring about whether she actually wrote the note resulted in deflection and still no response. I thought it interesting and tried to go into the Fray to see what if any discussion there was about it, and it was harder than ever to even look at.

    More importantly, though, they seem to have dropped the question and I haven't seen it raised anywhere else. This Blackwater/union issue with her top advisor may, though. I'll be very interested to see how the shady stuff is covered in the MSM between now and the Iowa caucus.

    20791. jexster - 10/7/2007 11:28:14 AM

    The Clinton's manipulate the MSM as well as Bush does. TPMElection Central should be called and I do call it HRCEC

    I posted that Blackwater story right in the middle of one of their intermidable "Hillar's ahead in the polls" posts cause that's all there is there anymore. They may have posted it later on but I was first....

    20792. jexster - 10/7/2007 11:28:50 AM

    If you feel like the Clinton's are giving you the bums rush...that's because they are

    20793. jexster - 10/7/2007 11:39:28 AM

    CA Democrats Play Hardball to Kill GOP Electoral College Theft Attempt

    20794. arkymalarky - 10/7/2007 11:42:42 AM

    I can't function in that place. I agree about the Clinton machine--for now--but I wonder what it will be like in December-January. Obama needs to get on the stick nationally, imo, but I noticed in Huffingtonpost that Gates gave to him and not Hillary. If Obama's not working the national media more effectively by the first of November I'm going to begin to get nervous.

    Bob was watching Edwards on MTP, whom he wants to support, but said he got bored and changed the channel. Obama's the only one who has a chance of stopping Hillary. Dems need some good 523's of their own to counter the VRWC to get Hillary nominated. She's taken "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" to new heights.

    20795. jexster - 10/7/2007 12:18:22 PM

    Obama is starting to kick some ass, and Hillary's givin us the bums rush now for a reason, which is what I think you are sayign

    Interesting intel from the Campaign...THere was a poll of house/senate races that is bothering the hell out of Tester and Webb. They're afraid Hillary will lose the congress. And I was listening to Webb on Hardball a couple days before I heard this and thought to myself he sure was going out of his way to take a shot at RodHam on Iran..Now I know why


    But listen to what the MSM is saying about the polls. You'd think that Hillary was skyrocketing. But look at the trend lines of all polls on ThePollster - Hillary's actually slipped a bit over the past two weeks



    Bums rush

    20796. jexster - 10/7/2007 12:19:11 PM

    Worst President Ever?
    Bush Staffers Flee, Worry About Legacy

    20797. arkymalarky - 10/7/2007 12:39:20 PM

    Obama is starting to kick some ass

    This is the part I'm not seeing. I keep telling people here to wait until Iowa, and right now they're dubious--they're on the "foregone conclusion" bandwagon.

    20798. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/7/2007 1:44:57 PM

    arky- I made a post in T&S that I think you might enjoy and benefit from.

    20799. arkymalarky - 10/7/2007 3:09:21 PM

    Thanks! I'll go look.

    20800. wonkers2 - 10/7/2007 4:51:38 PM

    A Nation of Christians Is Not a Christian Nation

    20801. wonkers2 - 10/7/2007 4:52:14 PM

    I wish Kucinich would start kicking some ass!

    20802. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/7/2007 5:19:18 PM

    I've decided to vote for Kucinch. He's the only real Democrat in the feild.

    20803. jexster - 10/7/2007 8:34:18 PM

    They can have Lieberman

    Worst Congress Ever - Democrats Set to Boost Senate Majority

    Democrats are positioned to bolster their Senate majority in next year's elections, which would give them more clout regardless who succeeds President George W. Bush in the White House.

    With Republicans dogged by retirements, scandals and the Iraq war, there's an outside chance Democrats will gain as many as nine seats in the 100-member Senate in the November 2008 elections, which would give them a pivotal 60.

    That is the number of votes needed to clear Republican procedural roadblocks, which have been used to thwart the Democrats' efforts to force a change in Bush's policy on the Iraq war, particularly plans to withdraw U.S. troops.

    The last time Democrats had an overriding majority in the Senate was in the 1977-1979 congressional session, when they held 61 seats.

    "Sixty is not outside the realm of possibility," said Jennifer Duffy, who tracks Senate races for the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.

    20804. judithathome - 10/8/2007 2:16:10 AM

    This is an excellent rant:

    John Cole on Republican Decline

    For starters, people got tired of being associated with these drooling retards. Then, when they realized that these drooling retards had ideological allies running the show in the Bush administration and then began to experience their idiotic policies, they moved from disgusted to outright hostile.

    Like me. It had nothing to do with Burke, and everything to do with what the party had become. A bunch of bedwetting, loudmouth, corrupt, hypocritical, and incompetent boobs with a mean streak a mile long and no sense of fair play or proportion.

    Seriously- what does the current Republican party stand for? Permanent war, fear, the nanny state, big spending, torture, execution on demand, complete paranoia regarding the media, control over your body, denial of evolution and outright rejection of science, AND ZOMG THEY ARE GONNA MAKE US WEAR BURKHAS, all the while demanding that in order to be a good American I have to spend most of every damned day condemning half my fellow Americans as terrorist appeasers.

    And that isn’t even getting into the COMPLETE and TOTAL corruption of our political processes at every level. The shit is really going to hit the fan after we vote these jackasses out of power in 2008.

    Screw them. I got out. They can have their party. I will vote for Democrats and little L libertarians and isolationists until the crazy people aren’t running the GOP. The threat of higher taxes in the short term isn’t enough to keep me from voting out crazy people and voting for sane people with whom I merely disagree regarding policy. Hillarycare doesn’t scare me as much as Frank Gaffney having a line to the person with the nuclear football or Dobson and company crafting domestic policy.

    That is why the Republican party is in shambles. The majority of us have decided that the movers and shakers in the GOP and the blogospheric right are certified lunatics who, in a decent and sane society, we would have in controlled environments in rocking chairs under shade trees for most of the day, wheeled in at night for tapioca pudding and some karaoke.


    20805. jexster - 10/8/2007 12:01:49 PM

    Daniel Levy on The Israel Lobby

    20806. jexster - 10/8/2007 12:03:13 PM

    You gotta wonder Judith whether the Dems have spiked RNC water with some of that famous suicide juice they've been drinking for decades

    20807. thoughtful - 10/8/2007 1:33:21 PM

    actually the op ed of the nyt this week was a real winner. I think it's no longer behind the select stuff so it's worth checking out.

    friedman on through the looking glass with dana perino

    frank rich and mo dowd trashing justice thomas

    wonks posted above about a xtian nation

    20808. jexster - 10/8/2007 3:06:43 PM

    How anti-war is Hillary?
    by kos

    20809. jexster - 10/8/2007 4:44:15 PM

    As TD drinks his KoolAid, the Grand Old Pigpilians prepare to drink James Jones flavor

    Worst Congress Ever!

    As Campaign Nears, GOP Lawmakers Increasingly Unnerved Over IraQ

    20810. jexster - 10/8/2007 6:29:49 PM

    Finding a Job for the First Laddie
    Financial Times

    20811. jexster - 10/8/2007 9:42:57 PM

    Manly Man of Virginia Castrates John Scarborough

    20812. jexster - 10/9/2007 12:23:50 PM

    Baby steps...




    Then Tejas!

    20813. jexster - 10/9/2007 1:14:53 PM

    5 Wars
    5 Defeats
    One Broken Army
    Worst Congress Ever

    Democrats Shooting for 60 Senate Seats - Roll Call

    20814. jexster - 10/9/2007 1:30:04 PM

    Bush's Illegal War

    What the Constitution Says About Iraq
    Mario Cuomo


    Most Americans want the war in Iraq ended, but it continues and Americans are killed, mutilated or wounded every day, as the Democratic majorities in Congress struggle to produce legislation that will take our forces out of harm’s way. Meanwhile, President Bush continues to insist that as commander in chief, he has the constitutional power to go to war and decide when to end it, unilaterally. At the same time, another possible disaster emerges from the shadows: Bush appears to be considering a military assault on Iran, again apparently without Congress declaring war first.

    How did we get to this point and what, if anything, can we do now?

    The war happened because when Bush first indicated his intention to go to war against Iraq, Congress refused to insist on enforcement of Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. For more than 200 years, this article has spelled out that Congress — not the president — shall have “the power to declare war.” Because the Constitution cannot be amended by persistent evasion, this constitutional mandate was not erased by the actions of timid Congresses since World War II that allowed eager presidents to start wars in Vietnam and elsewhere without a “declaration” by Congress.

    Nor were the feeble, post-factum congressional resolutions of support of the Iraq invasion — in 2001 and 2002 — adequate substitutes for the formal declaration of war demanded by the founding fathers.

    What can be done now?

    20815. concerned - 10/9/2007 2:43:44 PM

    What can be done now?

    The Left can endlessly whine about it, apparently.

    20816. jexster - 10/9/2007 4:39:15 PM

    Need those 60 seats

    Worst Congress ever

    20817. jexster - 10/9/2007 4:42:09 PM

    The Same Old Pigpil
    Krugman

    20818. jexster - 10/9/2007 4:46:57 PM

    Now, as they survey the wreckage of their cause, conservatives may ask themselves: “Well, how did we get here?” They may tell themselves: “This is not my beautiful Right.” They may ask themselves: “My God, what have we done?”

    But their movement is the same as it ever was. And Mr. Bush is movement conservatism’s true, loyal heir.



    20819. jexster - 10/9/2007 6:28:11 PM

    Bartlett on GOP Field: They Suck

    20820. wonkers2 - 10/9/2007 6:48:24 PM

    How about Hagel or Bloomberg?

    20821. jexster - 10/9/2007 6:51:58 PM

    HA!

    That was last summer's pipe dream


    How about Michigan! The rest of the field called Billary on that scam. Now don't seat the fucking delegation!

    20822. jexster - 10/9/2007 7:59:47 PM

    They must think we all have cats up our asses....


    WH Denies that Leak Helped AlQaeda

    20823. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/9/2007 10:12:36 PM

    20824. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/9/2007 10:14:26 PM



    Underneath the diaper is a cat!

    20825. arkymalarky - 10/9/2007 10:25:51 PM

    What effect will Hillary staying on Michigan's ballot have on the Iowa and New Hampshire primaries?

    20826. jexster - 10/9/2007 10:38:35 PM

    It hurts her and most to my liking hurts that Hillary Huckster wonkers..

    God I loathe that woman...but I am more interested in Dan Bartlett's favorite candidate and mine too!

    Didn't particularly appreciate the comment about a "hick name" (where's the outrage Arky?)



    Good long shot bet...my favorite republican, the Man from Hope




    20827. jexster - 10/9/2007 10:42:57 PM

    More than just Iowa or NH, the Michigan primary was just a big bogus Billary fraud.


    Lined up all those scum sucking Michigan machine pols and tried to pull a fast one.


    Should it come down to a tight convention, the forces of the People will move to deny credentials to the entire lot of rust suckers

    20828. robertjayb - 10/9/2007 10:50:59 PM

    ...a sample of Garrison Keillor from Salon;

    The gang of Republicans running for president is hoping to induce amnesia -- Old Fred and the cross-dressing thrice-married ex-mayor and the bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran man, the handsome one with the 43 grandparents, the Southern gov who lost all that weight, Sen. Brownbutt, and others -- they need some miracle to make people forget what happened the past seven years. They are out there bloviating about personal responsibility, the sanctity of marriage, the need for balanced budgets, the bravery of our men in uniform, the treachery of Democrats, and meanwhile there are huge steaming heaps of elephant dung in the room that they studiously ignore. Their party inflicted on this country an idiot for a president (remember Harriet Miers?) and a monumentally corrupt Congress that abandoned its constitutional responsibilities, and now they hope for a miracle, some huge distraction, like maybe a married gay couple driving a Volvo with Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers and a suitcase full of liquids and gels and enough hairspray to blow up Grant's Tomb -- something dramatic.

    20829. jexster - 10/9/2007 11:10:57 PM

    That deserves an award



    The Imperial Tejas Turd Blossom

    20830. arkymalarky - 10/9/2007 11:14:11 PM

    God I loathe that woman

    I dislike her, and as I said, more than a littls is from her AR political history, but my feelings are visceral and I don't get them, but I also don't get people who do claim to like her.

    My populist wish is some version of Obama and Edwards.

    Either way, though, I can't read her at this point as inevitable, and I know I'm biased, but there was a good article online in Time about that. It was linked in Huffingtonpost. There was also a story there about her pulling her "baby bonds" idea in response to GOP criticism.

    I've watched this woman for almost my entire adult life, and I think people who support her now will not be happy with her as president. No one will be happier than I will if I turn out to be wrong, but I don't think a leopard spot change is likely after 25 years.

    20831. jexster - 10/9/2007 11:28:21 PM

    Baby bonds, IRA payolas...I would not have sex with that woman either


    But I am serious about Hucks....hard core conservative, southerner, compassionate new face, not associated with Bushville, not a heretic, not an actor, not a drag queen with 3 wives, and not a racist


    For a party that looks for the world to be headed to the bottom of the toilet bowl next year, if I were a Republican, I'd take a hard look at the Huck

    20832. arkymalarky - 10/9/2007 11:46:15 PM

    Note how deftly I've ignored your gigging about him! ;-)

    Again, though, if you were in AR you would know a much different side of him. He's vindictive and intolerant of any opposition. He got so personally ugly with a legislator who was hesitant to support his education bill (which consolidated almost all control over education to the executive) that he made scandalous accusations about him having used his influence to get a relative out of trouble with the law. That's just one of many examples. I'd still like to know why he disintegrated the state computers before he left. I worked far more closely in politics with him as governor than I did when Clinton was in charge and Hillary was over education--I was a fairly new teacher then.

    Look at www.mikehuckabee.com and you'll see a sampling. It's also telling that he's not getting the GOP support even in his own state. You have to be around him for a while, but he can't help himself--eventually he'll show an ugly, catty side, especially if he's ever challenged or crossed.

    20833. arkymalarky - 10/9/2007 11:46:45 PM

    Note how deftly I've ignored your gigging about him! ;-)

    Again, though, if you were in AR you would know a much different side of him. He's vindictive and intolerant of any opposition. He got so personally ugly with a legislator who was hesitant to support his education bill (which consolidated almost all control over education to the executive) that he made scandalous accusations about him having used his influence to get a relative out of trouble with the law. That's just one of many examples. I'd still like to know why he disintegrated the state computers before he left. I worked far more closely in politics with him as governor than I did when Clinton was in charge and Hillary was over education--I was a fairly new teacher then.

    Look at www.mikehuckabee.com and you'll see a sampling. Or look at the Arkansas Times. It's also telling that he's not getting the GOP support even in his own state. You have to be around him for a while, but he can't help himself--eventually he'll show an ugly, catty side, especially if he's ever challenged or crossed.

    20834. arkymalarky - 10/9/2007 11:47:57 PM

    Sorry about the double.

    And while I'm at it, I agree with you. At first, and even second and third glance, it seems amazing that Huckabee hasn't caught fire. But I believe it's because party insiders know him better than what the general public does.

    20835. jexster - 10/10/2007 12:33:36 PM

    Caught by the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Hillary rattled...

    Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran

    20836. jexster - 10/10/2007 12:52:08 PM

    But he seems so ...well pastor-al..Like some memory from Sunday School!

    20837. jexster - 10/10/2007 2:16:30 PM

    The Rudy Apocalypse - Mullah Dobson Wacks Three Pussies




    20838. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/10/2007 3:40:15 PM

    20839. jexster - 10/10/2007 4:26:11 PM

    HA!


    I bet concerned will have a gay old time

    20840. jexster - 10/10/2007 10:38:38 PM

    New Obama ad on Energy dependence and the idiots in Deetroit


    Running in NH

    20841. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/10/2007 11:22:45 PM

    20842. arkymalarky - 10/11/2007 12:32:44 AM

    I don't read Kausfiles much, but the headline got me curious. how shitty is this?

    And when I clicked the Huffpo link it was a nothing article.

    If Mickey Kaus is an ignorant jerk, shouldn't his readership know about it?

    20843. wonkers2 - 10/11/2007 10:23:25 AM

    Kaus is one of the most irritating bloggers on Slate.

    20844. wonkers2 - 10/11/2007 10:28:59 AM

    There is a scary article in the Oct 8 New Yorker by Seymour Hersh about Cheney's ongoing campaign to bomb Iran. Apparently the latest plan is to launch "surgical" strikes on Revolutionary Guard training camps and facilities followed up by quick ground incursions by Special Forces. Hersh claims that Gordon Brown supports the plan. Hillary's vote helped enable Bush's invasion of Iraq and her recent vote labeling the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization is a step toward enabling Bush to widen the war to include Iran. When will they ever learn?

    20845. jexster - 10/11/2007 1:07:43 PM

    Thank you! Mo Dowd nailed that one:
    Hillary calls it "her experience" edge. I call it total triangulated bullshit

    20846. Max Macks - 10/11/2007 3:09:28 PM

    wonkers , ya I read that article by Seymour Hersha

    made me think of Dr. Stranglove an Cheney

    Do you think Bush could bomb Iran
    without Congress approval?


    btw, Willthe Democrats nominate
    yet another person in this case Hillary
    who will not get elected.???

    20847. jexster - 10/11/2007 4:38:38 PM

    I think Bush can do whatever Bush wants, and SHillary'd be left with "if I only knew then what I know now"

    And we'd be stuck with Villary

    A beautiful take down of the mental masturbation of the BushVille Punditocracy


    Obama: The Rock Star Can't Win for Losing

    20848. jexster - 10/11/2007 4:44:14 PM

    The Likud Wing of the Grand Old War Party

    Rudy Three Pussies Corners the Market on NeoCon Whackadoos

    20849. jexster - 10/11/2007 7:43:47 PM

    Worst Congress Ever

    Yet another GOP retirement: Rep. Regula (R-OH)


    If TD didn't like this congress, just wait for the next one

    20850. wonkers2 - 10/11/2007 7:48:01 PM

    The pundits are jumping on Mitt Romney about his "check with the lawyers" response to Chris Matthews's question about what he would do if we faced a threat from Iran. If my memory serves me George Romney's campaign was derailed by a similar ill-considered remark to the effect that he had "been brainwashed." Does anybody remember what this was about? I'll try to look it up.

    20851. wonkers2 - 10/11/2007 7:55:40 PM

    Romney reversed him on his support of the Vietnam war with the remark "When I came back from Vietnam (in Nov. 1965)I'd just had the greatest brainwashing that anybody can get." This remark cost him the lead to Richard Nixon in the race for the GOP nomination. Some said that the President should be too smart to be brainwashed. And the fact that the Manchurian Candidate had been a big hit not long before didn't help. (per wikipedia)

    20852. wonkers2 - 10/11/2007 8:09:23 PM

    Here's Obama's op-ed today in the Vermont Union Leader NEWS
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    News tips & feedbackSen. Barack Obama: Five years after Iraq war vote, we're still foolishly rattling our sabers
    By SEN. BARACK OBAMA

    19 hours, 1 minute ago

    ON THE FIFTH anniversary of the Senate's vote to authorize an open-ended war in Iraq, we should resolve to never repeat the terrible mistake of launching a misguided war. But unfortunately, the Senate risked doing exactly that when it recently opened the door to an extension and escalation of the ongoing war in Iraq to include military action against Iran.

    There is no doubt that Iran poses a threat. It has armed terrorists beyond its borders, maintains an illicit nuclear program, and its leaders have issued belligerent threats that are a concern to us all. But our first and most important avenue to contain Iranian aggression is to try the tough and direct diplomacy that the Bush administration has too often disdained. Instead of encouraging that diplomacy, an amendment passed last month by the Senate could be used by the President as justification to strike Iran under the authority granted to him by the 2002 Iraq war resolution.

    The amendment, offered by Sens. Joe Lieberman and Jon Kyl, directly links the ongoing war in Iraq -- including our troop presence -- to checking the threat from Iran. The amendment opens with 17 findings that highlight Iranian influence within Iraq. It then states that we have to "transition(s) and structure" our "military presence in Iraq" to counter the threat from Iran, and states that it is "a critical national interest of the United States" to prevent the Iranian government from exerting influence inside Iraq.

    Why is this so dangerous? The Bush administration could use language like this to justify a continued troop presence in Iraq as long as it perceives a threat from Iran. Even worse, the Bush administration could use the language in Lieberman-Kyl to justify an attack on Iran as a part of the ongoing war in Iraq.

    As my colleague Sen. Joe Biden, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, said in opposing the amendment, "I do not want to give the President and his lawyers any argument that Congress has somehow authorized military actions."

    He is exactly right. Because as we learned with the original authorization of the Iraq war -- when you give this President a blank check, you can't be surprised when he cashes it.

    I strongly differ with Sen. Hillary Clinton, who was the only Democratic presidential candidate to support this reckless amendment. We do need to tighten sanctions on the Iranian regime, particularly on Iran's Revolutionary Guard, which sponsors terrorism far beyond Iran's borders. But this must be done separately from any unnecessary saber-rattling about checking Iranian influence with our "military presence in Iraq." Above all, it must be done through tough and direct diplomacy with Iran, which I have supported, and which Sen. Clinton has called "naive and irresponsible."

    Sen. Clinton says she was merely voting for more diplomacy, not war with Iran. If this has a familiar ring, it should. Five years after the original vote for war in Iraq, Sen. Clinton has argued that her vote was not for war -- it was for diplomacy, or inspections. But all of us knew what the Senate was debating in 2002. John Edwards has renounced his own vote for the war, and he should be applauded for his candor. After all, we didn't need to authorize a war in order to have United Nations weapons inspections. No one thought Congress was debating diplomacy. No newspaper headlines ran on Oct. 12, 2002, reading, "Congress authorizes diplomacy." This was a vote to authorize war, and without that vote, there would have been no war.

    America needs a leader who will make the right judgments about matters as grave as war and peace, and America needs a leader who will be straight with them. When I spoke out against going to war in Iraq in 2002, I knew that I was putting my political career on the line. Going to war was popular; so was President Bush. But I felt strongly that a war in Iraq would lead to an open-ended and destructive occupation of Iraq, and weaken us in the fight against al-Qaida in Afghanistan. And I felt a responsibility to say so.

    Now, the Senate has once again voted for an amendment that goes out of its way to draw connections between distinct threats, and that replaces judicious policy-making with unnecessary saber-rattling. And once again, we hear that it is not really a vote for more war, it is a vote for more diplomacy.

    But the way to support diplomacy is to actually pursue it, which is what I have called for in this campaign. Not the ad hoc Bush-Cheney diplomacy of not talking to people we don't like, but real, direct, and sustained diplomacy that exhausts all of our options instead of rushing to war.

    In choosing their next President, the American people need to look at the judgments each of the candidates has made on war in the past, and at who has clearly learned the lessons of this disastrous war going forward.

    This is not a debate about 2002; it's about the future, and in that debate I can run on, and not from, my record.

    Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., is running for the Democratic nomination for President.

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    20853. wonkers2 - 10/11/2007 8:11:40 PM

    It was a big, possibly fatal, mistake for Hillary to cast her lot with Bush, Lieberman and John Kyl. Obama is absolutely right on this one!

    20854. jexster - 10/11/2007 8:18:11 PM

    Some like her triangulated experience

    Hillary's Policies Not Much Different from Bush's

    Fox News

    20855. jexster - 10/11/2007 8:19:17 PM

    Gee wonkers I appreciate your enthusiasm but how bout selecting some of the garbage for deletion next time!

    What do you think this is, Woodward Ave?

    20856. jexster - 10/11/2007 8:22:05 PM

    Obama: Blank Check

    20857. wonkers2 - 10/11/2007 8:34:58 PM

    Sorry! I'm a tech idiot.

    20858. jexster - 10/11/2007 9:18:28 PM

    That's cause you're from MICHIGAN!


    I heard that UMich just lost one of its top genetic scientists to California because of your embryonic stem cell ban

    Can't even play decent football up there any more!

    20859. jexster - 10/11/2007 9:19:26 PM

    20860. arkymalarky - 10/11/2007 10:19:23 PM

    Hey, Wonk, I'm glad to see the article with the extra stuff in it! I missed that today, and it's some of what I've been waiting for wrt Obama.

    (wonder if Jex will make MY post bold!?)

    20861. jexster - 10/11/2007 10:29:36 PM

    For Thanksgivin

    right Wonk!!!




    Fri, Nov 23 Arkansas 3:30 pm --

    20862. jexster - 10/11/2007 11:19:43 PM

    Obama Addresses The Aggression Question

    20863. jexster - 10/11/2007 11:58:18 PM

    When the much ballyhoo'ed "Hillary Surges" WaPo poll came out last week, I reported my hunch that when the regression had been done, it would prove to be an outlier

    The Regression has been done


    As I noted at the time, if anything Hillary has lost support and is certainly not "surging" no matter how many times you hear it from BushVille Media Inc

    20864. jexster - 10/12/2007 12:07:57 PM

    GORE WINS!

    20865. jexster - 10/12/2007 1:14:04 PM

    Like I said Arky, hands down the best choice for real Republicans next year.


    The alarums from antiwar.com's conservative libertarian wing are all the endorsement any loyal War Party republican need have

    The Huckabee Horror: Justin Raimondo

    Screw JewLiani and his moral bankruptcies...Huck's the only GOP candidate who makes GOP sense

    20866. jexster - 10/12/2007 3:05:10 PM

    Worst Congreff Ever!

    Grand Jury Subpoenas Aide to GOP Leader, Rep Jerry Lewis (R-CA)

    20867. wonkers2 - 10/12/2007 3:26:17 PM

    The link doesn't work (20866).

    20868. jexster - 10/12/2007 3:40:00 PM

    That's cause I am a tech idiot!


    A Huck of Horrors
    - He'd Shred the Constitution in a Heart Beat

    20869. arkymalarky - 10/12/2007 6:26:20 PM

    It amazes me how transparent the GOP is about wanting Hillary as the nominee and how hard they're pushing it.

    I told you he's scary. He has an ego and a dead certainty about everything he wants that's completely unwavering. I've never seen him back down from or compromise on anything he wanted. Never.

    20870. arkymalarky - 10/12/2007 6:28:57 PM

    BTW, I notice he's finally bought his name back off the internet. Too bad. I hope the guy gives himself a great vacation with the money he got. Heh heh.

    20871. jexster - 10/12/2007 7:39:13 PM

    You want scary? Lou Dobbs on BushWar on the middle class

    "I don't care what Bush calls himself - compassionate conservative, republican or abject fool"

    20872. jexster - 10/12/2007 7:49:12 PM

    "I would engage in negotiations with Iran, with no conditions because we don't really understand how Iran works,"


    Brunehilde the Experienced

    20873. jexster - 10/12/2007 8:49:53 PM

    Worst Congress Ever!
    Craig ethics complaint backfires on GOP






    Larry who?

    Now that scandal-tinged Idaho Sen. Larry Craig has reneged on a pledge to resign this fall, his fellow Republican senators act as though they hardly know him. They want voters to forget him, too.

    But they privately acknowledge that an earlier strategy to drive Craig from office has backfired, sticking them with an open-ended ethics investigation likely to keep the issue before the public for months.

    Senate Republicans demanded the Ethics Committee inquiry into his sex-sting conviction last summer in hopes of forcing Craig to resign. He essentially called their bluff this month when he reversed his decision to resign Sept. 30 unless a court let him drop his guilty plea.

    Now Republicans are powerless to stop a process almost certain to do more political damage to the party in general than to a retiring senator.

    "I think they were a little fanciful" in urging the Senate's Select Committee on Ethics to take up the matter, said Stanley Brand, a Washington lawyer for Craig. He called the strong-arm strategy "ethical waterboarding," referring to the controversial interrogation technique.



    20874. arkymalarky - 10/12/2007 9:35:51 PM

    "I would engage in negotiations with Iran, with no conditions because we don't really understand how Iran works,"

    I thought that was fairly stupid and was sort of puzzled no one else mentioned that. And she said "not the leaders, but the country," which I didn't understand at all, and instead of picking up on that TPM and Fox used it as "evidence" she didn't contradict herself.

    I'm not following anyone's line of reasoning on that flap--except Obama's and Edwards'.

    20875. jexster - 10/12/2007 10:19:53 PM

    TPMElection Central is a charter member of We Shill for Hill 2008


    I make it a point to run at least one drive by every day or two

    They're awful and so is Olbermann

    The Clintons were powerful in 2000 when they screwed Gore and instead of standing tall against the outrages of the past 8 years big bill became Poppy's best friend, and wifeee underwrote Georgie's little wars.

    Instead of standing tall, the Clintons laid in the weeds growing their campaign machine and fine tuning their Comeback Kid III strategy.

    Case in point of their power - Rep John Lewis endorsed Hillary today. In March he had been counted an Obama supporter and it was reported that he was about to endorse at the Montgomery-Selma thing when big Bill intervened to get a postponement

    Well over the months they worked his ass as well as Oaktown Mayor and former Rep Ron Dellums

    They've lined up media shills from TPM to Olbermann (checkout his marshmallow interview yesterday) and they're calling in the chits from the black power elite


    20876. jexster - 10/12/2007 10:20:28 PM

    Hill and Bill are going for the Big Kill by December.

    20877. jexster - 10/12/2007 10:22:05 PM

    But the Tigers..they eat on November 23 in Death Valley



    The House That Huey Built

    20878. jexster - 10/13/2007 12:04:46 AM

    Republican Rats Scramble to Take Over Sinking Ship
    Times of London

    20879. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/13/2007 12:14:38 PM

    I have to laugh--I thought that link title was made up, but it's the actual title of the piece.

    20880. jexster - 10/13/2007 2:07:41 PM

    Tim Russert Wakes Up, Smells Coffee

    I've been preaching for six months the Gospel of Hillary Clinton's Fraudulent Experience.

    At last Tim Russert picked it up:




    I put it a bit more harshly than that Russert paraphrase -

    20881. wonkers2 - 10/14/2007 11:47:40 AM

    The ‘Good Germans’ Among Us


    By FRANK RICH
    Published: October 14, 2007

    “BUSH lies” doesn’t cut it anymore. It’s time to confront the darker reality that we are lying to ourselves.

    Ten days ago The Times unearthed yet another round of secret Department of Justice memos countenancing torture. President Bush gave his standard response: “This government does not torture people.” Of course, it all depends on what the meaning of “torture” is. The whole point of these memos is to repeatedly recalibrate the definition so Mr. Bush can keep pleading innocent.

    By any legal standards except those rubber-stamped by Alberto Gonzales, we are practicing torture, and we have known we are doing so ever since photographic proof emerged from Abu Ghraib more than three years ago. As Andrew Sullivan, once a Bush cheerleader, observed last weekend in The Sunday Times of London, America’s “enhanced interrogation” techniques have a grotesque provenance: “Verschärfte Vernehmung, enhanced or intensified interrogation, was the exact term innovated by the Gestapo to describe what became known as the ‘third degree.’

    Still, the drill remains the same. The administration gives its alibi (Abu Ghraib was just a few bad apples). A few members of Congress squawk. The debate is labeled “politics.” We turn the page.

    There has been scarcely more response to the similarly recurrent story of apparent war crimes committed by our contractors in Iraq. Call me cynical, but when Laura Bush spoke up last week about the human rights atrocities in Burma, it seemed less an act of selfless humanitarianism than another administration maneuver to change the subject from its own abuses.

    As Mrs. Bush spoke, two women, both Armenian Christians, were gunned down in Baghdad by contractors underwritten by American taxpayers. On this matter, the White House has been silent. That incident followed the Sept. 16 massacre in Baghdad’s Nisour Square, where 17 Iraqis were killed by security forces from Blackwater USA, which had already been implicated in nearly 200 other shooting incidents since 2005. There has been no accountability. The State Department, Blackwater’s sugar daddy for most of its billion dollars in contracts, won’t even share its investigative findings with the United States military and the Iraqi government, both of which have deemed the killings criminal.

    The gunmen who mowed down the two Christian women worked for a Dubai-based company managed by Australians, registered in Singapore and enlisted as a subcontractor by an American contractor headquartered in North Carolina. This is a plot out of “Syriana” by way of “Chinatown.” There will be no trial. We will never find out what happened. A new bill passed by the House to regulate contractor behavior will have little effect, even if it becomes law in its current form.

    We can continue to blame the Bush administration for the horrors of Iraq — and should. Paul Bremer, our post-invasion viceroy and the recipient of a Presidential Medal of Freedom for his efforts, issued the order that allows contractors to elude Iraqi law, a folly second only to his disbanding of the Iraqi Army. But we must also examine our own responsibility for the hideous acts committed in our name in a war where we have now fought longer than we did in the one that put Verschärfte Vernehmung on the map.

    I have always maintained that the American public was the least culpable of the players during the run-up to Iraq. The war was sold by a brilliant and fear-fueled White House propaganda campaign designed to stampede a nation still shellshocked by 9/11. Both Congress and the press — the powerful institutions that should have provided the checks, balances and due diligence of the administration’s case — failed to do their job. Had they done so, more Americans might have raised more objections. This perfect storm of democratic failure began at the top.

    As the war has dragged on, it is hard to give Americans en masse a pass. We are too slow to notice, let alone protest, the calamities that have followed the original sin.

    We first learned of the use of contractors as mercenaries when four Blackwater employees were strung up in Falluja in March 2004, just weeks before the first torture photos emerged from Abu Ghraib. We asked few questions. When reports surfaced early this summer that our contractors in Iraq (180,000, of whom some 48,000 are believed to be security personnel) now outnumber our postsurge troop strength, we yawned. Contractor casualties and contractor-inflicted casualties are kept off the books.

    It was always the White House’s plan to coax us into a blissful ignorance about the war. Part of this was achieved with the usual Bush-Cheney secretiveness, from the torture memos to the prohibition of photos of military coffins. But the administration also invited our passive complicity by requiring no shared sacrifice. A country that knows there’s no such thing as a free lunch was all too easily persuaded there could be a free war.

    Instead of taxing us for Iraq, the White House bought us off with tax cuts. Instead of mobilizing the needed troops, it kept a draft off the table by quietly purchasing its auxiliary army of contractors to finesse the overstretched military’s holes. With the war’s entire weight falling on a small voluntary force, amounting to less than 1 percent of the population, the rest of us were free to look the other way at whatever went down in Iraq.

    We ignored the contractor scandal to our own peril. Ever since Falluja this auxiliary army has been a leading indicator of every element of the war’s failure: not only our inadequate troop strength but also our alienation of Iraqi hearts and minds and our rampant outsourcing to contractors rife with Bush-Cheney cronies and campaign contributors....

    Last week Paul Rieckhoff, an Iraq war combat veteran who directs Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, sketched for me the apocalypse to come. Should Baghdad implode, our contractors, not having to answer to the military chain of command, can simply “drop their guns and go home.” Vulnerable American troops could be deserted by those “who deliver their bullets and beans.”

    This potential scenario is just one example of why it’s in our national self-interest to attend to Iraq policy the White House counts on us to ignore. Our national character is on the line too. The extralegal contractors are both a slap at the sovereignty of...Iraq we supposedly support and an insult to those in uniform receiving as little as one-sixth the pay....

    ... Even now, despite his repeated declaration that “America will not abandon the Iraqi people,” he (Bush) has yet to address or intervene decisively in the tragedy of four million-plus Iraqi refugees, a disproportionate number of them children. He feels no pressure from the American public to do so, but hey, he pays lip service to Darfur.

    Our moral trajectory over the Bush years could not be better dramatized than it was by a reunion of an elite group of two dozen World War II veterans in Washington this month. They were participants in a top-secret operation to interrogate some 4,000 Nazi prisoners of war. Until now, they have kept silent, but America’s recent record prompted them to talk to The Washington Post.

    “We got more information out of a German general with a game of chess or Ping-Pong than they do today, with their torture,” said Henry Kolm, 90, an M.I.T. physicist whose interrogation of Rudolf Hess, Hitler’s deputy, took place over a chessboard. George Frenkel, 87, recalled that he “never laid hands on anyone” in his many interrogations, adding, “I’m proud to say I never compromised my humanity.”

    Our humanity has been compromised by those who use Gestapo tactics in our war. The longer we stand idly by while they do so, the more we resemble those “good Germans” who professed ignorance of their own Gestapo. It’s up to us to wake up our somnambulant Congress to challenge administration policy every day. Let the war’s last supporters filibuster all night if they want to. There is nothing left to lose except whatever remains of our country’s good name.

    20882. jexster - 10/14/2007 2:34:20 PM

    Worst Congress EVER!

    More GOP Congresspersons Voice Unease



    "Unease"= understatement

    20883. jexster - 10/14/2007 3:05:09 PM

    I am an OpEd Columist So Can You
    Steven Colbert
    New York Times



    20884. arkymalarky - 10/14/2007 3:35:40 PM

    I just love that man.

    20885. jexster - 10/14/2007 8:55:45 PM

    Not nearly as snarky as Frank Rich but along the same lines

    Just Brainless, Mr. Bush
    Financial Times

    20886. jexster - 10/14/2007 10:34:02 PM

    Damn ANOTHER House Republican retired TD!

    20887. Max Macks - 10/15/2007 4:55:16 PM

    If I thought Bush and Cheney had made a mess in Iraq

    but could it get any worse

    then I saw something on the TV about the Embassy
    that is being built in Bagdad.
    How come there has not been more in the news
    about this stick in the eye of the Iraqi
    who still can get clean water and gasoline
    for their cars or medical treatment for
    the wounded ./
    discusting seems to mild a word
    for this Embassy .
    unfuckingbelievable

    20888. arkymalarky - 10/15/2007 8:21:26 PM

    Where can you get stats on polls this time last presidential election?

    20889. arkymalarky - 10/15/2007 8:33:12 PM

    Nevermind. This is a good Alterman piece from Huffpost for some perspective and links to past polls: Alterman

    20890. jexster - 10/15/2007 9:07:30 PM

    Well the uppity nigrah done done it


    Obama Just Says No to the Great Triangulator


    Oh my ears! The heresy!

    TPMElectionClinton shills are positively hyperventillating with hysteria

    20891. jexster - 10/16/2007 10:45:32 AM

    Stop Her Before She Triangulates Again

    20892. Max Macks - 10/16/2007 1:39:24 PM

    Great title jex

    Brunehilde the Bold

    20893. jexster - 10/16/2007 10:15:57 PM

    Top 10 Reasons Hillary Could Tank

    20894. jexster - 10/17/2007 1:13:33 PM

    Clinton/Giuliani - The War Hawks
    Juan Cole
    Salon

    20895. jexster - 10/17/2007 3:50:27 PM

    Though he's not formally endorsing anyone, KOS supports either Dodd or Obama..in that order

    20896. jexster - 10/17/2007 10:16:23 PM

    Worst President Ever

    Bush's approval at new low in Reuters: 24 percent

    20897. concerned - 10/18/2007 12:43:16 PM

    Not as low as some Democrat presidents I can think off, like Cahtuh and Truman - the real worst presidents ever.

    Still more than twice the Worst Congress Ever's approval rating, too.

    20898. concerned - 10/18/2007 12:44:26 PM

    Air America Fails to Pull Off Tawana Brawley Lite Hoax

    20899. jexster - 10/18/2007 12:53:03 PM

    Only president lower was NIXON at 23%

    I have pointed this out before with graphs and tables...three times is enuf

    20900. jexster - 10/18/2007 12:53:46 PM

    20897

    How many GOP congresspersons announced their retirement this week?

    20901. jexster - 10/18/2007 1:02:28 PM

    Out of the corn fields, the Stealth Campaign is SURGING!


    Republicans:
    Romney 27%
    Giuliani 13%
    Huckabee 12%
    Thompson 10%
    McCain 5%

    20902. jexster - 10/18/2007 4:31:43 PM

    Guess He Didn't Think Much of Concerned's Memo


    Hastert to Leave House Before End of Term


    TD- Did you remember to include the Kool-Aid - "Worst Congress Ever"flavor?

    20903. jexster - 10/18/2007 4:40:11 PM

    Spineocrat
    A Spinal Growth Supplement for Democrat

    20904. jexster - 10/18/2007 8:57:12 PM

    In the Worst Congress Ever

    House Republicans Attack Dems from "the Fetal Position"
    The Politico


    I am going to do a partial birth abortion on concerned

    20905. jexster - 10/18/2007 9:42:19 PM

    This just in...


    2008 Election Canceled

    Penn says Clinton already beat Giuliani

    Clinton's chief strategist says that Clinton can beat Giuliani—and that, in fact, she already has.






    20906. wonkers2 - 10/19/2007 12:34:40 PM

    Master Liquidity Enhancement Conduit

    20907. wonkers2 - 10/19/2007 12:37:48 PM

    Are U.S. Taxes Too High?

    20908. wonkers2 - 10/19/2007 1:23:33 PM

    The Clinton Surprise Deal with it Jexter!

    20909. judithathome - 10/19/2007 1:29:20 PM

    The “we” world of Tucker Carlson knew what they knew about Hillary Clinton — right up until about this week, I think — because they spend an awful lot of time talking to, socializing with and interviewing one another.

    What they don’t do all that much is venture outside of a certain set of zip codes to get a feel for the way most people are actually living. They don’t sign up for adjustable rate mortgages, visit emergency rooms to get their primary health care, leave their children in unlicensed day care or lose their jobs because they have to drive their mothers home from the hospital after hip replacement surgery.

    Hillary Clinton’s supporters, it turns out, do.


    I've been saying this all along...the Republicans saw Hillary as their dream candidate because they were convinced she could never win...they salivated at the idea of the stupid Democrats making her the nominee...they hungered for it!

    And you know what they are going to have to do now? They are going to have to get used to addressing Hilary as Madam President.

    20910. wonkers2 - 10/19/2007 1:41:23 PM

    Got that, Jexter?

    20911. jexster - 10/19/2007 2:11:06 PM

    Smell that smell Wonk?
    The Clinton Stench is Back




    Krugman


    Sorry wonk..the Clinton Bums Rush works only well...on bums

    20912. jexster - 10/19/2007 2:15:06 PM

    The Clinton Experience

    An unlikely treasure-trove of donors for Clinton
    Los Angeles Times


    The candidate's unparalleled fundraising success relies largely on the least-affluent residents of New York's Chinatown -- some of whom can't be tracked down. >>


    She'll do it without my vote

    Got that Wonk?

    20913. jexster - 10/19/2007 2:16:25 PM

    Hillary's hoping the Clinton Surprise lasts longer than Wonk's Imus boycott

    The Left Wing of the Booboisie

    20914. jexster - 10/19/2007 2:25:07 PM

    Mrs. Bill Rakes in Cash from Arms Industry


    Villary's entire inevitability campaign depends on Democratic hunger for shadenfreude but as Obama so trenchantly puts it, she offers nothing of substance - just more of the same, more or less competently done as Krugman also says.


    If the Dems can get over their obsession with Comeback Kid III, then we can really kick ass and change this country. If not, the GOP will have the answer to their prayers and their best, if forlorn, hope to save their sorry asses

    20915. arkymalarky - 10/19/2007 2:50:00 PM

    I still believe it's very likely if she's nominated she'll lose. People will come out to vote against her. Look at her donors. And if Huckabee does get the nomination he has a good chance of winning a general election against her, and then we will see what political manipulation of one party over the nominee of the other gets us all (Watergate without the illegalities). It won't be pretty.

    I think they ought to go back to making you vote in your own party's primary.

    20916. arkymalarky - 10/19/2007 3:00:56 PM

    WRT political parties, Congress is more interesting. The presidential manipulation is going to end up with a sucky president either way, if it works. I won't assume it's working at least until after Iowa. I won't give it success until after February. At that point I'm simply along for the ride like the rest of America if she's the nominee, no matter who the Republican is.

    But I will say this: Democrats who consider themselves educated and competent to select a good leader had better inform themselves in more detail than they're used to, with both past and present information, or assume responsibility for the results of willful ignorance. "Follow the money." Like I said in another context way back, "I told you so" is one of my favorite phrases when it applies--it's the only consolation prize for losing, and it takes a while to cash it in at times. If I'm wrong, great. People can use it right back.

    20917. jexster - 10/19/2007 3:01:54 PM

    You gotta set Judith straight Arky.

    I'll take care of Wonkers...you can bet the cat in concerned's ass on that

    20918. arkymalarky - 10/19/2007 3:02:58 PM

    Judith knows--she's saying that if the Republican strategy works Hillary could very well end up president, which is very true.

    20919. jexster - 10/19/2007 3:03:48 PM

    There's a better than 50-50 chance that if Hillary is the nominee I will not vote the Pres election ..first time in 36 years that I haven't voted Democratic


    I'll try to hold my nose but the stench is just too much

    20920. jexster - 10/19/2007 3:04:51 PM

    OK then I misunderestimated.

    Wonk's question threw me off but that's ok....I'll take care of that nappy headed ho

    20921. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/19/2007 3:05:41 PM

    There's always drugs . . .


    20922. arkymalarky - 10/19/2007 3:08:14 PM

    I'll try to hold my nose but the stench is just too much

    (pat pat pat) I know, I know, but you gotta. Especially if Huckabee is the Republican nominee.

    20923. arkymalarky - 10/19/2007 3:19:24 PM

    From TPM on the FISA bill:

    Earlier today Chris Dodd said he'd put a hold on the bill, raising questions about where the other Senator-candidates would come down on this. We now have Obama's answer -- against. No statement yet from Hillary on this.

    20924. jexster - 10/19/2007 3:32:50 PM

    If the Man from Hope wins all bets are off! I heart him and word up that he's running a stealth campaign throughout flyover country..

    The Huck is a dark horse favorite and mine...on those days I am not a Fred Head

    20925. jexster - 10/19/2007 3:34:57 PM

    How do you think I survived Nixon Wiz?

    20926. jexster - 10/19/2007 4:31:57 PM

    The Man from Hope

    The first thing you notice about Mike Huckabee is that he has a Mayberry name and a Jim Nabors face. But it’s quickly clear that Huckabee is as good a campaigner as anybody running for president this year. And before too long it becomes easy to come up with reasons why he might have a realistic shot at winning the Republican nomination


    David Brooks

    20927. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/19/2007 4:36:45 PM

    0925. jexster - 10/19/2007 3:34:57 PM

    How do you think I survived Nixon Wiz?



    20928. judithathome - 10/19/2007 6:10:01 PM

    Jex, I will lose every shred of respect I have for you if you vote for a feebe like Huckabee...that guy is a weasel.

    20929. wonkers2 - 10/19/2007 6:15:29 PM

    Me too!

    20930. jexster - 10/19/2007 6:57:52 PM

    I would NEVER vote for a Republican. I just won't vote. Though Hucks is tempting....specially compared to the Vile Miss Shrill

    How could anyone stand that voice for four years

    20931. wonkers2 - 10/19/2007 7:01:49 PM

    For Jexter

    20932. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/19/2007 7:10:45 PM

    [Hoping this makes arky's day . . . ]

    20933. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/19/2007 7:10:59 PM

    [Hoping this makes arky's day . . . ]

    20934. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/19/2007 7:11:49 PM

    [hiccup!]

    20935. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/19/2007 7:12:03 PM

    [hiccup!]

    20936. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/19/2007 7:12:15 PM

    ?????

    20937. jexster - 10/19/2007 7:20:19 PM

    You Yankees jus luv funnin on Southerners right Arky?



    That's real leadership ability there Wonk...sheesh what a scam she am...haven't we had enough fakery

    20938. arkymalarky - 10/19/2007 10:54:20 PM

    HAHAHA!! It certainly does, Wiz!! I'm going to print it and put it on my fridge with the magnet Bro gave me with a picture of Bush: "Like a rock. Only dumber."

    20939. arkymalarky - 10/19/2007 10:56:33 PM

    Jexthro--fits perfectly.

    20940. Max Macks - 10/20/2007 2:00:45 PM

    I dont think Hillary can get elected
    even when it would seem that ANY Dem
    would win.

    Will the Dems loose again as they did with Kerry
    ,
    and Gore

    and Dukakis

    20941. judithathome - 10/20/2007 3:46:27 PM

    Hide and watch, Max...hide and watch!

    20942. jexster - 10/20/2007 10:52:00 PM

    Fred was a HUGE disappointment and I was depressed for a time. But life goes on, and so there came the Man from Hope!!!





    Hillary Central

    The First played the sax

    20943. jexster - 10/21/2007 12:39:33 PM

    Marketing Mrs. Bill



    Cougars, Archers, Snipers
    By MAUREEN DOWD

    20944. jexster - 10/21/2007 12:59:16 PM

    The pollster is so used to dicing data into bite-sized pieces that the big picture may have eluded him: History shows that leaders’ personalities and policies are inextricably, and sometimes tragically, entwined. L.B.J.’s DNA led to Vietnam as Nixon’s led to Watergate as Reagan’s led to Iran-contra as Bill’s led to Monica as Hillary’s led to her health care fiasco as W.’s led to the Iraq imbroglio.

    Bill Clinton elevated his neuroses into a management style, running a chaotic White House that took its tempo from his adolescent indulgences and from his volatile marriage. The West Wing weather was determined by the Clintons’ strange emotional and political co-dependence.

    In her acid flashback of a new book, “For Love of Politics,” Sally Bedell Smith describes how First Lady Hillary routinely unmanned Bill and his aides, and engaged in sharp spurts of temper that sparked his temper.

    “Hillary’s anger was bound up in the intricacies of her marital bargain, which engendered rivalry and resentment along with mutual dependence,” Ms. Smith writes. Political power was her reward for his marital infidelity.

    When Bill explains why Hillary should be president, his subtext is clear: We owe it to her for all she put up with from me.

    At the breakfast, a reporter asked Mr. Penn if the campaign has polled to figure out how to proceed if Bill’s personal foibles once more take Hillaryland hostage.

    The pollster who believes that data trumps DNA brushed off the question, complimenting the former president as “a tremendous asset.”

    But if you think that Hillary doesn’t have connubial contingency plans in place, you’re disregarding his DNA — and hers.


    20945. jexster - 10/21/2007 8:33:54 PM

    Rudy eats Temple Thong

    Hours later, however, when the votes in a straw poll were counted, Giuliani had received less than 2 percent. The clear preference of those in attendance at the Values Voter Summit was former Arkansas Gov. (and ordained Baptist minister) Mike Huckabee, who finished second overall but a strong first among those casting their votes on-site. Giuliani, meanwhile, finished second in a diferent tally. He trailed only Hillary Clinton among contenders of both parties as the "least acceptable" candidate.



    Salon

    20946. jexster - 10/21/2007 9:04:46 PM

    20947. arkymalarky - 10/21/2007 10:04:44 PM

    Jex, if you don't put a sock in it wrt the Huckabee stuff I'm going to start plastering Hillary pictures all over this thread--yes, I would punish myself that much to counter a Huckabee media dump.

    20948. arkymalarky - 10/21/2007 10:15:11 PM

    20949. wonkers2 - 10/22/2007 9:40:27 AM

    Nice teeth!

    20950. jexster - 10/22/2007 10:28:04 AM

    I'd rather listen to Huckabee for four years than Shrillary that's for sure. Like fingernails on a blackboard

    20951. alistairconnor - 10/22/2007 10:54:13 AM

    OK Jex, what's the story on this Jindal dude?

    I sense you're about as keen to talk about him as I am about Sarko...

    20952. jexster - 10/22/2007 11:31:59 AM

    Bush Ties Record Low Of 25% In New Poll
    By Greg Sargent - October 22, 2007, 10:26AM

    Yet another poll finds that only a quarter of the electorate approves of the job Bush is doing as President. The new American Research Group survey finds Bush's approval rating at 25% -- matching his low point in ARG polling.

    Bush's numbers are also sagging (relatively, at least) among Republicans. His approval among GOPers has dropped to 67%, down from 80% last month

    20953. judithathome - 10/22/2007 12:25:07 PM

    His approval among GOPers has dropped to 67%, down from 80% last month

    It's staggering enough that 67% approve of him now but it's gobsmackingly astounding that 80% approved of him prior to this!

    I rub elbows with people who think like this! I need to start watching my back...no telling what these loons might do.

    20954. jexster - 10/22/2007 1:48:47 PM

    Jindal's a smart, probably honest, but exceedingly goofy looking obsequious, groveling low life Macacan

    Another humiliation for Louisiana and just when I was so proud of the National Noose Movement!



    20955. jexster - 10/22/2007 4:18:21 PM

    THIS Republican is even funnier!




    President Bush makes a statement about the $46 Billion Iraq War Supplemental, Monday, Oct. 22, 2007, in the Roosevelt Room in the White House in Washington.

    20956. jexster - 10/22/2007 4:26:01 PM

    What if Huckabee Wins Iowa?

    20957. arkymalarky - 10/22/2007 6:10:52 PM

    I saw that. It's very possible. I'm not making any assumptions about anything until after Iowa, at least.

    I posted this in NYT in response to Hillary being the main subject of last night's GOP debate--I just couldn't resist:

    Focusing on Hillary serves three purposes for Republicans. They promote the candidate they most want Democrats to nominate while building up the interest of their base, and they avoid scrutiny and having to defend the current administration. So far it's working like a charm with the media, and of course Hillary's loving it as well. If it doesn't work in the actual primaries, and a less polarizing and more popular Democrat is nominated, it will be interesting to see whether there's a contingency plan on the part of the Republicans. It's the same strategy Republican operatives have used successfully since Watergate, and Democrats fall for it pretty consistently.
    Frankly, I think many corporate Republicans would be okay with Hillary as president, so it's a win/win for them if she's nominated.

    20958. jexster - 10/22/2007 6:11:46 PM

    The idea that Hillary Clinton's qualified because of her WH internship is ridiculous
    Rudy

    20959. jexster - 10/22/2007 6:14:26 PM

    Sorry..that was Smit, Disciple of the Angel Moroni

    20960. jexster - 10/22/2007 10:35:36 PM




    20961. concerned - 10/23/2007 12:42:46 AM

    Re. 20952 -

    jexster admits that the polls he cites underrepresent Republicans.

    Example: If Republicans give GWB a 67% approval rating, and Democrats give him a 10% rating, with approximate parity, GWB's overall approval rating would be 38-39%.


    For GWB to show a 25% approval rating, twice as many Democrats as Republicans would have to be polled, a far cry from the approximately 50/50 split among the general population.

    20962. concerned - 10/23/2007 12:49:26 AM

    I rub elbows with people who think like this! I need to start watching my back...no telling what these loons might do.

    Considering that you probably make Madeline Albright look like Angelina Jolie, I wouldn't be too concerned unless you verbally assault strangers in public.

    20963. alistairConnor - 10/23/2007 3:52:36 AM

    Con, I think you've picked the wrong argument. You should be saying : the figures for Republicans are statistically unreliable, because the number of people prepared to admit to being Republicans is so small.

    Judith : Remember to disinfect your elbows.

    20964. jexster - 10/23/2007 11:28:23 AM

    That's two polls in as many weeks at the same number

    20965. jexster - 10/23/2007 11:31:03 AM

    Last June the New York Review of Books published an essay entitled Bush's Amazing Achievement, in which Jonathan Freedland discussed books by Chalmers Johnson, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Dennis Ross:



    Harpers

    20966. jexster - 10/23/2007 11:34:26 AM

    First of all there isn't a 50/50 split.

    Most polls now show something like 30% Republican and 70% Demo or independent


    Soorry TD
    Try again

    20967. jexster - 10/23/2007 11:45:47 AM

    Gallup 2007

    20968. jexster - 10/23/2007 12:51:30 PM

    Happy IslamoFascist Awareness Week TD!!



    20969. jexster - 10/23/2007 1:06:45 PM

    My alma mater Tulane gets ANNE COULTER!

    Islamofascism Awareness week at SF State presented by

    * Brian Sussman – 24th, 12pm, Jack Adams Hall


    Former KPIX 5 Weatherman

    20970. jexster - 10/23/2007 1:14:24 PM

    Worst Congress Ever Set for Improvement

    20971. Magoseph - 10/23/2007 2:58:29 PM

    Candidate Hillary: the GOP's dream
    A campaign against Sen. Clinton may give Republicans the best shot at running as the party of change.
    Jonah Goldberg

    October 23, 2007

    The most interesting thing to come out of the umpteenth Republican debate Sunday is confirmation that the GOP is dying to run against Hillary Clinton. Like Don Rickles flaying a heckler, each candidate whacked at Clinton as if she were a pants-suited piñata. When they were done with their one-liners, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee deadpanned: "Look, I like to be funny. There's nothing funny about Hillary Clinton being president."

    No, but there's something deeply advantageous about having her as an opponent. So far, the commentary about the Republican offensive against Hillary has focused mostly on how it reflects poorly on the GOP (those Clinton-hating wing nuts are at it again!). What's not been fully grasped is how Hillary gives the GOP its best chance at being the party of change.

    Newt Gingrich, for one, has been pointing this out for months, using the electoral triumph of Nicolas Sarkozy in France last spring as an example. A Cabinet minister for the unpopular Jacques Chirac, who'd served in office for a biblically long term of 12 years, Sarkozy ran against his own incumbent party's complaisance as well as his Socialist opponent, Segolene Royal, arguing that she merely represented a return to a failed past and "more of the same."

    America -- obviously -- isn't France, but Democrats may be misreading America nonetheless. It seems incandescently clear that voters want a change, and, up to now, change meant little more than Democratic victory and no more President Bush. But Democrats got a significant victory in 2006, when they took control of both houses of Congress. And now Congress is even less popular than Bush. In other words, the clamor for change in Washington is much bigger than Bush.

    Besides, Bush is leaving no matter what. And unlike every other election since the 1920s, there's no White House-approved candidate in the race. Any Republican will start with 40% to 45% of the vote in his pocket once he gets the nomination. The question that remains is whether the critical 5% to 10% of swing voters will think Hillary Clinton represents the sort of change they want.

    What most independents and swing voters want is an end to the acrimony and bitterness in Washington -- and a candidate they like. Whether that's right or not is irrelevant. That's what they want.

    Which Democratic candidate would be most likely to give those voters what they want? Not Hillary, it's safe to say.

    Right now, during the primaries, she can get away with boasting about her tenure in the Clinton administration. Party activists are drunk with Clinton nostalgia. On the stump in Iowa, Bill Clinton responded to the claim that Hillary was "yesterday's news" by saying, yeah, but "yesterday's news was pretty good."

    In the general election, audiences will remember Whitewater, travelgate, illegal fundraising, bimbo eruptions and impeachment. If they don't, you can be sure Republicans will remind them. Fair or not, the Republicans' intense dislike of Hillary will underscore the idea that a vote for her is a vote for more of the same rancor.

    Hence the irony of the Clinton candidacy. Liberal activists keep saying that they want a candidate who is pure, who speaks from the heart and refuses to "triangulate" on core principles the way Bill Clinton did. But Hillary Clinton is Clintonian in more than just name. On national security in particular, she has been alternating between reflexive anti-Bushism to bouts of outright hawkishness on Iran. Desperate to win, Democrats have been willing to overlook that -- so far. But such shifting costs her credibility and passion.

    It's all deeply reminiscent of how John Kerry wound up as the nominee in 2004. Once Howard Dean, the conviction candidate, experienced the political equivalent of spontaneous human combustion, Democrats immediately cast about not for another principled politician but one they deemed electable. Bizarrely, they settled on the left-wing senator from Massachusetts who synthesized Ted Kennedy's politics with Michael Dukakis' charisma while bragging about his service in a war he built a career denouncing.

    If Democrats could get out of their bubble, it might dawn on them that virtually all of their other candidates are better positioned to run as champions of change. Hillary Clinton has shrewdly tried to trim the differences between her and the competition by claiming that any of them would be better than George W. Bush. From a liberal perspective, that's obviously true. But that perspective won't necessarily dominate come next fall, particularly if conditions in Iraq continue to improve.

    Is it really so obvious that, say, Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney represent "change" less than the ultimate Clinton retread, complete with Bill as "first gentleman?" That's how Democrats are betting right now, and they may be bitterly disappointed -- again -- when it comes time to collect.

    jgoldberg@latimescolumnists.com

    20972. jexster - 10/23/2007 3:46:13 PM

    We hate her

    20973. jexster - 10/23/2007 3:46:39 PM

    Not you Mago....check your msg at the Cafe

    20974. Magoseph - 10/23/2007 5:21:52 PM

    I did--Thanks, now check mine!

    20975. jexster - 10/23/2007 5:30:40 PM

    Kentucky Going Blue


    Poll: Fletcher Down By 20, With Two Weeks To Go
    By Eric Kleefeld - October 23, 2007, 12:46PM

    With only two weeks to go until Election Day in Kentucky, a new SurveyUSA poll shows Governor Ernie Fletcher (R) on his way to a landslide defeat. Democratic candidate Steve Beshear is ahead of Fletcher by a 58%-38% margin.

    This is statistically unchanged from a SurveyUSA poll two weeks ago, which had Beshear ahead 56%-40%. The incumbent has been consistently unable to exceed 40% in the polls since the May primary.

    20976. jexster - 10/23/2007 7:16:02 PM

    Worst President in History

    The Army Bush Destroyed Wants Answers


    FORT SILL, Okla. - Army captains who represent the military's future pelted the new chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff with blunt questions Tuesday about the strain of long Iraq deployments.


    They also asked about recruiting pressures that could leave them supervising more soldiers with discipline problems.

    At times technical and other times very personal, the officers reflected the worries of a military struggling to fight two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan without exhausting troops, alienating their families or driving soldiers away.


    Shit out of luck soldiers

    20977. wonkers2 - 10/23/2007 8:49:59 PM

    The Corporate Welfare Congress

    20978. wonkers2 - 10/24/2007 11:46:57 AM

    John Edwards

    20979. wonkers2 - 10/24/2007 11:49:48 AM

    A Message from Carl Levin

    20980. jexster - 10/24/2007 12:17:45 PM

    What a weenie


    BushWars Could Cost 2.4 Trillion - CBO

    20981. jexster - 10/24/2007 12:18:46 PM

    But the new picture's an improvement Wonk.

    Geaux!

    20982. jexster - 10/24/2007 3:03:52 PM

    Huckabee - Strongest GOP Candidate

    KOS Interview

    20983. wonkers2 - 10/24/2007 8:49:08 PM

    Maureen bites Dick's balls

    20984. jexster - 10/24/2007 9:09:13 PM

    He may not be able to persuade Congress so easily anymore - except for Hillary - to issue warlike resolutions.

    20985. wonkers2 - 10/24/2007 9:16:47 PM

    He was crazy even before the heart attacks and strokes. Now only a few neocons take him seriously.

    20986. wonkers2 - 10/25/2007 10:12:52 AM

    Is Rudy a neocon?

    20987. jexster - 10/25/2007 11:38:53 AM

    Time to Hug it Out America!!!


    DES MOINES, Iowa - Mike Huckabee, who strums a bass guitar and cracks jokes at campaign stops, is quietly establishing himself with Iowa voters as a serious candidate for the Republican presidential nomination.



    "I think he's the sleeper candidate this year," said Steve Roberts, a Des Moines lawyer who sits on the Republican National Committee. "He makes a very positive impression in his public appearances and in the debates."

    20988. jexster - 10/25/2007 2:03:33 PM

    Cheney's Treason, Iran and Napoleon

    Juan Cole on Amy Goodman's Democracy Now - PT 1

    20989. jexster - 10/25/2007 2:26:35 PM

    Turkduquen



    One would, wouldn't one?

    20990. Max Macks - 10/25/2007 3:22:36 PM

    Did anyone see that short clip on the Lehr News
    hour when Cunni Rice was testifiy about something
    and a code pink woman with "blood" on her hands

    got in from of Rice and said you have blood on your
    hands from Iraq.?>?

    I hope someone recorded that and that it can
    be see on U tube or whatever those videos are
    called.


    What a collection , Cheney , Rumsfeld, and Rice!
    barf

    20991. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/25/2007 5:30:15 PM

    I didn't realize how many people were bodily thrown out during that protest . . .

    20992. jexster - 10/25/2007 5:50:19 PM

    Dems: Cunnilingus Rice is a Nappy Headed Ho

    20993. wonkers2 - 10/26/2007 12:31:10 PM

    "World War IV"?

    20994. jexster - 10/26/2007 1:13:01 PM

    Ms. Bill's Bums Rush



    Walter Shapiro,Salon


    20995. jexster - 10/26/2007 1:13:55 PM

    This just in

    Obama Slashes Clinton Lead in Half in Less Than a Week! (Fox News Poll)

    20996. jexster - 10/26/2007 3:13:16 PM

    20993

    I hear Cheney fell asleep during a cabinet meeting on the SoCali wildfires


    Guess he has bigger fish to fry..like covering the tracks of his treason



    The Road to War, Part II
    With new unilateral U.S. sanctions announced Thursday, America and Iran may now be headed for unavoidable hostilities.
    By Michael Hirsh
    Newsweek Web Exclusive

    20997. arkymalarky - 10/26/2007 6:28:51 PM

    With new unilateral U.S. sanctions announced Thursday, America and Iran may now be headed for unavoidable hostilities.

    As soon as that resolution was passed Bush/Cheney ramped up wrt Iran. If Hillary doesn't lose the primaries in that eventuality the Dems are hopelessly stupid.

    I read a good article in Real Clear Politics about national polls as well. I need some confirmation of your post other than Fox, Jex. Sounds too good to be true.

    20998. jexster - 10/26/2007 6:39:00 PM

    It's all BS Ark...which was my point!


    TPM Election Central has all the polls..that's where I got it

    20999. arkymalarky - 10/26/2007 7:28:09 PM

    When is

    21000. arkymalarky - 10/26/2007 7:28:24 PM

    Super Tuesday?

    21001. arkymalarky - 10/26/2007 7:32:18 PM

    Nevermind.

    21002. jexster - 10/26/2007 7:38:06 PM

    Apples to apples, Fox to Fox Obama cut Hillary's lead 17% in 14 days.

    I was using Fox to LAT just to be facetious

    You wouldn't know it from listening to MSNBC and I never listen to Fox ..so here's KOS


    The damned thing is though, the more Bush fucks up (esp if he tries the Mutha of All FuckUps in Iran), the better it may be for Hillary.

    Perversely, I hear more and more from fence sitters "Well Hillary couldn't be as bad as what we have now"

    21003. jexster - 10/26/2007 9:01:17 PM

    The Way of the Whigs?

    Death Wish: GOPigpile in Grips of Inquisition

    Ron Brownstein

    21004. arkymalarky - 10/26/2007 10:38:52 PM

    fence sitters "Well Hillary couldn't be as bad as what we have now"

    I'm hearing it too, from my dad and daughter no less, and what a dumb shit reason to vote somebody as the nominee.

    21005. arkymalarky - 10/26/2007 10:41:11 PM

    People are too chicken to vote on principle, when it comes down to it, so GOP propaganda scares them into voting for their weakest nominees every time because they don't have the courage to go for someone more true to their own values. Of course this year the GOP is stuck in the same situation, but Dems aren't (fill in your own adjective) enough to play the same game with them.

    21006. jexster - 10/27/2007 12:46:29 PM

    To me it isn't a question of principle. It is an objective question of a failed political system.

    The NeoCon who came in from the cold...


    America's Self-defeating Hegemony
    Francis Fukyama


    21007. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/27/2007 1:30:02 PM

    The system is failing because it's been corrupted by greedy and ruthless gangsters--most Americans ignore their civic responsibilities with pleasurable distractions that are sold to them by greedy and ruthless corporations. It's a visious cycle that promotes hegemony and destroys civilization.

    Our kids (and their children) will have to pay the bill. My nieces and nephews, thier spouses and children are all oblivious to the real workings of our corrupted government--and if you say anything to them they roll their eyes.


    Here's a fixed bad link . . . to jexster's article.

    21008. jexster - 10/27/2007 2:23:13 PM

    Thanks Wiz! Hillary's at it again on IraN. Tim Russert and Andrea Mitchell laid her low today on MSNBC. She's done exactly what she did in 2002

    21009. jexster - 10/27/2007 2:24:50 PM

    We'd see this every night during Vietnam..This is what an airstrike looks like

    Petraeus Throws Out the Book, Launches Airstrikes

    That guy's a total piece of shit. Just like the man who hired him

    21010. jexster - 10/27/2007 2:58:37 PM

    Haven't been waiting for this for two months have I?

    COLUMBUS, Ohio, Oct. 27 — Senator Barack Obama said he would start confronting Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton more directly and forcefully, saying Friday that she had not been candid in describing her views on critical policy issues, as he tries to address mounting alarm among supporters that his lack of assertiveness so far has allowed her to dominate the presidential race.

    Time to Call the Bitch a Bitch

    21011. jexster - 10/27/2007 3:12:22 PM

    Worst Congress Ever

    Rasmussen

    (Concerned?
    probably oversampled Democrats)





    21012. wonkers2 - 10/27/2007 4:10:54 PM

    Interesting! Hope the Dems don't find away to throw away their opportunity.

    21013. jexster - 10/27/2007 9:08:02 PM

    The Des Moines Register says his "campaign is on a roll" and he is "rocking out" Arky

    21014. arkymalarky - 10/27/2007 10:05:49 PM

    Huckabee or Obama?

    21015. jexster - 10/27/2007 10:19:50 PM

    Great article in the NYT magazine. Seems War opposition is growing where you least expect it.


    The Evangelical Crack Up


    There is a God after all. Even in Wichita mega churches

    21016. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/28/2007 1:00:16 AM

    21017. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/28/2007 1:26:10 PM

    21018. jexster - 10/28/2007 1:50:38 PM

    21014





    And his website announces that he's finally raising money...850,000 since October 1

    Course Obama ran a special appeal against that Lieberman Lickin Bitch featured in Wizzer's wet dreams a week or so ago


    Raised 2.1 million in about 10 days on line

    21019. jexster - 10/28/2007 1:58:39 PM

    Speaking of Ms Bill, seems that Cat Joe Mentum's got her triangluated tongue.

    Can't see to say the words "Palestinian State"

    21020. jexster - 10/28/2007 2:06:52 PM

    Manly Man Seen as Potential 2008 Veep Nominee

    I think he's more valuable in the Senate than presiding over it and am not entirely comfortable with all the bad karma of talk about hatched chickens a year early..knock wood...still he might be able to check Villary's vile connections to the Jizzrael Lobby and Lieberman Amen corner in check

    Probably do a better job of that in the Senate tho

    What do you think Wiz? Hillary seems to have quite a taste for Mentum's Kosher meat

    21021. jexster - 10/28/2007 2:07:34 PM

    Manly Man 2008

    I think he's more valuable in the Senate than presiding over it and am not entirely comfortable with all the bad karma of talk about hatched chickens a year early..knock wood...still he might be able to check Villary's vile connections to the Jizzrael Lobby and Lieberman Amen corner in check

    Probably do a better job of that in the Senate tho

    What do you think Wiz? Hillary seems to have quite a taste for Mentum's Kosher meat

    21022. jexster - 10/28/2007 2:13:43 PM

    How much money did she raise for Mentum on that bus tour of the Nutmeg State back in '06?

    21023. jexster - 10/28/2007 4:24:37 PM

    Deja Vu all over agin

    Hillary votes for the Lieberman-Kyl Iran War amendment claiming she just wants Bush to engage in diplomacy


    No Evidence of Iran Making Nukes - El Baradei


    Learn from Her Experience


    21024. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/28/2007 5:33:32 PM

    I'm getting fed up with Hillary and The Wizard may start to apply his trade on her duplicitous fat ass if she continues.

    21025. jexster - 10/28/2007 7:02:40 PM

    Come with me to the Dark Side!!


    Huckabee told me that he welcomed a broadening of the evangelical political agenda. “You can’t just say ‘respect life’ exclusively in the gestation period,” he said, repeating a campaign theme.

    But the leaders of the Christian conservative movement have not rallied to him. Many say he cannot win because he has not raised enough money. Perkins and others have criticized Huckabee for taking too soft an approach to the Middle East. Others worry that his record on taxes will anger allies on the right. And some Christian conservatives take his “gestation period” line as a slight to their movement.

    “They finally have the soldier they have been waiting for, and they shouldn’t send me out into the battlefield without supplies,” Huckabee told me in exasperation. He argued that the movement’s leaders would “become irrelevant” if they started putting political viability or low taxes ahead of their principles about abortion and marriage.

    “In biblical terms, it is like the salt losing its flavor; it’s sand,” Huckabee said. “Some of them have spent too long in Washington. . . . I think they are going to have a hard time going out into the pews and saying tax policy is what Jesus is about, that he said, ‘Come unto me all you who are overtaxed and I will give you rest.’ ”




    21026. wonkers2 - 10/29/2007 12:42:54 PM

    Straws in the Wind

    21027. jexster - 10/29/2007 1:04:53 PM

    New University of Iowa poll shows Clinton/Obama in dead heat with Edwards sinking

    Huck's charging hard Arky. I like his chances. Send money

    21028. jexster - 10/29/2007 1:14:26 PM

    Worst Congress Ever

    Another Republican retires.

    Tom Tancredo

    21029. wonkers2 - 10/29/2007 1:22:03 PM

    Another asshole retires.

    21030. jexster - 10/29/2007 3:24:54 PM

    I look for Bush to bomb Iran sometime next year between end of primaries and start of conventions.

    Horde gasoline

    Eurabia for Eurabians!

    Fearing Fear Itself

    By PAUL KRUGMAN

    In America’s darkest hour, Franklin Delano Roosevelt urged the nation not to succumb to “nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror.” But that was then.

    Today, many of the men who hope to be the next president — including all of the candidates with a significant chance of receiving the Republican nomination — have made unreasoning, unjustified terror the centerpiece of their campaigns.

    Consider, for a moment, the implications of the fact that Rudy Giuliani is taking foreign policy advice from Norman Podhoretz, who wants us to start bombing Iran “as soon as it is logistically possible.”

    Mr. Podhoretz, the editor of Commentary and a founding neoconservative, tells us that Iran is the “main center of the Islamofascist ideology against which we have been fighting since 9/11.” The Islamofascists, he tells us, are well on their way toward creating a world “shaped by their will and tailored to their wishes.” Indeed, “Already, some observers are warning that by the end of the 21st century the whole of Europe will be transformed into a place to which they give the name Eurabia.”

    21031. jexster - 10/29/2007 3:57:55 PM

    Spot on



    John Edwards on Monday cast Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton and her ties to lobbyists as part of a corrupt Washington system that voters should reject in the presidential election.

    Edwards railed against the "bankruptcy of our political leadership," an approach that his campaign said would be a major thrust of his efforts in the two months before the first nomination voting. With Clinton appearing to gain strength with every poll, Edwards seemed less to target Republican President Bush's leadership than to cast fellow Democrat Clinton as the insider whom voters should reject

    "This corruption did not begin yesterday — and it did not even begin with George Bush, although Lord knows it's been present while George Bush has been president," the 2004 vice presidential nominee said in a speech at St. Anselm College. "It has been building for decades until it now threatens literally the life of our democracy."

    "Senator Clinton's road to the middle class takes a major detour right through the deep canyon of corporate lobbyists and the hidden bidding of K Street in Washington," he said. "And history tells us that when that bus stops there, it is the middle class that loses."

    21032. wonkers2 - 10/29/2007 4:59:33 PM

    U.S. government expenditures as a percentage of GDP 1950-2075. Congressional Budget Office projections

    21033. judithathome - 10/29/2007 7:08:21 PM

    Horde gasoline

    And how the hell are we supposed to do THAT?

    Your advice is that of one who doesn't own a car and lives in a city with decent public transportation. Obviously.

    21034. jexster - 10/29/2007 7:15:00 PM

    How about a septic tank in the back yard! 3-4 in the lower forty

    21035. wonkers2 - 10/29/2007 7:31:12 PM

    The raving lunatic neocon Norman Podhoretz was on the Lehrer News hour tonight debating Fareed Zakaria over his recommendation that we strike Iran. He predicted that Bush will bomb Iran before he leaves office. Zakaria expressed doubt that Bush will strike Iran. He pointed to our successful policy of containment and deterance. Podhoretz compared Amadinejad to Hitler and Zakaria, et al, to Neville Chamberlain. Zakaria could have scored more points by mentioning that the GDP of Iran is about the same as that of Connecticut.

    21036. jexster - 10/29/2007 7:42:31 PM

    Forget Podhoretz. Forget Jewliani. Forget Bush



    2 dead bang indicators:

    1. Putin waving the red flag at Bush
    2. Hillary's triangulating again

    21037. jexster - 10/29/2007 9:00:07 PM

    Banned by the Media
    Hillary Uncensored!


    21038. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/30/2007 11:43:48 AM

    "What I Stand For . . . in under 30 seconds . . ."

    21039. jexster - 10/30/2007 4:59:44 PM

    Time to call a corrupt CWord a Corrupt CWord


    Edwars Focuses on Clinton's Lack of Integrity

    21040. jexster - 10/30/2007 8:29:08 PM

    The Surge goes on


    GOP Official: Huck Has a 30% Chance of Winning Iowa


    I like the cut of his jib

    21041. jexster - 10/30/2007 9:28:46 PM

    Democracy Corps Memo: National Pessism Worse Than 1992


    Wait til the recession hits next year

    21042. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/31/2007 1:25:54 AM

    Happy Halloween!

    21043. Magoseph - 10/31/2007 5:58:25 AM

    October 31, 2007--By David Ehrenstein: Obama's gospel mistake

    He can't have it both ways on gay issues in the black community.

    21044. jexster - 10/31/2007 12:49:50 PM

    I didn't watch but did catch a bit of the debate in the corner store last night.

    A line from Biden


    Rudy Guiliani is the most unqualified person to run for President since George Bush. I mean listen to the man. A Guiliani sentence consists of a noun a verb and "911"

    21045. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 10/31/2007 12:51:26 PM

    Kucinich's call for Bush's impeachment was another high point.

    21046. wonkers2 - 10/31/2007 1:02:25 PM

    Kucinich is da man!

    Great Biden quote. I missed the debate.

    21047. Magoseph - 10/31/2007 1:08:02 PM

    Talking about strong disapproval of Bush's tenure, how about this one?

    Rosa Brooks:
    Straitjacket Bush
    The president's warmongering r